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Art in science | Paul Sereno | TEDxUChicago

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    You got the preview.
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    We think about things that are incomplete.
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    We think about the improbable,
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    maybe even the singular event,
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    and try to defend it
    as having great importance,
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    potentially overriding importance.
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    We think about transitions.
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    We need to bridge the gap, as it were,
    to understand what happened in the past.
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    We think about limits, extremes.
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    I try to define what I do,
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    and one phrase that I
    come up with continually for -
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    especially when talking to younger kids -
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    is "adventure with a purpose."
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    That's what I felt when I walked
    in that museum I told you I did.
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    I felt a sense of excitement.
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    The feeling of discovery was palpable.
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    It was wrapped up
    with so many different things:
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    travel, science, art.
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    One thing that is a constant
    in good science is hard work.
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    First, there's adventure -
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    this is someone crossing the Sahara
    for the first time in their life -
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    and there's a sense
    of playfulness about science.
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    This is your emcee
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    at a more arduous moment in her career.
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    There's hard work.
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    I don't care if you're
    in a white lab coat in the Sahara -
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    a lot of hard work goes into science.
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    We didn't know how hot it was
    because our thermometers only went to 125.
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    (Laughter)
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    And it may not be temperature.
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    It may be a jealous colleague.
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    It may be inadequate equipment.
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    There's all sorts of hurdles.
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    One thing it's likely
    going to involve is teamwork.
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    And I couldn't have moved
    the millions of pounds of earth
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    around here and there
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    without a lot of the eyes
    and a lot of teamwork.
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    Where does it begin, my field?
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    Go to a place like this - Sahara.
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    Look at that.
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    There's a camp, if you've got
    really good eyes, over there.
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    How do you find something?
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    How do you make a discovery
    in paleontology?
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    You've got to see it,
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    but you can never see the whole thing.
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    If you see the whole thing,
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    then time has seen that whole thing
    a lot before, long before you have
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    and it's fragmentary and eroded.
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    The best way to make a discovery
    is to see the corner of something.
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    But then you have to visualize
    what you can't see,
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    and these encyclopedic images
    are passing through our head
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    time and time again.
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    Here we are, the early dinosaur beds.
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    And we're wondering
    what it takes to make a discovery.
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    This one was made -
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    just a tooth or two
    showing at the surface
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    before we realized
    what we'd actually found.
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    I'm going to give you two examples of -
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    I'm going to take it this clock is off.
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    I'm going to go with my own wristwatch.
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    Okay.
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    I'm going to give you two examples -
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    one I just announced
    and one we're working on -
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    to give you an idea
    of what we're involved with.
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    We found this thing,
    this early dinosaur, Eodromaeus.
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    Badlands - the middle
    of absolutely nowhere.
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    Months, years it took to visualize
    what this animal was about,
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    casting, molding
    to properly communicate it,
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    to put it together,
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    to see it in three dimensions,
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    and ultimately,
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    to reconstruct it for the public.
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    This not purely whim,
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    but rather built on top of a cast
    of the actual material,
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    following all the traces we could
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    to understand whether it was scaled,
    feathered, bristled, whatever.
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    Here's another example -
    what I'm going to come out with soon.
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    Here's the moment of discovery.
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    We couldn't see anywhere near
    the whole skeleton,
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    but we felt we had something important.
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    And if we could turn these lights down -
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    you can see out there
    better than I can see up here.
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    It's a little raptor of some kind.
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    Hind limbs like an emu,
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    forelimbs - and you see it,
    they're twisting around -
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    like an armadillo or something that digs.
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    It's an "emorillo."
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    We don't have anything
    like this living today.
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    How could you convince a scientist
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    that you've got something
    that runs at lightning speed
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    and digs like an armadillo?
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    You really have to visualize it
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    to see what these things do and look like.
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    Now, my art began in high school.
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    I drew this, and psychologists
    would call it "monocular depth cues."
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    I was good at shadow,
    atmospheric effect, contrast -
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    all these things I didn't even know -
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    I was good at it.
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    This is my grandfather.
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    It turned me around.
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    I got into college not far from here.
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    This transition was difficult for me.
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    Understanding that art
    could be something more,
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    that there was a meaning
    beyond what was in front of your nose,
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    that imitating three dimensions
    and two dimensions
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    was not the only thing,
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    that you could look at a life model
    and see through to something inside,
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    to express something beyond
    just what was in front of your nose
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    but at the essence of something.
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    I eventually gave up brushes
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    and decided that since art
    is 30,000 years old as a record,
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    the first paintings,
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    these people didn't have canvas:
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    "I'm just going to try to get
    to the essence of human form."
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    These people weren't doing
    monocular depth cues
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    in what they were symbolizing.
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    It was something more important,
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    something essential about their lives
    and the animals around them.
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    Eventually, tried to create
    rock surfaces - carve into it, literally.
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    Gave up on brushes.
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    Now, this comes from a journal.
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    Niels Bohr was known to have said -
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    I see the time's going backwards -
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    Niels Bohr's known to have said
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    that cubism really influenced,
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    or it certainly helped him to understand
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    the particle, the wave - whatever
    was going on, deep atomic structure.
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    This was written in a journal
    very sympathetic:
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    "The Future of Science is Art?"
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    It's hard to believe
    that a work of abstract art
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    might have actually affected
    the history of science.
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    Cubism seems to have
    nothing in common with modern physics.
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    When we think about
    the scientific process,
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    a specific vocabulary comes to mind:
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    objectivity, experiments, facts.
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    In the passive tense
    of the scientific paper,
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    we imagine a perfect reflection
    of the real world.
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    And I put this in italics:
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    paintings can be profound,
    but they are always pretend.
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    This, to me, fundamentally misunderstands
    not only what science is about
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    but also what art is about.
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    Let me take you on a journey
    of some of the discoveries I've made.
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    This site - I raised hundreds of thousands
    of dollars and risked my career
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    to bring a team back to this spot
    in the middle of the desert,
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    and all I could see at the surface
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    was that.
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    But I had an intuition,
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    and I had some facts
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    that led me to believe
    much more was under the ground.
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    Students couldn't believe it:
    "You came all the way back for this?"
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    When we dug, we came out
    with tons and tons of bones.
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    That is not a single object;
    that's a composite.
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    In reality, it doesn't exist.
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    It belongs to three or four skeletons.
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    This - no one had ever seen
    a Spinosaur before.
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    We had to put together his skull
    with the proportions of a crocodile.
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    It was so long it didn't look
    like it belonged,
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    but we had to follow the bones,
    follow our clues, and put it together.
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    This thing, this gigantic skull,
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    found - this is my wife -
    on the cliffside of Morocco
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    at the edge of the Sahara desert,
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    came in hundreds of pieces.
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    We didn't even know
    they belonged to the skull.
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    We certainly didn't imagine we had found -
    even after taking it off the continent -
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    a gigantic, T-Rex-sized beast
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    until we put it all together.
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    This I had to visualize
    with CAT scanning preparation
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    until I could ultimately understand
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    how the jaws of this animal
    actually worked -
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    it came with a whole new way of chewing
    for this dinosaurean nutcracker.
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    It wasn't chewing when I saw it.
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    How about this animal? A Mesozoic cow.
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    This reconstruction
    really captures the notion
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    that this animal was, in fact,
    with its muzzle, close to the ground.
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    It was so fragile.
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    We found the skull pulled apart.
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    We couldn't actually cast the pieces;
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    we had to CAT scan it, reflect it,
    put it back together
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    until we could see the mug
    of this thing for the first time.
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    And was it a shocker.
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    The endocast, the brain,
    that doesn't exist either.
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    That's from the hollow inside the skull.
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    The ear region - reconstructed painfully
    from slice after slice of CT scan.
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    How about this?
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    A giant crocodile -
    its jaws on the ground.
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    Can you imagine the whole thing?
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    We didn't have the body; we had parts.
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    We went to modern crocodilians
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    to see how they scaled
    when they got larger.
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    We had to capture the very largest ones
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    to realize what this animal
    looked like 40 feet long.
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    This is supercroc.
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    What about its relatives?
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    This is more recent work, just out.
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    They had limbs that were upright.
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    I felt, likely, they were gallopers,
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    gallopers like this recent crocodile -
    coming into the picture on the left -
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    Northern Australia, Darwin.
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    You have to watch your fingers
    when you let these guys go.
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    But when they go, they go.
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    This is slow-speed film
    of a galloping crocodile.
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    There was only one species
    that gallops today - this is it -
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    under certain conditions.
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    And what shocked me to no end -
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    it was wonderful seeing this thing gallop.
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    It was the closest
    I could get to my fossil.
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    But what it did when it hit the water
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    shocked me:
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    it turned into a fish, side to side.
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    And I realized what I was looking at.
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    What I was looking at
    was an evolutionary transition
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    that I was going to pin down
    when I got back to my office.
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    200 million years ago,
    they adopted - readopted -
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    a fish-like style of swimming
    when they hit the water.
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    And this one species -
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    this is the only one where you can see
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    both modes of progression,
    in operation, alive today.
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    Because other animals
    that walk upright, ourselves included,
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    do not walk and run like primitive fish,
    like swimming like them.
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    But they have a very unbelievable system,
    the mammalian system.
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    Here we see it in a cheetah.
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    It's like a 4-wheel drive,
    independent system.
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    The shoulder's all loosened up.
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    Unlike the crocodile, it is completely
    the body, the momentum -
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    in prey and predator alike -
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    at high speeds,
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    at turning corners is absolutely level.
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    They can do that with a loose shoulder.
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    When did this appear? I wondered,
    and I'm working on right now.
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    Well, I enter the story in the middle
    of the Gobi Desert, Mongolia,
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    where I saw a white speck
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    but imagined that, maybe,
    with that suture, it was a small mammal.
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    That's where this change occurred
    100 million years ago,
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    but nobody had found the shoulder girdle.
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    But our specimen - see how small it is?
    That's my thumb there -
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    preserved it.
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    And I reconstructed it upright,
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    but the gurus of the day
    said, "No, no, no."
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    Now, it walked like a frog.
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    And so I thought how could I convey ...
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    Words, long papers -
    nothing would convince them,
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    and then I thought of a way.
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    I CAT scanned it.
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    I segmented it.
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    I printed it the size of a big cat.
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    And I put it together physically -
    at the bottom of your screen -
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    visualizing our hypothesis,
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    profoundly showing
    the difference between them.
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    That is science.
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    How about this? Human site.
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    This I saw dimly out in the field,
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    what might be a triple burial.
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    Now, we're only 6, 7,
    8, 9,10 thousand years ago.
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    This turned out to be
    6 thousand years old.
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    I couldn't lift it because I didn't know
    what was under it,
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    and yet I had to collect it somehow,
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    complete,
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    so that I could discover that in the lab.
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    And sure enough,
    when we got back to the lab,
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    put this back together
    like nobody has before -
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    this is the most posed burial
    in prehistory.
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    You're awestruck when you see
    something like that in the desert.
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    And when we prepared it from both sides
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    and reconstructed it vertically,
    so you can walk around it,
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    we found points on the other side.
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    They were never used, it turned out.
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    They were salted as offerings in a grave
    with a woman and her two children,
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    arms and legs intertwined.
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    It was a symbolic burial.
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    We found evidence of pollen clusters.
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    This is visualization - my life's work.
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    The evolution of dinosaurs,
    some might say, is built on a tree.
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    The tree summarizes
    thousands of characters
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    in worlds that are changing
    and migrating millions of years ago.
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    It's sort of like this.
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    It's based on finding
    the common characters
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    that link images together.
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    You have sort of built in your brain
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    the ability to look
    at human faces like that.
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    It takes us years to figure that out
    with dinosaur bones,
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    to figure two species
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    over two other species
    that might be linked,
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    but it's all the same - we're trying
    to figure out with words what happened.
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    This is a way to visualize
    in three dimensions
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    the evolution of the dinosaurs -
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    that tree -
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    as the continents broke apart.
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    It's a three-dimensional problem,
    not a two-dimensional problem,
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    to visualize that.
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    And ultimately, for a computer
    program to work that out.
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    How about this?
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    This isn't a program.
    This isn't a screen grab.
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    This is a program I would like
    a programmer to build.
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    I published it because I knew
    it would stimulate that
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    if they could understand
    what it was that we wanted.
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    How about this?
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    Perhaps the most fundamental thing
    I will give the systematics
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    is a grammatical understanding
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    of the words we use to put together
    those evolutionary trees.
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    And it, visualized as a tree -
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    like a Chomskyan grammar tree -
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    I think is the easiest way
    for people to understand
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    what it is I'm talking about:
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    the lines of text that make art.
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    Well, visualization -
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    we are primates.
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    We have 50 million years
    of visualization behind us.
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    Our eyes aren't separate organs
    like a kidney or a liver.
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    They're actually part of our brain
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    that's pinched down, made clear,
    to see the world.
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    It projects back and then it projects
    here and there and everywhere.
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    A huge part of our brain
    is devoted to visualizing things.
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    Here's another quote
    from that same journal
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    in an article on the meaning
    of observation:
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    "STEM" - science, technology,
    engineering, mathematics -
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    "needs something to give it some steam,
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    an "A" for art between the engineering."
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    It goes on:
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    "What if America approached innovation
    with more than just technology?
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    What if,
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    just like STEM is made up of science,
    technology, engineering and math -
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    what if we had something like IDEA,
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    made up of intuition, design,
    emotion and art?"
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    Somehow, these are not disconnected.
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    Because if I go back
    to the slide at the top -
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    I just spent a lot of time
    talking about visualization,
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    that science, a good part of it,
    is about visualization.
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    But I thought that's what art was too.
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    So, could it go the other way?
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    Could we look at art, sort of,
    from a more scientific perspective?
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    I'm just going to give you
    one small example, a humorous one,
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    to say yes, it can go in reverse.
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    Giacometti - one of my favorite artists.
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    I was curious -
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    he did a lot of weird things
    in his day as a surrealist,
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    but the one we have at the art museum
    looks like this, his mature style,
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    the long-gait statuette forms.
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    I was sort of curious
    what he was doing to the human body,
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    being a professor of human anatomy
    at the university here.
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    And it turns out,
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    if we got down measuring,
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    very simple global transformation -
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    two times lengthening.
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    It wasn't that he took the legs
    and stretched them out. No.
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    He stretched everything out:
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    two times this way
    or minus two times this way.
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    It was a global transformation.
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    I don't know what he was taking,
    but he got this image in his head,
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    and it's global.
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    There's other things - texture and so on -
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    but I thought, "Did anybody notice this?"
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    No. Not a word about it.
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    But that really is what
    he was doing with human form.
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    So I thought I would take a dinosaur
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    with the human proportions
    like this Eoraptor -
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    got a tail; we don't have
    as much of a tail -
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    and do the same thing.
  • 15:42 - 15:44
    After all, it's a biped, like humans.
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    So I lengthened all the limbs twice,
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    put it together
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    and brought people to see it -
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    "Giacomettisaurus" I call it -
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    an interesting way
    to look at my animal artistically.
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    I had a lot of fun doing that.
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    But seriously,
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    what I realize after 20 years
    of discovery and realization of discovery:
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    it's a long process
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    which is really heavy on visualization.
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    I walked out of one studio 20 years ago,
    and I walked into another one.
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    And I really feel quite at home
    in this studio that we call science,
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    but it really is, in large measure,
    involving many of the same things.
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    I think about this
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    when we think and work with kids
    who don't know what they want to be -
  • 16:30 - 16:32
    including some undergraduates here,
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    but especially those kids
    in neighborhoods around Chicago -
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    because the idea of science
    is something very dry,
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    sometimes technical,
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    forbidding in many ways.
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    What if you described
    science as adventure?
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    That's the way I feel about science.
  • 16:47 - 16:52
    What if you described science
    as visualization, at its core?
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    Which is what I think it is -
    a lot of science is.
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    Then, maybe, we'd have a lot more
    scientists in the next generation
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    because we certainly need them.
  • 17:02 - 17:03
    Thank you very much.
  • 17:03 - 17:05
    (Applause)
Title:
Art in science | Paul Sereno | TEDxUChicago
Description:

Paul Sereno is a paleontologist at the University of Chicago and the president and co-founder of Project Exploration. Paul Sereno teaches the world about its evolutionary past through what he calls "adventure with a purpose." His travels have brought him to discover important links in the evolution of life on earth, such as his discovery of the world's largest crocodile.

This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at http://ted.com/tedx.

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