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Let's connect the world - but not just virtually | Jorge Cardenas Prieto | TEDxKIT

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    Over the past years,
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    and especially during my experience
    at Engineers Without Borders
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    in Colombia and in Karlsruhe,
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    I keep realizing that the true connection
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    comes from exchanging perspectives
    and experiences with others.
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    Perspectives are the ways we see things.
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    For example, expectations,
    goals, opinions.
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    Experiences, on the other hand,
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    are activities or events
    that are related to doing something.
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    And in my opinion,
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    exactly the combination of these two
    is what creates a real connection.
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    And I want to highlight this
    with two specific examples.
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    First, during my first year
    here at the studies
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    at the Karlsruhe Institute of Technology,
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    I founded the student organization
    Engineers Without Borders,
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    that develops technical projects
    around the world
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    to improve living conditions.
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    Because of my background as a Colombian,
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    I directly recognized the impact
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    that this organization
    could have in my country,
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    so I decided with a friend
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    to start a new project
    in the north of the country
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    to improve hygienic
    conditions of a school.
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    But it was all a process.
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    We first needed to find a team,
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    and not just somebody to work with.
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    We needed engineers
    from different backgrounds,
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    different fields,
    with different experiences
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    to work in a project
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    with an intrinsic motivation.
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    And this project was
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    just simply full of unknowns,
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    and I was just 19.
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    I don't know what
    I was thinking back then.
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    But anyways, we continued,
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    and with this team,
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    we first needed to define the scope
    and the goal of the project.
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    But in order to do this,
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    we first needed
    to get to know our partners.
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    This means get to know
    what their priorities are,
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    what their needs are,
    what they expect from this project.
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    So, we needed to first
    exchange perspectives.
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    This means we needed
    to really communicate with them
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    and to start a communication with people
    on the other side of the world.
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    But this was not enough.
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    It's not just about getting to know them.
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    It's also about getting to know ourselves,
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    getting to know the team.
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    So, what are our capabilities
    and what is what we want to do?
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    What are the challenges
    that we want to face?
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    And so, this exchange of perspectives
    was also within all members of the group,
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    with all the different intentions
    that they have and goals, and so on.
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    And in order to continue with our project,
    we also needed to gather information.
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    So, I already talked about
    how we have to communicate
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    with the other side of the world.
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    But we're developing a technical project,
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    so we need to start asking
    technical questions
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    to people without a technical background.
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    And that means we just need
    a lot of communication
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    and the exchange of perspectives
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    to really understand
    what they're thinking about
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    or what their expectations are, and so on.
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    But we realized this is not enough,
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    we have to go further,
    we have to increase this exchange.
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    And so, we couldn't just do that
    by exchanging perspectives.
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    We had to go there
    and start exchanging experiences
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    and start this face-to-face conversation.
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    So, we went there,
    even twice, to visit them,
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    to get to know how they are living,
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    to really have this real
    connection with them.
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    And already 10 months
    after we started all this process,
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    we had this unforgettable
    experience of going there
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    and exchanging
    this unforgettable experience
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    of building what we had planned.
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    So, we installed water tanks,
    water pipes, water pumps.
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    We improved hygienic conditions,
    repaired a lot of things in the school.
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    But the most important part of it
    was working together.
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    We worked with the locals down there,
    and we learned a lot from them.
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    It was not just that we have
    the solution for everything.
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    We have to exchange with them
    about how to solve problems
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    that arise during the construction phase
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    or just because of all the unknowns
    that we have in the project.
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    So, it was a cultural exchange tool
    to learn from another culture,
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    to learn how they think, and so on.
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    So, this was the first
    experience that I had,
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    and so we finished this project.
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    And the second experience
    I want to share with you
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    is about our second project in Colombia.
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    After finishing this one,
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    we started analyzing the possibility
    of providing drinking water
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    to an indigenous community
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    in a desert-like area
    in the north of the country.
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    And again, we had to go through
    a similar process as I explained before.
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    We had to gather a team,
    start this exchange of perspectives,
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    what their goals are,
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    what they want to achieve
    with our project,
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    and so on and so forth.
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    We also had to go there, even twice,
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    to also, as I said,
    to exchange this experience
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    of living with them,
    of seeing how they live,
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    how they deal with this situation
    of not having drinking water.
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    But this time, the challenges
    were much larger.
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    We're dealing with
    an indigenous community,
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    or I mean, we're working with them.
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    This means we needed
    a translator for everything.
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    It was just not so easy
    as if we just could communicate
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    in English or in Spanish.
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    We needed to communicate
    through a translator.
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    And we needed to communicate
    through our partners,
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    which was a foundation that was located
    in a different area as this one.
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    So, the exchange
    of perspectives was harder,
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    and not only about goals and opinions,
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    we also needed to exchange
    a lot about the technical issues.
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    And this technical challenge was huge.
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    We wanted to provide water,
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    and we wanted to desalinate water
    in a remote area with no power grid
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    and with little access to water.
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    So, we also needed to expand
    this exchange with our partners
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    but also here in Germany,
    with experts in the area,
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    with people that had already worked
    with similar projects,
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    and so on and so forth.
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    And all these challenges
    meant more risks, more costs,
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    more to be planned,
    and so on and so forth.
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    But we continued exchanging
    perspectives and experiences,
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    until already about a year later,
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    we finally could start
    the first step of our project,
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    which was to finish the first building
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    where later our water treatment plant
    was going to be located.
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    Again, we had this
    unforgettable experience
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    of working with the people there,
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    of sharing how they are living,
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    how they deal with the situation,
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    how they actually can live in that area.
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    And about a month later,
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    we had the final product: this building.
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    But unfortunately, exactly at that point,
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    we had to cancel our project.
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    And this was not easy for any of us.
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    But the Water Ministry
    of the country contacted us
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    and told us that they had a huge project
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    to deliver drinking water
    to the whole region,
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    and their pilot project
    was going to be located
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    at the exact same spot
    that we were working on.
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    So, nobody knew about this,
    like not even our partners,
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    not even the communities down there.
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    There was no exchange at all.
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    There was good intentions but no exchange.
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    And so, after many discussions
    with our partners, with the locals,
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    we decided, "OK. We cannot
    compete with the government.
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    We should not compete
    with the government."
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    So, we decided to cancel the project,
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    and we gave this building
    to a nearby school
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    to be used as a classroom.
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    So, we failed on delivering our goal.
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    But we did not fail
    because we built connections,
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    and through those connections,
    we were able to have positive effects.
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    For example, we connected
    different foundations
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    that were working in the same area
    towards the same goal,
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    and they started working together.
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    We connected them
    with governmental entities
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    that are also interested
    in solving this problem.
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    But we as a team also learned a lot.
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    We learned how to deal with
    these types of situations.
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    We learned a lot from the local population
    about this cultural exchange.
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    We learned a lot
    about this technical issue
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    or this technical challenge
    that we're trying to solve.
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    But mostly, what we learned,
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    I would like to summarize it
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    by a quote of a local worker
    that worked in this building,
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    which is David.
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    And he said, "We learned a lot.
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    But one thing I really learned
    was that if we work with love,
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    then the work is done much better
    than when done just with money.
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    I learned that."
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    So, we have seen with these two examples
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    the impact that true connections
    can actually have.
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    First, we can develop
    successful projects with this.
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    On the other hand,
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    we saw also how external factors
    play an important role,
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    and we might not end
    successfully our project,
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    but we have positive effects
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    out of this true connection
    that we were able to build.
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    But what I also think or I believe
    is that we are also connected
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    even if we are not actively
    searching for a connection.
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    And I just want you to take a look
    outside of this experience
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    of Engineers Without Borders
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    and start seeing,
    like, another perspective.
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    And I want to highlight this
    with a new example
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    because last year, I was
    at a lecture by Deborah Wilson,
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    which is a nurse
    that was leading a medical team
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    in Liberia in 2013
    in the middle of the Ebola crisis.
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    And so, she was exchanging
    this unforgettable experience
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    of risking her life
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    in order to save lives of people
    she didn't even know
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    and sharing the experience of living
    with the people together in the area,
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    and so on and so forth.
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    And the reason she gave me
    of why Ebola arose
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    was very simple:
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    poor infrastructure for human waste.
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    So, communities down there
    were having Ebola
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    because they did not have toilets.
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    For example, a village
    was working with an organization
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    on improving their hygienic conditions,
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    and they had no Ebola cases
    during that time.
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    So, and the world was shocked
    by this outbreak of Ebola,
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    and I keep asking myself,
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    "Can we just simply reduce the risk
    of such an outbreak
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    by simply exchanging
    perspectives and experiences
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    about hygienic conditions?"
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    And so, we have seen
    how this real connection is built,
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    exchanging perspectives and experiences
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    and how we can learn a lot from people
    from other side of the world,
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    from other cultures, and so on.
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    But if I want you to take
    something out of this talk,
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    is that we have so much to learn
    by building these real connections,
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    and we don't have to go to the other side
    of the world to do this,
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    to Colombia or to Liberia.
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    We can just simply start here, at home.
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    We can just exchange more
    with our colleagues at work
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    because how many times
    have we started a project
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    that somebody else was already working on?
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    Or just exchange more with our neighbors
    about local situations or issues
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    that we actually
    are all interested in solving.
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    And I believe that in that way
    we can build real connections
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    and solve not only local problems
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    but probably world problems
    like climate change, and so on.
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    And the only thing we need is to exchange
    perspectives and experiences,
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    and to do so,
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    the only thing we need
    is the will to do so.
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    Thank you.
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    (Applause)
Title:
Let's connect the world - but not just virtually | Jorge Cardenas Prieto | TEDxKIT
Description:

If we want to solve the problems of this world, we have to connect with each other, exchange experiences and discover new perspectives.

In his TEDx talk, Jorge Cardenas Prieto uses his projects at Engineers Without Borders to show how important it is to be connected in reality, not just virtually. We can achieve much more if people interact and learn from each other.

Jorge Cardenas Prieto studied business engineering at the Karlsruhe Institute of Technology (KIT) and was a board member of Engineers Without Borders, a university group at KIT. Their aim is to support people in economically, socially
or politically disadvantaged regions through engineering projects. They focus on sustainable solutions and intercultural exchange at eye level. Jorge initiated the Aguavision project in Colombia and managed it from 2013 to 2016. His project team developed and implemented water infrastructure for a school in northern Colombia. Subsequently, he started the Colombian project Aguajira and managed it for one year, planning a water treatment plant.

This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at https://www.ted.com/tedx

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