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Snake Phobia Behavioral Therapy

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    Meet 22-year-old Mariam Doom
    from Venezuela,
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    clinical psychologist Lars-Göran Öst
    from Sweden,
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    and Alph--
    he's an American corn snake.
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    This multinational threesome
    is working together.
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    Mariam helps out when Alph gets
    tangled in Öst's belt loops
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    and Öst helps Mariam
    put Alph around her neck.
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    The picture looks simple enough
    unless you go back in time,
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    just three hours ago,
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    as Mariam was preparing to
    meet Alph for the first time.
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    >> I cannot...
    (crying)
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    Mariam has a specific phobia,
    a fear of snakes.
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    Other specific phobias include:
    claustrophobia and
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    a fear of flying and thunder.
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    Mariam's had almÖst no contact with
    snakes and doesn't know why she's afraid.
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    >> Since I remember myself,
    I remember being afraid of snakes.
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    >> She has trouble with movies...
    >> I have to close my eyes - always.
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    >> And the zoo...
    >> It's impossible.
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    >> And it interferes with her life.
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    >> I have friends with snakes..
    it's horrible.
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    I like to scuba dive and there's snake
    gills and other things.
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    >> Mariam is a research technician
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    here at BÖston University's
    Center for Anxiety and Related Disorders.
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    Psychologist David Marlow is director
    of the center and a pioneer
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    in exposure therapy. His research
    demonstrates the outstanding success
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    that's been achieved in treating phobias
    in a very brief time period--
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    just one week. Some psychologists at the
    center use virtual reality to gradually
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    introduce a patient to a feared situation,
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    But Öst bypasses all that. He treats
    specific phobias in just 3 hours.
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    >> What's he's done though over
    the years and he leads, in some ways,
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    leads the world in this, is, strip the
    program down to its essence.
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    >> Barlow invited Öst from Sweden
    to demonstrate brief exposure therapy.
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    >> In the hopes that we will be
    better able to apply it
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    here in the United States.
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    >> And Mariam has agreed to be
    treated in front of her colleagues.
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    Exposure therapy requires that patients
    gain experience with feared objects.
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    >> Unless one is willing to
    experience one's own negative emotions,
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    and expose them as not dangerous,
    overwhelming or threatening, then they
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    probably will not be able to overcome
    their anxiety and phobia.
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    >> But some say that this
    intense exposure is cruel.
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    >> I disagree completely
    because everything we do in the
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    treatment is decided by the
    patient and it is within this
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    time limit a very gradual approach.
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    >> There are surprisingly few people
    given the suffering that they have endured
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    up until this point,
    who aren't willing to take that plunge
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    and see if they can overcome it.
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    >> People have this idea that
    you suddenly pick up the animal
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    and throw it in the lab or at the person,
    that will never happen.
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    >> It's teamwork. Öst interviews
    Mariam for 45 minutes and then
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    describes and prepares her for treatment
    in an additional 15 minutes.
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    >> I will challenge you to try things,
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    but I will never force you to do anything
    that you're not...
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    >> It's critical to determine
    Mariam's worst fear,
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    what's called her "catastrophic belief."
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    Her catastrophic belief is that if a
    snake is loose and she can't escape,
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    she'll have heart failure.
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    >> How certain are you
    that you might die
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    as a consequence of that interaction?
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    >> Maybe 70%.
    >> 70%? Ok.
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    >> No one has ever died
    or become ill,
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    either with Öst's or Barlow's treatment.
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    But Mariam believes her anxiety
    won't diminish and she'll escape.
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    >> Like, run away from the room.
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    >> The strong belief in the
    catastrophe,
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    that is what's driving
    the avoidance behavior,
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    and the avoidance behavior is the directly
    maintaining factor for the phobia.
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    >> But if Miriam doesn't escape,
    Öst predicts her anxiety...
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    >> ...will then gradually diminish as we
    go along in the treatment.
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    >> And importantly, there can be
    cognitive changes...
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    >> ...to help you get new information
    about that catastrophic belief.
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    >> Öst does not prepare patients
    with relaxation or deep breathing.
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    >> I don't think it's necessary at all.
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    >> We discovered through systematic
    research evaluating this component
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    that patients receiving these skills were
    trained in these skills, who then use them
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    to cope with their anxiety or fear,
    actually did not do as well.
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    >> Deep breathing masks anxiety
    and the patient doesn't learn
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    anxiety isn't dangerous.
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    Here it will be used only if Mariam
    hyperventilates.
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    Just prior to exposure she rates her
    anxiety on a scale of 0 to 100.
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    >> 70 or 80.
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    >> Now, it's time to go
    get the snake.
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    Mariam's anxiety soars.
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    >> I can stand with my back
    towards you if you want me to.
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    >> Ok.
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    >> And then...
    >> Can I close my eyes?
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    >> Then I can gradually turn..
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    >> No!
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    >> I'm standing here now with my
    back towards you..
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    >> Öst does that for two
    minutes. What is Mariam thinking?
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    >> It was horrible, I felt that I
    was going to leave the room
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    and that it was,
    you know, stronger than me.
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    >>And what was Öst thinking
    about her reaction?
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    >> Maybe not the
    strongest i've seen,
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    but up there among the 25% strongest.
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    >> But he knows that the initial
    anxiety is not the best predictor of
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    success, it's motivation to succeed.
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    She lets him turn around after three
    minutes.
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    >> Ok, I’m going to close my
    eyes, ok? But don't come...
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    (Sobbing)
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    >> Doing good. Let's try
    to watch it. It's in my hands.
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    (Sobbing)
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    >> She looks for the first time.
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    >> That's the only way you are
    going to get new knowledge.
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    It's completely peaceful.
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    >> She stands and smiles as her
    anxiety level comes down.
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    >> 50.
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    >> She's learning...
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    >> .. that if you stay exposed
    to the situation long enough you'll see
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    that the anxiety level goes down.
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    >> She lets him enter after
    eight minutes. She realizes that her
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    catastrophic belief can't occur unless
    Öst releases the snake.
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    >> I'm not doing that.
    >> Ok.
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    >> After 15 minutes, Öst sits down.
    Some anxiety returns.
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    >> Try to breathe slowly and
    calmly and with your stomach.
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    >> She calms down.
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    >> So, what about the name
    for it?
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    (laughing)
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    >> And where are you going?
    >> I'm gonna move here.
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    >> Ok. What do you think it
    feels like?
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    >> It's a nice snake.
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    >> Her anxiety is down.
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    >> Great! You're sitting about
    what is this... three meters away?
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    >> She decides to approach.
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    >> Ok, I'm going to approach you.
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    >> Yeah? Good.
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    >> But hold it.
    (laugh)
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    >> What psychological principles
    might account for the improvement so far?
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    >> It might be that you have
    habituation going on-- which leads
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    to extinction of the anxiety reaction.
    You could say that the confidence
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    is increasing. Self efficacy, Bandura's
    ideas come in to play here from a
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    cognitive point of view. I think what is
    happening here is that the patient is,
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    with the help of the therapist, accepting
    to take in new information.
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    >> There's also positive
    reinforcement and modeling.
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    What's Öst's assessment so far?
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    >> Deep in my mind
    I know it's going to work.
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    That means that I don't have
    to be impatient, I can be calm.
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    >> Certaintly his research
    supports his confidence.
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    Across several types of specific phobias,
    even with children, Öst's research shows
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    over 80% improvement compared
    with control groups.
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    And the results are maintained at
    a one-year follow-up.
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    >> The research is actually
    very, very strong.
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    I would say surprisingly strong
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    when you consider the dramatic
    nature of the intense approach.
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    >> It's close to one hour now
    and she decides to name the snake.
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    >> Maybe Alph.
    >> Alph? OK. That's a nice name.
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    What would it feel like touching it?
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    >> I'm thinking about it..
    >> Yeah?
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    >> After an hour,
    she touches Alph.
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    >> Good! Did you touch him?
    >> A little bit...
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    I can't believe I'm touching a snake.
    >> You are touching the snake.
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    >> Progress is very uneven
    throughout the afternoon, but it
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    provides an opportunity to challenge the
    catastrophic belief.
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    (surprised sound)
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    >> Woah... and you died?
    >> No...
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    (laughter)
    >> And you survived... Great!
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    >> Alph is placed on Mariam's
    lap, but again, progress is uneven.
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    Alph is on her lap now alone.
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    >> One more time.
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    >> One more time?
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    >> And finally it's time to test
    Mariam's catastrophic belief.
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    But Alph's more interested in the
    radiator and warmth.
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    >> The snake didn't do a lot of
    things that she predicted it would do.
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    >> What about Mariam's
    catastrophic belief?
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    >> Is it down to 0?
    >> Yes.
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    >> Good!
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    >> Now it's time to pose...
    >> A picture. (laughs)
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    >> ...and then help untangle Alph.
    As for her anxiety?
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    >> At the end when I was helping
    here, it was zero. That impressed me,
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    that last part really,
    that I was able to do that.
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    >> There was time for some
    celebration and congratulations.
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    >> Did you really think you would
    get this far?
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    >> No, I didn't.
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    >> And reflect on the
    implications for treatment.
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    >> We have no reason to believe
    that the three hour program would be
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    any less effective than the one week
    program. So, then it becomes an issue of
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    what would the patient choose? There are
    many patients who really don't have the
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    time to take a week out of their lives.
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    >> The recommendation is that
    Mariam engage in maintenance,
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    watch nature films,
    go to the park and the zoo.
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    >> It is alright if I see a snake
    on the street at least I'm gonna be
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    able to see it and walk away and
    not see it and run.
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    >> And two months after treatment,
    we spoke to Mariam by phone.
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    >> I have dream with snakes but
    I didn't have any anxiety.
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    I also watch movies with no problems,
    and pictures.
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    So I think that I'm doing great.
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    I really feel confident that if I see a
    snake I won't be scared.
Title:
Snake Phobia Behavioral Therapy
Video Language:
English
Duration:
12:00

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