1 00:00:04,489 --> 00:00:07,869 Meet 22-year-old Mariam Doom from Venezuela, 2 00:00:07,869 --> 00:00:11,309 clinical psychologist Lars-Göran Öst from Sweden, 3 00:00:11,309 --> 00:00:13,849 and Alph-- he's an American corn snake. 4 00:00:14,437 --> 00:00:17,107 This multinational threesome is working together. 5 00:00:17,107 --> 00:00:21,517 Mariam helps out when Alph gets tangled in Öst's belt loops 6 00:00:21,517 --> 00:00:25,287 and Öst helps Mariam put Alph around her neck. 7 00:00:25,287 --> 00:00:29,243 The picture looks simple enough unless you go back in time, 8 00:00:29,243 --> 00:00:31,011 just three hours ago, 9 00:00:31,011 --> 00:00:34,277 as Mariam was preparing to meet Alph for the first time. 10 00:00:34,917 --> 00:00:39,956 >> I cannot... (crying) 11 00:00:43,001 --> 00:00:46,561 Mariam has a specific phobia, a fear of snakes. 12 00:00:46,667 --> 00:00:49,614 Other specific phobias include: claustrophobia and 13 00:00:49,614 --> 00:00:51,742 a fear of flying and thunder. 14 00:00:51,962 --> 00:00:56,170 Mariam's had almÖst no contact with snakes and doesn't know why she's afraid. 15 00:00:56,850 --> 00:01:00,351 >> Since I remember myself, I remember being afraid of snakes. 16 00:01:01,081 --> 00:01:04,456 >> She has trouble with movies... >> I have to close my eyes - always. 17 00:01:04,977 --> 00:01:06,797 >> And the zoo... >> It's impossible. 18 00:01:06,797 --> 00:01:08,902 >> And it interferes with her life. 19 00:01:08,912 --> 00:01:11,664 >> I have friends with snakes.. it's horrible. 20 00:01:11,664 --> 00:01:17,074 I like to scuba dive and there's snake gills and other things. 21 00:01:19,241 --> 00:01:21,042 >> Mariam is a research technician 22 00:01:21,042 --> 00:01:25,462 here at BÖston University's Center for Anxiety and Related Disorders. 23 00:01:25,462 --> 00:01:29,560 Psychologist David Marlow is director of the center and a pioneer 24 00:01:29,560 --> 00:01:33,820 in exposure therapy. His research demonstrates the outstanding success 25 00:01:33,820 --> 00:01:37,820 that's been achieved in treating phobias in a very brief time period-- 26 00:01:37,820 --> 00:01:43,620 just one week. Some psychologists at the center use virtual reality to gradually 27 00:01:43,620 --> 00:01:45,836 introduce a patient to a feared situation, 28 00:01:45,836 --> 00:01:51,606 But Öst bypasses all that. He treats specific phobias in just 3 hours. 29 00:01:51,615 --> 00:01:56,825 >> What's he's done though over the years and he leads, in some ways, 30 00:01:56,825 --> 00:02:05,695 leads the world in this, is, strip the program down to its essence. 31 00:02:05,721 --> 00:02:10,741 >> Barlow invited Öst from Sweden to demonstrate brief exposure therapy. 32 00:02:10,741 --> 00:02:13,963 >> In the hopes that we will be better able to apply it 33 00:02:13,963 --> 00:02:15,663 here in the United States. 34 00:02:15,675 --> 00:02:19,675 >> And Mariam has agreed to be treated in front of her colleagues. 35 00:02:20,304 --> 00:02:25,044 Exposure therapy requires that patients gain experience with feared objects. 36 00:02:25,681 --> 00:02:30,201 >> Unless one is willing to experience one's own negative emotions, 37 00:02:30,531 --> 00:02:37,981 and expose them as not dangerous, overwhelming or threatening, then they 38 00:02:37,981 --> 00:02:42,331 probably will not be able to overcome their anxiety and phobia. 39 00:02:42,331 --> 00:02:45,501 >> But some say that this intense exposure is cruel. 40 00:02:45,521 --> 00:02:50,501 >> I disagree completely because everything we do in the 41 00:02:50,501 --> 00:02:58,001 treatment is decided by the patient and it is within this 42 00:02:58,001 --> 00:03:01,261 time limit a very gradual approach. 43 00:03:01,601 --> 00:03:06,941 >> There are surprisingly few people given the suffering that they have endured 44 00:03:06,941 --> 00:03:11,724 up until this point, who aren't willing to take that plunge 45 00:03:11,724 --> 00:03:13,324 and see if they can overcome it. 46 00:03:13,324 --> 00:03:17,174 >> People have this idea that you suddenly pick up the animal 47 00:03:17,174 --> 00:03:20,794 and throw it in the lab or at the person, that will never happen. 48 00:03:20,794 --> 00:03:25,874 >> It's teamwork. Öst interviews Mariam for 45 minutes and then 49 00:03:25,874 --> 00:03:29,477 describes and prepares her for treatment in an additional 15 minutes. 50 00:03:30,090 --> 00:03:33,706 >> I will challenge you to try things, 51 00:03:33,716 --> 00:03:37,072 but I will never force you to do anything that you're not... 52 00:03:37,072 --> 00:03:39,987 >> It's critical to determine Mariam's worst fear, 53 00:03:39,987 --> 00:03:42,632 what's called her "catastrophic belief." 54 00:03:42,632 --> 00:03:47,833 Her catastrophic belief is that if a snake is loose and she can't escape, 55 00:03:47,833 --> 00:03:49,400 she'll have heart failure. 56 00:03:49,400 --> 00:03:52,017 >> How certain are you that you might die 57 00:03:52,017 --> 00:03:55,074 as a consequence of that interaction? 58 00:03:55,074 --> 00:03:58,638 >> Maybe 70%. >> 70%? Ok. 59 00:03:58,998 --> 00:04:01,340 >> No one has ever died or become ill, 60 00:04:01,340 --> 00:04:03,918 either with Öst's or Barlow's treatment. 61 00:04:03,918 --> 00:04:07,940 But Mariam believes her anxiety won't diminish and she'll escape. 62 00:04:08,460 --> 00:04:10,249 >> Like, run away from the room. 63 00:04:10,259 --> 00:04:13,472 >> The strong belief in the catastrophe, 64 00:04:13,472 --> 00:04:16,697 that is what's driving the avoidance behavior, 65 00:04:16,697 --> 00:04:22,661 and the avoidance behavior is the directly maintaining factor for the phobia. 66 00:04:22,661 --> 00:04:26,278 >> But if Miriam doesn't escape, Öst predicts her anxiety... 67 00:04:26,278 --> 00:04:31,317 >> ...will then gradually diminish as we go along in the treatment. 68 00:04:31,317 --> 00:04:34,398 >> And importantly, there can be cognitive changes... 69 00:04:34,398 --> 00:04:40,977 >> ...to help you get new information about that catastrophic belief. 70 00:04:41,257 --> 00:04:45,059 >> Öst does not prepare patients with relaxation or deep breathing. 71 00:04:45,059 --> 00:04:47,798 >> I don't think it's necessary at all. 72 00:04:47,798 --> 00:04:52,462 >> We discovered through systematic research evaluating this component 73 00:04:52,462 --> 00:04:57,882 that patients receiving these skills were trained in these skills, who then use them 74 00:04:57,882 --> 00:05:02,330 to cope with their anxiety or fear, actually did not do as well. 75 00:05:02,330 --> 00:05:05,817 >> Deep breathing masks anxiety and the patient doesn't learn 76 00:05:05,817 --> 00:05:07,436 anxiety isn't dangerous. 77 00:05:07,436 --> 00:05:10,887 Here it will be used only if Mariam hyperventilates. 78 00:05:11,967 --> 00:05:16,399 Just prior to exposure she rates her anxiety on a scale of 0 to 100. 79 00:05:17,029 --> 00:05:18,239 >> 70 or 80. 80 00:05:18,479 --> 00:05:20,805 >> Now, it's time to go get the snake. 81 00:05:21,096 --> 00:05:22,844 Mariam's anxiety soars. 82 00:05:23,694 --> 00:05:27,470 >> I can stand with my back towards you if you want me to. 83 00:05:27,470 --> 00:05:28,222 >> Ok. 84 00:05:28,222 --> 00:05:30,751 >> And then... >> Can I close my eyes? 85 00:05:30,751 --> 00:05:33,163 >> Then I can gradually turn.. 86 00:05:33,683 --> 00:05:34,391 >> No! 87 00:05:34,531 --> 00:05:38,097 >> I'm standing here now with my back towards you.. 88 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:42,986 >> Öst does that for two minutes. What is Mariam thinking? 89 00:05:44,199 --> 00:05:47,809 >> It was horrible, I felt that I was going to leave the room 90 00:05:49,149 --> 00:05:53,037 and that it was, you know, stronger than me. 91 00:05:53,037 --> 00:05:55,710 >>And what was Öst thinking about her reaction? 92 00:05:55,710 --> 00:05:58,025 >> Maybe not the strongest i've seen, 93 00:05:58,039 --> 00:06:02,040 but up there among the 25% strongest. 94 00:06:02,790 --> 00:06:06,568 >> But he knows that the initial anxiety is not the best predictor of 95 00:06:06,568 --> 00:06:08,890 success, it's motivation to succeed. 96 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:12,099 She lets him turn around after three minutes. 97 00:06:12,204 --> 00:06:15,375 >> Ok, I’m going to close my eyes, ok? But don't come... 98 00:06:16,951 --> 00:06:17,974 (Sobbing) 99 00:06:24,904 --> 00:06:32,913 >> Doing good. Let's try to watch it. It's in my hands. 100 00:06:33,173 --> 00:06:34,386 (Sobbing) 101 00:06:34,556 --> 00:06:36,841 >> She looks for the first time. 102 00:06:36,841 --> 00:06:42,757 >> That's the only way you are going to get new knowledge. 103 00:06:43,997 --> 00:06:45,574 It's completely peaceful. 104 00:06:45,824 --> 00:06:49,202 >> She stands and smiles as her anxiety level comes down. 105 00:06:49,402 --> 00:06:50,154 >> 50. 106 00:06:50,154 --> 00:06:51,590 >> She's learning... 107 00:06:51,590 --> 00:06:56,367 >> .. that if you stay exposed to the situation long enough you'll see 108 00:06:56,367 --> 00:06:58,515 that the anxiety level goes down. 109 00:06:59,195 --> 00:07:03,208 >> She lets him enter after eight minutes. She realizes that her 110 00:07:03,208 --> 00:07:07,181 catastrophic belief can't occur unless Öst releases the snake. 111 00:07:07,421 --> 00:07:09,979 >> I'm not doing that. >> Ok. 112 00:07:09,979 --> 00:07:13,667 >> After 15 minutes, Öst sits down. Some anxiety returns. 113 00:07:14,417 --> 00:07:20,981 >> Try to breathe slowly and calmly and with your stomach. 114 00:07:21,711 --> 00:07:23,157 >> She calms down. 115 00:07:23,157 --> 00:07:25,906 >> So, what about the name for it? 116 00:07:26,156 --> 00:07:27,277 (laughing) 117 00:07:29,847 --> 00:07:32,800 >> And where are you going? >> I'm gonna move here. 118 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:35,933 >> Ok. What do you think it feels like? 119 00:07:36,723 --> 00:07:39,009 >> It's a nice snake. 120 00:07:39,349 --> 00:07:41,449 >> Her anxiety is down. 121 00:07:41,449 --> 00:07:47,721 >> Great! You're sitting about what is this... three meters away? 122 00:07:48,091 --> 00:07:49,838 >> She decides to approach. 123 00:07:51,108 --> 00:07:52,665 >> Ok, I'm going to approach you. 124 00:07:53,545 --> 00:07:56,138 >> Yeah? Good. 125 00:07:57,238 --> 00:07:59,151 >> But hold it. (laugh) 126 00:07:59,691 --> 00:08:02,885 >> What psychological principles might account for the improvement so far? 127 00:08:03,195 --> 00:08:09,977 >> It might be that you have habituation going on-- which leads 128 00:08:09,977 --> 00:08:15,733 to extinction of the anxiety reaction. You could say that the confidence 129 00:08:15,733 --> 00:08:22,538 is increasing. Self efficacy, Bandura's ideas come in to play here from a 130 00:08:22,538 --> 00:08:30,268 cognitive point of view. I think what is happening here is that the patient is, 131 00:08:30,268 --> 00:08:35,993 with the help of the therapist, accepting to take in new information. 132 00:08:36,513 --> 00:08:39,398 >> There's also positive reinforcement and modeling. 133 00:08:39,398 --> 00:08:42,717 What's Öst's assessment so far? 134 00:08:42,717 --> 00:08:45,617 >> Deep in my mind I know it's going to work. 135 00:08:45,617 --> 00:08:51,172 That means that I don't have to be impatient, I can be calm. 136 00:08:51,992 --> 00:08:54,814 >> Certaintly his research supports his confidence. 137 00:08:54,814 --> 00:08:59,715 Across several types of specific phobias, even with children, Öst's research shows 138 00:08:59,715 --> 00:09:03,507 over 80% improvement compared with control groups. 139 00:09:03,507 --> 00:09:06,032 And the results are maintained at a one-year follow-up. 140 00:09:07,242 --> 00:09:12,414 >> The research is actually very, very strong. 141 00:09:12,414 --> 00:09:14,594 I would say surprisingly strong 142 00:09:14,594 --> 00:09:18,311 when you consider the dramatic nature of the intense approach. 143 00:09:18,311 --> 00:09:22,149 >> It's close to one hour now and she decides to name the snake. 144 00:09:22,149 --> 00:09:28,472 >> Maybe Alph. >> Alph? OK. That's a nice name. 145 00:09:28,472 --> 00:09:30,967 What would it feel like touching it? 146 00:09:30,967 --> 00:09:33,433 >> I'm thinking about it.. >> Yeah? 147 00:09:33,433 --> 00:09:35,963 >> After an hour, she touches Alph. 148 00:09:35,963 --> 00:09:39,134 >> Good! Did you touch him? >> A little bit... 149 00:09:39,134 --> 00:09:43,859 I can't believe I'm touching a snake. >> You are touching the snake. 150 00:09:45,399 --> 00:09:48,892 >> Progress is very uneven throughout the afternoon, but it 151 00:09:48,892 --> 00:09:51,942 provides an opportunity to challenge the catastrophic belief. 152 00:09:52,452 --> 00:09:54,132 (surprised sound) 153 00:09:54,532 --> 00:09:58,182 >> Woah... and you died? >> No... 154 00:09:58,182 --> 00:10:01,678 (laughter) >> And you survived... Great! 155 00:10:02,448 --> 00:10:06,974 >> Alph is placed on Mariam's lap, but again, progress is uneven. 156 00:10:07,694 --> 00:10:09,843 Alph is on her lap now alone. 157 00:10:11,473 --> 00:10:12,666 >> One more time. 158 00:10:12,666 --> 00:10:14,450 >> One more time? 159 00:10:14,450 --> 00:10:17,988 >> And finally it's time to test Mariam's catastrophic belief. 160 00:10:18,268 --> 00:10:21,917 But Alph's more interested in the radiator and warmth. 161 00:10:21,917 --> 00:10:26,904 >> The snake didn't do a lot of things that she predicted it would do. 162 00:10:26,904 --> 00:10:29,959 >> What about Mariam's catastrophic belief? 163 00:10:29,959 --> 00:10:32,101 >> Is it down to 0? >> Yes. 164 00:10:32,101 --> 00:10:33,291 >> Good! 165 00:10:33,291 --> 00:10:38,138 >> Now it's time to pose... >> A picture. (laughs) 166 00:10:38,138 --> 00:10:42,200 >> ...and then help untangle Alph. As for her anxiety? 167 00:10:42,860 --> 00:10:48,531 >> At the end when I was helping here, it was zero. That impressed me, 168 00:10:48,531 --> 00:10:50,597 that last part really, that I was able to do that. 169 00:10:50,967 --> 00:10:53,365 >> There was time for some celebration and congratulations. 170 00:10:53,685 --> 00:10:56,236 >> Did you really think you would get this far? 171 00:10:56,236 --> 00:10:57,599 >> No, I didn't. 172 00:10:57,599 --> 00:10:59,445 >> And reflect on the implications for treatment. 173 00:10:59,965 --> 00:11:04,835 >> We have no reason to believe that the three hour program would be 174 00:11:04,835 --> 00:11:08,685 any less effective than the one week program. So, then it becomes an issue of 175 00:11:08,685 --> 00:11:15,500 what would the patient choose? There are many patients who really don't have the 176 00:11:15,500 --> 00:11:17,742 time to take a week out of their lives. 177 00:11:18,062 --> 00:11:21,565 >> The recommendation is that Mariam engage in maintenance, 178 00:11:21,565 --> 00:11:24,769 watch nature films, go to the park and the zoo. 179 00:11:24,769 --> 00:11:29,150 >> It is alright if I see a snake on the street at least I'm gonna be 180 00:11:29,150 --> 00:11:35,106 able to see it and walk away and not see it and run. 181 00:11:35,826 --> 00:11:40,080 >> And two months after treatment, we spoke to Mariam by phone. 182 00:11:40,080 --> 00:11:47,166 >> I have dream with snakes but I didn't have any anxiety. 183 00:11:47,166 --> 00:11:51,778 I also watch movies with no problems, and pictures. 184 00:11:51,778 --> 00:11:54,472 So I think that I'm doing great. 185 00:11:54,472 --> 00:11:58,841 I really feel confident that if I see a snake I won't be scared.