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Have you ever met a monster? | Amy Herdy | TEDxSanJuanIsland

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    Have you ever met a monster?
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    Someone so scary they alerted
    the reptilian part of your brain?
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    One morning, I was going to my job
    as a criminal justice reporter in Denver.
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    I stepped into a crowded elevator,
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    faced front,
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    and got the sense that someone
    behind me was watching me.
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    So I glanced over my shoulder
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    to see this man staring at me
    in a very calculating way
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    with cold shark eyes.
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    So I stared back,
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    and my look said "rude person,"
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    and he didn't drop his eyes.
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    So I ended that contest
    and turned back around,
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    alarm bells sounding in my head.
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    I instantly decided I didn't want him
    to know which floor was mine.
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    So at the next stop,
    just before the doors came together,
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    I darted out at the last minute.
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    I flew up the stairs
    and ran into the newsroom,
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    my heart pounding.
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    The fear of monsters is instinctive.
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    In Denver, in 2005,
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    reports of a serial rapist
    had residents so frightened,
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    some were carrying baseball bats.
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    Police released a name, Brent Brents,
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    and the media scrambled to find out
    whatever we could on this guy.
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    A reporter at the rival newspaper got
    Brents' sister in Arkansas on the phone,
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    and she said,
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    "He deserves whatever he gets,"
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    before hanging up.
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    One sentence, but we'd been scooped.
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    "Get thee on a plane
    to Arkansas," editors said.
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    "Find his family
    and get them to talk to you."
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    So I did.
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    His mother described Brents
    as willful, intelligent.
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    He'd grown up hunting and fishing;
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    ran track, wrestled, boxed.
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    He had a learning disorder
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    and became frustrated,
    then angry, in school.
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    He started smoking pot
    at age 10 and drinking,
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    and that's when he began
    beating his mother.
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    At 13, he flipped a switch
    on a railroad track
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    and was sent to juvenile detention,
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    where he was in and out
    until the age of 18
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    when he was convicted
    of raping two children.
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    He served 16 years in prison
    and was released without supervision.
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    His sister remarked that Brent
    had a lot of anger toward their father,
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    who had died the year before.
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    So I turned to the mom and said,
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    "I'm sorry to ask,
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    but this is a standard question
    when someone sexually abuses others:
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    was Brent ever abused as a child?"
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    There was a long pause,
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    and then, looking down, she said,
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    "Brent makes up all kinds of lies."
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    Police caught him
    a few days after Valentine's Day.
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    At the start of that weekend,
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    a detective had told him on the phone,
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    "Turn yourself in, you little punk."
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    Brents essentially replied,
    "Come find me."
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    That weekend, he raped five victims,
    including two children,
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    and nearly beat a young woman to death.
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    The DNA from those cases
    was processed within hours,
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    and the manhunt that followed
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    ended in a dramatic car chase
    into the mountains,
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    where police captured him at gunpoint.
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    This kind of story
    causes a media feeding frenzy.
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    Reporters flocked
    to the jail, but I didn't.
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    I didn't think it would do any good.
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    Instead, I sent him a letter
    on plain stationery, handwritten,
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    two sentences:
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    "Dear Brent,
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    I went to Arkansas, where I met
    with your mom and sister.
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    If you were to ask them,
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    they would say I treated them
    with dignity and respect,
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    and I would do the same for you."
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    I then gave him the phone
    number to the newsroom
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    and told him to call collect anytime.
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    Because I figured
    he'd be getting a lot of hate mail,
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    on the back of the envelope, I wrote,
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    "Please don't be afraid to open this."
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    At the end of that week,
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    police issued a statement
    about another confirmed victim of Brents.
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    And since they'll protect the identity
    of a victim of sexual assault,
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    they'll only release the cross streets
    that are close to where it happened.
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    "Get thee to those cross streets,
    you and a photographer," editors said.
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    "Find this anonymous victim,
    and get her to talk to you."
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    Right.
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    So off we went to those cross streets,
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    and we found a sea of rental units,
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    like giant Legos.
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    We knocked on doors
    for hours, with no luck.
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    It was close to getting dark
    when we saw a woman out walking her dog.
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    Dog walkers are always great
    for information,
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    and sure enough,
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    she said the handyman had told her
    about a woman who'd been attacked.
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    She gave us the handyman's door number,
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    and he gave us the victim's door number.
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    I knocked on the door,
    and a man answered,
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    and I could see this tiny,
    dark-haired woman hiding behind the door.
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    And I identified myself,
    and she came out and said,
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    "You scared me."
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    Her name is Margaret,
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    and she told me her story.
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    Her attack had happened
    nearly three weeks earlier,
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    and she still had the yellow outlines
    of bruises on her neck.
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    Brents had rushed her at her front door -
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    she was coming home from running errands.
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    She fought him,
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    and he beat and choked her
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    and then raped her.
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    Margaret pointed to her couch,
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    which had a big chunk
    cut out of the upholstery.
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    The police had taken it for evidence
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    because that was where
    the rape had happened.
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    And when you can't afford a new couch
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    and you can't afford
    to break your lease and move -
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    and Margaret couldn't -
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    then you're forced to live
    with reminders of your worst nightmare.
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    The police had told her
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    the DNA from her case
    would take about two months to process.
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    They gave her no hope of solving her case.
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    And then she saw a story
    about Brents being wanted
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    and recognized his mug shot
    as her attacker.
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    One of the last things she said to me
    that night really struck me.
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    She said, "I hate him.
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    Yet I still feel sorry for him.
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    An animal - poor creature."
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    A week later, Brents called me.
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    One of the first things he said to me was
    "I'm not going to give you anything."
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    I love it when people call me and say,
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    "I'm not going to talk to you."
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    Okay.
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    He then said,
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    "I have one question for you,
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    and anything further
    depends on your answer."
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    And he said, "People say
    they hate me, that I'm a monster.
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    Do you think so?"
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    And without thinking,
    I said, "No, I don't.
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    You've done monstrous things,
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    but I don't consider you a monster."
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    And that's how we started
    a correspondence.
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    In one letter, Brents wrote,
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    "Don't trip - I've actually stood
    two feet away from you in an elevator."
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    And rolling my eyes,
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    I pulled out a piece of paper
    to fire back a response of
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    "Don't BS me. We had a deal
    to always tell the truth."
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    And I realized that had been him
    behind me on the elevator that morning.
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    The man whose very presence
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    had caused me to run to the newsroom
    like a frightened rabbit.
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    It turned out that Brents
    had followed my work.
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    A few months before
    he was released from prison,
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    I had co-authored a three-part series
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    into how the military mishandles cases
    of sexual assault and domestic violence,
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    and that had resonated with him.
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    Not because he was a perpetrator,
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    but because the angry man-child within him
    considered himself a victim.
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    This is a picture of Brent in first grade.
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    His father had been raping him
    for three years by then.
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    A few weeks after this next picture
    was taken, when Brent was 12,
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    his father beat him so badly
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    that he suffered
    what medical records described
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    as "a left orbital blowout fracture."
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    His left eye socket was broken.
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    Records and interviews with family members
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    indicate that his father
    was a violent, sadistic man.
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    The two children from his second marriage
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    were both removed from the home
    because of his abuse.
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    And Brent and his brother
    were both returned,
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    although it's not clear why.
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    Brent's father told him
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    that he himself had been beaten
    and sexually abused as a child
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    by his father, Brent's grandfather.
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    And so the pattern repeated:
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    pain, degradation, shame.
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    Brent Brents did to others
    what had been done to him as a child.
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    And while he was still a child,
    like many victims he blamed himself.
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    He once wrote,
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    "I don't remember much
    of when I was real young
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    except fear and shame
    and lack of courage."
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    Brents told me that after
    that detective said to him,
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    "Turn yourself in, you little punk,"
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    that he, Brents,
    had worked himself into a rage.
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    Then he'd gone and committed
    his final horrific crime spree.
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    And I'm not saying
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    that these factors are an excuse
    for the violence Brents committed.
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    He made choices.
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    He absolutely deserves
    to spend the rest of his life in prison.
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    But knowing what happened to him
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    does help explain why someone like Brents
    could commit such violence
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    with such a lack of empathy -
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    that his brain was predisposed to it
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    and the abuse inflicted
    on him was his model.
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    It's human nature
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    to want to distance yourself
    from someone like him,
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    label him as a "monster,"
    dismiss him as evil.
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    We don't want to have
    anything in common with such a monster
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    because then it could mean that we too
    are capable of monstrous things.
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    But putting a rapist in the category
    of "monster" may make us feel safer today,
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    but it's more dangerous for tomorrow
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    because then we won't believe
    that the "monster" can be a neighbor,
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    a co-worker, a trusted friend.
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    And that enables them
    to hide in plain sight.
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    The dominant theme of how to prevent
    sexual assault today
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    is cloaked in helpful advice like
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    "Don't walk alone, don't drink too much,
    don't put yourself at risk."
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    And the message, primarily to women,
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    is "Don't get raped."
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    How about we turn our focus
    to a different population instead and say
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    "Don't rape."
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    And then why don't we take it
    one step further
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    and ask ourselves
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    what are we doing wrong as a culture
    that we continue to produce rapists?
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    Because whether it's the ex-convict
    who attacks strangers,
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    the college boy who rapes his girlfriend,
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    or the celebrity who drugs
    and assaults his victims -
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    they all choose to exert anger, power,
    and control over someone else.
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    And with that choice,
    they are all the same.
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    And they all leave pain in their wake.
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    I've interviewed more than 50 survivors
    of campus sexual assault
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    in the past two years alone.
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    And the details I learn
    about their perpetrators
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    paint a picture of so many young men
    being deliberately predatory.
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    They isolate their intended victim,
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    they ply them with drugs and alcohol,
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    they lock doors,
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    they ignore tears,
    they ignore pleas to stop,
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    they ignore the fact their victim
    is limp with fear or is unconscious.
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    10 years ago, Brent Brents
    was sentenced to 1,509 years.
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    Today, all over this country, we're seeing
    new generations of serial rapists.
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    Why is this still happening?
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    Why do we continue to reinforce
    the message to our boys and young men
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    that their worth is linked
    to their ability to dominate?
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    What if we prized compassion
    more than power?
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    When they're little, we tell our kids,
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    "Play nicely in the sandbox."
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    They get older, and we say,
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    "Don't get in fights in the playground.
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    Take a breath, count to 10, walk away."
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    Then they get older still,
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    and we teach them about the biological
    aspects of sex: health and reproduction.
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    What if we were to evolve
    those conversations with our youth
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    and teach them how feeling shame,
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    how feeling powerless, feeling angry -
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    all of which cover up hurt and rejection -
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    could cause them to want
    to dominate someone else?
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    And that they can learn
    to recognize triggers and not act on them?
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    At least start that conversation.
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    And then speak up
    if you witness predatory behavior -
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    and you'll know it when you see it.
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    Don't make excuses for it,
    don't look away, don't cover it up.
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    And because sexual assault
    happens on a continuum,
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    starting with verbal harassment
    and escalating to a physical attack,
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    speak up if you hear or read a joke
    about sexual assault or victimization.
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    It's not funny; it's not sexy.
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    It's dangerous.
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    If someone confides in you
    that they've been sexually assaulted,
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    believe them.
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    False reports are so rare,
    so yes, believe them.
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    Listen to them without judgment.
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    Help them find resources
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    and then support
    whatever they decide to do.
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    For victims, Brents told me
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    that group counseling for sexual offenders
    in prison does not work.
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    For an inmate even to be seen
    going to sex offender group
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    puts their safety at risk.
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    And once there, they don't want
    to be seen as vulnerable.
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    It's difficult to change
    when you're living in fear.
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    And if we really do want
    to help them try to change,
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    why not offer more
    of the respect and compassion
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    that can be felt with
    one-on-one focused attention?
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    Something a damaged person
    desperately needs.
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    Instead of building more prisons
    and focusing on punishing perpetrators,
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    why don't we try to prevent them?
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    Brents has often said,
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    by the time he was nine,
    his brain was broken.
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    What if someone had intervened
    in his life early on?
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    A neighbor, a teacher.
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    How could no one have noticed
    that boy who went to school with bruises,
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    smelling like urine
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    because he had wet the bed
    the night before
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    rather than creep
    down the hall to the bathroom
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    and risk waking his father?
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    If you help an abused child,
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    you could be preventing a lifetime of pain
    for more than one person.
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    So many people today
    live in what I call "garage houses,"
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    where the garage is the dominant feature.
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    They drive up to their garage at night,
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    the door goes up, the car goes in,
    the door goes down,
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    and they stay inside
    until they leave the next day.
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    They can't tell you the name
    of the family down the street.
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    They won't interact,
    and they sure won't intervene.
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    What if we dared to care
    without hesitation, without condition?
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    It's a harsh truth,
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    but our society cares more
    about sexual assault victims
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    if they are the right kind of victim.
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    Remember how police told Margaret
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    the DNA from her case
    would sit on a shelf for two months?
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    When Brents attacked victims
    in a high-income neighborhood,
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    that DNA was processed within hours.
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    Lady Justice might be blind,
    but she can sure have a champagne taste.
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    I stayed in touch with Margaret
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    as her case wound its way
    through the court system.
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    In July of 2005, Brents
    pleaded guilty to her attack.
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    Like many survivors who struggle
    with post-traumatic stress disorder,
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    Margaret was terrified
    of leaving the house.
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    She had nightmares, flashbacks.
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    She couldn't hold down a job.
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    Her marriage fell apart.
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    The day before the hearing,
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    Margaret asked me to deliver
    a message to Brents for her,
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    and I agreed.
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    And this was her message:
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    "Tell him ...
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    I forgive him."
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    It's stunning, isn't it?
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    How could she forgive this man
    who wounded her so?
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    Who nearly took everything from her?
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    And she said,
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    "I'm not thinking of the man
    who tried to kill me.
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    I'm thinking of the little boy
    who had the same thing happen to him."
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    And she said, "Hating is not hard.
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    But if I go on hating him,
    I will never get over it."
  • 16:21 - 16:22
    And she added,
  • 16:22 - 16:26
    "If it was me, I would want someone
    to try to help me or listen to me
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    and not just look at me
    like I was an animal or a monster."
  • 16:31 - 16:33
    She inspires me.
  • 16:33 - 16:38
    If Margaret can forgive Brent Brents,
    we can forgive anybody.
  • 16:40 - 16:44
    This case had a profound
    effect on my life.
  • 16:44 - 16:48
    It taught me that we are all connected
  • 16:48 - 16:53
    and that turning our backs on others
    is really abandoning ourselves.
  • 16:53 - 16:57
    It made me realize I didn't like
    the reporter I had become.
  • 16:57 - 16:59
    It was actually Brents
    who pointed out to me
  • 16:59 - 17:01
    that he and I had something in common:
  • 17:01 - 17:03
    we were both driven.
  • 17:04 - 17:07
    I quit that job shortly after
    his case ended,
  • 17:07 - 17:10
    and I will never again work in a newsroom,
  • 17:10 - 17:12
    because the desperate
    competition for ratings
  • 17:12 - 17:15
    is unhealthy for me in many ways.
  • 17:15 - 17:20
    And I no longer knock
    on a survivor's door unless I'm invited.
  • 17:21 - 17:23
    I started that correspondence with Brents
  • 17:23 - 17:27
    because as a journalist who has spent
    a lifetime covering sexual assault,
  • 17:27 - 17:30
    I wanted an answer to the question "Why?"
  • 17:31 - 17:34
    He began as a bug under a microscope,
    and that's what I told him.
  • 17:36 - 17:41
    Brent Brents became a lesson
    in humanity and compassion.
  • 17:42 - 17:46
    Even so-called "monsters"
    have things they're afraid of.
  • 17:46 - 17:48
    Brents wrote me about his.
  • 17:49 - 17:50
    He said,
  • 17:50 - 17:53
    "My biggest fear is that I will die
  • 17:53 - 17:57
    without ever having done anything good."
  • 17:59 - 18:01
    And that's why I tell this story.
  • 18:02 - 18:04
    Thank you for listening.
  • 18:04 - 18:05
    (Applause)
Title:
Have you ever met a monster? | Amy Herdy | TEDxSanJuanIsland
Description:

Messaging around sexual assault prevention is largely aimed at women and cloaked in helpful advice: don't walk alone, don't get drunk, don't put yourself at risk. Essentially, don't get raped.

What if we turn this attention to a different population and say, "Don't rape"? What are we doing wrong as a culture that we continue to produce rapists?

Through poignant storytelling, award-winning author and investigative producer Amy Herdy explores the cycle of sexual abuse and examines the dangers of dismissing our most violent predators as "monsters."

For more than 20 years, journalist and author Amy Herdy has specialized in trauma reporting, particularly sexual assault. Ms. Herdy’s professional engagements include teaching workshops on investigative reporting and trauma journalism for the U.S. State Department in Lahore, Karachi, and Islamabad in Pakistan. Her awards include an Emmy, a Society of Professional Journalists awards, a Radio, Television News Directors Association award, an Associated Press award, two American Society of Newspaper Editors awards, and a Military Reporters & Editors award.

In 2011, Ms. Herdy published an award-winning memoir, "Diary of a Predator," about her time at The Denver Post covering the case of serial rapist Brent Brents. In 2015, she was the investigative producer for the documentary, “The Hunting Ground." She is now an investigative producer for Chain Camera Pictures and lives on San Juan Island in Washington state.

This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at http://ted.com/tedx

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Video Language:
English
Team:
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Project:
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Duration:
18:11

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