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Racism has a cost for everyone

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    I am a public policy wonk.
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    I investigate data that points to problems
    in the American economy --
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    problems like rising household debt,
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    declining wages and benefits,
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    shortfalls in public revenue.
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    And I try to pinpoint solutions
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    to make our economy
    more prosperous for more people.
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    I geek out about tax policy
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    and infrastructure investments,
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    and I get really excited
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    by a gracefully designed
    regulatory regime.
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    (Laughter)
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    These are the kinds of topics
    that I was talking about
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    on a public television
    live call-in show in August of 2016.
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    I was about halfway through the program
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    when a man called in,
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    identified as Gary from North Carolina
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    and he said ...
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    "I'm a white male, and I'm prejudiced."
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    He then went on to detail his prejudice,
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    talking about black men and gangs
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    and drugs and crime.
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    But then he said something
    that I'll never forget.
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    He said, "But I want to change.
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    And I want to know what I can do
    to become a better American."
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    Now remember, my career
    is about economic policy,
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    as translated into dollars and cents
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    not personal thoughts and feelings.
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    But when I opened my mouth
    to respond to this man on live television,
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    the most surprising words came out.
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    I said ...
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    "Thank you."
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    I thanked him for admitting his prejudice,
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    for wanting to change
    and for knowing, somehow,
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    that that would make him
    a better American.
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    The exchange between Gary
    and me went viral.
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    It's been viewed over eight million times
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    and inspired waves
    of social media commentary
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    and news coverage.
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    And I think people were surprised
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    that a black woman
    would show such compassion
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    for a prejudiced white man,
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    and they were surprised
    that a white man would admit his bias
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    on national television.
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    Not long after Gary and my viral moment,
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    we met in person.
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    He said that he had taken my advice.
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    He said that my words had been
    like someone wiped the dust from a window
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    and let the light in.
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    Over the years,
    Gary and I have become friends.
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    And Gary would tell you
    that I've taught him a lot
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    about systemic racism in America
    and public policy.
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    But I've learned a lot from Gary, too.
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    And the biggest lesson for me
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    has been that Gary's prejudice
    has caused him to suffer.
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    Fear, anxiety, isolation.
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    And it's made me rethink
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    many of the economic problems
    I've been focusing on
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    my entire career.
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    I wondered,
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    is it possible that our society's racism
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    has likewise been backfiring
    on the very same people
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    set up to benefit from privilege?
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    Driven by this question,
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    I've spent the past few years
    traveling the country,
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    researching and writing a book.
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    My conclusion?
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    Racism leads to bad policymaking.
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    It's making our economy worse.
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    And not just in ways
    that disadvantage people of color.
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    It turns out it's not a zero sum.
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    Racism is bad for white people, too.
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    Take, for example,
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    America's underinvestment
    in our public goods,
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    the things that we all need,
    that we share in common --
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    our schools and roads and bridges.
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    Our infrastructure gets a D plus
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    from the American Society
    of Civil Engineers,
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    and we invest less per capita
    than almost every other advanced nation.
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    But it wasn't always this way.
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    I traveled to Montgomery, Alabama,
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    and there, I saw how racism
    can destroy a public good
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    and the public will to support it.
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    In the 1930s and '40s,
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    the United States went on a nationwide
    building boom of public amenities
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    funded by tax dollars,
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    which in Montgomery, Alabama,
    included the Oak Park pool,
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    which was the grandest one for miles.
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    You know, back then,
    people didn't have air conditioners,
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    and so they spent their hot summer days
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    in a steady rotation
    of sunning and splashing
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    and then cooling off
    under a ring of nearby trees.
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    It was the meeting place for the town.
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    Except the Oak Park pool,
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    though it was funded
    by all of Montgomery citizens,
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    was for whites only.
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    When a federal court
    finally deemed this unconstitutional,
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    the reaction of the town
    council was swift.
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    Effective January 1, 1959,
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    they decided they would
    drain the public pool
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    rather than let black families swim, too.
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    This destruction of public goods
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    was replicated across the country
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    in towns not just in the South.
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    Towns closed their public parks,
    pools and schools,
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    all in response to desegregation orders,
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    all throughout the 1960s.
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    In Montgomery, they shut down
    the entire Parks Department
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    for a decade.
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    They closed the recreation centers,
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    they even sold off the animals in the zoo.
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    Today, you can walk
    the grounds of Oak Park, as I did,
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    but very few people do.
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    They never rebuilt the pool.
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    Racism has a cost for everyone.
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    I remember having that same thought
    on September 15, 2008,
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    when I learned the breaking news
    that Lehman Brothers was collapsing.
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    Now Lehman was,
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    like the other financial firms
    that would go under in the coming days,
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    done in by overexposure
    to a toxic financial instrument
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    based on something
    that used to be simple and safe --
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    a 30-year fixed-rate home loan.
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    But the mortgages at the center
    and the root of the financial crisis
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    had strange new terms.
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    And they were developed
    and aggressively marketed for years
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    in black and brown
    middle-class communities,
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    like the one that I visited
    when I met a homeowner named Glenn.
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    Glenn had owned a home
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    on a leafy street in the Mount Pleasant
    neighborhood of Cleveland
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    for over a decade.
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    But when I met him,
    he was near foreclosure.
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    Like nearly all of his neighbors,
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    he'd received a knock on the door
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    from a broker promising
    to refinance his mortgage.
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    But what the broker didn't tell him
    was that this was a new kind of mortgage.
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    A mortgage with an inflated interest rate,
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    and a balloon payment
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    and a prepayment penalty
    if he tried to get out of it.
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    Now, the common misperception,
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    then and still today,
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    is that people like Glenn were buying
    properties they couldn't afford.
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    That they themselves were risky borrowers.
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    I saw how this stereotype
    made it harder for policymakers
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    to see the crisis for what it was
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    back when we still had time to stop it.
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    But that's all it was.
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    A stereotype.
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    The majority of subprime mortgages
    went to people who had good credit,
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    like Glenn.
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    And African Americans and Latinos
    were three times as likely --
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    even if they had good credit --
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    than white people,
    to get sold these toxic loans.
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    The problem wasn't the borrower --
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    the problem was the loan.
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    After the crash,
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    most of the nation's big lenders,
    from Wells Fargo to Countrywide,
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    would go on to be fined
    for racial discrimination.
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    But that realization came too late.
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    These loans, superprofitable
    for the lenders
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    but designed to fail for the borrowers,
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    spread out past the confines
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    of black and brown
    neighborhoods like Glenn's
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    and into the wider,
    whiter mortgage market.
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    All of the nation's big Wall Street firms
    bet on these loans.
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    At its peak,
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    one out of every five mortgages
    in the country was in this mold,
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    and the crisis,
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    the crisis that my colleagues
    and I saw coming ...
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    would go on to cost us all.
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    Nineteen trillion in lost wealth.
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    Pensions, home equity, savings.
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    Eight million jobs vanished.
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    A home-ownership rate
    that has never recovered.
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    My years of advocating in vain
    for homeowners like Glenn
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    left me convinced:
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    we would not have had a financial crisis
    if it weren't for racism.
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    In 2017, I traveled to Mississippi,
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    where a group of auto-factory workers
    was trying to organize into a union.
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    Now the benefits they were fighting for --
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    higher pay, better health care coverage,
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    a real pension --
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    they would have helped
    everybody at the plant.
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    But in person after person
    that I talked to --
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    white, black, for the union,
    against the union --
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    race kept coming up.
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    A white man named Joey put it this way.
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    He said,
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    "White workers think I ain't voting yes
    if the blacks are voting yes.
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    If the blacks are for it, I'm against it."
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    A white man named Chip told me,
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    "The idea is that if you
    uplift black people,
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    you're downing white people."
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    It's like the world's got
    this crab-in-a-barrel mentality.
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    Now, the union vote failed.
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    Wages at the plant are still lower
    than their unionized peers',
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    and people there still worry
    about their health care.
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    You know, it's tempting, perhaps,
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    to focus on the prejudiced attitudes
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    of the men and the workers
    that I heard in Mississippi.
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    But I'm more interested
    in holding accountable
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    the people who are selling
    racist ideas for their profit
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    than those who are desperate
    enough to buy it.
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    My travels also took me to places
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    where I saw, however,
    that it doesn't have to be this way.
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    I went to Maine,
    the whitest state in the nation,
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    the oldest,
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    where there are more deaths
    every year than births,
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    and I went to this dying
    mill town called Lewiston
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    that is being revitalized by new people --
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    mostly African, mostly Muslim,
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    immigrants and refugees.
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    There, I met a woman named Cecile,
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    whose parents had been part
    of the last wave of new people
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    to come to Lewiston.
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    These are French-Canadian millworkers
    at the turn of the century.
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    Cecile is retired, but she had found
    a new purpose in life,
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    by organizing Congolese refugees
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    to join with the white retirees
    at the Franco Heritage Center.
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    (Laughter)
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    These men and women from the Congo
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    were helping these retirees
    remember the French
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    that they hadn't spoken
    since their childhoods.
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    And together, these two communities
    helped each other feel at home.
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    You know, for all the political talk
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    about the newcomers
    being a drain on the town,
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    a bipartisan think tank found
    that the local refugee community there
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    created 40 million dollars in tax revenue,
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    and 130 million in income.
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    And I talked to the town administrator,
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    who was boasting about the fact
    that Lewiston was building a new school,
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    when all the rest of towns
    like theirs in Maine
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    was closing them.
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    You know, it costs us so much
    to remain divided.
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    This zero-sum thinking,
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    that's what's good for one group
    has to come at the expense of another,
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    it's what's gotten us into this mess.
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    I believe it's time to reject
    that old paradigm
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    and realize that our fates are linked.
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    An injury to one is an injury to all.
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    You know, we have a choice.
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    Our nation was founded
    on a belief in a hierarchy of human value.
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    But we are about to be a country
    with no racial majority.
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    So we can keep pretending
    like we're not all on the same team.
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    We can keep sabotaging our success
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    and hamstringing our own players.
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    Or we can let the proximity
    of so much difference
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    reveal our common humanity.
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    And we can finally invest
    in our greatest asset.
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    Our people.
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    All of our people.
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    Thank you.
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    (Applause)
Title:
Racism has a cost for everyone
Speaker:
Heather C. McGhee
Description:

Racism makes our economy worse -- and not just in ways that harm people of color, says public policy expert Heather C. McGhee. From her research and travels across the US, McGhee shares startling insights into how racism fuels bad policymaking and drains our economic potential -- and offers a crucial rethink on what we can do to create a more prosperous nation for all. "Our fates are linked," she says. "It costs us so much to remain divided."

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Video Language:
English
Team:
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Project:
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Duration:
14:21

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