Bold Conversations: Why Humility and Faith Aren't What You Think

yes hello we're back again here on this

podcast on the University of God and

today we want to talk about something

which is really at the heart of Jesus to

follow in his footsteps we have to be

like him and how can we be like him his

character and what is the one character

rine which uh you value so much to the

life of our Mentor Prophet TI Joshua

humil he said it and I think I have to

agree with him and I think anyone who

truly spent time sitting at his feet and

learning from him would agree with that

so there's something that you said rine

um a few months ago um that we actually

put on the uog social media and it was

um that humility is God's lift for

elevation do you remember when you said

that yes true so some people have asked

us okay what do you mean by this so we

actually want to take a bit of time

today um led by the spirit of God to go

into that issue a bit deeper so what do

you understand by that if was a the

result of a meditation and reflection

over my life and the life of many

general of God particularly Prophet you

mentioned if somebody ask me

today you have lived this Prophet josua

for so many years all of us for decades

two decades if they ask me what is the

greatest virtue of this man of

God the first thing that comes to my

mind is that it's not issue of power no

prophecy but his

humility what makes the whole world to

love this man of God and the day he

departed millions of people were

grieving many today are still mooning

his loss why Prophet because of what

humility if there is any servant of God

who has such a level of grace of God in

his life we have been with him we lived

with him when you talk about humility we

can talk about it because we live them

you know sometimes when you talk in

public when you a MST of people you can

you can pretend to be humble but through

humility reveal himself in the

backyard when nobody's there to look at

you you see humility

mhm I have never seen a

man who behaved as if he was the one

that needed go the

most why do I say that he never relied

on what God has done though he was

grateful but he live each day as if it

was his last and whatever has been

achieve he say God can do the best

tomorrow and the grace of God in his

life was so much

that he said one thing that shocked me

when they came back from the crusade in

2006 in South Korea I think 25 that 2016

no the first one the first crus okay

2005 2005 yes we when he came back we

were all in the car park waiting for him

he came he came out of the vehicle and

the first thing he did at that time it

was old church and there was dust

everywhere he knelt down in the dust in

the sunand while all the evangical class

were there around him he said thank you

all of you because this achievement

could have never been possible without

you without your prayer and he said to

us the lesson we need the more God

blesses you the more you should humble

yourself that's the only way you can

surprise

God the more God blesses you the more

you humble yourself and I remember the

first time we have the grace to receive

the anointing he sent us to pray for the

sick when he came back he

said when you pray for somebody a

medical takes place the person get

healed don't be excited it's not your

work don't stay there as if you did it

is God so anytime you pray and you see

Miracle happen in your heart thank you

Jesus thank you Jesus thank you Jesus

and leave the place immediately don't

stay there as if you already a miracle

that's what surprised me here one day a

great great great great Indian man of

God dinakar I remember who came to

synagog church in the year

2003 he said this man shocked me

I never seen someone who pray and go do

such a miracle immediately heay he will

the place he will pray for the person

and

disappear evangelist will come to do

testimony but himself he will

immediately move why he said to us if

you pray for

someone leave the place the glory

belongs to God but God does not like

anybody who say you're doing the work of

God we are not one doing it it's the

Holy Spirit

because of that he knew how to maintain

his relationship with

God he never arrogated any glory for

himself never he humbled himself to the

very last moment he departed in 2021 we

know his

liftime you may not believe it but

nobody can tell me this is the house of

prophet

yosua never we knew him living in the

church we saw how he lived

in the pray mountain in The Prayer

Mountain he said many have the million

and build house and he said for himself

you said me I build the house of God

first I build the house of God first

before building my own house I've not

finished building the house of God so my

house will

wait that's the lifestyle of such a man

of

God a man of the heart of God who lived

as if he needed God most like anybody

else why in in in his prayer life prayer

was a lifestyle for him every day and

what shocked me any person who

approached you can pay attention to him

he was accessible to everybody whether

you are a young boy or old person he

listen to

everybody and that strikes me about his

humility one day we were in The Prayer

Mountain going to the church and one of

the mama old Mama of Sanitation that

clean like see the door

flow I say Daddy I have a dream for you

immediately he stopped he said we go and

he stayed with the lady and listen to

her listen to the lady for good moral 20

minutes after listen to the lady he

write a dream and say thank you and left

he say when somebody has a dream about

me I will never disregard it I will take

it and go to God and pray that

possibility because say God can speak to

me in different

ways the question we have that two be

able to have such a reverence and

respect for God it takes true

humility because whatever we do is not

our own work it's Holy Spirit who does

it Glory belongs to God

so we ourselves we have seen God using

such level of miracle and prophecy

mhm but when we came to him he welcome

us as his own

children he welcome us and Tre us as is

no difference between us his

children I've never seen such level of

humility he could have H people from

outside they say you are my people he

took us train us build us and we walk to

the very end that's the Lifey we Embrace

that's a lify of Jesus because he

humbled himself God lifted them to the

highest

level from the very first beginning he

said God said I'll give you a small

cross mean if you are faithful in little

things God will after it that was his

lifestyle he never thought he has

arrived

so because he humbled

himself depending on God for

everything his ministry went from glory

to glory to

glory despite the opposition name

calling rejection of may he never F back

any person he never spoke evil against

anyone he dep on God to the very last

moment and he was never confused of

depending on God so

Ruth we are here for something we do not

deserve God's calling is by

Grace whatever we receive from God

today is not by our power not our own

might but because of what Jesus Christ

of Nazareth has done for us at the cross

of

Calvary that's why he said hm I was

shocked by that

word everything we do

consciously is not of Faith what does

this

mean everything you do by your own

thought by your own mind by your own

power it is you doing

it because faith is a

rest I say wow it is true anything that

comes by force is not Faith absolutely

so

we

Christian we heard that Jesus said man

was not made for the Sabbath but the

Sabbath was made for

man I said what the meaning of that word

Jesus

me why did you say that

Me by faith I'm always in God's Sabbath

God's rest because the Hest me that D

the work not me when I come and say in

the name of Jesus be healed it's not me

I call the name of the Lord I set aside

the person for the special attention of

the spirit of God and the Holy Ghost

come and does the miracle that's why

anytime the prophet pray for somebody he

leave the place why Holy Ghost will come

and perform the

miracle anytime you give a prophetic

word led by the Holy Spirit he obeyed

and speak the word and Le to God and God

will come and fulfill the

word that's why we said

today the gospel of God's grace how we

call the Gospel of Jesus Grace and

deserve favor and deserve

Mercy we are here today I am not better

than people outside the world I'm not

better than them because we all came

from outside we all came from Darkness

nobody was born righteous that why God

give me the grace to be here to call the

name of Jesus it's pure grace of God

pure

grace so when we recognize we receive

from God his grace we humble

ourselves meaning we don't allow Pride

to come and affect the grace in your

life so the path of Christ is the path

of faith and

humility when we say humility is God's

lift the Bible says in that book of

Matthew chap

23:2 he who exalt himself shall be what

humbled and he humble himself shall be

exalted that's what it means

now when Jesus came and entered the

temple and begin to

speak the Pharisees the teachers of the

law those who so much rely on their

sense

knowledge they say who is this man to

say this we know the Lord better than

him and instead of listening to what

Jesus was saying by Revelation they

opposed

him using their senses their reasons

that's why Jesus said it is easier for

the camel to go through the eye of an

needle that a rich man to enter the

kingdom of God that riches has nothing

to do with

money when you have too much of yourself

of your own

knowledge then you will never see the

narrow way of

Revelation you're my teacher Ruth I come

you to teach me

English if I don't humble myself before

you I can never receive anything from

you but if I pretend I know more than my

teacher I can I will not hear him I will

oppos

but if I'm humble like a baby look at

this baby pear this is humility by we

talking about this

baby she so much rely on us she cannot

do anything of she rely on mom she rely

on us for everything that is total

dependence on us she will never query

what you say that reminds me when you

were talking about Prophet josua I think

one of the things that really struck me

of his Humanity which is just Christlike

is that he knew he was just a servant of

God that he didn't

presume to plan what would happen

tomorrow what would happen in one hour

what would happen next week what would

happen next year no and I remember he he

said um both in a sermon and also to us

repeatedly in in you know teaching and

training us is that you know you can't

if you're a servant of God um you you

have to say as the Lord Wills you can't

say you can't just plan your life and

fit God into to the order that if first

and foremost you're a servant of God

then you know you you have to seek his

will and everything and I think that is

so hard for us to do as as rebellious

human beings um because pride is a sin

in Us by nature and automatically we

like to be in control of our own lives

and you know for us to be able to submit

to the spirit of God and we just saw a

perfect example in his life in that in

terms of submitting to the will of God

and not

and not you know being rushed by the

images of others not being rushed by the

timetable of others not being rushed by

the priority of others but no only God's

Will and at the end of the day I think

he gave a um definition of humility

which really sums up for me that true

humility is total dependence upon God

for everything and you talking about you

know a baby like our baby Pearl total

dependence and it's just a matter of

we're asking ourselves are we dependent

on God like that wow what a challenge

because like you said you know he lived

his life as if he needed God more than

you and me uh you know he included Jesus

in everything every little step what a

challenge and what a wonderful um

inspiration for us that's why

humility is a nrow way of approaching

God by

faith why do I say that humility is a

narrow way way of opposing God by faith

in God total dependency on God for

everything when the Temptation

came God said to Adam don't touch the

tree of knowledge and good and evil the

day you touch it you will surely

die when the enemy

came he came and tempted them by saying

God know that if you touch this thing

you'll be like him uhhuh mean you don't

need him anymore you'll be like God in

the knowledge of Good and Evil when he

saw it and said it was good to give

wisdom and knowledge she took it not

only him the husband took it and what

happened the relationship was

broken faith is a trust that arises in

your heart that God is reliable

trustworthy it takes somebody who is

humble to have a complete dependence of

god let's take the case of

job job was a rich

man rich rich rich very rich and a noble

person but

when adversity came and he lost

everything on the outside what did he

say naked I came from my mother's

own naked I will this spel and glorify

the name of the

Lord Abraham his faith was not based on

blessings his faith was based on

God so when difficult situation came

instead of turning against God no he

said God has given me God has taken away

they never saw God in the bad

light but Jesus came imagine what Jesus

did he healed the sick purified the

lepers raised the dead greatest miracle

happened but when he stood before Pilate

pilate said don't you know how of

authority to crucify you Jesus said to

her you wouldn't have have any authority

over me unless my Father in heaven give

me that humility to the

core when he went to the Cross he knew

he was innocent he knew he never did

anything Evil Jesus has capacity to

speak an angel Who Came From Heaven but

he surrendered to the will of God he

knew there was no alternative than death

he died for Sinners he never complained

he went to the very end therefore God

lift him up to the highest position that

no angel can reach at the right hand of

God he's calling us me to embrace the

same

way as Christian humility should be our

trademark of

righteousness

means humility never

discriminates humility never rejects

humility never

condemns Jesus accommodate all sorts of

people when Jesus came you expect him to

reject the Samaritan woman he never he

went to

her when the Roman Cent the Roman enemy

of Israel who took their country by

force

when the Roman C came to in in Matthew

chapter

8:8 Jesus immediately say I'm coming to

heal your

servant humility never

discriminate humility has capacity to

see the grace of God in life of

everybody humility always

forgive humility remember where he com

from humility of God is a source of all

goodness in our lives without him we are

nothing

so

today if we say we are

Christian arrogance and pride shouldn't

be part of our lives but

sometimes the not a way pride and

humility are opposite they travel that

absolutely they can travel the same way

together the broad way is a broad way of

Pray when we rely on ourselves by power

and might but the nrow way says

no I cannot do it Lord I don't know how

to help me I have no strength of my own

I have no power of my own I have no

power of B help me Lord I think that's

one of the

greatest gift of King

David David remembered that his own

father never considered him worthy of

being King he left him to take care of

the

sheep but those who are handsome

beautiful strong the father br them to

somewhere and God rejected all of

them God said that's small boy whom you

despised that's more Shepherd that's my

choice and you David remember the all

his life and became humble he knew

whatever he was it was God's grace that

gave it to him so never forget where

you're coming from absolutely absolutely

absolutely none of us is righteous not

even one is Jesus that died for us to

bring Salvation forgiveness of our sins

that's why he said if you do not forgive

your enemy God will not forgive you so

if you are humble and you know that all

we are whatever we are is only by the

grace of our Lord Jesus and the mercy of

God we would have mercy toward others we

will not be arrogant we not be Pride we

depend on the Holy Ghost I think one of

the reason why we don't see the Holy

Ghost today is because of that right

humility is toal dependence on the holy

spirit for

everything if you are a Christian you'll

be led by the corresponding power of the

Holy Ghost but today we don't wait for

the Holy Spirit we plan ourselves we do

our own choice and we say Lord come and

bless

it but youil woke up say is it your will

Lord Holy Spirit tell me what to

do Elijah the great prophet in first

king chapter 17 God said Elijah stand up

go to the brook car

there you will drink the water of the

brook I will send Ravens to feed you

there that's go said to

him when Elijah went he drun the water

of the

brook Ravens gave him food morning and

evening and he ate it Leviticus said the

Ravens are impure

animals so if he has listen to what the

Bible says in fath val will say is it

from

God but he never qued God he went and

obeyed and when the water was

dried Elijah never stood by himself to

go he

waited and God say go and do this he was

a servant of God absolutely so now if we

see how much we need God how much we

need the Holy Ghost we become humble

because I have capacity to preach nice

sermon without

life I can teach nice word without that

life but when the Holy Spirit Come he

preaches he teaches with

life so for me if I have to say humility

is what how much we need the Holy

Spirit we have no power of our own if we

depend on him he will come but because

we choose our own way we block his

hand and I and I really love the analogy

that you gave about um you know humanity

is God's lift for elevation cuz you know

when you enter a lift you think about

you want to go up to the top floor right

the

penthouse the the the top floor but we

don't know that in God's way of doing

things we should go down that's true to

the basement first and then God will

lift us up if you enter a lift us uh

call it skycraper am I right yeah you

say God is in the penthouse that's we

all said am I right so I pressed the

highest level because where I think God

is I go to the highest level I never

find God there where is God God is in

the

basement the underground car park

underground car park where you don't

want to

go when Jesus

came Jesus put a Pion of a

servant who knew that

this man that looks ordinary was the

most high God visiting human being they

don't know who he is in any in the in

the Frailty of a human baby absolutely I

mean we' just had a baby so we know what

it is to see a baby that is so frail and

vulnerable imagine God himself becoming

a baby coming into this world in in the

manger you know in a place which was not

beautiful in a place which was not clean

in a place which was not you know

honorable and

yet that is just the the beauty of life

that's how God hide his treasure in the

open yes so the people the poor the sick

the lepers the abandoned The Forsaken

when they heard about Jesus they R to

him and they

welome when people was hungry for

righteousness Jesus spoke for

ours but way truth was questioned

queried by human knowledge Jesus

remained silent

so the highway to Heaven is a path of

faith and

humility those who think they know much

H they have taken the

Broadway if you want to come to God

today the Bible

says we should not combine our strength

our knowledge with God's strength uhhuh

is that a matter of combining your

strength with God's strength how do we

do do a total removal of my strength to

put on God's

strength and that that you have to go

through a process of stripping to do

that absolutely it's not easy we know

who not comfortable we know who Soul was

relying on his knowledge rejecting the

gospel persecuting the Saints but when

he met Jesus humility found him and the

same poor became the most humble person

we have never

seen he sing gave his life for the

gospel of Salvation to preach to the

Lost he paid the Supreme price for the

gospel to come to all the four corners

of the earth that's why Prophet Jus said

the greatest prayer we can offer Holy

Spirit take more of me give me more of

you give me more of you because there is

nothing good in me what is good is from

God when I'm too much of myself too much

of my own knowledge too much of my own

Pride you block the hand of God m

and I think many people actually many of

us we we don't know that pride is our

biggest problem because Pride makes

ourself makes us see ourselves as a

victim and I think that's something that

so relevant in today's generation you

know Pride makes us see ourselves as a

victim as a victim of our circumstance

as a victim of maybe how people treat us

how people look at us how you know we

we're treated how but yet

it pride masks the true condition of our

heart and the true condition of our

heart is that we need God we need to see

ourselves as a sinner in need of

salvation but Pride actually masks the

true position of our heart and you know

we just see ourselves as a victim that

we just justify everything we do because

you know we we we we

deserve you know because we've been

offended we act as if we're the only one

offended we just act as if we're the

only one wronged and yet

I think that's something that God really

wants to open our eyes to one of the

biggest tools that Satan is using and

that is pride and many time pride is um

masked

um we might not see it as Pride but

remember Pride makes us see ourselves as

a victim absolutely God's wisdom has a

language that only humility understands

what do you mean by that

those who look at Jesus on the outside

and saw in him a mere man rejected his

words but those who are humbl those who

in need of a savior those in need of

help they humble thems and listen to him

and embrace

him yes and what what you said is the

very fact that Jesus came speaking a

language people did not understand in in

a situation in a land already there was

conflict coming from I mean everything

about Jesus provoked the pride of of of

natural people unless you're humble

you're genuinely seeking for a savior

seeking for solution knowing that you

need help knowing that you you can't do

by yourself your pride will be Pro

provoked and just as the same way that

the spiritual leaders of the day the

religious leaders of the day the people

that followed the status quo were

provoked and offended by the words and

the the ways of Jesus so many of us

today we find ourselves you know

pointing fingers being offended you know

being being allow ourselves to to to

miss the

mark whereas you know Jesus came to show

us the way and like you said the way is

the way of faith and humility unless

we're humble we cannot bow to Jesus I

think that's the key I think you mention

one word

offense offense reveal is the true

nature of our

heart humility never give me for

offense but offense feeds

Pride you this to me I will deal with

you why you this for me because we

compare ourselves with ourselves when we

are too much on ourselves we focus on

ourselves that's why I say holy ghost

take more of me and give me more of you

Holy Spirit of humility forgive my pride

take more of my pride and give me more

of of your

humility Holy Spirit of goodness forgive

my evil Deeds take more of my evil

nature give me more of your holy nature

Holy Spirit of love take more of my

hatred and give more of your love

because Jesus calls us to do what we

cannot do ourselves and the other day we

said it takes power to love your

enemy it takes the power of the Holy

Ghost to be humble humility no matter

what people do to you you will never

respond you will never fight back you

will say like David

said I will inquire from God I will keep

quiet I will swallow you and wait upon

the

Lord we learn from the prophet so many

so many attack you receive so many

accusation whatever but what did he do

he said I will take it and put it on my

Altar and pray for them one day we

entered and saw all the newspaper he

kept for so many years there's no single

good news all those newspaper are

accusation what people say against him

everything he kept it so why do I keep

this it caused me to pray the more it

caused me to run to God the more it

caused me to depend on God Tom more

because if I was appreciated by people

Pride would have taken me away this

makes me too humble what makes to be a

humility because of what persecution so

all this persecution all this trouble

help me to run to God that's why I say

your situation is extraordinary

situation because it caus you to run to

God to depend on God the more right so

yes that that's a real lesson for all of

us because look at Jesus even though he

was the son of God he learned obedience

through what he suffered mhm you know

and if we look at that many of us

through what we suffer through what we

go through we we don't learn obedience

we learn how to be offended we learn how

to stay bitter we learn how to fight

back we learn how to see ourselves as a

victim and um complain that's what we

learn and you know instead of looking at

the example of Jesus Jesus learned

obedience that is the greatest example

of humility ABS even though he was the

son of God Hebrews 5:8 he learned

obedience through what he suffered and

I think it's a great encouragement for

all of us that you know don't condemn

yourself definitely I remember there was

a um a disciple meeting where Prophet

tiua told us he said you know don't

condemn yourself because it's out of

Pride the humility comes as in when you

you

know we all start with pride we're all

coming from

Pride when you are surrender yourself to

God allow God's spirit to work in you

through his word

that Pride will turn to humility with

the help of God you can't do it by

yourself if you do it by yourself it

becomes fake humility and fake humility

um you know because of a specific motive

you want to appear humble you want to

appear good you want to

appear you know to have a good

reputation is that Jesus wasn't bothered

about that Jesus was good he didn't

appear to be

good and I think that's just an

encouragement for everyone today that if

you are struggling with pride everybody

everybody is struggling with pride if we

acknowledge it within us and ask God ask

the Holy Spirit Holy Spirit of humility

forgive my pride thank you for what you

say that now we know the reason why we

can't forgive humility always releases

forgiveness Pride never Pride always

feeds on the offense Pride always say

why done this to me pride pride want to

fight back Pride wants to enemy to

suffer for to you but humility

recognized others weakness and releases

forgiveness and depend on God so please

today there is hope for everybody in

this world today even the person say he

Wicked there is hope why the moment that

person humbly before God salvation is

offered King Ahab was one of the worst

king of Israel

worst but one day God sent Prophet

Elijah

and say this is going to happen to you

when he heard the Judgment what he did

he tore his clothes he humbled himself

put ashes humble himself go say hey see

him because he has humbled himself I

will not send judgment to you that's God

for you well that's the promise of God

if my people who are called by my name

thank you will humble themselves and

pray I will turn I will heal them heal L

second 7:14 this mean this world we live

we Christians sometime we see others as

enemy sometime we say people don't

believe Jesus they are bad they are this

they are that no that's not our

stand the Bible says if you go on our

knees and ask for Mercy for them God

will give them don't forget we were like

them don't forget we came from that tide

e Mercy that brought us to the truth of

Christ so instead of rejecting

condemning and pointing finger we should

pray for people if you pray for mercy

for God to touch their heart when they

are humble they will see The Treasure of

God there's a treasure set before every

human being the way is open salvation

for free whoever Embraces Jesus if you

humble yourself you will discover The

Treasure of Heaven I receive salvation

today so let's follow the path of faith

of

humility humility acknowledges his

weakness humility discover his need for

God humility discover his need for

salvation and a need for the Holy Spirit

the greatest

gift H that's why when the Holy Ghost

come what happened you are born from a

high immediately the Holy Ghost come you

become citizen of Heaven He will carry

you to the Floor of Heaven as Ephesians

2:5 said the only way to embrace it is

to embrace the work of the cross and

Jesus said carry your cross and follow

me mean deny yourself and follow me get

rid of Pride and embrace God's wisdom oh

that reminds me I think if we can end

with this because this this was really

close to my heart I remember there was

one meeting where I even asked Prophet

TI Joshua I said how do we get rid of

Pride and I remember his answer he said

he said Ruth why are you here and I I

thought about it I said well to be like

Jesus he said okay so if you want to be

like

Jesus the path to be like Jesus cannot

accept Pride mhm is Jesus proud no mhm

it seems so simple but that answer

really was fundamental to my life

because I realized that it's all about

our vision in life what is our vision

what is our goal if our goal is to be

like Jesus if our goal is to be more

like our Lord and

savior Pride cannot take that path Pride

cannot follow that path and that is why

every day we have to ask the Holy Spirit

to help us to to remove that Pride Holy

Spirit take take more of me give me more

of you and you know that principle runs

through life from top to bottom you know

I love the the parable in the Bible

where it talks about um you know if you

go to a banquet don't put yourself in a

high position absolutely because it will

be very uncomfortable and embarrassing

for you if you're told to oh please can

you leave the place and come down lower

but how wonderful if they ask you oh

please come to this place of honor and

that is just a picture of life and

remember it's not about false humility

cuz I think there's a bit of confusion

about that today you know many people

they have low self-esteem and they keep

putting themselves down I can't do this

I can't do that it may be false humility

you know on the outside we could be

kneeling down we could have an

appearance of humility but remember God

looks at the heart therefore and what is

true humility total dependence upon God

for everything it's not about running

yourself down or saying you're not good

at this you're not good at that or or or

having a low opinion of yourself no

that's not a definition of

humility humility is toal dependence

upon God for everything acknowledging

your position as a sinner in need of

Salvation so if you know you deserve

nothing you'll be grateful for

anything yes therefore the conclusion of

the matter let us get rid of Pride and

embrace God's wisdom as proverb 11

verse2 says with humility comes wisdom

of God wisdom

say the fear of the Lord is the

beginning of widom let's embrace the way

of Christ let's flow the way of the

Cross and Sky will be your limit that's

why we say humility is God's lift for

elevation amen and we pray that God will

grant you that desire and fear of God in

your heart so you can be elevated with

him because he wants to take you High

but remember to go high you have to go

down first therefore let us pray amen

Holy Spirit of Faith forgive our

out Holy Spirit of Love forgive our

hatred and lead us to love Holy Spirit

of humility forgive our pride and lead

us to your humility act upon our soul to

produce the beauty The Virtue the

humility of Jesus in Jesus name we pray

amen

amen the Lord be with your spirit