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The mathematics of love

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    Today I want to talk to you
    about the mathematics of love.
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    I think we can all agree
    that mathematicians
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    are famously excellent
    at finding love.
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    But it's not just because
    of our dashing personalities
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    our superior conversational skills,
    our our excellent pencil cases,
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    It's also because we've done
    a lot of work into the maths
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    of how to find the perfect partner.
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    In my favorite paper on the subject,
    which is entitled,
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    "Why I Don't Have a Girlfriend",
    Peter Backus tries to rate
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    his chances at finding love.
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    Now, peter is not a
    very greedy man.
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    Of all of the available
    women in the UK,
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    all that Peter's looking for is
    somebody who lives near him,
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    somebody in the
    right age range,
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    somebody with a
    university degree,
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    somebody he's likely
    to get on well with,
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    somebody attractive,
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    somebody who is likely
    to find him attractive
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    (Laughter),
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    and comes up with an
    estimate of 26 women
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    in the whole of the UK.
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    It's not looking very good,
    is it Peter?
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    Now just to put that
    into perspective,
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    that's about 400 times fewer
    than the best estimates
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    of how many intelligent
    extra-terrestrial life forms there are.
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    And it also gives Peter a
    1 in 285,000 chance
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    of bumping into any one
    of these special ladies
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    on a night out.
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    I'd like to think that's why
    mathematicians don't really bother
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    going on nights out anymore.
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    The thing is is that I personally
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    don't subscribe to
    such a pessimistic view.
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    I know, just as well
    as you do,
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    that love doesn't
    really work like that
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    human emotion
    isn't neatly ordered,
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    rational, or easily predictable.
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    But I also know that that doesn't
    mean that mathematics
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    doesn't have something
    it can offer us
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    because, love, as
    with most of life,
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    is full of patterns
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    and mathematics is, ultimately,
    all about the study of patterns.
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    patterns from predicting
    the weather,
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    to the fluctuations of
    the stock market,
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    to the movement
    of the planets,
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    or the growth of cities.
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    If we're being honest, none
    of those things are neatly ordered
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    Or easily predictable, either.
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    Because I believe
    that mathematics
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    is so powerful that
    is has the potential
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    to offer us a new way of looking
    at almost anything.
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    Even something as
    mysterious as love.
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    And so, to try
    to persuade you
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    of how totally, excellent
    and relevant mathematics is,
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    I want to give you my top three
    mathematically verifiable tips for love.
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    Okay, so top tip #1:
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    How to win at online dating.
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    So my favorite
    online dating website
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    is OkayCupid,
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    not least because it was
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    started by a group
    of mathematicians.
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    Now because they're
    mathematicians,
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    they have been collecting
    data on everyone
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    whose been using their site
    for almost a decade.
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    And they've been
    trying to search
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    for patterns in the way that
    we talk about ourselves
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    and the way that we
    interact with each other
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    on online dating websites.
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    And they've come up with
    seriously interesting findings.
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    But my particular favorite
    is that it turns out
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    that on an online
    dating website,
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    how attractive you are
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    does not dictate
    how popular you are
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    and actually having people
    think that you're ugly
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    can work to your advantage.
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    Let me show you
    how this works.
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    Okay, in a thankfully
    voluntary section,
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    you are allowed to rate
    how attractive people are
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    between 1 and 5.
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    And if we compare this score,
    this average score
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    to how many messages a
    selection of people receive,
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    You can begin to get a sense
    of how attractiveness
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    links to popularity
    on online dating.
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    So this is a graph
    that the online
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    OkayCupid guys
    have come up with
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    and the important
    thing to notice
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    is that it's not totally true
    that the more attractive you are,
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    the more messages you get.
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    But the question arises then
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    of what is it about people up here
    who are so much more popular
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    than people down here
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    even though they have the
    same score of attractiveness?
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    same score of attractiveness
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    and the reason why is that
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    it's not just straight forward looks
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    that are important
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    so, let me try to illustrate their findings
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    with an example
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    if you take someone like porcia di rossi
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    everybody agrees that porcia di rossi
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    is a very beautiful woman
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    nobody thinks that she's ugly
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    but she's not a supermodel
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    if you compare porcia di rossi
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    to someone like sarah jessica parker
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    now, a lot of people
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    myself included
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    think that sarah jessica parker
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    is seriously fabulous
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    and possibly one of
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    the most beautiful creatures to have evr
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    walked the face of the earth
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    but, some other people
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    e.i., most of the internet
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    seem to think that she looks a bit like a horse
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    (laughter)
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    now, i think that if you ask people
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    how attractive sarah jessica parker
    or porcia di rossi are
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    and you ask them to give them a score between one and five
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    i reckon that they would average out to the same score
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    but the way that people would vote
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    would be dry different
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    so porcia's scores would all be clustered around
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    the four because everybody agrees that she's
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    very beautiful
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    whereas sarah jessica parker divides opinion
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    there a huge spread in her scores
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    and actually it's this spread that counts
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    it's this spread that makes you more popular
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    on online internet dating websites
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    so what this means then
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    is that if some people think that
    you're attractive
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    you're actually better off
    having some other people
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    think that you're a massive minger
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    that's much better than everybody
    thinking that you're the cute girl next door
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    i think that this makes a bit more sense
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    when you think in terms of the people
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    who are sending these messages
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    so let's say that you think somebody's attractive
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    but you suspect that other people
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    won't necessarily be that interested
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    that means that there is less competition for you
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    and that there's an extra incentive
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    for you to get in touch
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    whereas compare that to if you think
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    somebody is attractive but
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    you suspect that everybody is going
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    to think they're attractive
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    well, why would you bother humiliating yourself
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    here's where the really interesting part comes
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    people choose the pictures
    that they use on an online, dating website
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    they often try to minimize the things
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    that they think people will find unattractive
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    the classic example is that
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    people who are a little but overweight
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    deliberately choosing a very cropped phto
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    or bald men for example
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    deliberatly choosing pictures
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    where they're wearing hats
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    but this is the opposite of
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    what you should do if
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    want to be succesful
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    you should really instead
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    play up to whatever it is that makes you different
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    even if you think that
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    some people will find you unattractive
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    because the people who fancy you
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    are just going to fancy you anyway
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    and the unimportant losers who don't
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    well, they only play out to you r advantage
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    Okay, top tip #2, how to pick
    the perfect partner
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    so let's imagine then that
    you're a roaring success
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    on the dating scene
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    but the question arises of how
    do you then convert
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    that success into longer term happiness
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    and in particular,
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    how do you decide when is the
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    right time to settle down
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    now generally, it's not advisable
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    to just cash in the first person
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    who comes along and shows you any interest
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    at all
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    but, equally, you don't want to leave it
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    too long if you want to maximize your
    chances of long term happiness
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    as my favorite author, jane austen put it,
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    "an unmarried woman of seven and twenty
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    can never hope to feel or
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    inspire affection again."
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    laughter
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    thanks, jane
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    so the question is then
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    how do you know when is the right
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    time to settle down
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    given all the people that you
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    can date in your lifetime
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    thankfully, there is a rather delicious bit
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    of mathematics that we can use to
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    help us out here
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    so lets imagine then,
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    that you start dating when you're 15
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    and ideally, you'd like to be
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    married by the time you're 35
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    the number of people that you
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    could potentially date across your lifetime
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    and they'll be at kind of varying levels
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    of goodness
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    now the rules are that when you cash in
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    and get married
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    you can't look ahead and see
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    what you could have had
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    and equally, you can't go back
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    and change your mind
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    in my experience at least
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    i find that people don't typically
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    like being recalled years after
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    being passed up
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    for somebody else, or that's just me
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    so the math says then
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    that what you should do
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    in the first 37 percent of your dating window
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    you should reject everybody
    as serious marriage potential
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    and then, you should pick the
    next person who comes along
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    who is better than everyone that you've seen before
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    so here's the example
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    now if you do this
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    it can be mathematically proven in fact
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    that this is the best possible way of
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    maximizing your chances of
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    finding your perfect partner
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    now, unfortunately i have to tell
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    you that this method does come with some risks
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    for instance, imagine if your
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    perfect partner appeared during your
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    first 37 percent
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    now Uunfortunately, you'd have to reject them
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    now, if you're following the maths
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    im afraid that no one else comes along
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    better than anyone you've seen before
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    so you have to go on rejecting everyone
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    and die along
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    laughter
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    probably surrounded by cats
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    nibbling at your remains
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    okay, another risk
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    is, let's imagine instead
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    that the first people that you dated
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    in your first 37 percent are just incredibly
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    dull, terrible people
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    now, that's okay, cause you're in your
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    rejection phase, so you can reject them
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    but, then imagine that
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    the next person to cmd along
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    is just marginally less boring, dull and terrible
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    than everybody that you've seen before.
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    now, if you are following the maths
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    im afraid that you have to
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    marry them
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    and end up in a relationship
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    that is frankly suboptimal
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    sorry about that
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    but i do think that there's an opportunity here
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    for hallmark to cash in on
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    and really cater to this market
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    with a valentines day card like this
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    [my darling husband,
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    you are marginally less terrible
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    than the first 37 percent
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    of people i dated]
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    it's actually more romantic
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    than i normally manage
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    okay, so this method doesn't
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    give you a 100 percent success rate
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    but there's no other
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    possible strategy that can do any better
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    and actually, in the wild there are certain
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    types of fish that follow
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    this exct strategy
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    so they reject every possible suitor that turns up in
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    in the first 37 percent of the mating season, then they
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    pick the next fish
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    who comes along after
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    that window who is, i don't know
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    bigger and burlier than all the fish that they've seen
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    i also think that subconsciously
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    humans, we sort of do this anyway
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    we give ourselves enough time to
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    play the field, get a feel for the market place
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    or whatever
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    when we're young
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    and then we only start looking seriously at
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    potential marriage candidates when we hit
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    our mid to late 20's
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    i think this is conclusive prrof
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    if ever it were needed
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    that everybody's brains are prewired to be
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    just a little bit mathematical
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    okay, so that was top tip #2
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    top tip #3 how to avoid divorse
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    okay so let's imagine then that yu
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    picked your perfect partner
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    and you're settling into a lifelong relationship with them
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    now, i like to think that everybody
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    would like to avoid divorce
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    from, piers morgan's wife, maybe?
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    but it's a sad fact in modern life
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    that one in two marriages end in divorce
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    with the rest of the world
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    not being far behind
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    now, you can be forgiven, perhaps
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    for thinking that the arguments
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    that precede a marital breakup
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    are not an ideal candidate for mathematical
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    investigation
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    for one, it's very hard to know what you should
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    be measuring and what you should be
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    quantifying.
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    but this didn't stop a psychologist,
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    john gotman,
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    who did exactly THAT
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    he observed, hotman observed
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    hundreds of couples having a conversation
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    and recorded well, everything you could think of
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    so he recorded what was said in
    the conversation
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    he recorded skin conductivity
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    he recorded their facial expresisons
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    heart rates, their blood pressure
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    basically everything apart
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    from whether or not the wife was always right
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    , which incidentally she totally is
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    but what got man found
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    what got man and his team found
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    was that one of the most
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    important predictors for whether
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    or not a couple is going to get divorced
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    is how positive or negative
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    each partner was being in the conversation
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    now couples that were very low risk
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    scored a lot more positive on got man's scale
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    than negative.
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    whereas bad relationship
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    as in, those that are pribably
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    going to get divorced,
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    they found themselves getting into
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    a spiral of negativity
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    now just by using these very simple ideas
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    gotman and his group were able to predict
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    whether a given couple
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    was going to get divorced
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    with a 90 percent accuracy
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    but it wasn't until he teamed up
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    with a mathematician james murray
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    that they really started to understand what caused
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    these negativity spirals and how they occur
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    and the results that they found
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    i think are just incredibly, impressively, simple
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    and interesting
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    so these equations, they predict
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    how the wife or husband is going
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    to respond in the next turn
    of the conversation
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    how positive or negative
    they're going to be
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    and these equations, they depend on
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    mood of the person when they're on their own
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    the mood of the person when they're with
    their partner
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    but most importantly, they depend on
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    how much the husband and wife
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    influence one another
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    now i think it's important to point out
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    that at this stage that these exact
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    equations have also been shown t
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    to be perfectly
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    able to describe what happens between two
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    countries in an arms race
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    laughter
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    so that an arguing couple
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    spiraling into negativity
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    teetering on the brink of divoirce
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    is actually mathematically equivalent to
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    the beginning of a nuclear war
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    laughter
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    but the really important term
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    in this equation is the influence
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    that people have on one another
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    and in particular
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    something called the negativity threshhold
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    now the negativity threshhold
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    you can think of as
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    how annoying the husband can
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    be before the wife starts to get really pissed of
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    and vice versa
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    now i always thought that good marriages
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    are about compromise and understanding
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    and allowing the person
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    to have the space to be themselves
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    so i would have thought that
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    perhaps the most successful relationships
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    are the ones where there is
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    a really high negativity threshhold
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    where couples let things go
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    and only brought things up if there
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    really were a big deal
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    but actually, the mathematics
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    and subsequent findings by the team
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    have shown that the exact opposite is true
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    the best couples of the most successful couples
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    are the ones are the ones with a
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    really low negativity threshold
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    these are the couples that
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    don't let anything go unnoticed
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    they allow each other some room to complain
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    these are the couples that are continually trying to repair
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    their own relationship
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    that have a much more positive outlook on their marriage
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    couples that don't let things go
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    and couples that don't let trivial things end up being
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    a really big deal
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    now of course, it takes more than just a low negativity
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    threshold and not compromising
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    to have a succesful relationship
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    but i think that it's quite interesting
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    to know that there is really
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    mathematical evidence to support that
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    you should never let the sun
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    go down on your anger
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    so those are my top three tips for how
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    maths can help you with
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    love and relaitonships
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    but i hope that aside form
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    these aside form these tips
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    they also give you a little bit of
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    insight into the power of mathematics
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    because for me,
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    equationsand symbols
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    aren't just a thing
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    they are a voice that
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    speaks out about the incredible richness
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    of nature
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    and the startling simplicity
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    in the patterns that
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    twist and turn
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    and warp and evolve
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    around us
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    from how the world wokrs
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    to how we behave
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    so i hope that perhaps
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    for just a couple of you
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    a little bit of insight into
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    mathematics of love
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    can persuade you
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    to have a little bit more love
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    for mathematics
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    thank you
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    applause
Title:
The mathematics of love
Speaker:
Hannah Fry
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Video Language:
English
Team:
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Project:
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Duration:
16:56
  • NG

    Hi English LC,

    At 14:35:88, the word 'threshhold' has an extra 'h'.

    'and in particular, something called
    the negativity threshhold.'

  • The English transcript was updated on 2/28/2017.

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