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Thorium, an alternative nuclear fuel

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    Nearly everyone in the world
    is part of some community,
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    whether large or small.
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    And all of these communities
    have similar needs.
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    They need light,
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    they need heat
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    they need air-conditioning.
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    People can't function very well
    when it's too hot or too cold.
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    They need food to be grown or provided,
    distributed and stored safely.
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    They need waste products to be collected,
    removed and processed.
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    People in the community need to be able
    to get from one place to another
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    as quickly as possible.
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    And a supply of energy is the basis
    for all of these activities.
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    Energy in the form of electricity
    provides light and air-conditioning.
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    Energy in the form of heat keeps us warm.
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    And energy in chemical
    form provides fertilizer;
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    it drives farm machinery
    and transportation energy.
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    Now, I spent 10 years working at NASA.
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    In the beginning of my time there in 2000,
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    I was very interested in communities.
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    But this is the kind of community
    I was thinking of --
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    a lunar community
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    It had all of the same needs
    as a community on Earth would have,
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    but it had some very unique constraints.
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    And we had to think about
    how we would provide energy
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    for this very unique community.
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    There’s no coal on the Moon.
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    There's no petroleum.
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    There’s no natural gas.
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    There's no atmosphere.
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    There’s no wind, either.
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    And solar power had a real problem:
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    the Moon orbits the Earth once a month.
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    For two weeks, the sun goes down,
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    and your solar panels
    don't make any energy.
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    If you want to try to store
    enough energy in batteries for two weeks,
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    it just simply isn't practical.
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    So nuclear energy
    was really the only choice.
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    Now, back in 2000, I didn't really know
    too much about nuclear power,
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    so I started trying to learn.
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    Almost all of the nuclear power
    we use on Earth today uses water
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    as a basic coolant.
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    This has some advantages,
    but it has a lot of disadvantages.
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    If you want to generate electricity,
    you have to get the water a lot hotter
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    than you normally can.
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    At normal pressures, water will boil
    at 100 degrees Celsius.
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    This isn't nearly hot enough
    to generate electricity effectively.
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    So water-cooled reactors have to run
    at much higher pressures
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    than atmospheric pressure.
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    Some water-cooled reactors run
    at over 70 atmospheres of pressure,
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    and others have to run at as much as
    150 atmospheres of pressure.
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    There's no getting around this;
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    it's simply what you have to do
    if you want to generate electricity
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    using a water-cooled reactor.
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    This means you have to build
    a water-cooled reactor
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    as a pressure vessel,
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    with steel walls
    over 20 centimeters thick.
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    If that sounds heavy,
    that's because it is.
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    Things get a lot worse
    if you have an accident
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    where you lose pressure
    inside the reactor.
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    If you have liquid water
    at 300 degrees Celsius
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    and suddenly you depressurize it,
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    it doesn't stay liquid for very long;
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    it flashes into steam.
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    So water-cooled reactors are built
    inside of big, thick concrete buildings
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    called containment buildings,
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    which are meant to hold all of the steam
    that would come out of the reactor
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    if you had an accident
    where you lost pressure.
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    Steam takes up about 1,000 times
    more volume than liquid water,
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    so the containment building
    ends up being very large,
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    relative to the size of the reactor.
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    Another bad thing happens
    if you lose pressure
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    and your water flashes to steam.
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    If you don't get emergency coolant
    to the fuel in the reactor,
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    it can overheat and melt.
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    The reactors we have today
    use uranium oxide as a fuel.
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    It's a ceramic material
    similar in performance
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    to the ceramics we use to make
    coffee cups or cookware
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    or the bricks we use to line fireplaces.
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    They're chemically stable,
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    but they're not very good
    at transferring heat.
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    If you lose pressure, you lose your water,
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    and soon your fuel will melt down
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    and release the radioactive
    fission products within it.
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    Making solid nuclear fuel
    is a complicated and expensive process.
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    And we extract less than one percent
    of the energy for the nuclear fuel
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    before it can no longer
    remain in the reactor.
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    Water-cooled reactors have
    another additional challenge:
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    they need to be near
    large bodies of water,
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    where the steam they generate
    can be cooled and condensed.
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    Otherwise, they can't generate
    electrical power.
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    Now, there's no lakes
    or rivers on the Moon,
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    so if all of this makes it sound
    like water-cooled reactors
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    aren't such a good fit
    for a lunar community,
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    I would tend to agree with you.
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    (Laughter)
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    I had the good fortune to learn about
    a different form of nuclear power
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    that doesn't have all these problems,
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    for a very simple reason:
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    it's not based on water-cooling,
    and it doesn't use solid fuel.
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    Surprisingly, it's based on salt.
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    One day, I was at a friend's
    office at work,
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    and I noticed this book on the shelf,
    "Fluid Fuel Reactors."
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    I was interested
    and asked him if I could borrow it.
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    Inside that book, I learned
    about research in the United States
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    back in the 1950s,
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    into a kind of reactor
    that wasn't based on solid fuel
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    or on water-cooling.
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    It didn't have the problems
    of the water-cooled reactor,
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    and the reason why was pretty neat.
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    It used a mixture of fluoride salts
    as a nuclear fuel,
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    specifically, the fluorides of lithium,
    beryllium, uranium and thorium.
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    Fluoride salts are remarkably
    chemically stable.
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    They do not react with air and water.
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    You have to heat them up
    to about 400 degrees Celsius
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    to get them to melt.
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    But that's actually perfect
    for trying to generate power
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    in a nuclear reactor.
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    Here's the real magic:
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    they don't have to operate
    at high pressure.
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    And that makes the biggest
    difference of all.
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    This means they don't have to be
    in heavy, thick steel pressure vessels,
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    they don't have to use water for coolant
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    and there's nothing in the reactor
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    that's going to make
    a big change in density, like water.
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    So the containment building
    around the reactor
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    can be much smaller and close-fitting.
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    Unlike the solid fuels that can melt down
    if you stop cooling them,
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    these liquid fluoride fuels
    are already melted,
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    at a much, much lower temperature.
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    In normal operation,
    you have a little plug here
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    at the bottom of the reactor vessel.
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    This plug is made
    out of a piece of frozen salt
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    that you've kept frozen
    by blowing cool gas
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    over the outside of the pipe.
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    If there's an emergency
    and you lose all the power
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    to your nuclear power plant,
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    the little blower stops blowing,
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    the frozen plug of salt melts,
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    and the liquid fluoride fuel
    inside the reactor
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    drains out of the vessel, through the line
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    and into another vessel
    called a drain tank.
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    Inside the drain tank, it's all configured
    to maximize the transfer of heat,
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    so as to keep the salt passively cooled
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    as its heat load drops over time.
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    In water-cooled reactors,
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    you generally have to provide
    power to the plant
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    to keep the water circulating
    and to prevent a meltdown,
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    as we saw in Japan.
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    But in this reactor,
    if you lose the power to the reactor,
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    it shuts itself down all by itself,
    without human intervention,
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    and puts itself in a safe
    and controlled configuration.
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    Now, this was sounding pretty good to me,
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    and I was excited about the potential
    of using a liquid fluoride reactor
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    to power a lunar community.
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    But then I learned about thorium,
    and the story got even better.
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    Thorium is a naturally
    occurring nuclear fuel
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    that is four times more common
    in the Earth's crust than uranium.
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    It can be used in liquid fluoride
    thorium reactors
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    to produce electrical energy, heat
    and other valuable products.
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    It's so energy-dense that you could hold
    a lifetime supply of thorium energy
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    in the palm of your hand.
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    Thorium is also common on the Moon
    and easy to find.
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    Here's an actual map of where
    the lunar thorium is located.
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    Thorium has an electromagnetic signature
    that makes it easy to find,
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    even from a spacecraft.
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    With the energy generated
    from a liquid fluoride thorium reactor,
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    we could recycle all of the air,
    water and waste products
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    within the lunar community.
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    In fact, doing so would be
    an absolute requirement for success.
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    We could grow the crops needed
    to feed the members of the community
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    even during the two-week lunar night,
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    using light and power from the reactor.
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    It seemed like the liquid fluoride
    thorium reactor, or LFTR,
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    could be the power source that could make
    a self-sustainable lunar colony
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    a reality.
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    But I had a simple question:
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    If it was such a great thing
    for a community on the Moon,
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    why not a community on the Earth,
    a community of the future,
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    self-sustaining and energy-independent?
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    The same energy generation
    and recycling techniques
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    that could have a powerful impact
    on surviving on the Moon
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    could also have a powerful impact
    on surviving on the Earth.
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    Right now, we're burning fossil fuels
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    because they're easy to find
    and because we can.
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    Unfortunately, they're making some parts
    of our planet look like the Moon.
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    Using fossil fuels
    entangles us in conflict
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    in unstable regions of the world
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    and costs money and lives.
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    Things could be very different
    if we were using thorium.
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    You see, in a LFTR, we could use thorium
    about 200 times more efficiently
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    than we're using uranium now.
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    And because the LFTR is capable
    of almost completely releasing
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    the energy in thorium,
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    this reduces the waste generated
    over uranium by factors of hundreds,
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    and by factors of millions
    over fossil fuels.
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    We're still going to need liquid fuels
    for vehicles and machinery,
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    but we could generate these liquid fuels
    from the carbon dioxide in the atmosphere
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    and from water, much like nature does.
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    We could generate hydrogen
    by splitting water
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    and combining it with carbon
    harvested from CO2 in the atmosphere,
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    making fuels like methanol,
    ammonia, and dimethyl ether,
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    which could be a direct replacement
    for diesel fuels.
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    Imagine carbon-neutral
    gasoline and diesel,
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    sustainable and self-produced.
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    Do we have enough thorium?
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    Yes, we do.
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    In fact, in the United States, we have
    over 3,200 metric tons of thorium
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    that was stockpiled 50 years ago
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    and is currently buried
    in a shallow trench in Nevada.
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    This thorium, if used in LFTRs,
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    could produce almost as much energy
    as the United States uses in three years.
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    And thorium is not
    a rare substance, either.
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    There are many sites
    like this one in Idaho,
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    where an area the size of a football field
    would produce enough thorium each year
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    to power the entire world.
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    Using liquid fluoride thorium technology,
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    we could move away from
    expensive and difficult aspects
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    of current water-cooled, solid-fueled
    uranium nuclear power.
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    We wouldn't need large,
    high-pressure nuclear reactors
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    and big containment buildings
    that they go in.
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    We wouldn't need large,
    low-efficiency steam turbines.
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    We wouldn't need to have
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    as many long-distance power
    transmission infrastructure,
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    because thorium is
    a very portable energy source
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    that can be located
    near to where it is needed.
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    A liquid fluoride thorium reactor
    would be a compact facility,
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    very energy-efficient and safe,
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    that would produce the energy
    we need day and night,
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    and without respect to weather conditions.
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    In 2007, we used
    five billion tons of coal,
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    31 billion barrels of oil
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    and five trillion cubic meters
    of natural gas,
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    along with 65,000 tons of uranium
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    to produce the world's energy.
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    With thorium, we could do the same thing
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    with 7,000 tons of thorium
    that could be mined at a single site.
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    If all this sounds interesting to you,
    I invite you to visit our website,
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    where a growing and enthusiastic
    online community of thorium advocates
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    is working to tell the world
    about how we can realize a clean, safe
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    and sustainable energy future,
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    based on the energies of thorium.
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    Thank you very much.
    (Applause)
Title:
Thorium, an alternative nuclear fuel
Speaker:
Kirk Sorensen
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Video Language:
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