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40 Years of Life in Plum Village | Panel Sharing from Residents and Dharma Teachers | 08 06 2022

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    Hello everybody
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    Thank you so much for being here on what I
    hope is a very lazy day or as lazy as possible
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    day for us.
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    We're very happy to be able to share with
    you as a community a little bit chat - show style
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    for what we hope will be a relaxed and enjoyable
    session really touching the spirit of community
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    and many of our collective memories with our
    teacher.
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    We are aware that many of us have arrived
    in plum village at all sorts of different
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    times and today we will be hearing from some
    of us who arrived in the early 1980s, in the
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    1990s.
    And we also want to look forward to some of
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    the life spirit of the sangha currently active
    and looking forward maybe to the next decade
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    or two as a beloved community.
    So we hope that by hearing voices from different
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    sangha members we will really see the river
    that Sister Dinh Nghiem was talking about
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    in her Dharma talk yesterday and we will also
    get a sense of the spirit of community.
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    I think Plum Village has always been made
    of whoever is here and i think Thay's teachings
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    have also been made from whoever is here.
    Thay didn't create his teachings in a vacuum
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    but in relationship with his community and
    Thay's teachings have also evolved over time
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    and Plum Village has evolved the atmosphere
    has evolved. So today we will try to hear
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    a little bit what some of those earlier chapters
    of plum village might have been like and to
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    see that evolution.
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    And I brought with me a very very big bag
    of Thay's books and this is not even a quarter
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    of them. But I hope from time to time to show
    you a book so you can start to see a bit how
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    Thay's teachings evolved over time and how
    his insights and experiences in community
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    and largely here in Plum Village shaped his
    teachings and what he was writing about at
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    the time.
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    We have a wonderful truck. We have a chance
    to contemplate the compost that becomes the flowers
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    In Sister Dinh Nghiem's talk she mentioned
    the teachings of master Tang Hoi and she was
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    saying that when Thay was in Paris he had
    a chance to do research in the library there
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    to discover the first zen teacher who came
    from Vietnam and brought zen buddhism to China
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    so I just wanted to give one advertisement
    for this book if you are interested in the
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    roots of our tradition, it's really wonderful
    to understand how deep our roots go. Book
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    number one. I think I'm going to need a big
    pile.
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    The title is Master Tang Hoi - first zen teacher
    in Vietnam and China.
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    And for those of you who haven't read about
    Thay's years of activism and engagement in
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    the 1960s when Sister Dinh was sharing about
    how much Thay did in such a short period of
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    time a lot of that is recorded in Thay's journals
    Fragrant Palm Leaves. For many of us I think
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    it's our favorite book by Thay, very personal
    so you can discover more in this book, including
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    some very powerful experiences and moments
    of awakening
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    when Thay was in the U.S. in the early 1960s.
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    Okay final one. Sister Dinh Nghiem also mentioned: "Zen Keys", "Zen Keys".
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    And in French, "Cles pour le Zen".
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    Which was actually the first book published
    by Thay here in the west.
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    And it was published first in French and then
    in English and it's very interesting because
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    Thay was trying to express how his kind of
    zen, the zen from our tradition in Vietnam
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    was different from other flavors of Zen from
    Japan or other countries. So this is a very
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    early attempt of Thay to describe the practices
    he was seeking to develop and offer in here in the West.
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    So, that's it for the books for now.
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    I would like to invite our bell master Sister TrueSound, Sister Khuong Am, to invite three sounds of the bell
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    and then we will welcome our first guests to the sofa who arrived here in 1983.
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    [Bell]
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    [Bell]
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    [Bell]
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    We'd like to invite Jean-Pierre and Co Linh Tue
    to come up and sit on the wonderful rustic sofa.
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    Before we start to hear some different stories
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    maybe Jean-Pierre and Co Linh Tue, would you
    like to lead us in one of the first songs
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    that you remember singing here in the sangha
    when you arrived?
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    Dear sister. During that era, there were only poems because for a while, it was a haven for refugees.
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    Thay taught in Vietnamese to the refugees. So there were only childhood poems.
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    So actually, at that time there weren't any Plum Village songs yet. He taught in Vietnamese to the children.
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    okay
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    So we will listen to a song.
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    We will sing together? But I don't know full songs ... just the start [singing in Vietnamese] ... I don't remember anymore
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    [Singing in Vietnamese]
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    [Singing in Vietnamese]
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    [Singing in Vietnamese] ... That's enough
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    Very nice very nice. So in Plum Village since
    the very beginning there was music and at
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    first songs from Vietnam would be
    sung around Plum Village because actually
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    at the beginning Plum Village was really a
    community in exile not only Thay in exile
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    but also sister Chan Khong other monastics
    who had fled Vietnam and also other refugees
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    so many people who found themselves exiled
    and ended up here in France started visiting
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    Thay at the center outside Paris and then
    when that as Sister Dinh Nghiem explained yesterday
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    when that center became too small then they
    found the land here in the southwest of France
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    where the land was much more affordable.
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    And in the summers Thay was offering not just
    a place of spiritual refuge but also a place
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    of cultural refuge where the children could
    learn Vietnamese and how to write, speak and
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    sing in Vietnamese. Where everyone could enjoy Vietnamese food and really have a sense of home away from home.
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    So maybe we can enjoy one sound of the bell and we try to
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    settle so we can continue. We're sorry that
    the announcement wasn't made. Our apologies
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    [Bell]
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    So, dear Jean-Pierre, perhaps we will start with you.
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    Can you say a little about how you landed in this part
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    in the Southwest of France into a community in exile?
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    It wasn't really that common.
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    And what did you find when you arrived?
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    That went very well.
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    I knew about Plum Village thanks to the Vietnamese community.
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    With young people my age, students in Lyon.
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    Perhaps 5, 6 years before I arrived here
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    I found myself taking part in cultural festivals
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    with only "boat people". There you go.
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    It wasn't a big deal. I was the only one with a car. So it was very practical for transporting things,
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    clothes, people ...
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    in the welcoming centers.
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    And one day a friend said to me:
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    "Jean-Pierre, would you like to meet a Vietnamese Zen master?"
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    I said, "Yes, great! I am very interested!"
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    And I had the idea that I would find a relatively old man,
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    with a white beard, and hair like what you find in Chinese films.
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    I came here from Cantal, which is about 180km from here.
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    And I found Loubes Bernac and Meyrac.
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    The roads were tiny, even smaller than now.
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    When I arrived, I first found a couple who lived in that first house there.
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    So I met the man.
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    He said to me, "But no. Plum Village is actually just there."
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    But it wasn't Plum Village yet. It wasn't called that yet.
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    He told me, "It's there. The Vietnamese people. They're somewhere at the back there."
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    I came upon the building which is now the small meditation hall.
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    I saw a Vietnamese lady who came out to meet me.
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    When I said, "I am Jean-Pierre". She said, "Oh, you are Jean-Pierre, who welcomes the boat people!"
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    I was very surprised, because I just arrived like that.
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    No phone call, just an address, not telling anyone.
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    I didn't know it, but the person who greeted me was Sister Chan Khong
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    She wasn't a nun yet, but it was already her name as a member of the Order of Inter-being
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    So that's how it all started.
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    In the evening, I arrived in the afternoon, in the evening she said to me "Jean-Pierre, for the practice, you observe the others and imitate them."
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    It was very simple. And everything was in Vietnamese
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    There were no earphones, or microphone, or even someone to translate directly in my ear.
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    Yes, I got used to that being in the Vietnamese community for 5, 6 years. No one translates.
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    I tried to understand by observing the movements. But no one translated for me.
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    But that suited me well, because I could sit somewhere, stay quietly.
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    Someone would offer me a drink, something to eat. Everything went very well.
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    Thank you Jean-Pierre. Wonderful. And Co Linh Tue, how was it for you when you arrived here?
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    The same year, but perhaps a different approach?
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    I met Jean-Pierre the same year. I was a student in a preparatory course to become a nurse.
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    I boarded in a small room with a pastor.
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    Between school and my room,
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    there was a small pagoda,
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    or more of an apartment. The venerable Nhu Tuan was there with Sister Trung Chinh.
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    I went there every day to have dinner, because the pastor didn't want me to cook in the room.
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    And to recite a sutra with them.
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    One day Ven. Nhu Tuan said to me, "Do you want to come first in your class?"
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    I said, "Of course!" "Then come with me", and she brought me here.
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    I was amazed! I was born in Saigon, a cosmopolitan. I didn't know about the country side.
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    Then I left Saigon when I was 14 and went to Lausanne, which is also quite a large city.
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    So it was the first time I discover the country side. I loved it!
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    I discovered the fields, sunflowers, the crowing of roosters...
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    And rice soup with peas. I haven't eaten that before!
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    And especially Thay. When I passed him, it was as if an electric current passed through me.
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    He wasn't dressed as he did after receiving monastic students. He was just in jeans and a traditional short robe.
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    Just to check we have this in translation - what was Thay wearing?
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    When I passed him, he was coming from the Grange and I was near the bamboos.
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    There were just a few bamboos. Lots of mud. There weren't trees and flowers then like now.
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    Thay walked slowly, with jeans and his boots, and just a short robe - what monastics wear on the inside.
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    I saw and I thought - oh, it's him, it's him.
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    Then I came back 2, 3 times a year. It became my spiritual family. I came to see Thay, for the community, and for being in the country side.
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    Pretty soon you started to live here, from which year?
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    Afterwards, I came to live here with Thay for 3 years.
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    From 1986 to 1989.
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    Then one more time from 1996 to 1999.
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    Then the last time in 2013 Thay asked me to become a monastic.
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    He insisted, "Oh I am getting old. You have to taste the monastic life."
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    Well. I obeyed.
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    A good student. Thank you
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    During that era, there was a lot of simplicity and not much money.
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    The buildings were very simple and apparently there wasn't even heating. Is that true?
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    For me, I don't know. I only came in Summer. No, there was no heating. Just the wood oven in the kitchen, that was it.
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    Winter was freezing.
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    There weren't even rooms.
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    The rooms were just, well, down there there's a building.
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    It's an ancient building for drying tobacco.
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    Just a few separation walls, four bricks and a plank for a bed.
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    There were no windows or necessarily doors. That was all.
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    To imagine the Village at the start, you look at all that's here now, and you take out everything.
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    You take out everything.
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    And you keep only the places with stones.
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    You can still see the stones and you keep only those places.And whatever is inside, you also take them all out.
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    So my question is - what continued to draw you here if it was so simple and so humble here?
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    The food.
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    For me, it's more about "here".
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    It's very simple for me - what brought me back here was the Vietnamese community
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    Actually the meditation would not have brought me back here.
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    The morning after I arrived, Thay came to see me.
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    There were a few moments. Thay came to see me. We weren't not introduced to each other yet. He came up behind me,
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    He put his hand on my back and pushed me towards the children.
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    And he said to me, "Jean Pierre, learn to sing the songs in Vietnamese with the children."
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    Like Linh Tue said, "I obeyed".
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    The last day I was here, he asked me to sit down with him in front of the plum trees. The trees were already there by the road.
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    He asked me, "What do you think about my village?"
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    I said, "I think the people here need it.
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    And you will have many people."
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    So what made me come back was that.
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    As Linh Tue said, Thay did not look like a monk.
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    He wore trousers like everyone else, with boots, and a traditional Vietnamese (monastic) short robe.
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    That was it. I did not encounter a monk. I encountered a man with a great deal of humanity.
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    I don't know how to say it better.
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    I felt it a very deeply. And of course he is Vietnamese, and that meant a lot to me.
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    There you go. That was a motor for me - the Vietnamese community.
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    That was my motor. As for meditation, it was a lot more difficult.
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    The first week, my back ached.
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    Just five minutes and I felt it was already an hour.
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    So it wasn't great at all.
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    I observed, yes I observed. But I told myself - impossible, I cannot do that!
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    So it wasn't something that would have made me come back.
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    Thank you. The pull of the Vietnamese community, the richness, the friendship, the gentleness, the creativity...
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    Co Linh Tue, can you tell us a little what a typical day looked like back then? Was the schedule like how it is now?
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    Not at all.
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    Thay did not want to lose the Vietnamese culture.
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    There were just Thay, and Sister Chan Khong who was still a lay person.
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    We called her "Aunty Number 9".
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    Thay and Aunty #9 did everything.
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    The two of them did 200 turns an hour. Thay taught us how to meditate. He was there for the morning sitting.
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    He held the stick of a meditation observer and gave us a smack if we fell sleepy. Like in the Japanese tradition.
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    Let's wait and make sure the translator understood that bit.
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    The Zen stick, for sitting meditation.
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    Then we had breakfast. I'm afraid to say, it wasn't an abundant breakfast like we have now.
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    We had broken dried bread that Sister Chan Khong asked for at L'Eclerc (supermarket). Out of date.
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    It wasn't because Thay was poor. But they always, always thought of others.
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    They sent money to help the writers,
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    the elite of Vietnam, because for him the writers were the treasures of Vietnamese culture.
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    Every month we prepared small packets to send to Vietnam.
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    There was medicine inside so the families could sell them.
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    To raise the children.
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    Because in general the head of family was imprisoned by the Communist.
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    So Thay wanted to help, anonymously. They didn't know who was behind it all.
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    Actually I was still young and so hungry. One day I said, "Thay, I am too hungry."
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    Because there wasn't enough to eat, right?
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    We lived very very modestly.
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    There was just one toilet in 1983. Only one shower that went with it. To take a shower one had to get up at 4 in the morning.
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    But we were very happy to be by Thay's side.
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    We were filled with happiness, with serenity, with peace. His presence captivated us. His personality.
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    So that comes back to what you asked before - what was the motivation, the motor that brought us back here.
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    Thank you. As Linh Tue had shared, Thay and Sr. Chan Khong said it wasn't possible to save everyone in Vietnam.
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    They chose to focus their energy on the cultural personnels like the writers, philosophers, artists, the intellectuals...
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    Thanks to these small medical packets; because it wasn't possible to directly send money;
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    but the medicine was "hidden money" because they could sell it for money and buy food for their family.
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    That sustained the people who were truly the treasure of Vietnamese culture.
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    It was a part of all the activities of the so called social engagement for Vietnam of that time, the small packets of medicine.
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    Yes the exile of boat people was very present at the time. There were many deaths on the South China Sea.
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    Thay and Sister Chan Khong rented boats to save those people.
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    They couldn't continue that work and had to come to France. They purchased Thenac in 1982.
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    They continued their work in the spirit of saving the Vietnamese culture.
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    The days unfolded a little like now. In joy, in gaity.
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    Thay wanted us to practice in joy, not in suffering.
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    Even if there was a great deal of suffering in our depth,
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    because with the arrival of the Communists, many families including mine were broken.
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    A lot of loss. Thay and Sister Chan Khong, "Aunty #9", did everything.
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    Thay guided the walking meditation, tea meditation, Dharma sharing...
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    Sister Chan Khong did everything
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    the transport, cooking, shopping
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    and even took care of the sick.
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    When I caught a cold, I said, "Aunty #9, I think I'm sick." She said, "Oh, I will do the spooning massage for you."
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    She took out the oil and a spoon and did spooning massage for me.
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    She did everything! Spoon massage.
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    Her and Thay did everything. It was only in 1988 that Sr. Chan Khong, then Sr. Chan Duc and Sr. Chan Vi. It was also a surprise for us.
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    Three of us stayed back. Thay brought them to India. Before leaving they were lay and on returning they were in robes!
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    Only from that moment on that Thay started to wear the long robe and receive monastic disciples.
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    We have Shantum here and we will hear from him about the 1988 trip, when Thay started to have monastic disciples.
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    It's such a shame because we don't have 5 hours to be together.
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    And we will see a few glimpses into several periods of Plum Village history.
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    To prepare the appetite ... I don't know how to say it in French ...
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    To have a sense of appetite, for how we can have more conversations.
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    Just to close this chapter
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    Jean-Pierre, what was it that brought the greatest happiness to Thay? What was his greatest dream at that time, at the start?
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    Hard to say.
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    If I look back...
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    If I look at Thay and I see him clearly,
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    I see that his dream was only for peace to exist.
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    Deeply
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    And that peace could exist in each of us.
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    That's very clear.
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    That's what he has transmitted to us.
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    Linh Tue had said that the days passed in joy.
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    In songs.
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    Even though the songs of bygone days are not the same as today, but that's nothing.
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    Me, I am French. The French went to Vietnam and for sure didn't do only great things. But Thay received me as a child.
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    He told me, "Sit down with the children."
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    Today, I understand that it wasn't to learn to sing, but to learn peace.
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    That's what I learned.
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    Thank you so much. Thank you Jean-Pierre and Co Linh Tue. Can we offer flowers for our elder brother and sister in the community.
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    Thank you so much.
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    And I would like to invite Françoise and Shantum to come up to our "hot seat" or our "cool seat"
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    for the next chapter, a little bit later in the 1980s.
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    And maybe we can enjoy a sound of the bell
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    [Bell]
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    Thank you for being here. Maybe I will start with Françoise.
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    In English if I may. So you came a few years on.
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    What brought you here to Plum Village
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    and what did you find when you got here?
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    Ok. I'd moved in 79 to the Netherlands
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    And I worked for the International Fellowship of Reconciliation
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    And the general secretary at that time was Jim Forrest.
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    From Jim I learnt about Thay because Jim was the one who had spent a lot of time with Thay
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    in the 60s when Thay did all those tours in the United States to talk about the war in Vietnam
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    the "American war" as it was known then,
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    and the need for peace, saying - Vietnamese people did not want the war to continue, they want peace.
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    It's not a question of Communism or Capitalism. They want peace.
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    Jim, he passed away 10 days before Thay, that's interesting,
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    he wrote a little book called "Eyes of Compassion", about all this period, which is very nice.
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    I remember he came here in 82 actually, Jim,
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    when he came back he said, or maybe in 83,
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    he said, "I've just been to Plum Village where Thay is living. I think you should go. You might enjoy it."
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    In 84 we had a council meeting, which is an international meeting.
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    It was in the community of the Arc, which is not very far from here.
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    We decided we needed a car to bring material. And I said, oh maybe we can make a little detour by Plum Village and... check what it is
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    and so we did for three days.
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    I was sold, basically.
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    Jim had already given me a version of the 14 Mindfulness Trainings, the "Precept" at that time.
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    Which began with "Do not" in all of them
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    But, you know, having been brought up Catholic, it was not special or specific or ...
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    spend time because the buddha used to go up
    there to watch the sun yeah it's mentioned
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    that the buddha loved the sunset there also
    mahakashapa the first zen master was transmitted
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    the awakening by the flower sermon but for
    thai he just even the last time he came he
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    just spent the whole day in a hammock spending
    the enjoying himself so i think vulture peak
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    has become a symbol of our our community in
    fact after his illness i think when we had
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    our first gathering it is called the bulger
    peak gathering so when the transmission took
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    place for me it was just i was just organizing
    but i think that moment of seeing the uh the
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    hair being shaved of chiang kong of and you
    know uh stan annabelle and than men and then
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    a few people taking the five of 14 trainings
    on interest it was very moving because for
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    me it was like i could it was a very moving
    ceremony for everyone it was tears and it
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    was but it was for me also it's just like
    that memory is very very strong so each time
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    the monastics and others come and when thai
    came again and again every time everyone got
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    reshaved and mrs gina being reordained in
    a way on the belcher peak and it's become
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    a tradition of plum village and when we talk
    about plum village you know 40 years of plum
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    village i don't see plum village only here
    for me this is my spiritual home but i see
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    plum village on balcha peak and you know in
    the bay area and you know it's it's another
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    dimension of plum village and so yeah i think
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    to start the the monastic tradition for thai
    was very important but i think for us as lay
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    people he gave so much he really i think put
    a lot of energy into us as lay people hoping
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    that we would come up to whatever whatever
    that was and in the beginning you know there
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    was very strong uh sort of energy of lay people
    but as the monastics started after this first
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    monastic ordination and then more then slowly
    slowly that tradition became stronger and
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    that was what thai word thai was a monastic
    he knew that the best and he was experimenting
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    in the west with a lay thing which is culturally
    very different for him anyway so we we used
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    to come and go you know so i think i think
    that moment of the monastic order starting
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    on plum on vulture peak is very important
    for our history because when i see this 300
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    years from now i see that's i i for me it's
    clear it's a fourfold sangha that's the charter
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    of the tipian that's the revolution of thai
    is the fourfold sangha i mean the buddha said
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    it too but it's not just high but it's very
    much so i think he's always encouraged us
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    in that way
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    yeah i'm sorry i don't know whether that's
    one answer but it's not the yeah it's just
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    when you watch the sunset you know you're
    watching the sunset like the buddha watched
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    and thai watched and you sit there for me
    it's always in the footsteps of thai it's
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    i call it for such a buddha but i can see
    thai everywhere when i go on pilgrimage you
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    know where he sat and i work out where buddha
    would have sat but i know where thai's at
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    and where thai's you know had his which rock
    he sat under and how you know it's so he's
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    imprinted in india and he's a child in india
    you should see some photographs actually i
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    brought a photograph of him in india it's
    in your dining room that one which is with
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    the mic with a broken mic i think he's like
    he was like a little child like meeting his
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    teacher and his eyes would light up in each
    place he was like so i think here he was a
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    bit of a sage you know after a while everyone
    saw him but there was even when he came last
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    time he was like a young boy meeting his own
    teacher yeah thank you shantim and i would
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    always say he was so proud of the book old
    pathway clouds because he felt he was able
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    to give give back the buddha his humanity
    and so um through thai studies through his
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    time researching in the libraries and through
    tai's own practice and being in community
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    it became so important for him that the buddha
    is not a god but is really a human being and
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    i think what all our speakers have shared
    so far is thai's own humanity and tai's own
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    humility and joy that really came through
    thank you dear francoise and shantum we have
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    i have to be a little bit vigilant with the
    time so these are just taster uh words uh
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    thank you for sharing your hearts and your
    experience with us so we would like to offer
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    you our flowers of gratitude and the conversations
    can continue as the retreat continues thank
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    you so much
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    thank you thank you [Music] so from this period
    of tai we have books like the sun my heart
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    which is a very deep book and also the favorite
    of many of the monastics if you haven't read
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    this one this is a wonderful book
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    and then we have uh being peace and really
    the theme of peace in thai's writings so we
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    would like to invite our next uh ones to come
    up first of all we will start with sister
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    gina and steffy and then we would like to
    invite sister benim and bettina to join you
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    so dears a ghost in muay
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    so around the time that uh uh sister gina
    was coming and steffy was coming in the very
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    early 1990s as we as we were here tai was
    really beginning to teach about the sutra
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    on the full awareness of breathing so his
    first commentary on this is called breathe
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    you are alive and it went on towards the end
    of the 1990s tai then offered a 21-day retreat
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    on the 16 exercises of mindful breathing in
    vermont in the us and that book is called
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    the path of emancipation so you get a sense
    of the sorry oh sorry this was in florida
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    so uh you get it in key west so you get a
    sense of the uh the ripening of ty's teachings
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    about breathing but maybe we would like to
    hear a little bit how sister gina appeared
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    in plum village how did this happen and sister
    gina was already a monastic at this time in
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    the japanese soto tradition so dearsoco how
    how did you get here
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    part of the way on foot not by choice though
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    um so i want yeah and which year was it yeah
    thank you 19 the first 21 day retreat in june
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    uh
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    1990 1990 yeah so yes um so i was already
    ordained in the japanese tradition and after
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    three years in a japanese temple sotto school
    in japan and i had a great need to study the
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    dharma more because my japanese was not enough
    not good enough to follow all the teachings
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    that were given of course in japanese so i
    came to the west and somewhere in one of i
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    visited certain centers and in one of the
    centers i found a magazine called the mindfulness
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    bell number one
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    yes and i opened it read it and i thought
    that's where i want to go and in it it was
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    the announcements in a three-week retreat
    what was it what is psychology i think buddhist
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    psychology in this place called plum village
    merak france so i registered and um i knew
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    emme so i looked up and somehow i figured
    out i can't remember how that it was near
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    eme which is not very far from here so that
    okay i'll just go to email and then i'll go
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    to this place called mirak so i fly in bordeaux
    take a train you know end up in mma and then
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    um realized there was no way there was no
    transportation direction mirak so i looked
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    in the telephone book and i looked for plumbers
    from finnish property in oakland village so
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    and then i looked at every entry and i then
    i found um buddhist initiation something something
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    something so the unified buddhist church or
    something in french and i thought well i'll
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    try that one there can't be many buddhist
    centers it it may just be that one so i called
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    and um a friendly lady lady's voice let's
    put it that way answer the phone answered
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    and i said well you know i'm on my way to
    plum village and i am in emme and how do i
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    get to where you are and she said well you're
    not supposed to be there we only go to century
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    i don't know where central is so she said
    sorry we have no car available so i said don't
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    worry i'll walk and then she said well as
    soon as a car comes back we sent you away
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    i said oh compassion [Laughter] and it was
    a very hot day i had a backpack not too big
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    and i was started to walk and sometimes i
    get migraine when i haven't had enough to
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    drink and it's very hot and i developed a
    migraine as i walked and every time i put
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    my foot down it went in my head so i walked
    very carefully i mean you know the way i put
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    my foot on the earth and i walked in and then
    a certain point i came to a tree and i thought
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    i have to sit down it was very hot and i sat
    down and then a little beaten up uh cream
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    renoka french car arrived and uh somebody
    opened windows and said you must be centered
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    sister gina i thought oh saved [Laughter]
    so they turned around and then drove me to
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    the lower hamlet here i was welcomed by an
    western sister and then we walked to um two
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    roomers going to stay or something and she
    said i have to follow my breathing when i'm
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    walking and i thought does she have a migraine
    too [Laughter] it was just the annabelle who
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    welcomed me so
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    a very very diligent um [Music] and very kind
    sister as i got to know her i mean i i am
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    how did i say this i perceived her as a very
    kind and and diligent sister and i thought
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    oh she's going to be a role model for me um
    yes so that was my arrival here and then towards
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    the end of the 21-day retreat could you share
    a little bit about that retreat was it can
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    you rem what was thai teaching was and how
    did tai seem when you met him because this
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    would have been the first time you met him
    in person yes um so i was very impressed i
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    wondered whether this teacher was touching
    the earth at all it seemed to be floating
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    just above the earth and and
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    what really struck me was that tyra's speaking
    [Music]
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    using a very simple language for a very deep
    teaching
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    and i realized i understand the words and
    i need to be careful not to think because
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    i understand the words i have realized it
    and that there is a life of practice and looking
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    deeply and things behind those words so that
    was my my my um first impression and a lot
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    of gratefulness you know for a teacher like
    thai able to to teach in that way and this
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    would have been one of thai's first retreats
    in english as well yes of course that i wasn't
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    aware of [Laughter] here in plum village yes
    uh it was the first uh retreat in english
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    and the first 21 day retreat um and many many
    people who've been here before many from different
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    traditions also the japanese sotho tradition
    rinzai many many different traditions came
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    together here to study with thai that also
    made me look ah because i only knew the subtle
  • 54:09 - 54:15
    tradition and only the japanese from japanese
    so i thought well this teacher offers something
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    obviously that many people are looking for
    and i don't mean to say all than to step over
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    to to to the privileged tradition but to deepen
    or understand their own tradition they were
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    in better yeah and so what struck you about
    the atmosphere that you found here then in
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    1990 what what was i mean obviously we've
    heard the buildings were very very simple
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    does not look like a japanese zen temple and
    what else struck you about that atmosphere
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    here and what was different but also still
    zen yes
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    it was the most diverse group i'd encounter
    on retweets
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    and the atmosphere was one of i would not
    have called it at that time but sister and
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    brotherhood a family you know yeah although
    from very different uh traditions uh different
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    nationalities that never been to a retreat
    with so many different nationalities although
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    the americans were i think very well represented
    shantam was there i thought oh india is here
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    too is that oh india is here too yes i was
    very very impressed by um the diversity because
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    i had not seen that before anywhere else yeah
    and so you left after the 21 day retreat no
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    in fact i never left [Laughter] um i i had
    lived my life um moving from country to country
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    i lived in 11 countries out of my own choice
    not because of jobs and things like that so
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    towards the end of the 30 the three-week retreat
    uh one of the um sisters who lived there approached
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    me and said it i said we should invite you
    to stay indefinitely i thought that's that
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    word is not in my dictionary
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    but we'll see so that was in 1990 i'm getting
    me close to indefinitely
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    i'm still here quite close i'm still here
    and that is because um
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    it is always new in some way or another or
    maybe i have learned through thai's teaching
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    to look at all that is always new is never
    the same it's the impermanence maybe and the
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    non-self i think those that teaching really
    um yeah spoke to me and speaks to me and is
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    really expressed in the sangha that continues
    to evolve depending who is here and how the
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    atmosphere is changed by the people that are
    here and so i think at the beginning of your
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    era there were then the summer retreats that
    were more international with international
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    guests coming to the upper hamlet yes right
    and the vietnamese guests were in the lower
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    hamlet here really and so i think that was
    one of the few times when nuns were living
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    in the upper hammond and then so hosting a
    very international diverse community uh up
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    in the upper hamlet so then the two rivers
    we start to get the sense of different rivers
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    coming into the community and that international
    river may be growing every summer
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    yes
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    and it has grown a lot that river and also
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    when when you all arrived i think i said and
    i saw all of you i thought ty is so happy
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    because um i don't think there's one person
    who can continue thai but as a sangha we can
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    continue thai and and i also see the sangha
    is the most precious gift that thai has offered
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    us yeah i'm very grateful so thai is very
    happy as always very happy to see all of you
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    here
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    thank you dears ago so we have steffi here
    sitting next to you and steffy you arrived
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    at a similar time and would you like to share
    what kind of community you found in which
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    year you came
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    yes it's i just can relate to the to the sangha
    because margaret and i we arrived in the first
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    time in september 93 and we just came here
    for one week and it was in september and tai
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    was on a long tour in america so thai was
    not even here and what we encountered was
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    a beautiful sangha and even sister gina was
    not here because he was in america um and
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    i remember the the moment we arrived um helga
    from germany she was sitting in front of the
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    person building where she was living together
    with her husband carl and she was very friendly
  • 58:38 - 58:46
    and she received us very openly and and it
    was a small sangha and i remember as well
  • 58:46 - 58:52
    when we we did uh we got an introduction for
    walking meditation by sister ellini she now
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    lives in new hamlet and we were with the three
    of us just sister ellie margaret and i and
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    she was teaching us how to do walking meditation
    and we walked through the forest and then
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    in the middle of the forest we stopped there
    and we sang the song being an island unto
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    myself and then i fall in love um completely
    with plum village after the first dharma sharing
  • 59:13 - 59:21
    i think what really really touched my heart
    was that we bow to each other that was really
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    a completely new experience to sit in a group
    and that someone really was deeply listening
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    to me and margaret and i by the time we lived
    in a community in holland and we had a quite
  • 59:43 - 59:50
    a challenging community life there and not
    so well listening to each other and we came
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    to plum village be because we read an article
    in a dutch newspaper and the title was the
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    village of peace in france and we thought
    oh that sounds good we really need peace so
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    and then after this one week we decided this
    is a good place we want to stay here longer
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    we want to be a permanent resident of plum
    village and so we organized our lives and
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    we came back in the following year march 94
    and we stayed on then for two years being
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    part of the of the resident community of plum
    village and so at this time thai the community
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    was very small just maybe a couple of dozen
    guests and a couple of dozen monastics and
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    i think you were sharing earlier that everyone
    could fit in the small red candle hall for
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    dharma talks or for meditations and so on
    and would you like to share a little bit how
  • 60:56 - 61:01
    tai was teaching you at that time and something
    i would love to hear about what happened one
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    day when you went to the upper hamlet for
    a day of mindfulness and something unexpected
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    unfolded oh yes something very unexpected
    unfolded it was at the end of the winter retreat
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    and i think it was a winter retreat 90 at
    the end of 1994-95
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    and entirette asked us during the winter retreat
    very often please write letters i would like
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    to know how the practice is going i need your
    feedback i need your feedback from my talks
  • 61:29 - 61:36
    and he asked us several times and then quite
    at the end of the winter retreat we came up
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    to the upper hamlet and the torque would take
    in the small transformation hole so not in
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    the big hole so you can imagine that big was
    the winter retreat so we all fit it in in
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    the transformation hall and then we entered
    the hall and it was a completely different
  • 62:00 - 62:10
    setup all no cushions only tables with shares
    like in a school and i no it was it was an
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    upper hand at margaret
  • 62:11 - 62:14
    you would like to come sit next to me
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    okay it was an upper hamlet and he was already
    in the room and on each table there was a
  • 62:19 - 62:26
    stack of paper with a plum village mark on
    it very official you know and i was looking
  • 62:26 - 62:28
    very seriously and he said so examination
    today
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    and and then we all sat at the table it's
    a little bit um said okay there's a final
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    examination after the winter retreat you have
    to sit down and then you write this examination
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    take out your pencil it was really like a
    very very serious teacher and then we sat
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    down and he wrote 10 questions on the white
    board the first was how is your sitting meditation
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    how is your walking meditation how is your
    eating meditation how do you practice with
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    strong emotions have you practiced uh beginning
    a new are you in harmony with the sangha so
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    ten questions and we said oh you really could
    feel a very dense uh energy and then all in
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    a sudden he turned around and with this really
    big smile he smiled at us and he said so uh
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    you haven't wrote me a letter i have not received
    enough letters so this is now my way i need
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    some feedback because my teachings depend
    very much on what you are sharing with me
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    and so let's enjoy writing this letter to
    me and then he smiled and all in a sudden
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    this energy of of being very serious with
    just one smile and one sentence he dissolved
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    it and yeah you just could see that ty had
    a lot of fun uh by himself to have uh put
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    us first in this place and then giving us
    this relaxation and and you did all have to
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    do then sit there and actually do it yes we
    did it all and then and it took two hours
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    or even three hours to answer all these questions
    and then and then in the next dumber talks
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    he kind of gave us a feedback on what we had
    written and i know one friend she had written
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    on the question how was your eating meditation
    she wrote my eating meditation is good and
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    then i said in the summer talk okay listen
    this is not enough you can write that that
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    the food is good and delicious but only writing
    my eating meditation is good that's not enough
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    reflection [Laughter] so this is so wonderful
    because we really get the sense of a teacher
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    really wanting to develop the practices and
    the way to train his students and so you're
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    part of the kind of laboratory of teachings
    and practices as tai was developing all of
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    the dharma doors that he was in the 1990s
    the particular way of walking meditation here
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    in plum village the particular way of offering
    guided meditation which is one of the things
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    that tai has really offered the west and didn't
    exist in the west before thai started to create
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    these ways to combine key phrases with the
    breathing and of course a relaxed way of eating
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    meditation that's not as rigid as in many
    buddhist traditions and so on so and i think
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    tai was at this point also very excited in
    all the communication practices around deep
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    listening loving speech beginning anew and
    also the peace treaty so i would like to invite
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    bettina and sister binyum also if sister binyum
    you're still here wonderful to come up we
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    can have maybe could someone help bring one
    more chair would be wonderful can we squeeze
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    three in the sofa can we be cozy in the sofa
    bettina do you think you can fit in very intimate
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    sisterhood you can manage okay wonderful
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    you get the sense of the sisterhood spirit
    from the 1990s in lower hamlet
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    so uh sister binyam would you like to share
    a bit about your arrival here to lower hamlet
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    and what community did you find in which year
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    well i first arrived in 1993 as a lee person
    in upper hamlet in summer retreat and was
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    very very beautiful experience i fell in love
    with i fell in love with blood village right
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    away i had met tai already in germany on a
    retreat that spring and i fell in love with
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    it there already but then with the community
    here again yeah i just already when i met
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    tai just from i don't know five day retreat
    i think it was i felt i want to be a nun and
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    i can't be what isn't done you don't even
    know what a nun is you don't you can't say
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    that but it was in me and i came here now
    wow the free the freedom the peace peace as
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    freedom not freedom doing crazy things but
    the peace here and also sought away from civilization
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    in a good way sort of not the stress and you
    have to like this and you have to do this
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    but to live from the inside was very very
    very important to me
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    i didn't become a nun right away because i
    didn't trust myself with this inner voice
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    for a while but i came back regularly to plum
    village and to thai at that time came to germany
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    every year so i came to retreat with thai
    and this deepened my practice my life for
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    thai for plum village i had my own little
    sangha at home and at some point i knew yes
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    i really want and i can trust that i want
    to be a nun and was in mulhat too with my
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    mother who was old and sick i decided to stay
    with her and let go of that dream for the
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    moment but it really developed or became stronger
    that i really trusted it well while i was
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    with my mother four was a wish between but
    then it was yes that's what i want to after
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    my mother died i came to plum village in december
    96 and there we had just bought or blameless
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    had just bought the new hamlet i've been used
    to the upper hamlet and the west hamlet and
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    i almost stayed in the west hamill but everything
    was in the upper hamlet under linden tree
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    and then i was in the new helmet that year
    was the first year of the new hamlet and no
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    lay friends were allowed that time because
    the nuns should first nuns before when the
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    lower hamlet should sort of find their their
    uh fight together again in this new place
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    and well there were lots of things to do also
    i have one one not just the winter between
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    sort of one year nearly a few months they're
    in the new hamlet just being on their own
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    to to
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    to become the new hamlet sangha and that was
    very good for me i could really be with the
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    nuns right away otherwise i would have been
    with the lay friends and some where the nuns
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    but so i could be there from the beginning
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    so the the dawn of having of some plum village
    expansion um because i think there was um
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    plum village was a little bit illegal at the
    beginning i think the paperwork in france
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    was quite complicated and i think in the summer
    retreat of 2005-6 suddenly um i think lower
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    hamlet was shut down and that is the origin
    to why new hamlet was bought because they
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    had hundreds of people we heard those numbers
    from sister dinium hundreds of people coming
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    for the summer retreat and it was illegal
    to have it here and there was an old i think
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    it was some kind of children's home that was
    up for sale and they managed to find a donor
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    to buy new hamlet so they could still have
    a summer retreat so it was a last minute purchase
  • 70:46 - 70:49
    and that's the origin and then they took that
    opportunity of having different environments
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    to then create a monastic environment there
    in the new hamlet and sistibenium as a aspirant
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    to be was able to join that atmosphere and
    then here in the lower hamlet it became a
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    lay community for a couple of years and so
    bettina i wonder if you would like to share
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    a little bit about the effect of that here
    in the lower hamlet um so when the new hamlet
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    was bought and all the sisters of laura hamlet
    has been invited to move to new hamlet the
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    lower hamlet was a place where we could live
    together as a lay community for up to i think
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    nearly two years 98 and there have been a
    german dharma teacher couple karl enter garidel
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    who now was the indesign sangha in germany
    in design center and the vietnamese dharma
  • 71:37 - 71:45
    teacher couple an huang tintri now fabloo
    and sister queen yem and also juan and and
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    duke have been there and we yes the daughter
    and some other friends and so we've we were
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    suddenly yeah in this situation to run the
    hamlet and it was a wonderful time because
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    we felt a lot of trust from the community
    from thai to really make that possible and
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    it was really wonderful to do and yeah on
    all levels worked together as a sangha and
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    we had guests it was a normal life like in
    all the other hamlets with the two days of
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    mindfulness and in the beginning very exciting
    the first mindfulness day the first christmas
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    festival and all that and it was a day of
    a lot of a time of lot of learning and coming
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    together and yeah giving a lot of empowerment
    and also beautifully in this time being together
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    with a monastic community on these days and
    chai was often coming on lazy days around
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    resting a little bit in his room and walking
    around and asking us when he met us are you
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    lazy enough
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    and we felt really good taken care by him
    by this question and showing up and yeah also
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    like you said the community was so small in
    this time and we had not access to thai as
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    not monastics but he was somehow he was very
    present and available and walking around and
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    a little here there and a little how it's
    going there and
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    yeah he even visited us on the chat visiting
    room thing it was climbing up persimmon up
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    there and so it was a wonderful wonderful
    time this period and what would you feel with
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    the kind of em the place the teaching that
    tai was highlighting most at this time what
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    was he speaking about in the talks what was
    he guiding you all on i guess it's very very
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    very personal of course what i choose to say
    now i think in this year there have been a
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    lot of this basic practices like the sutra
    anapanasati and a lot of living in harmony
  • 74:02 - 74:06
    together and we were not asked to have a test
    but we got sometimes homeworks i remember
  • 74:06 - 74:13
    in this years like writing about what did
    you do when you had a crisis did you really
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    take refuge into the buddha in you and the
    sangha or did you start to judge and do all
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    these things so this kind and um for me it's
    it's the most i think through all these years
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    of this big treasure of ty's teachings to
    embody always inviting us to embody what he
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    was talking about like to really then practice
    beginning you or to really breathe when you
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    are excited and so um yeah i feel very basic
    living in the moment living the teachings
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    and also i've had a lot of
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    relaxation you know this are you lazy enough
    it's for me also a sentence of this time of
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    uh really we had a lot to do of course with
    the hamlet but the main thing was how is the
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    energy you are doing things always coming
    back to what is your energy and how is your
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    being and then to move out and do your activities
    i thought somehow it was very fundamental
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    very basic very grounding
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    a good a good memory to have the art of being
    peace and also while in action and sister
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    binyum do you have similar memories of this
    time what struck you most about this special
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    period in the 1990s
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    well after one year i came to the lower hamlet
    sister gina had been come the abbas and
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    it was no longer hamlet then was it two years
    from all i know it was 98 probably and then
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    they were only 12 there i think they started
    with eight and then four of us came down came
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    from new hamlet here and we were 12 and summer
    retreat people came it was full here and 12
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    of us had to do several things not just pot
    washing but this and then that but i loved
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    it very much it was very beautiful for me
    when you asked bettina what was the teaching
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    there all of a sudden it popped up to me i
    mean thai i can't say i remember that when
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    i came as a aspirant the first two winters
    tai was teaching the sutras that i know he
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    just took the chanting book and and taught
    sutra after sutra and i remember that sometimes
  • 77:24 - 77:31
    some in the middle of the suit were teaching
    he's talked about sister so-and-so doing this
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    and that he always his teaching was very personal
    he never just taught a sutra but he explained
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    then with the problem of a system it was very
    very applied sutra that unknown ties uh never
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    we should never just study the sutras uh any
    texts if they don't apply to our life if we
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    don't practice it there's no sense in knowing
    them and when you asked patina came up in
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    me that at that time tai was sort of for a
    while
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    advancing the idea that every not just every
    country but every big city should have a mindfulness
  • 78:14 - 78:17
    practice center without monastics just lay
    people and that's when
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    karl schmidt brought asked karen helga to
    leave plum village to come and he bought intersign
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    center in germany and they are to this day
    the the dharma teachers of intersign that
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    was they left here i think two thousand i'm
    not totally sure 90 i ordained in february
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    98 i think they might have left 99 and i think
    worldwide it's the only one that at least
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    that stayed longer but that was a big thing
    for thai at that time so tai is sort of developing
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    the practices here in the community context
    and setting of plan village and then really
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    inviting everyone to experiment back in their
    home towns and cities and i think the 1990s
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    was also a period when a lot of sanghas started
    all over europe and all over the u.s so it
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    was around this time that tai was teaching
    the heart of the buddha's teachings so from
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    his research the elements that he felt were
    the most important for all his students to
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    understand and this remains on amazon one
    of the best-selling buddhist books in in the
  • 79:32 - 79:36
    english language
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    and it was around this time we have the book
    uh touching peace the art of mindful living
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    in community the book of the poems the gatters
    that you see posted around in the bathrooms
  • 79:45 - 79:52
    and the bedrooms these are translated from
    the tradition and then really applied here
  • 79:52 - 80:02
    in plum village this book is called present
    moment wonderful moment and there's a new
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    edition of that out now and thai's kind of
    number one uh book next to the miracle of
  • 80:11 - 80:15
    mindfulness peace is every step also came
    out at this time so there was really with
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    the presence of the community around tai he's
    really exploring what would a community of
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    peace look like and what would practices of
    peace look like
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    so i think we're halfway through the books
    we wish we would have more time i have two
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    more sofas of people i would love just to
    to bring up here and i hope we can get through
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    everyone by dinner so thank you so much to
    our sisters lay and monastic from the 1990s
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    thank you so much and i would like thank you
    yes flowers and gratitude for you all being
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    here thank you so i would like to invite lisa
    renika and jesse to come up so we will fast
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    forward a little bit uh through the 2000s
    [Music] and we will look at some of the ways
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    that thai's engagement and socially engaged
    buddhism applied buddhism has expressed itself
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    we will be cozy on the sofa this is an intimate
    sisterhood sofa
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    maybe we can listen to a sound of the bell
    to refresh our hearts and our breathing and
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    arrive into this precious moment
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    [Music]
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    so before this panel started i said it will
    be a challenge with the time you'll have at
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    least three minutes maybe four or five but
    i think we're down to three so
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    um lisa you are from jerusalem and you first
    encountered tai i'd i'm not sure whether it
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    was when he came to israel um but if you would
    like to share a bit about his um powerful
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    trip to israel in i believe 1997 and the impact
    that had
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    thank you dear tai dear sangha it was remarkable
    1997 he must have touched thousands of people
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    in throughout israel we had a five-day retreat
    silent retreat that was really incredible
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    to have a thousand silent jews for five days
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    and as a result of his visit oh my goodness
    dozens of sanghas sprang out sprung up all
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    over all over israel and practice very dedicated
    practices started all over the country that
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    was 1997 and at the time i was a war correspondent
    for the boston globe working in jerusalem
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    and i had covered many suicide bombings and
    months before they arrived one of the suicide
  • 82:50 - 82:55
    bombings ended up with me feeling incredible
    love for this suicide bomber and i didn't
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    understand why and when i met tai and sister
    chen kong sister chen kang explained to me
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    that my heart had discovered its buddha nature
    so that was a revolution in my life and from
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    then on i [Music] i left journalism and i
    became a peace activist and i helped to found
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    a peace academy in a palestinian school in
    in east jerusalem which was a really remarkable
  • 83:22 - 83:29
    experience and and time [Music] and then sister
    luke neem and brother fab lai and a few other
  • 83:29 - 83:38
    monastics came to do a day of mindfulness
    with us in the school and then i saw what
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    teaching really was and i saw how the kids
    who normally turned the classroom upside down
  • 83:41 - 83:47
    or turned upside down themselves in a really
    good way and i realized that's what i want
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    to do i want to i want to work with mindfulness
    with with they worked with all ages it was
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    it was a drastic change from the way the school
    normally was and so i brought a team of palestinian
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    of my students here to a wake up retreat a
    couple of years ago before before the pandemic
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    hit and that was that was it that was so remarkable
    the first thing is palestinians are very much
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    i think like the vietnamese they only want
    their own cooking so they took over the kitchen
  • 84:23 - 84:28
    and they cooked for 500 young people from
    around the globe and they were received with
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    such warmth um the monastics were so lovely
    they they set up our dinner underneath the
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    trees the thai planted on upper hamlet and
    they had the musicians playing classical music
  • 84:36 - 84:40
    and we ate maklouba it's called upside down
    we ate it in silence listening to this music
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    and it was it was this massive prayer for
    palestine and for everybody and then at the
  • 84:46 - 84:50
    end of the wake up retreat our palestinian
    youngsters uh were gonna dance their their
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    debka their their national dance but none
    of them could dance you know so they stood
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    there and they heard the music and they had
    the rhythm in them but they couldn't they
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    couldn't quite get the steps out and so 500
    young people from around the globe rushed
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    the stage and jumped up and down shouting
    free free palestine free we you know we we
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    can't change the world but we can change the
    world but we can dance for you thank you lisa
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    for this beautiful testimony and tai um as
    some of you may know in 2003 hosted an incredible
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    encounter with people from both palestine
    and from israel practicing deeply together
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    for two weeks first separately and then after
    about a week or ten days of practice creating
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    moments for the groups um to be able to speak
    to one another of their own suffering and
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    i think a lot of the sort of interventions
    that tai has made at the international level
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    around how dialogue is possible between warring
    parties comes from tai's work of compassion
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    with the israelis and palestinians and lisa's
    continuing to work to bring more palestinians
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    here every year and also coming this summer
    so this is one way in which thai's peace work
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    uh is continuing and we're very happy to support
    you in that lisa thank you so much thank you
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    so dear renika you would like to start about
    your share your journey um which i guess both
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    your personal journey and then how your own
    practice has expressed itself in engaged uh
  • 86:23 - 86:27
    action within the sangha and beyond thank
    you um the thai de beloved community um [Music]
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    so this is a journey really that um started
    with both of us so it's really a journey of
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    um both of our beginning of what i'm going
    to say and it started at plum village 2004
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    and actually i remember the conflict resolution
    that happened and 2004 was like an exploration
  • 86:42 - 86:49
    to oh meditation yes i've heard of meditation
    it's it's part of my culture but i'm not quite
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    sure what that means because it was kind of
    lost because i was i grew up in england and
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    there was not a lot of meditation going on
    there and the things that i did understand
  • 87:03 - 87:07
    was um was kind of a bit mystic so i didn't
    really understand any of it so then i went
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    in search for what meditation was and it's
    what brought me to plum village and um on
  • 87:14 - 87:19
    that year i also um recognized that there
    wasn't many teachers that were not like from
  • 87:19 - 87:28
    the east in the west and so that was kind
    of my personal journey really to kind of explore
  • 87:28 - 87:34
    that side of practice and take that home really
    did speak to me in many ways um and so did
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    a lot of the monastics and one of the monastics
    i'd like to mention is sister jewell kyra
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    jewel she's now deroged and she's doing a
    lot of the practice and teachings out in the
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    uh us and she was kind of like a mentor to
    me in a way that she really uh
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    she kind of she had an eye on on on people
    like me let's put it this way and she asked
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    she invited me to kind of speak about my practice
    and my trainings one of the five mindfulness
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    trainings in the uk and it's not something
    i do it's this is really not me i do not do
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    big presentations i'm pretty shy but it was
    it was an opportunity to recognize that this
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    wasn't just me speaking it was for my ancestors
    and for the future generations like me who
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    don't have access to this practice
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    so that was my vision back in 2004 three and
    four and um there was many barriers really
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    i mean i'm going to go and talk about the
    heart of london sanger is that okay okay well
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    i'll just quickly say that um natasha was
    part of asanga at in london heart of london
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    at heart of london sanger known as natasha
    then and we're very excited that she was going
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    to become a monastic and we've we bid her
    farewell and here she is and um part of that
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    entering the sangha in london was not diverse
    believe it or not even though london is a
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    very diverse city it wasn't very diverse at
    all and it didn't feel like um a home it wasn't
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    a home for me and one of the dharma seals
    as we've heard is i am home i have arrived
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    and so i really wanted to create that in the
    sangha so it took um quite a lot of efforts
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    and a lot of stops and starts and i i found
    a friend that was able to do that with me
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    so i'm going to pass it on to jesse if we've
    run it out of time
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    thank you yeah um we met at that retreat in
    2004 here and actually at that retreat was
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    one of the retreats where palestinians and
    israelis are invited to come and practice
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    together and i remember i knew nothing about
    plum village and i saw that happening and
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    i thought ah okay this is what i want i want
    something that's engaged with the world that
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    can give me a path and yes we met here and
    um i think that um something that happened
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    for me is that i had enough for various causes
    and conditions i had just enough awareness
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    to realize what it what a challenge it would
    be um to be in the sangha um as such a minority
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    in that environment and um and me and renika
    just clicked and we became very good friends
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    and um she has built the colours of compassion
    sanger in in the uk and in the in the heart
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    of london to really make a home and it's been
    a long journey where we we had many times
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    of coming together not just us but us and
    others slowly slowly slowing in organically
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    to build friendships and and to um build both
    awareness um with the with the white people
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    in the sangha and just to slowly build that
    and i know we haven't got time to tell the
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    whole story so i'm not going to go into detail
    but i think that um i really want to honor
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    you because you've done something that i haven't
    seen anywhere else i don't know if it's happening
  • 91:21 - 91:29
    anywhere else but so far i haven't seen in
    this tradition in europe which is to build
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    that home where people can um just come and
    find their solidity to be part of this sangha
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    in europe yeah
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    veronica would you like to share a little
    bit about the joy of creating the colours
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    of compassion sangha
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    joy and colours of compassion are synonymous
    because um we practice in the um spirit of
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    honoring our ancestors and if you have together
    we are one you'll book you'll see that um
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    in that book there's many stories of people
    um who are not white sharing their stories
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    of um healing from the hurts of of the oppression
    of the racial oppressions and um you know
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    this is 52 of the population we're talking
    about so it's it's it was really honorable
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    to know that things that we could have voices
    we could have that voice and also practice
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    in the spirit of honoring and respecting our
    own root tradition alongside this tradition
  • 92:23 - 92:28
    and it had many meanings and it's very eclectic
    it's not just one homogenous group so we have
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    very many cultures and richness and times
    of celebrating our own practices alongside
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    thai's practices so it's been very joyful
    to have the retreats that we did have in the
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    uk led by um kyra jewell and we had three
    of those it was filled out and i do believe
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    that when the first um bipod poc retreat happened
    um there was that was filled out to about
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    500 people um in the u.s and it was all um
    approved i guess by tai he he really supported
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    this practice he supported these um retreats
    he saw the um the amount of um healing that
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    was taking place yeah thank you so much renika
    jesse and lisa so we hope that uh this very
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    brief testimony um can also inspire many of
    us in our local sanghas to really see how
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    we can support and empower the non-white members
    in our sangers to have safe spaces uh to really
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    ask how we can be of support how we can trust
    and interest so that those spaces can take
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    place and we hope here in plum village to
    be able to create more such spaces for people
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    of color so that we really have the representation
    the diversity that is reflective of the world
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    and so all of us can also and especially those
    of us who have been socialized as white or
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    present as white that we have a chance also
    to look deeply and to really practice non-discrimination
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    compassion and generosity from a real place
    of deep understanding [Music] of racial inequity
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    in the world and that's part of our path as
    thai students and for me when we speak about
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    this as a community i feel we're really honoring
    the legacy of thai's friendship with dr martin
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    luther king so if we see ourselves as thai
    student this is also part of our work to do
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    and to support so thank you so much to our
    wonderful sofa here present and uh we heard
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    the we heard the dinner bell but if uh if
    you would like to return to your seats i would
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    just like to introduce to you uli annika and
    dorote if you're still here dojote
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    yes please just come up briefly and i would
    just like to to introduce you we wanted to
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    show also the future of plum village and many
    of the directions where thai's work is going
  • 94:59 - 95:04
    so we have anika representing the international
    wake up community dojote representing our
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    happy farms which are organic vegetable farms
    that thai insisted we should start developing
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    here in plum village and uli from germany
    representing our earth holder community uh
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    and tai's teachings to bring uh love and peace
    and healing to the earth so i wonder if i
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    can give you each one minute with the microphone
    and then we promise we'll go and serve our
  • 95:29 - 95:30
    dinner so annika a few lines
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    um dear tadia sanger one minute well maybe
    what i can say is that
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    i'm probably not representing wake up i can
    only i'm happy to coordinate for wake up and
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    to see that it's growing and flourishing that
    the pandemic has given rise to even more
  • 95:49 - 96:02
    the river growing or becoming even stronger
    and wake up sanghas all over the world opening
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    their doors to just everyone instead of just
    functioning locally
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    i've seen lian in many online meetings who
    is now he's sitting here as an aspirant and
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    is so engaged also with extinction rebellion
    and i think showing very beautifully the the
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    spirit of wake up of young people who are
    happy to find belonging in a uh and empowerment
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    through mindfulness through the practice um
    yeah who find a home in the practice as well
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    as like-minded people who want to work and
    engage for a better world and i'm deeply grateful
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    to tai and the sangha for having given rise
    to that and it's an honor to support this
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    movement and i'm sad to grow out of it soon
    [Laughter] [Music] yes thank you thank you
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    annika so ty started the wake up movement
    in 2008 in a summer retreat i wonder was anyone
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    here in that summer retreat in that moment
    so you may remember this funny moment when
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    tai insisted that some of us stand up and
    announce the creation of young buddhists and
  • 97:20 - 97:28
    non-buddhists for a healthy and compassionate
    society and i had to say this so many times
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    and then i had to read out this announcement
    and say the ybhcs which doesn't have the same
  • 97:32 - 97:39
    ring to it as the ymca so so then we came
    up with the phrase the wake up movement and
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    tai was inspired to do this as we heard from
    sister dinimum yesterday because tai had been
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    working with young people since the beginning
    of his career as a monk and he knew that young
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    people can practice meditation young people
    can practice mindfulness and that the aspiration
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    of young people to be of service in the world
    when supported by a mindfulness practice can
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    really help young people serve as a community
    as a collective and he did that in vietnam
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    with the school of youth for social service
    and was experimenting with the wake up movement
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    here in the west to see how young people can
    practice together to be seeds of change in
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    the world so thank you anikaf and we have
    also jazz in the upper hamlet who on a volunteer
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    basis have been supporting this incredible
    network of young people and we're so grateful
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    to you annika for that and for doherty so
    a couple of years after starting the wake
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    up movement tai wanted to see how we can have
    more young people in plum village and with
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    the brothers he had the idea to create vegetable
    farms so that we can really come and have
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    time healing with the earth our hands in the
    soil nurturing the seeds in the land so dojote
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    one minute about the happy farms thank you
    sister um dear hall um i don't know really
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    how to start um of course plum village doesn't
    wait the happy farm to manifest to grow food
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    and to garden but i think we are also helping
    with the happy farm the monastic community
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    who doesn't have the time as a gardener to
    spend so much time in the garden so that's
  • 99:36 - 99:44
    also one of the aspects of the happy farm
    who started in her parliament in 2012 and
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    i did my first retreat in 2013 and i fall
    in love with the practice and with the project
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    of the happy farm i think at that time i see
    my first eggplant plant aubergine plant and
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    i was so amazed and so amazed about yeah what
    what they share about this project is not
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    obviously only about growing food but it's
    also um yeah the linked with all the the metaphor
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    that we can find in thai stitching uh with
    the seeds you know is um yeah growing um nourishing
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    ourselves and all yeah all the metaphors about
    nature that we can find uh on his teaching
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    we try to um to be with those teaching in
    the garden i often uh tell myself that the
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    the happy happy farm is my meditation hall
    because sometimes i miss uh some of the other
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    activity with the sangha because yeah may
    and june are really um busy at the garden
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    and i i really enjoy just knowing that the
    song i also is practicing and i'm i'm practicing
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    um in the happy farm yeah it's also a place
    for transmitting and to inspired of um yeah
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    from where come the food and maybe we can
    all start growing our own food in any scale
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    and yeah that's for me so uh important and
    inspiring thank you thank you and what i i
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    find fascinating is how tai was still experimenting
    with what a healthy community looks like and
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    a healthy community grows its own vegetables
    in mindfulness and a healthy community is
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    a place where young people can come and touch
    peace and touch meaning and i feel also that
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    with the wake up movement and the happy farm
    thai was also seeing what he can offer the
  • 101:49 - 101:56
    young generation who will face so many challenges
    ahead in the coming decades what are the skills
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    the the physical skills but also the inner
    resilience and learnings that the young generations
  • 102:05 - 102:12
    will need to survive the challenges ahead
    so i feel it's a great gift that we're experimenting
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    with in the wake up movement and with our
    happy farms so thank you both and uli this
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    is connected also to thai's teachings on the
    earth and thai gave so many teachings on the
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    earth i have we'll just show some of the books
    that we may recognize the first one was called
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    the world we have where tai really started
    raising the alarm bell he described the climate
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    crisis as a bell of mindfulness in this book
    and then tai went further and said we need
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    to fall in love with the earth and some of
    us may remember these teachings in 2011 2012
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    and they became the book love letters to the
    earth and then more recently and the teachings
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    that i gave to young people have become this
    book zen and the art of saving the planet
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    where we also have all of thai's teachings
    on engaged action and ecology and thai's vision
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    for how the young generation can protect our
    world so ali what would you like to share
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    about the earth holder community
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    first i want to share that i'm reading this
    book you mentioned the last and it's not only
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    from tai it's also from sister to dedication
    she writes many interesting parts in this
  • 103:58 - 103:59
    book it's very inspiring
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    one motivation to leave my beloved teacher
    in the japanese center edition was that i
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    could not uh combine this experience so like
    this like this like this i could not combine
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    this meditation practice with my political
    activism i could not share it with my family
  • 104:19 - 104:26
    and i could not share it with my students
    in the university and i was a political activist
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    since i started with my studies but i was
    motivated by hate by fear and [Music]
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    also filled with despair
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    and to encounter ties teachings about activism
    in a different kind it inspired me a lot being
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    active out of love being active and at the
    same time caring for yourself being active
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    and not opposing someone not uh
  • 105:12 - 105:23
    say you are guilty and i'm right no we are
    in the same boat and the ones who make the
  • 105:23 - 105:36
    coal mines in australia i'm fighting they
    are in me and this is uh the poem
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    of thai call me by my true names is the poem
    for every activist you have no opponent the
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    opponent is in your heart and this is a very
    very deep teaching and i'm so grateful to
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    have this teacher and to have a community
    that shares this concern for mother earth
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    thank you thank you uli so if you haven't
    yet heard about
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    the earth holder sangha or the gardian de
    la terre here in france they have
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    a wonderful website full of resources and
    we're just starting in the last couple of
  • 107:56 - 108:08
    years to develop earth holder groups here
    on in europe and there are many already in
  • 108:08 - 108:36
    america and they do a lot of online activities
    which are wonderful to join discussions presentations
  • 108:36 - 108:58
    and study study groups and it's a wonderful
    way to express our love for the earth as tai
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    has encouraged us to do
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    so voila we arrive somewhere through some
    kind of arc we've had a beautiful uh journey
  • 109:18 - 109:23
    and we arrive to activism engagement and love
    for the earth thank you for being up here
  • 109:23 - 109:30
    our final cushion sofa group you can return
    to your seats thank you so much and thank
  • 109:30 - 110:21
    you everyone for your patience and generous
    listening we've had a journey along the river
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    of
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    the sangha and
    i hope you have felt the spirit of community
  • 111:34 - 112:24
    that shines through the people that really
    make the sangha and of course there are so
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    many ways to still tell the story of plum
    village maybe as many people as have experienced
  • 113:12 - 113:31
    plum village that's how many stories there
    are so we're just presenting a brief glimpse
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    of flavor of the arc of growth and especially
    as told by those who've practiced here in
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    the lower hamlet so we will enjoy listening
    to three sounds of
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    the bell to close our session thank you so
    much we can enjoy feeling feeling connected
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    to one another and feeling enriched by everything
    we've heard
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    as
    we enjoy these sounds of the bell
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    you
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40 Years of Life in Plum Village | Panel Sharing from Residents and Dharma Teachers | 08 06 2022
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