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Dialogue: 0,0:00:00.13,0:00:03.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hello everybody
Dialogue: 0,0:00:03.07,0:00:10.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you so much for being here on what I\Nhope is a very lazy day or as lazy as possible
Dialogue: 0,0:00:10.28,0:00:12.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,day for us.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:12.69,0:00:21.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We're very happy to be able to share with\Nyou as a community a little bit chat - show style
Dialogue: 0,0:00:21.07,0:00:24.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:00:24.30,0:00:31.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for what we hope will be a relaxed and enjoyable\Nsession really touching the spirit of community
Dialogue: 0,0:00:31.19,0:00:40.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and many of our collective memories with our\Nteacher.
Dialogue: 0,0:00:40.60,0:00:46.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We are aware that many of us have arrived\Nin plum village at all sorts of different
Dialogue: 0,0:00:46.78,0:00:55.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,times and today we will be hearing from some\Nof us who arrived in the early 1980s, in the
Dialogue: 0,0:00:55.78,0:01:02.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,1990s.\NAnd we also want to look forward to some of
Dialogue: 0,0:01:02.38,0:01:10.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the life spirit of the sangha currently active\Nand looking forward maybe to the next decade
Dialogue: 0,0:01:10.06,0:01:17.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or two as a beloved community.\NSo we hope that by hearing voices from different
Dialogue: 0,0:01:17.58,0:01:23.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sangha members we will really see the river\Nthat Sister Dinh Nghiem was talking about
Dialogue: 0,0:01:23.18,0:01:34.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in her Dharma talk yesterday and we will also\Nget a sense of the spirit of community.
Dialogue: 0,0:01:34.43,0:01:42.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think Plum Village has always been made\Nof whoever is here and i think Thay's teachings
Dialogue: 0,0:01:42.32,0:01:49.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have also been made from whoever is here.\NThay didn't create his teachings in a vacuum
Dialogue: 0,0:01:49.21,0:01:57.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but in relationship with his community and\NThay's teachings have also evolved over time
Dialogue: 0,0:01:57.86,0:02:05.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and Plum Village has evolved the atmosphere\Nhas evolved. So today we will try to hear
Dialogue: 0,0:02:05.90,0:02:12.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a little bit what some of those earlier chapters\Nof plum village might have been like and to
Dialogue: 0,0:02:12.04,0:02:14.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,see that evolution.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:14.49,0:02:24.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I brought with me a very very big bag\Nof Thay's books and this is not even a quarter
Dialogue: 0,0:02:24.85,0:02:32.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of them. But I hope from time to time to show\Nyou a book so you can start to see a bit how
Dialogue: 0,0:02:32.16,0:02:39.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thay's teachings evolved over time and how\Nhis insights and experiences in community
Dialogue: 0,0:02:39.89,0:02:45.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and largely here in Plum Village shaped his\Nteachings and what he was writing about at
Dialogue: 0,0:02:45.64,0:02:55.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the time.
Dialogue: 0,0:02:55.10,0:03:00.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have a wonderful truck. We have a chance\Nto contemplate the compost that becomes the flowers
Dialogue: 0,0:03:00.42,0:03:05.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:03:05.27,0:03:14.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In Sister Dinh Nghiem's talk she mentioned\Nthe teachings of master Tang Hoi and she was
Dialogue: 0,0:03:14.00,0:03:19.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,saying that when Thay was in Paris he had\Na chance to do research in the library there
Dialogue: 0,0:03:19.92,0:03:26.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to discover the first zen teacher who came\Nfrom Vietnam and brought zen buddhism to China
Dialogue: 0,0:03:26.39,0:03:30.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so I just wanted to give one advertisement\Nfor this book if you are interested in the
Dialogue: 0,0:03:30.41,0:03:37.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,roots of our tradition, it's really wonderful\Nto understand how deep our roots go. Book
Dialogue: 0,0:03:37.62,0:03:44.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,number one. I think I'm going to need a big\Npile.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:44.63,0:03:57.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The title is Master Tang Hoi - first zen teacher\Nin Vietnam and China.
Dialogue: 0,0:03:57.60,0:04:03.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And for those of you who haven't read about\NThay's years of activism and engagement in
Dialogue: 0,0:04:03.48,0:04:08.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the 1960s when Sister Dinh was sharing about\Nhow much Thay did in such a short period of
Dialogue: 0,0:04:08.57,0:04:15.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,time a lot of that is recorded in Thay's journals\NFragrant Palm Leaves. For many of us I think
Dialogue: 0,0:04:15.88,0:04:23.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's our favorite book by Thay, very personal\Nso you can discover more in this book, including
Dialogue: 0,0:04:23.33,0:04:30.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some very powerful experiences and moments\Nof awakening
Dialogue: 0,0:04:30.18,0:04:34.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when Thay was in the U.S. in the early 1960s.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:34.10,0:04:42.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Okay final one. Sister Dinh Nghiem also mentioned: "Zen Keys", "Zen Keys".
Dialogue: 0,0:04:42.42,0:04:45.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And in French, "Cles pour le Zen".
Dialogue: 0,0:04:45.66,0:04:53.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Which was actually the first book published\Nby Thay here in the west.
Dialogue: 0,0:04:53.11,0:04:58.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it was published first in French and then\Nin English and it's very interesting because
Dialogue: 0,0:04:58.43,0:05:04.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thay was trying to express how his kind of\Nzen, the zen from our tradition in Vietnam
Dialogue: 0,0:05:04.61,0:05:10.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was different from other flavors of Zen from\NJapan or other countries. So this is a very
Dialogue: 0,0:05:10.85,0:05:19.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,early attempt of Thay to describe the practices\Nhe was seeking to develop and offer in here in the West.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:19.28,0:05:23.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:05:23.15,0:05:32.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, that's it for the books for now.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:32.82,0:05:39.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would like to invite our bell master Sister TrueSound, Sister Khuong Am, to invite three sounds of the bell
Dialogue: 0,0:05:39.14,0:05:58.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then we will welcome our first guests to the sofa who arrived here in 1983.
Dialogue: 0,0:05:58.49,0:06:13.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Bell]
Dialogue: 0,0:06:13.36,0:06:28.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Bell]
Dialogue: 0,0:06:28.23,0:06:43.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Bell]
Dialogue: 0,0:06:43.10,0:07:13.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We'd like to invite Jean-Pierre and Co Linh Tue\Nto come up and sit on the wonderful rustic sofa.
Dialogue: 0,0:07:13.53,0:07:23.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,
Dialogue: 0,0:07:23.61,0:07:31.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Before we start to hear some different stories
Dialogue: 0,0:07:31.22,0:07:36.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,maybe Jean-Pierre and Co Linh Tue, would you\Nlike to lead us in one of the first songs
Dialogue: 0,0:07:36.22,0:07:51.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that you remember singing here in the sangha\Nwhen you arrived?
Dialogue: 0,0:07:51.55,0:08:03.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Dear sister. During that era, there were only poems because for a while, it was a haven for refugees.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:03.07,0:08:14.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thay taught in Vietnamese to the refugees. So there were only childhood poems.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:14.58,0:08:26.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So actually, at that time there weren't any Plum Village songs yet. He taught in Vietnamese to the children.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:26.10,0:08:27.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,okay
Dialogue: 0,0:08:27.10,0:08:44.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So we will listen to a song.
Dialogue: 0,0:08:44.90,0:09:22.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We will sing together? But I don't know full songs ... just the start [singing in Vietnamese] ... I don't remember anymore
Dialogue: 0,0:09:22.30,0:09:41.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Singing in Vietnamese]
Dialogue: 0,0:09:41.00,0:09:59.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Singing in Vietnamese]
Dialogue: 0,0:09:59.70,0:10:18.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Singing in Vietnamese] ... That's enough
Dialogue: 0,0:10:18.40,0:10:27.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Very nice very nice. So in Plum Village since\Nthe very beginning there was music and at
Dialogue: 0,0:10:27.30,0:10:32.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,first songs from Vietnam would be\Nsung around Plum Village because actually
Dialogue: 0,0:10:32.90,0:10:40.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at the beginning Plum Village was really a\Ncommunity in exile not only Thay in exile
Dialogue: 0,0:10:40.57,0:10:50.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but also sister Chan Khong other monastics\Nwho had fled Vietnam and also other refugees
Dialogue: 0,0:10:50.82,0:11:01.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so many people who found themselves exiled\Nand ended up here in France started visiting
Dialogue: 0,0:11:01.18,0:11:08.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thay at the center outside Paris and then\Nwhen that as Sister Dinh Nghiem explained yesterday
Dialogue: 0,0:11:08.27,0:11:14.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when that center became too small then they\Nfound the land here in the southwest of France
Dialogue: 0,0:11:14.53,0:11:19.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where the land was much more affordable.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:19.71,0:11:27.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And in the summers Thay was offering not just\Na place of spiritual refuge but also a place
Dialogue: 0,0:11:27.05,0:11:35.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of cultural refuge where the children could\Nlearn Vietnamese and how to write, speak and
Dialogue: 0,0:11:35.10,0:11:40.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sing in Vietnamese. Where everyone could enjoy Vietnamese food and really have a sense of home away from home.
Dialogue: 0,0:11:40.86,0:11:49.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So maybe we can enjoy one sound of the bell and we try to
Dialogue: 0,0:11:49.22,0:12:01.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,settle so we can continue. We're sorry that\Nthe announcement wasn't made. Our apologies
Dialogue: 0,0:12:01.50,0:12:05.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Bell]
Dialogue: 0,0:12:34.46,0:12:37.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So, dear Jean-Pierre, perhaps we will start with you.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:38.27,0:12:43.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Can you say a little about how you landed in this part
Dialogue: 0,0:12:43.26,0:12:46.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the Southwest of France into a community in exile?
Dialogue: 0,0:12:47.27,0:12:48.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It wasn't really that common.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:48.27,0:12:50.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And what did you find when you arrived?
Dialogue: 0,0:12:50.27,0:12:55.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That went very well.
Dialogue: 0,0:12:55.26,0:13:02.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I knew about Plum Village thanks to the Vietnamese community.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:02.31,0:13:13.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,With young people my age, students in Lyon.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:13.27,0:13:21.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Perhaps 5, 6 years before I arrived here
Dialogue: 0,0:13:23.25,0:13:31.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I found myself taking part in cultural festivals
Dialogue: 0,0:13:32.26,0:13:37.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with only "boat people". There you go.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:39.26,0:13:49.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It wasn't a big deal. I was the only one with a car. So it was very practical for transporting things,
Dialogue: 0,0:13:49.56,0:13:52.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,clothes, people ...
Dialogue: 0,0:13:52.13,0:13:53.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the welcoming centers.
Dialogue: 0,0:13:55.53,0:13:59.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And one day a friend said to me:
Dialogue: 0,0:13:59.50,0:14:02.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,"Jean-Pierre, would you like to meet a Vietnamese Zen master?"
Dialogue: 0,0:14:04.41,0:14:09.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I said, "Yes, great! I am very interested!"
Dialogue: 0,0:14:09.58,0:14:16.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I had the idea that I would find a relatively old man,
Dialogue: 0,0:14:16.63,0:14:23.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with a white beard, and hair like what you find in Chinese films.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:28.64,0:14:38.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I came here from Cantal, which is about 180km from here.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:39.02,0:14:45.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I found Loubes Bernac and Meyrac.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:45.03,0:14:50.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The roads were tiny, even smaller than now.
Dialogue: 0,0:14:54.06,0:15:06.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When I arrived, I first found a couple who lived in that first house there.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:06.00,0:15:08.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So I met the man.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:08.51,0:15:12.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He said to me, "But no. Plum Village is actually just there."
Dialogue: 0,0:15:12.51,0:15:18.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But it wasn't Plum Village yet. It wasn't called that yet.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:18.52,0:15:22.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He told me, "It's there. The Vietnamese people. They're somewhere at the back there."
Dialogue: 0,0:15:22.97,0:15:30.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I came upon the building which is now the small meditation hall.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:30.53,0:15:38.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I saw a Vietnamese lady who came out to meet me.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:39.28,0:15:50.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When I said, "I am Jean-Pierre". She said, "Oh, you are Jean-Pierre, who welcomes the boat people!"
Dialogue: 0,0:15:50.00,0:15:57.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was very surprised, because I just arrived like that.
Dialogue: 0,0:15:57.01,0:16:06.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No phone call, just an address, not telling anyone.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:06.92,0:16:13.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I didn't know it, but the person who greeted me was Sister Chan Khong
Dialogue: 0,0:16:14.06,0:16:19.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She wasn't a nun yet, but it was already her name as a member of the Order of Inter-being
Dialogue: 0,0:16:19.07,0:16:23.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So that's how it all started.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:23.45,0:16:42.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the evening, I arrived in the afternoon, in the evening she said to me "Jean-Pierre, for the practice, you observe the others and imitate them."
Dialogue: 0,0:16:42.48,0:16:47.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was very simple. And everything was in Vietnamese
Dialogue: 0,0:16:48.01,0:16:55.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There were no earphones, or microphone, or even someone to translate directly in my ear.
Dialogue: 0,0:16:55.10,0:17:03.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes, I got used to that being in the Vietnamese community for 5, 6 years. No one translates.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:03.87,0:17:10.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I tried to understand by observing the movements. But no one translated for me.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:10.84,0:17:17.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But that suited me well, because I could sit somewhere, stay quietly.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:17.33,0:17:23.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Someone would offer me a drink, something to eat. Everything went very well.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:23.85,0:17:34.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you Jean-Pierre. Wonderful. And Co Linh Tue, how was it for you when you arrived here?
Dialogue: 0,0:17:34.47,0:17:38.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The same year, but perhaps a different approach?
Dialogue: 0,0:17:38.79,0:17:53.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I met Jean-Pierre the same year. I was a student in a preparatory course to become a nurse.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:53.24,0:17:56.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I boarded in a small room with a pastor.
Dialogue: 0,0:17:56.40,0:18:01.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Between school and my room,
Dialogue: 0,0:18:01.41,0:18:06.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there was a small pagoda,
Dialogue: 0,0:18:06.10,0:18:11.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or more of an apartment. The venerable Nhu Tuan was there with Sister Trung Chinh.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:11.13,0:18:22.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I went there every day to have dinner, because the pastor didn't want me to cook in the room.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:22.03,0:18:24.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And to recite a sutra with them.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:24.85,0:18:29.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,One day Ven. Nhu Tuan said to me, "Do you want to come first in your class?"
Dialogue: 0,0:18:29.43,0:18:34.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I said, "Of course!" "Then come with me", and she brought me here.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:34.15,0:18:41.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was amazed! I was born in Saigon, a cosmopolitan. I didn't know about the country side.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:41.65,0:18:49.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then I left Saigon when I was 14 and went to Lausanne, which is also quite a large city.
Dialogue: 0,0:18:49.33,0:18:53.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it was the first time I discover the country side. I loved it!
Dialogue: 0,0:18:53.58,0:19:01.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I discovered the fields, sunflowers, the crowing of roosters...
Dialogue: 0,0:19:01.63,0:19:05.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And rice soup with peas. I haven't eaten that before!
Dialogue: 0,0:19:05.97,0:19:14.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And especially Thay. When I passed him, it was as if an electric current passed through me.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:14.32,0:19:25.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He wasn't dressed as he did after receiving monastic students. He was just in jeans and a traditional short robe.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:25.90,0:19:28.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just to check we have this in translation - what was Thay wearing?
Dialogue: 0,0:19:30.15,0:19:35.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When I passed him, he was coming from the Grange and I was near the bamboos.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:36.28,0:19:42.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There were just a few bamboos. Lots of mud. There weren't trees and flowers then like now.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:42.87,0:19:55.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thay walked slowly, with jeans and his boots, and just a short robe - what monastics wear on the inside.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:55.30,0:19:59.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I saw and I thought - oh, it's him, it's him.
Dialogue: 0,0:19:59.39,0:20:11.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then I came back 2, 3 times a year. It became my spiritual family. I came to see Thay, for the community, and for being in the country side.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:11.61,0:20:17.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Pretty soon you started to live here, from which year?
Dialogue: 0,0:20:17.90,0:20:28.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Afterwards, I came to live here with Thay for 3 years.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:28.75,0:20:34.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,From 1986 to 1989.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:34.27,0:20:40.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then one more time from 1996 to 1999.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:40.72,0:20:46.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then the last time in 2013 Thay asked me to become a monastic.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:46.51,0:20:56.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He insisted, "Oh I am getting old. You have to taste the monastic life."
Dialogue: 0,0:20:57.02,0:20:58.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well. I obeyed.
Dialogue: 0,0:20:58.02,0:21:02.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A good student. Thank you
Dialogue: 0,0:21:02.11,0:21:07.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,During that era, there was a lot of simplicity and not much money.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:07.45,0:21:16.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The buildings were very simple and apparently there wasn't even heating. Is that true?
Dialogue: 0,0:21:16.10,0:21:29.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For me, I don't know. I only came in Summer. No, there was no heating. Just the wood oven in the kitchen, that was it.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:29.37,0:21:33.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Winter was freezing.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:33.01,0:21:39.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There weren't even rooms.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:39.36,0:21:49.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The rooms were just, well, down there there's a building.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:49.93,0:21:54.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's an ancient building for drying tobacco.
Dialogue: 0,0:21:54.39,0:22:03.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just a few separation walls, four bricks and a plank for a bed.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:03.04,0:22:10.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There were no windows or necessarily doors. That was all.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:13.17,0:22:22.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To imagine the Village at the start, you look at all that's here now, and you take out everything.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:22.50,0:22:24.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You take out everything.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:24.59,0:22:28.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you keep only the places with stones.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:28.28,0:22:37.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can still see the stones and you keep only those places.And whatever is inside, you also take them all out.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:37.32,0:22:47.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So my question is - what continued to draw you here if it was so simple and so humble here?
Dialogue: 0,0:22:47.17,0:22:52.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The food.
Dialogue: 0,0:22:56.13,0:23:02.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For me, it's more about "here".
Dialogue: 0,0:23:06.54,0:23:14.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's very simple for me - what brought me back here was the Vietnamese community
Dialogue: 0,0:23:18.27,0:23:24.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Actually the meditation would not have brought me back here.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:24.78,0:23:32.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The morning after I arrived, Thay came to see me.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:32.83,0:23:42.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There were a few moments. Thay came to see me. We weren't not introduced to each other yet. He came up behind me,
Dialogue: 0,0:23:42.34,0:23:47.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He put his hand on my back and pushed me towards the children.
Dialogue: 0,0:23:47.13,0:23:51.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And he said to me, "Jean Pierre, learn to sing the songs in Vietnamese with the children."
Dialogue: 0,0:23:51.23,0:23:57.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Like Linh Tue said, "I obeyed".
Dialogue: 0,0:23:57.60,0:24:08.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The last day I was here, he asked me to sit down with him in front of the plum trees. The trees were already there by the road.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:08.84,0:24:13.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He asked me, "What do you think about my village?"
Dialogue: 0,0:24:13.10,0:24:21.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I said, "I think the people here need it.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:21.13,0:24:23.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you will have many people."
Dialogue: 0,0:24:23.42,0:24:29.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So what made me come back was that.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:29.26,0:24:36.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As Linh Tue said, Thay did not look like a monk.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:36.10,0:24:47.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He wore trousers like everyone else, with boots, and a traditional Vietnamese (monastic) short robe.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:47.79,0:24:58.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That was it. I did not encounter a monk. I encountered a man with a great deal of humanity.
Dialogue: 0,0:24:58.13,0:25:02.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't know how to say it better.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:02.13,0:25:09.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I felt it a very deeply. And of course he is Vietnamese, and that meant a lot to me.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:09.57,0:25:15.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There you go. That was a motor for me - the Vietnamese community.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:15.41,0:25:20.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That was my motor. As for meditation, it was a lot more difficult.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:20.89,0:25:24.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The first week, my back ached.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:24.51,0:25:28.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just five minutes and I felt it was already an hour.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:28.40,0:25:30.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it wasn't great at all.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:30.36,0:25:38.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I observed, yes I observed. But I told myself - impossible, I cannot do that!
Dialogue: 0,0:25:38.10,0:25:45.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So it wasn't something that would have made me come back.
Dialogue: 0,0:25:45.02,0:25:57.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you. The pull of the Vietnamese community, the richness, the friendship, the gentleness, the creativity...
Dialogue: 0,0:25:57.20,0:26:06.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Co Linh Tue, can you tell us a little what a typical day looked like back then? Was the schedule like how it is now?
Dialogue: 0,0:26:06.91,0:26:09.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Not at all.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:14.55,0:26:19.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thay did not want to lose the Vietnamese culture.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:19.65,0:26:26.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There were just Thay, and Sister Chan Khong who was still a lay person.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:26.58,0:26:29.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We called her "Aunty Number 9".
Dialogue: 0,0:26:29.93,0:26:33.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thay and Aunty #9 did everything.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:33.36,0:26:42.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The two of them did 200 turns an hour. Thay taught us how to meditate. He was there for the morning sitting.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:42.64,0:26:50.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He held the stick of a meditation observer and gave us a smack if we fell sleepy. Like in the Japanese tradition.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:50.75,0:26:54.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Let's wait and make sure the translator understood that bit.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:54.56,0:26:58.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Zen stick, for sitting meditation.
Dialogue: 0,0:26:58.80,0:27:07.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then we had breakfast. I'm afraid to say, it wasn't an abundant breakfast like we have now.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:07.81,0:27:15.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We had broken dried bread that Sister Chan Khong asked for at L'Eclerc (supermarket). Out of date.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:15.08,0:27:25.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It wasn't because Thay was poor. But they always, always thought of others.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:25.31,0:27:30.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They sent money to help the writers,
Dialogue: 0,0:27:30.83,0:27:37.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the elite of Vietnam, because for him the writers were the treasures of Vietnamese culture.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:37.54,0:27:44.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Every month we prepared small packets to send to Vietnam.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:44.38,0:27:51.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There was medicine inside so the families could sell them.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:51.20,0:27:54.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To raise the children.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:54.05,0:27:58.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because in general the head of family was imprisoned by the Communist.
Dialogue: 0,0:27:58.91,0:28:04.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So Thay wanted to help, anonymously. They didn't know who was behind it all.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:04.43,0:28:11.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Actually I was still young and so hungry. One day I said, "Thay, I am too hungry."
Dialogue: 0,0:28:11.68,0:28:16.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because there wasn't enough to eat, right?
Dialogue: 0,0:28:16.38,0:28:20.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We lived very very modestly.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:20.56,0:28:29.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There was just one toilet in 1983. Only one shower that went with it. To take a shower one had to get up at 4 in the morning.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:29.03,0:28:37.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But we were very happy to be by Thay's side.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:37.64,0:28:44.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We were filled with happiness, with serenity, with peace. His presence captivated us. His personality.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:44.52,0:28:53.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So that comes back to what you asked before - what was the motivation, the motor that brought us back here.
Dialogue: 0,0:28:53.18,0:29:05.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you. As Linh Tue had shared, Thay and Sr. Chan Khong said it wasn't possible to save everyone in Vietnam.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:05.95,0:29:20.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They chose to focus their energy on the cultural personnels like the writers, philosophers, artists, the intellectuals...
Dialogue: 0,0:29:20.90,0:29:29.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thanks to these small medical packets; because it wasn't possible to directly send money;
Dialogue: 0,0:29:29.26,0:29:38.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but the medicine was "hidden money" because they could sell it for money and buy food for their family.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:38.07,0:29:44.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That sustained the people who were truly the treasure of Vietnamese culture.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:44.07,0:29:56.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was a part of all the activities of the so called social engagement for Vietnam of that time, the small packets of medicine.
Dialogue: 0,0:29:56.67,0:30:06.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes the exile of boat people was very present at the time. There were many deaths on the South China Sea.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:06.60,0:30:12.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thay and Sister Chan Khong rented boats to save those people.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:12.38,0:30:20.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They couldn't continue that work and had to come to France. They purchased Thenac in 1982.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:20.14,0:30:27.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They continued their work in the spirit of saving the Vietnamese culture.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:27.68,0:30:40.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The days unfolded a little like now. In joy, in gaity.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:40.19,0:30:45.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thay wanted us to practice in joy, not in suffering.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:45.27,0:30:50.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Even if there was a great deal of suffering in our depth,
Dialogue: 0,0:30:50.78,0:30:57.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because with the arrival of the Communists, many families including mine were broken.
Dialogue: 0,0:30:57.18,0:31:06.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A lot of loss. Thay and Sister Chan Khong, "Aunty #9", did everything.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:06.99,0:31:15.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thay guided the walking meditation, tea meditation, Dharma sharing...
Dialogue: 0,0:31:15.36,0:31:18.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sister Chan Khong did everything
Dialogue: 0,0:31:18.17,0:31:21.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the transport, cooking, shopping
Dialogue: 0,0:31:21.91,0:31:24.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and even took care of the sick.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:24.76,0:31:32.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When I caught a cold, I said, "Aunty #9, I think I'm sick." She said, "Oh, I will do the spooning massage for you."
Dialogue: 0,0:31:32.25,0:31:36.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She took out the oil and a spoon and did spooning massage for me.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:36.62,0:31:40.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,She did everything! Spoon massage.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:40.22,0:31:55.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Her and Thay did everything. It was only in 1988 that Sr. Chan Khong, then Sr. Chan Duc and Sr. Chan Vi. It was also a surprise for us.
Dialogue: 0,0:31:55.91,0:32:05.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Three of us stayed back. Thay brought them to India. Before leaving they were lay and on returning they were in robes!
Dialogue: 0,0:32:05.33,0:32:15.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Only from that moment on that Thay started to wear the long robe and receive monastic disciples.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:15.42,0:32:31.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We have Shantum here and we will hear from him about the 1988 trip, when Thay started to have monastic disciples.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:31.99,0:32:38.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's such a shame because we don't have 5 hours to be together.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:38.12,0:32:45.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And we will see a few glimpses into several periods of Plum Village history.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:45.02,0:32:51.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To prepare the appetite ... I don't know how to say it in French ...
Dialogue: 0,0:32:51.24,0:32:56.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To have a sense of appetite, for how we can have more conversations.
Dialogue: 0,0:32:56.99,0:33:01.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just to close this chapter
Dialogue: 0,0:33:01.89,0:33:12.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Jean-Pierre, what was it that brought the greatest happiness to Thay? What was his greatest dream at that time, at the start?
Dialogue: 0,0:33:21.01,0:33:26.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hard to say.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:26.39,0:33:32.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If I look back...
Dialogue: 0,0:33:32.68,0:33:35.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If I look at Thay and I see him clearly,
Dialogue: 0,0:33:35.97,0:33:43.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I see that his dream was only for peace to exist.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:43.33,0:33:46.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Deeply
Dialogue: 0,0:33:46.50,0:33:50.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that peace could exist in each of us.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:50.83,0:33:53.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's very clear.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:53.05,0:33:57.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's what he has transmitted to us.
Dialogue: 0,0:33:57.88,0:34:03.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Linh Tue had said that the days passed in joy.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:03.13,0:34:07.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In songs.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:07.41,0:34:14.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Even though the songs of bygone days are not the same as today, but that's nothing.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:14.14,0:34:31.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Me, I am French. The French went to Vietnam and for sure didn't do only great things. But Thay received me as a child.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:31.28,0:34:36.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He told me, "Sit down with the children."
Dialogue: 0,0:34:36.08,0:34:44.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Today, I understand that it wasn't to learn to sing, but to learn peace.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:44.17,0:34:47.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's what I learned.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:47.72,0:34:57.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you so much. Thank you Jean-Pierre and Co Linh Tue. Can we offer flowers for our elder brother and sister in the community.
Dialogue: 0,0:34:57.80,0:35:02.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you so much.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:02.61,0:35:10.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I would like to invite Françoise and Shantum to come up to our "hot seat" or our "cool seat"
Dialogue: 0,0:35:10.54,0:35:15.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for the next chapter, a little bit later in the 1980s.
Dialogue: 0,0:35:15.97,0:35:28.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And maybe we can enjoy a sound of the bell
Dialogue: 0,0:35:28.56,0:35:48.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Bell]
Dialogue: 0,0:36:01.32,0:36:06.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you for being here. Maybe I will start with Françoise.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:07.02,0:36:13.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In English if I may. So you came a few years on.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:13.65,0:36:18.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What brought you here to Plum Village
Dialogue: 0,0:36:18.17,0:36:21.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and what did you find when you got here?
Dialogue: 0,0:36:21.38,0:36:28.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ok. I'd moved in 79 to the Netherlands
Dialogue: 0,0:36:28.30,0:36:31.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I worked for the International Fellowship of Reconciliation
Dialogue: 0,0:36:31.30,0:36:36.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the general secretary at that time was Jim Forrest.
Dialogue: 0,0:36:36.32,0:36:45.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,From Jim I learnt about Thay because Jim was the one who had spent a lot of time with Thay
Dialogue: 0,0:36:45.37,0:36:54.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the 60s when Thay did all those tours in the United States to talk about the war in Vietnam
Dialogue: 0,0:36:54.17,0:36:57.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the "American war" as it was known then,
Dialogue: 0,0:36:57.04,0:37:06.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the need for peace, saying - Vietnamese people did not want the war to continue, they want peace.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:06.06,0:37:12.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's not a question of Communism or Capitalism. They want peace.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:12.21,0:37:20.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Jim, he passed away 10 days before Thay, that's interesting,
Dialogue: 0,0:37:20.13,0:37:27.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he wrote a little book called "Eyes of Compassion", about all this period, which is very nice.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:27.39,0:37:32.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I remember he came here in 82 actually, Jim,
Dialogue: 0,0:37:32.59,0:37:39.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when he came back he said, or maybe in 83,
Dialogue: 0,0:37:39.65,0:37:47.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he said, "I've just been to Plum Village where Thay is living. I think you should go. You might enjoy it."
Dialogue: 0,0:37:47.10,0:37:54.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In 84 we had a council meeting, which is an international meeting.
Dialogue: 0,0:37:54.69,0:38:00.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was in the community of the Arc, which is not very far from here.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:00.19,0:38:12.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We decided we needed a car to bring material. And I said, oh maybe we can make a little detour by Plum Village and... check what it is
Dialogue: 0,0:38:12.18,0:38:13.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so we did for three days.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:13.53,0:38:18.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was sold, basically.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:18.84,0:38:27.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Jim had already given me a version of the 14 Mindfulness Trainings, the "Precept" at that time.
Dialogue: 0,0:38:27.12,0:38:31.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Which began with "Do not" in all of them
Dialogue: 0,0:38:31.96,0:38:42.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But, you know, having been brought up Catholic, it was not special or specific or ...
Dialogue: 0,0:38:52.95,0:39:00.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,spend time because the buddha used to go up\Nthere to watch the sun yeah it's mentioned
Dialogue: 0,0:39:00.24,0:39:06.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the buddha loved the sunset there also\Nmahakashapa the first zen master was transmitted
Dialogue: 0,0:39:06.83,0:39:14.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the awakening by the flower sermon but for\Nthai he just even the last time he came he
Dialogue: 0,0:39:14.19,0:39:20.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just spent the whole day in a hammock spending\Nthe enjoying himself so i think vulture peak
Dialogue: 0,0:39:20.03,0:39:27.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has become a symbol of our our community in\Nfact after his illness i think when we had
Dialogue: 0,0:39:27.20,0:39:33.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,our first gathering it is called the bulger\Npeak gathering so when the transmission took
Dialogue: 0,0:39:33.48,0:39:39.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,place for me it was just i was just organizing\Nbut i think that moment of seeing the uh the
Dialogue: 0,0:39:39.68,0:39:45.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hair being shaved of chiang kong of and you\Nknow uh stan annabelle and than men and then
Dialogue: 0,0:39:45.05,0:39:50.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a few people taking the five of 14 trainings\Non interest it was very moving because for
Dialogue: 0,0:39:50.23,0:39:55.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,me it was like i could it was a very moving\Nceremony for everyone it was tears and it
Dialogue: 0,0:39:55.89,0:40:02.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was but it was for me also it's just like\Nthat memory is very very strong so each time
Dialogue: 0,0:40:02.49,0:40:08.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the monastics and others come and when thai\Ncame again and again every time everyone got
Dialogue: 0,0:40:08.07,0:40:11.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,reshaved and mrs gina being reordained in\Na way on the belcher peak and it's become
Dialogue: 0,0:40:11.78,0:40:18.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a tradition of plum village and when we talk\Nabout plum village you know 40 years of plum
Dialogue: 0,0:40:18.34,0:40:23.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,village i don't see plum village only here\Nfor me this is my spiritual home but i see
Dialogue: 0,0:40:23.34,0:40:33.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,plum village on balcha peak and you know in\Nthe bay area and you know it's it's another
Dialogue: 0,0:40:33.75,0:40:37.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,dimension of plum village and so yeah i think
Dialogue: 0,0:40:37.43,0:40:42.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to start the the monastic tradition for thai\Nwas very important but i think for us as lay
Dialogue: 0,0:40:42.97,0:40:48.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people he gave so much he really i think put\Na lot of energy into us as lay people hoping
Dialogue: 0,0:40:48.65,0:41:00.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we would come up to whatever whatever\Nthat was and in the beginning you know there
Dialogue: 0,0:41:00.51,0:41:11.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was very strong uh sort of energy of lay people\Nbut as the monastics started after this first
Dialogue: 0,0:41:11.55,0:41:18.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,monastic ordination and then more then slowly\Nslowly that tradition became stronger and
Dialogue: 0,0:41:18.52,0:41:23.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that was what thai word thai was a monastic\Nhe knew that the best and he was experimenting
Dialogue: 0,0:41:23.09,0:41:32.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the west with a lay thing which is culturally\Nvery different for him anyway so we we used
Dialogue: 0,0:41:32.39,0:41:40.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to come and go you know so i think i think\Nthat moment of the monastic order starting
Dialogue: 0,0:41:40.08,0:41:45.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on plum on vulture peak is very important\Nfor our history because when i see this 300
Dialogue: 0,0:41:45.89,0:41:56.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,years from now i see that's i i for me it's\Nclear it's a fourfold sangha that's the charter
Dialogue: 0,0:41:56.21,0:42:03.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the tipian that's the revolution of thai\Nis the fourfold sangha i mean the buddha said
Dialogue: 0,0:42:03.54,0:42:14.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it too but it's not just high but it's very\Nmuch so i think he's always encouraged us
Dialogue: 0,0:42:14.36,0:42:15.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in that way
Dialogue: 0,0:42:15.57,0:42:22.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yeah i'm sorry i don't know whether that's\None answer but it's not the yeah it's just
Dialogue: 0,0:42:22.13,0:42:27.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when you watch the sunset you know you're\Nwatching the sunset like the buddha watched
Dialogue: 0,0:42:27.92,0:42:34.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and thai watched and you sit there for me\Nit's always in the footsteps of thai it's
Dialogue: 0,0:42:34.69,0:42:39.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i call it for such a buddha but i can see\Nthai everywhere when i go on pilgrimage you
Dialogue: 0,0:42:39.83,0:42:49.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,know where he sat and i work out where buddha\Nwould have sat but i know where thai's at
Dialogue: 0,0:42:49.61,0:42:54.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and where thai's you know had his which rock\Nhe sat under and how you know it's so he's
Dialogue: 0,0:42:54.39,0:43:00.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,imprinted in india and he's a child in india\Nyou should see some photographs actually i
Dialogue: 0,0:43:00.89,0:43:08.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,brought a photograph of him in india it's\Nin your dining room that one which is with
Dialogue: 0,0:43:08.68,0:43:17.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the mic with a broken mic i think he's like\Nhe was like a little child like meeting his
Dialogue: 0,0:43:17.94,0:43:26.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,teacher and his eyes would light up in each\Nplace he was like so i think here he was a
Dialogue: 0,0:43:26.79,0:43:31.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bit of a sage you know after a while everyone\Nsaw him but there was even when he came last
Dialogue: 0,0:43:31.03,0:43:36.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,time he was like a young boy meeting his own\Nteacher yeah thank you shantim and i would
Dialogue: 0,0:43:36.85,0:43:42.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,always say he was so proud of the book old\Npathway clouds because he felt he was able
Dialogue: 0,0:43:42.27,0:43:46.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to give give back the buddha his humanity\Nand so um through thai studies through his
Dialogue: 0,0:43:46.54,0:43:52.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,time researching in the libraries and through\Ntai's own practice and being in community
Dialogue: 0,0:43:52.00,0:44:02.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it became so important for him that the buddha\Nis not a god but is really a human being and
Dialogue: 0,0:44:02.21,0:44:09.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i think what all our speakers have shared\Nso far is thai's own humanity and tai's own
Dialogue: 0,0:44:09.01,0:44:14.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,humility and joy that really came through\Nthank you dear francoise and shantum we have
Dialogue: 0,0:44:14.79,0:44:22.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i have to be a little bit vigilant with the\Ntime so these are just taster uh words uh
Dialogue: 0,0:44:22.33,0:44:29.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thank you for sharing your hearts and your\Nexperience with us so we would like to offer
Dialogue: 0,0:44:29.50,0:44:34.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you our flowers of gratitude and the conversations\Ncan continue as the retreat continues thank
Dialogue: 0,0:44:34.48,0:44:35.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you so much
Dialogue: 0,0:44:35.52,0:44:43.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thank you thank you [Music] so from this period\Nof tai we have books like the sun my heart
Dialogue: 0,0:44:43.19,0:44:47.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which is a very deep book and also the favorite\Nof many of the monastics if you haven't read
Dialogue: 0,0:44:47.78,0:44:49.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this one this is a wonderful book
Dialogue: 0,0:44:49.95,0:44:57.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then we have uh being peace and really\Nthe theme of peace in thai's writings so we
Dialogue: 0,0:44:57.25,0:45:05.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would like to invite our next uh ones to come\Nup first of all we will start with sister
Dialogue: 0,0:45:05.81,0:45:12.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,gina and steffy and then we would like to\Ninvite sister benim and bettina to join you
Dialogue: 0,0:45:12.91,0:45:14.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so dears a ghost in muay
Dialogue: 0,0:45:14.84,0:45:23.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so around the time that uh uh sister gina\Nwas coming and steffy was coming in the very
Dialogue: 0,0:45:23.31,0:45:29.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,early 1990s as we as we were here tai was\Nreally beginning to teach about the sutra
Dialogue: 0,0:45:29.55,0:45:32.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on the full awareness of breathing so his\Nfirst commentary on this is called breathe
Dialogue: 0,0:45:32.76,0:45:40.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you are alive and it went on towards the end\Nof the 1990s tai then offered a 21-day retreat
Dialogue: 0,0:45:40.71,0:45:45.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on the 16 exercises of mindful breathing in\Nvermont in the us and that book is called
Dialogue: 0,0:45:45.91,0:45:53.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the path of emancipation so you get a sense\Nof the sorry oh sorry this was in florida
Dialogue: 0,0:45:53.80,0:46:02.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so uh you get it in key west so you get a\Nsense of the uh the ripening of ty's teachings
Dialogue: 0,0:46:02.96,0:46:09.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about breathing but maybe we would like to\Nhear a little bit how sister gina appeared
Dialogue: 0,0:46:09.73,0:46:15.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in plum village how did this happen and sister\Ngina was already a monastic at this time in
Dialogue: 0,0:46:15.30,0:46:19.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the japanese soto tradition so dearsoco how\Nhow did you get here
Dialogue: 0,0:46:19.96,0:46:25.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,part of the way on foot not by choice though
Dialogue: 0,0:46:25.84,0:46:40.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,um so i want yeah and which year was it yeah\Nthank you 19 the first 21 day retreat in june
Dialogue: 0,0:46:40.01,0:46:41.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,uh
Dialogue: 0,0:46:41.01,0:46:47.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,1990 1990 yeah so yes um so i was already\Nordained in the japanese tradition and after
Dialogue: 0,0:46:47.02,0:46:58.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,three years in a japanese temple sotto school\Nin japan and i had a great need to study the
Dialogue: 0,0:46:58.27,0:47:04.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,dharma more because my japanese was not enough\Nnot good enough to follow all the teachings
Dialogue: 0,0:47:04.47,0:47:11.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that were given of course in japanese so i\Ncame to the west and somewhere in one of i
Dialogue: 0,0:47:11.46,0:47:18.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,visited certain centers and in one of the\Ncenters i found a magazine called the mindfulness
Dialogue: 0,0:47:18.15,0:47:19.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bell number one
Dialogue: 0,0:47:19.52,0:47:28.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yes and i opened it read it and i thought\Nthat's where i want to go and in it it was
Dialogue: 0,0:47:28.20,0:47:38.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the announcements in a three-week retreat\Nwhat was it what is psychology i think buddhist
Dialogue: 0,0:47:38.31,0:47:59.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,psychology in this place called plum village\Nmerak france so i registered and um i knew
Dialogue: 0,0:47:59.48,0:48:12.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,emme so i looked up and somehow i figured\Nout i can't remember how that it was near
Dialogue: 0,0:48:12.81,0:48:21.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,eme which is not very far from here so that\Nokay i'll just go to email and then i'll go
Dialogue: 0,0:48:21.20,0:48:30.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to this place called mirak so i fly in bordeaux\Ntake a train you know end up in mma and then
Dialogue: 0,0:48:30.31,0:48:35.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,um realized there was no way there was no\Ntransportation direction mirak so i looked
Dialogue: 0,0:48:35.62,0:48:44.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the telephone book and i looked for plumbers\Nfrom finnish property in oakland village so
Dialogue: 0,0:48:44.54,0:48:54.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then i looked at every entry and i then\Ni found um buddhist initiation something something
Dialogue: 0,0:48:54.72,0:49:00.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something so the unified buddhist church or\Nsomething in french and i thought well i'll
Dialogue: 0,0:49:00.48,0:49:07.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,try that one there can't be many buddhist\Ncenters it it may just be that one so i called
Dialogue: 0,0:49:07.20,0:49:10.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and um a friendly lady lady's voice let's\Nput it that way answer the phone answered
Dialogue: 0,0:49:10.58,0:49:20.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and i said well you know i'm on my way to\Nplum village and i am in emme and how do i
Dialogue: 0,0:49:20.59,0:49:35.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,get to where you are and she said well you're\Nnot supposed to be there we only go to century
Dialogue: 0,0:49:35.55,0:49:40.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i don't know where central is so she said\Nsorry we have no car available so i said don't
Dialogue: 0,0:49:40.10,0:49:49.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,worry i'll walk and then she said well as\Nsoon as a car comes back we sent you away
Dialogue: 0,0:49:49.32,0:49:56.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i said oh compassion [Laughter] and it was\Na very hot day i had a backpack not too big
Dialogue: 0,0:49:56.73,0:50:04.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and i was started to walk and sometimes i\Nget migraine when i haven't had enough to
Dialogue: 0,0:50:04.82,0:50:11.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,drink and it's very hot and i developed a\Nmigraine as i walked and every time i put
Dialogue: 0,0:50:11.29,0:50:21.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my foot down it went in my head so i walked\Nvery carefully i mean you know the way i put
Dialogue: 0,0:50:21.16,0:50:31.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my foot on the earth and i walked in and then\Na certain point i came to a tree and i thought
Dialogue: 0,0:50:31.98,0:50:40.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i have to sit down it was very hot and i sat\Ndown and then a little beaten up uh cream
Dialogue: 0,0:50:40.29,0:50:47.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,renoka french car arrived and uh somebody\Nopened windows and said you must be centered
Dialogue: 0,0:50:47.51,0:51:00.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sister gina i thought oh saved [Laughter]\Nso they turned around and then drove me to
Dialogue: 0,0:51:00.18,0:51:13.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the lower hamlet here i was welcomed by an\Nwestern sister and then we walked to um two
Dialogue: 0,0:51:13.48,0:51:20.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,roomers going to stay or something and she\Nsaid i have to follow my breathing when i'm
Dialogue: 0,0:51:20.12,0:51:25.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,walking and i thought does she have a migraine\Ntoo [Laughter] it was just the annabelle who
Dialogue: 0,0:51:25.86,0:51:28.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,welcomed me so
Dialogue: 0,0:51:28.16,0:51:36.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a very very diligent um [Music] and very kind\Nsister as i got to know her i mean i i am
Dialogue: 0,0:51:36.33,0:51:47.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how did i say this i perceived her as a very\Nkind and and diligent sister and i thought
Dialogue: 0,0:51:47.07,0:51:49.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,oh she's going to be a role model for me um\Nyes so that was my arrival here and then towards
Dialogue: 0,0:51:49.48,0:51:57.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the end of the 21-day retreat could you share\Na little bit about that retreat was it can
Dialogue: 0,0:51:57.73,0:52:04.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you rem what was thai teaching was and how\Ndid tai seem when you met him because this
Dialogue: 0,0:52:04.60,0:52:11.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would have been the first time you met him\Nin person yes um so i was very impressed i
Dialogue: 0,0:52:11.73,0:52:15.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wondered whether this teacher was touching\Nthe earth at all it seemed to be floating
Dialogue: 0,0:52:15.62,0:52:17.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just above the earth and and
Dialogue: 0,0:52:17.83,0:52:20.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,what really struck me was that tyra's speaking\N[Music]
Dialogue: 0,0:52:20.48,0:52:24.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,using a very simple language for a very deep\Nteaching
Dialogue: 0,0:52:24.46,0:52:32.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and i realized i understand the words and\Ni need to be careful not to think because
Dialogue: 0,0:52:32.52,0:52:36.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i understand the words i have realized it\Nand that there is a life of practice and looking
Dialogue: 0,0:52:36.18,0:52:44.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,deeply and things behind those words so that\Nwas my my my um first impression and a lot
Dialogue: 0,0:52:44.02,0:52:49.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of gratefulness you know for a teacher like\Nthai able to to teach in that way and this
Dialogue: 0,0:52:49.85,0:52:54.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,would have been one of thai's first retreats\Nin english as well yes of course that i wasn't
Dialogue: 0,0:52:54.73,0:52:59.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,aware of [Laughter] here in plum village yes\Nuh it was the first uh retreat in english
Dialogue: 0,0:52:59.94,0:53:55.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the first 21 day retreat um and many many\Npeople who've been here before many from different
Dialogue: 0,0:53:55.69,0:54:04.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,traditions also the japanese sotho tradition\Nrinzai many many different traditions came
Dialogue: 0,0:54:04.76,0:54:08.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,together here to study with thai that also\Nmade me look ah because i only knew the subtle
Dialogue: 0,0:54:08.86,0:54:15.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tradition and only the japanese from japanese\Nso i thought well this teacher offers something
Dialogue: 0,0:54:15.10,0:54:22.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,obviously that many people are looking for\Nand i don't mean to say all than to step over
Dialogue: 0,0:54:22.44,0:54:29.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to to to the privileged tradition but to deepen\Nor understand their own tradition they were
Dialogue: 0,0:54:29.42,0:54:38.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in better yeah and so what struck you about\Nthe atmosphere that you found here then in
Dialogue: 0,0:54:38.60,0:54:45.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,1990 what what was i mean obviously we've\Nheard the buildings were very very simple
Dialogue: 0,0:54:45.47,0:54:53.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,does not look like a japanese zen temple and\Nwhat else struck you about that atmosphere
Dialogue: 0,0:54:53.43,0:54:57.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,here and what was different but also still\Nzen yes
Dialogue: 0,0:54:57.23,0:55:01.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it was the most diverse group i'd encounter\Non retweets
Dialogue: 0,0:55:01.72,0:55:09.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the atmosphere was one of i would not\Nhave called it at that time but sister and
Dialogue: 0,0:55:09.24,0:55:14.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,brotherhood a family you know yeah although\Nfrom very different uh traditions uh different
Dialogue: 0,0:55:14.94,0:55:20.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,nationalities that never been to a retreat\Nwith so many different nationalities although
Dialogue: 0,0:55:20.46,0:55:26.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the americans were i think very well represented\Nshantam was there i thought oh india is here
Dialogue: 0,0:55:26.22,0:55:30.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,too is that oh india is here too yes i was\Nvery very impressed by um the diversity because
Dialogue: 0,0:55:30.75,0:55:38.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i had not seen that before anywhere else yeah\Nand so you left after the 21 day retreat no
Dialogue: 0,0:55:38.04,0:55:45.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in fact i never left [Laughter] um i i had\Nlived my life um moving from country to country
Dialogue: 0,0:55:45.32,0:55:52.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i lived in 11 countries out of my own choice\Nnot because of jobs and things like that so
Dialogue: 0,0:55:52.49,0:56:01.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,towards the end of the 30 the three-week retreat\Nuh one of the um sisters who lived there approached
Dialogue: 0,0:56:01.46,0:56:05.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,me and said it i said we should invite you\Nto stay indefinitely i thought that's that
Dialogue: 0,0:56:05.66,0:56:07.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,word is not in my dictionary
Dialogue: 0,0:56:07.28,0:56:12.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but we'll see so that was in 1990 i'm getting\Nme close to indefinitely
Dialogue: 0,0:56:12.18,0:56:15.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i'm still here quite close i'm still here\Nand that is because um
Dialogue: 0,0:56:15.70,0:56:21.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it is always new in some way or another or\Nmaybe i have learned through thai's teaching
Dialogue: 0,0:56:21.79,0:56:28.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to look at all that is always new is never\Nthe same it's the impermanence maybe and the
Dialogue: 0,0:56:28.18,0:56:34.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,non-self i think those that teaching really\Num yeah spoke to me and speaks to me and is
Dialogue: 0,0:56:34.87,0:56:40.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really expressed in the sangha that continues\Nto evolve depending who is here and how the
Dialogue: 0,0:56:40.58,0:56:44.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,atmosphere is changed by the people that are\Nhere and so i think at the beginning of your
Dialogue: 0,0:56:44.15,0:56:46.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,era there were then the summer retreats that\Nwere more international with international
Dialogue: 0,0:56:46.95,0:56:53.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,guests coming to the upper hamlet yes right\Nand the vietnamese guests were in the lower
Dialogue: 0,0:56:53.37,0:57:03.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hamlet here really and so i think that was\None of the few times when nuns were living
Dialogue: 0,0:57:03.30,0:57:04.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the upper hammond and then so hosting a\Nvery international diverse community uh up
Dialogue: 0,0:57:04.52,0:57:08.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the upper hamlet so then the two rivers\Nwe start to get the sense of different rivers
Dialogue: 0,0:57:08.33,0:57:11.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,coming into the community and that international\Nriver may be growing every summer
Dialogue: 0,0:57:11.22,0:57:12.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yes
Dialogue: 0,0:57:12.22,0:57:15.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it has grown a lot that river and also
Dialogue: 0,0:57:15.02,0:57:21.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when when you all arrived i think i said and\Ni saw all of you i thought ty is so happy
Dialogue: 0,0:57:21.48,0:57:26.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because um i don't think there's one person\Nwho can continue thai but as a sangha we can
Dialogue: 0,0:57:26.50,0:57:32.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,continue thai and and i also see the sangha\Nis the most precious gift that thai has offered
Dialogue: 0,0:57:32.71,0:57:39.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,us yeah i'm very grateful so thai is very\Nhappy as always very happy to see all of you
Dialogue: 0,0:57:39.62,0:57:40.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,here
Dialogue: 0,0:57:40.62,0:57:46.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thank you dears ago so we have steffi here\Nsitting next to you and steffy you arrived
Dialogue: 0,0:57:46.81,0:57:53.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at a similar time and would you like to share\Nwhat kind of community you found in which
Dialogue: 0,0:57:53.79,0:57:55.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,year you came
Dialogue: 0,0:57:55.11,0:58:01.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yes it's i just can relate to the to the sangha\Nbecause margaret and i we arrived in the first
Dialogue: 0,0:58:01.06,0:58:12.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,time in september 93 and we just came here\Nfor one week and it was in september and tai
Dialogue: 0,0:58:12.03,0:58:17.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was on a long tour in america so thai was\Nnot even here and what we encountered was
Dialogue: 0,0:58:17.74,0:58:29.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a beautiful sangha and even sister gina was\Nnot here because he was in america um and
Dialogue: 0,0:58:29.50,0:58:33.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i remember the the moment we arrived um helga\Nfrom germany she was sitting in front of the
Dialogue: 0,0:58:33.32,0:58:38.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,person building where she was living together\Nwith her husband carl and she was very friendly
Dialogue: 0,0:58:38.26,0:58:45.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and she received us very openly and and it\Nwas a small sangha and i remember as well
Dialogue: 0,0:58:45.85,0:58:52.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when we we did uh we got an introduction for\Nwalking meditation by sister ellini she now
Dialogue: 0,0:58:52.12,0:59:00.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lives in new hamlet and we were with the three\Nof us just sister ellie margaret and i and
Dialogue: 0,0:59:00.32,0:59:05.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,she was teaching us how to do walking meditation\Nand we walked through the forest and then
Dialogue: 0,0:59:05.65,0:59:08.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the middle of the forest we stopped there\Nand we sang the song being an island unto
Dialogue: 0,0:59:08.86,0:59:12.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,myself and then i fall in love um completely\Nwith plum village after the first dharma sharing
Dialogue: 0,0:59:12.74,0:59:21.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i think what really really touched my heart\Nwas that we bow to each other that was really
Dialogue: 0,0:59:21.39,0:59:26.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a completely new experience to sit in a group\Nand that someone really was deeply listening
Dialogue: 0,0:59:26.22,0:59:42.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to me and margaret and i by the time we lived\Nin a community in holland and we had a quite
Dialogue: 0,0:59:42.92,0:59:50.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a challenging community life there and not\Nso well listening to each other and we came
Dialogue: 0,0:59:50.45,0:59:58.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to plum village be because we read an article\Nin a dutch newspaper and the title was the
Dialogue: 0,0:59:58.67,1:00:03.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,village of peace in france and we thought\Noh that sounds good we really need peace so
Dialogue: 0,1:00:03.51,1:00:12.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then after this one week we decided this\Nis a good place we want to stay here longer
Dialogue: 0,1:00:12.78,1:00:19.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we want to be a permanent resident of plum\Nvillage and so we organized our lives and
Dialogue: 0,1:00:19.94,1:00:24.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we came back in the following year march 94\Nand we stayed on then for two years being
Dialogue: 0,1:00:24.38,1:00:33.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,part of the of the resident community of plum\Nvillage and so at this time thai the community
Dialogue: 0,1:00:33.03,1:00:41.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was very small just maybe a couple of dozen\Nguests and a couple of dozen monastics and
Dialogue: 0,1:00:41.74,1:00:49.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i think you were sharing earlier that everyone\Ncould fit in the small red candle hall for
Dialogue: 0,1:00:49.87,1:00:56.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,dharma talks or for meditations and so on\Nand would you like to share a little bit how
Dialogue: 0,1:00:56.34,1:01:01.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tai was teaching you at that time and something\Ni would love to hear about what happened one
Dialogue: 0,1:01:01.38,1:01:05.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,day when you went to the upper hamlet for\Na day of mindfulness and something unexpected
Dialogue: 0,1:01:05.47,1:01:09.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,unfolded oh yes something very unexpected\Nunfolded it was at the end of the winter retreat
Dialogue: 0,1:01:09.64,1:01:16.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and i think it was a winter retreat 90 at\Nthe end of 1994-95
Dialogue: 0,1:01:16.67,1:01:22.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and entirette asked us during the winter retreat\Nvery often please write letters i would like
Dialogue: 0,1:01:22.58,1:01:29.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to know how the practice is going i need your\Nfeedback i need your feedback from my talks
Dialogue: 0,1:01:29.45,1:01:35.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he asked us several times and then quite\Nat the end of the winter retreat we came up
Dialogue: 0,1:01:35.76,1:01:47.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to the upper hamlet and the torque would take\Nin the small transformation hole so not in
Dialogue: 0,1:01:47.59,1:01:54.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the big hole so you can imagine that big was\Nthe winter retreat so we all fit it in in
Dialogue: 0,1:01:54.96,1:01:59.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the transformation hall and then we entered\Nthe hall and it was a completely different
Dialogue: 0,1:01:59.75,1:02:09.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,setup all no cushions only tables with shares\Nlike in a school and i no it was it was an
Dialogue: 0,1:02:09.50,1:02:10.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,upper hand at margaret
Dialogue: 0,1:02:10.82,1:02:13.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you would like to come sit next to me
Dialogue: 0,1:02:13.55,1:02:18.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,okay it was an upper hamlet and he was already\Nin the room and on each table there was a
Dialogue: 0,1:02:18.69,1:02:26.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,stack of paper with a plum village mark on\Nit very official you know and i was looking
Dialogue: 0,1:02:26.40,1:02:27.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,very seriously and he said so examination\Ntoday
Dialogue: 0,1:02:27.58,1:02:32.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and and then we all sat at the table it's\Na little bit um said okay there's a final
Dialogue: 0,1:02:32.10,1:02:35.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,examination after the winter retreat you have\Nto sit down and then you write this examination
Dialogue: 0,1:02:35.56,1:02:39.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,take out your pencil it was really like a\Nvery very serious teacher and then we sat
Dialogue: 0,1:02:39.01,1:02:46.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,down and he wrote 10 questions on the white\Nboard the first was how is your sitting meditation
Dialogue: 0,1:02:46.22,1:02:52.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how is your walking meditation how is your\Neating meditation how do you practice with
Dialogue: 0,1:02:52.41,1:02:58.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,strong emotions have you practiced uh beginning\Na new are you in harmony with the sangha so
Dialogue: 0,1:02:58.32,1:03:01.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ten questions and we said oh you really could\Nfeel a very dense uh energy and then all in
Dialogue: 0,1:03:01.96,1:03:05.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a sudden he turned around and with this really\Nbig smile he smiled at us and he said so uh
Dialogue: 0,1:03:05.64,1:03:08.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you haven't wrote me a letter i have not received\Nenough letters so this is now my way i need
Dialogue: 0,1:03:08.82,1:03:13.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some feedback because my teachings depend\Nvery much on what you are sharing with me
Dialogue: 0,1:03:13.52,1:03:22.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so let's enjoy writing this letter to\Nme and then he smiled and all in a sudden
Dialogue: 0,1:03:22.71,1:03:30.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this energy of of being very serious with\Njust one smile and one sentence he dissolved
Dialogue: 0,1:03:30.60,1:03:36.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it and yeah you just could see that ty had\Na lot of fun uh by himself to have uh put
Dialogue: 0,1:03:36.62,1:03:43.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,us first in this place and then giving us\Nthis relaxation and and you did all have to
Dialogue: 0,1:03:43.25,1:03:50.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,do then sit there and actually do it yes we\Ndid it all and then and it took two hours
Dialogue: 0,1:03:50.83,1:03:57.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or even three hours to answer all these questions\Nand then and then in the next dumber talks
Dialogue: 0,1:03:57.35,1:04:01.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,he kind of gave us a feedback on what we had\Nwritten and i know one friend she had written
Dialogue: 0,1:04:01.87,1:04:07.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on the question how was your eating meditation\Nshe wrote my eating meditation is good and
Dialogue: 0,1:04:07.59,1:04:12.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then i said in the summer talk okay listen\Nthis is not enough you can write that that
Dialogue: 0,1:04:12.50,1:04:17.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the food is good and delicious but only writing\Nmy eating meditation is good that's not enough
Dialogue: 0,1:04:17.07,1:04:23.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,reflection [Laughter] so this is so wonderful\Nbecause we really get the sense of a teacher
Dialogue: 0,1:04:23.53,1:04:29.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really wanting to develop the practices and\Nthe way to train his students and so you're
Dialogue: 0,1:04:29.32,1:04:36.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,part of the kind of laboratory of teachings\Nand practices as tai was developing all of
Dialogue: 0,1:04:36.37,1:04:42.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the dharma doors that he was in the 1990s\Nthe particular way of walking meditation here
Dialogue: 0,1:04:42.02,1:04:48.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in plum village the particular way of offering\Nguided meditation which is one of the things
Dialogue: 0,1:04:48.87,1:04:55.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that tai has really offered the west and didn't\Nexist in the west before thai started to create
Dialogue: 0,1:04:55.63,1:04:59.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these ways to combine key phrases with the\Nbreathing and of course a relaxed way of eating
Dialogue: 0,1:04:59.13,1:05:05.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,meditation that's not as rigid as in many\Nbuddhist traditions and so on so and i think
Dialogue: 0,1:05:05.57,1:05:09.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tai was at this point also very excited in\Nall the communication practices around deep
Dialogue: 0,1:05:09.89,1:05:16.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,listening loving speech beginning anew and\Nalso the peace treaty so i would like to invite
Dialogue: 0,1:05:16.07,1:05:21.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bettina and sister binyum also if sister binyum\Nyou're still here wonderful to come up we
Dialogue: 0,1:05:21.23,1:05:26.95,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can have maybe could someone help bring one\Nmore chair would be wonderful can we squeeze
Dialogue: 0,1:05:26.95,1:05:35.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,three in the sofa can we be cozy in the sofa\Nbettina do you think you can fit in very intimate
Dialogue: 0,1:05:35.34,1:05:37.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sisterhood you can manage okay wonderful
Dialogue: 0,1:05:37.26,1:05:44.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you get the sense of the sisterhood spirit\Nfrom the 1990s in lower hamlet
Dialogue: 0,1:05:44.13,1:05:52.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so uh sister binyam would you like to share\Na bit about your arrival here to lower hamlet
Dialogue: 0,1:05:52.07,1:05:56.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and what community did you find in which year
Dialogue: 0,1:05:56.04,1:06:03.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,well i first arrived in 1993 as a lee person\Nin upper hamlet in summer retreat and was
Dialogue: 0,1:06:03.48,1:06:10.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,very very beautiful experience i fell in love\Nwith i fell in love with blood village right
Dialogue: 0,1:06:10.04,1:06:16.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,away i had met tai already in germany on a\Nretreat that spring and i fell in love with
Dialogue: 0,1:06:16.26,1:06:23.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it there already but then with the community\Nhere again yeah i just already when i met
Dialogue: 0,1:06:23.23,1:06:29.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tai just from i don't know five day retreat\Ni think it was i felt i want to be a nun and
Dialogue: 0,1:06:29.24,1:06:34.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i can't be what isn't done you don't even\Nknow what a nun is you don't you can't say
Dialogue: 0,1:06:34.89,1:06:42.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that but it was in me and i came here now\Nwow the free the freedom the peace peace as
Dialogue: 0,1:06:42.43,1:06:53.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,freedom not freedom doing crazy things but\Nthe peace here and also sought away from civilization
Dialogue: 0,1:06:53.39,1:06:58.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in a good way sort of not the stress and you\Nhave to like this and you have to do this
Dialogue: 0,1:06:58.82,1:07:03.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but to live from the inside was very very\Nvery important to me
Dialogue: 0,1:07:03.20,1:07:12.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i didn't become a nun right away because i\Ndidn't trust myself with this inner voice
Dialogue: 0,1:07:12.23,1:07:20.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for a while but i came back regularly to plum\Nvillage and to thai at that time came to germany
Dialogue: 0,1:07:20.52,1:07:24.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,every year so i came to retreat with thai\Nand this deepened my practice my life for
Dialogue: 0,1:07:24.53,1:07:29.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thai for plum village i had my own little\Nsangha at home and at some point i knew yes
Dialogue: 0,1:07:29.29,1:07:50.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i really want and i can trust that i want\Nto be a nun and was in mulhat too with my
Dialogue: 0,1:07:50.72,1:07:54.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mother who was old and sick i decided to stay\Nwith her and let go of that dream for the
Dialogue: 0,1:07:54.46,1:08:00.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,moment but it really developed or became stronger\Nthat i really trusted it well while i was
Dialogue: 0,1:08:00.88,1:08:07.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with my mother four was a wish between but\Nthen it was yes that's what i want to after
Dialogue: 0,1:08:07.65,1:08:14.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my mother died i came to plum village in december\N96 and there we had just bought or blameless
Dialogue: 0,1:08:14.20,1:08:21.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,had just bought the new hamlet i've been used\Nto the upper hamlet and the west hamlet and
Dialogue: 0,1:08:21.12,1:08:27.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i almost stayed in the west hamill but everything\Nwas in the upper hamlet under linden tree
Dialogue: 0,1:08:27.64,1:08:37.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then i was in the new helmet that year\Nwas the first year of the new hamlet and no
Dialogue: 0,1:08:37.27,1:08:44.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lay friends were allowed that time because\Nthe nuns should first nuns before when the
Dialogue: 0,1:08:44.46,1:08:49.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lower hamlet should sort of find their their\Nuh fight together again in this new place
Dialogue: 0,1:08:49.60,1:09:03.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and well there were lots of things to do also\Ni have one one not just the winter between
Dialogue: 0,1:09:03.22,1:09:15.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sort of one year nearly a few months they're\Nin the new hamlet just being on their own
Dialogue: 0,1:09:15.14,1:09:16.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to to
Dialogue: 0,1:09:16.35,1:09:23.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to become the new hamlet sangha and that was\Nvery good for me i could really be with the
Dialogue: 0,1:09:23.47,1:09:33.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,nuns right away otherwise i would have been\Nwith the lay friends and some where the nuns
Dialogue: 0,1:09:33.60,1:09:41.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but so i could be there from the beginning
Dialogue: 0,1:09:41.31,1:09:49.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so the the dawn of having of some plum village\Nexpansion um because i think there was um
Dialogue: 0,1:09:49.98,1:09:55.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,plum village was a little bit illegal at the\Nbeginning i think the paperwork in france
Dialogue: 0,1:09:55.43,1:10:02.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was quite complicated and i think in the summer\Nretreat of 2005-6 suddenly um i think lower
Dialogue: 0,1:10:02.86,1:10:13.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hamlet was shut down and that is the origin\Nto why new hamlet was bought because they
Dialogue: 0,1:10:13.70,1:10:20.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,had hundreds of people we heard those numbers\Nfrom sister dinium hundreds of people coming
Dialogue: 0,1:10:20.92,1:10:30.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for the summer retreat and it was illegal\Nto have it here and there was an old i think
Dialogue: 0,1:10:30.60,1:10:39.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it was some kind of children's home that was\Nup for sale and they managed to find a donor
Dialogue: 0,1:10:39.57,1:10:45.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to buy new hamlet so they could still have\Na summer retreat so it was a last minute purchase
Dialogue: 0,1:10:45.76,1:10:48.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that's the origin and then they took that\Nopportunity of having different environments
Dialogue: 0,1:10:48.93,1:10:55.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to then create a monastic environment there\Nin the new hamlet and sistibenium as a aspirant
Dialogue: 0,1:10:55.58,1:11:02.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to be was able to join that atmosphere and\Nthen here in the lower hamlet it became a
Dialogue: 0,1:11:02.94,1:11:10.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lay community for a couple of years and so\Nbettina i wonder if you would like to share
Dialogue: 0,1:11:10.39,1:11:14.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a little bit about the effect of that here\Nin the lower hamlet um so when the new hamlet
Dialogue: 0,1:11:14.89,1:11:21.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was bought and all the sisters of laura hamlet\Nhas been invited to move to new hamlet the
Dialogue: 0,1:11:21.29,1:11:25.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lower hamlet was a place where we could live\Ntogether as a lay community for up to i think
Dialogue: 0,1:11:25.60,1:11:31.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,nearly two years 98 and there have been a\Ngerman dharma teacher couple karl enter garidel
Dialogue: 0,1:11:31.41,1:11:36.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who now was the indesign sangha in germany\Nin design center and the vietnamese dharma
Dialogue: 0,1:11:36.55,1:11:45.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,teacher couple an huang tintri now fabloo\Nand sister queen yem and also juan and and
Dialogue: 0,1:11:45.08,1:11:50.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,duke have been there and we yes the daughter\Nand some other friends and so we've we were
Dialogue: 0,1:11:50.48,1:11:55.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,suddenly yeah in this situation to run the\Nhamlet and it was a wonderful time because
Dialogue: 0,1:11:55.71,1:12:00.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we felt a lot of trust from the community\Nfrom thai to really make that possible and
Dialogue: 0,1:12:00.96,1:12:08.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it was really wonderful to do and yeah on\Nall levels worked together as a sangha and
Dialogue: 0,1:12:08.41,1:12:14.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we had guests it was a normal life like in\Nall the other hamlets with the two days of
Dialogue: 0,1:12:14.28,1:12:21.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mindfulness and in the beginning very exciting\Nthe first mindfulness day the first christmas
Dialogue: 0,1:12:21.08,1:12:27.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,festival and all that and it was a day of\Na lot of a time of lot of learning and coming
Dialogue: 0,1:12:27.58,1:12:33.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,together and yeah giving a lot of empowerment\Nand also beautifully in this time being together
Dialogue: 0,1:12:33.57,1:12:39.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with a monastic community on these days and\Nchai was often coming on lazy days around
Dialogue: 0,1:12:39.19,1:12:46.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,resting a little bit in his room and walking\Naround and asking us when he met us are you
Dialogue: 0,1:12:46.32,1:12:47.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lazy enough
Dialogue: 0,1:12:47.32,1:12:56.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we felt really good taken care by him\Nby this question and showing up and yeah also
Dialogue: 0,1:12:56.68,1:13:05.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,like you said the community was so small in\Nthis time and we had not access to thai as
Dialogue: 0,1:13:05.56,1:13:12.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not monastics but he was somehow he was very\Npresent and available and walking around and
Dialogue: 0,1:13:12.77,1:13:19.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a little here there and a little how it's\Ngoing there and
Dialogue: 0,1:13:19.81,1:13:30.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yeah he even visited us on the chat visiting\Nroom thing it was climbing up persimmon up
Dialogue: 0,1:13:30.74,1:13:34.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there and so it was a wonderful wonderful\Ntime this period and what would you feel with
Dialogue: 0,1:13:34.87,1:13:39.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the kind of em the place the teaching that\Ntai was highlighting most at this time what
Dialogue: 0,1:13:39.87,1:13:47.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was he speaking about in the talks what was\Nhe guiding you all on i guess it's very very
Dialogue: 0,1:13:47.62,1:13:53.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,very personal of course what i choose to say\Nnow i think in this year there have been a
Dialogue: 0,1:13:53.48,1:14:02.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lot of this basic practices like the sutra\Nanapanasati and a lot of living in harmony
Dialogue: 0,1:14:02.10,1:14:05.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,together and we were not asked to have a test\Nbut we got sometimes homeworks i remember
Dialogue: 0,1:14:05.94,1:14:12.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in this years like writing about what did\Nyou do when you had a crisis did you really
Dialogue: 0,1:14:12.89,1:14:20.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,take refuge into the buddha in you and the\Nsangha or did you start to judge and do all
Dialogue: 0,1:14:20.80,1:14:35.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,these things so this kind and um for me it's\Nit's the most i think through all these years
Dialogue: 0,1:14:35.59,1:14:49.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of this big treasure of ty's teachings to\Nembody always inviting us to embody what he
Dialogue: 0,1:14:49.28,1:14:56.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was talking about like to really then practice\Nbeginning you or to really breathe when you
Dialogue: 0,1:14:56.52,1:15:00.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are excited and so um yeah i feel very basic\Nliving in the moment living the teachings
Dialogue: 0,1:15:00.75,1:15:02.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and also i've had a lot of
Dialogue: 0,1:15:02.94,1:15:13.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,relaxation you know this are you lazy enough\Nit's for me also a sentence of this time of
Dialogue: 0,1:15:13.53,1:15:24.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,uh really we had a lot to do of course with\Nthe hamlet but the main thing was how is the
Dialogue: 0,1:15:24.80,1:15:32.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,energy you are doing things always coming\Nback to what is your energy and how is your
Dialogue: 0,1:15:32.59,1:15:39.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,being and then to move out and do your activities\Ni thought somehow it was very fundamental
Dialogue: 0,1:15:39.30,1:15:40.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,very basic very grounding
Dialogue: 0,1:15:40.51,1:15:49.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a good a good memory to have the art of being\Npeace and also while in action and sister
Dialogue: 0,1:15:49.62,1:15:54.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,binyum do you have similar memories of this\Ntime what struck you most about this special
Dialogue: 0,1:15:54.94,1:15:56.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,period in the 1990s
Dialogue: 0,1:15:56.41,1:16:08.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,well after one year i came to the lower hamlet\Nsister gina had been come the abbas and
Dialogue: 0,1:16:08.36,1:16:17.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it was no longer hamlet then was it two years\Nfrom all i know it was 98 probably and then
Dialogue: 0,1:16:17.10,1:16:23.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they were only 12 there i think they started\Nwith eight and then four of us came down came
Dialogue: 0,1:16:23.88,1:16:31.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from new hamlet here and we were 12 and summer\Nretreat people came it was full here and 12
Dialogue: 0,1:16:31.28,1:16:38.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of us had to do several things not just pot\Nwashing but this and then that but i loved
Dialogue: 0,1:16:38.29,1:16:49.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it very much it was very beautiful for me\Nwhen you asked bettina what was the teaching
Dialogue: 0,1:16:49.80,1:17:07.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there all of a sudden it popped up to me i\Nmean thai i can't say i remember that when
Dialogue: 0,1:17:07.19,1:17:15.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i came as a aspirant the first two winters\Ntai was teaching the sutras that i know he
Dialogue: 0,1:17:15.32,1:17:23.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just took the chanting book and and taught\Nsutra after sutra and i remember that sometimes
Dialogue: 0,1:17:23.99,1:17:31.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,some in the middle of the suit were teaching\Nhe's talked about sister so-and-so doing this
Dialogue: 0,1:17:31.31,1:17:41.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and that he always his teaching was very personal\Nhe never just taught a sutra but he explained
Dialogue: 0,1:17:41.83,1:17:53.11,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then with the problem of a system it was very\Nvery applied sutra that unknown ties uh never
Dialogue: 0,1:17:53.11,1:18:02.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we should never just study the sutras uh any\Ntexts if they don't apply to our life if we
Dialogue: 0,1:18:02.69,1:18:07.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,don't practice it there's no sense in knowing\Nthem and when you asked patina came up in
Dialogue: 0,1:18:07.94,1:18:09.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,me that at that time tai was sort of for a\Nwhile
Dialogue: 0,1:18:09.14,1:18:13.97,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,advancing the idea that every not just every\Ncountry but every big city should have a mindfulness
Dialogue: 0,1:18:13.97,1:18:16.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,practice center without monastics just lay\Npeople and that's when
Dialogue: 0,1:18:16.92,1:18:22.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,karl schmidt brought asked karen helga to\Nleave plum village to come and he bought intersign
Dialogue: 0,1:18:22.04,1:18:27.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,center in germany and they are to this day\Nthe the dharma teachers of intersign that
Dialogue: 0,1:18:27.31,1:18:32.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was they left here i think two thousand i'm\Nnot totally sure 90 i ordained in february
Dialogue: 0,1:18:32.36,1:18:47.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,98 i think they might have left 99 and i think\Nworldwide it's the only one that at least
Dialogue: 0,1:18:47.29,1:18:58.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that stayed longer but that was a big thing\Nfor thai at that time so tai is sort of developing
Dialogue: 0,1:18:58.83,1:19:03.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the practices here in the community context\Nand setting of plan village and then really
Dialogue: 0,1:19:03.87,1:19:10.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,inviting everyone to experiment back in their\Nhome towns and cities and i think the 1990s
Dialogue: 0,1:19:10.35,1:19:17.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was also a period when a lot of sanghas started\Nall over europe and all over the u.s so it
Dialogue: 0,1:19:17.05,1:19:21.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was around this time that tai was teaching\Nthe heart of the buddha's teachings so from
Dialogue: 0,1:19:21.75,1:19:26.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,his research the elements that he felt were\Nthe most important for all his students to
Dialogue: 0,1:19:26.48,1:19:32.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,understand and this remains on amazon one\Nof the best-selling buddhist books in in the
Dialogue: 0,1:19:32.44,1:19:35.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,english language
Dialogue: 0,1:19:35.71,1:19:38.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it was around this time we have the book\Nuh touching peace the art of mindful living
Dialogue: 0,1:19:38.92,1:19:45.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in community the book of the poems the gatters\Nthat you see posted around in the bathrooms
Dialogue: 0,1:19:45.46,1:19:51.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the bedrooms these are translated from\Nthe tradition and then really applied here
Dialogue: 0,1:19:51.69,1:20:02.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in plum village this book is called present\Nmoment wonderful moment and there's a new
Dialogue: 0,1:20:02.19,1:20:10.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,edition of that out now and thai's kind of\Nnumber one uh book next to the miracle of
Dialogue: 0,1:20:10.72,1:20:15.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,mindfulness peace is every step also came\Nout at this time so there was really with
Dialogue: 0,1:20:15.44,1:20:19.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the presence of the community around tai he's\Nreally exploring what would a community of
Dialogue: 0,1:20:19.17,1:20:21.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,peace look like and what would practices of\Npeace look like
Dialogue: 0,1:20:21.96,1:20:27.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so i think we're halfway through the books\Nwe wish we would have more time i have two
Dialogue: 0,1:20:27.91,1:20:36.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more sofas of people i would love just to\Nto bring up here and i hope we can get through
Dialogue: 0,1:20:36.42,1:20:43.45,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,everyone by dinner so thank you so much to\Nour sisters lay and monastic from the 1990s
Dialogue: 0,1:20:43.45,1:20:48.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thank you so much and i would like thank you\Nyes flowers and gratitude for you all being
Dialogue: 0,1:20:48.72,1:20:59.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,here thank you so i would like to invite lisa\Nrenika and jesse to come up so we will fast
Dialogue: 0,1:20:59.63,1:21:06.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,forward a little bit uh through the 2000s\N[Music] and we will look at some of the ways
Dialogue: 0,1:21:06.52,1:21:13.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that thai's engagement and socially engaged\Nbuddhism applied buddhism has expressed itself
Dialogue: 0,1:21:13.66,1:21:20.93,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we will be cozy on the sofa this is an intimate\Nsisterhood sofa
Dialogue: 0,1:21:20.93,1:21:32.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,maybe we can listen to a sound of the bell\Nto refresh our hearts and our breathing and
Dialogue: 0,1:21:32.32,1:21:34.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,arrive into this precious moment
Dialogue: 0,1:21:34.74,1:21:35.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,[Music]
Dialogue: 0,1:21:35.74,1:21:41.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so before this panel started i said it will\Nbe a challenge with the time you'll have at
Dialogue: 0,1:21:41.86,1:21:47.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,least three minutes maybe four or five but\Ni think we're down to three so
Dialogue: 0,1:21:47.62,1:21:54.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,um lisa you are from jerusalem and you first\Nencountered tai i'd i'm not sure whether it
Dialogue: 0,1:21:54.54,1:22:01.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was when he came to israel um but if you would\Nlike to share a bit about his um powerful
Dialogue: 0,1:22:01.19,1:22:04.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,trip to israel in i believe 1997 and the impact\Nthat had
Dialogue: 0,1:22:04.58,1:22:12.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thank you dear tai dear sangha it was remarkable\N1997 he must have touched thousands of people
Dialogue: 0,1:22:12.08,1:22:17.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in throughout israel we had a five-day retreat\Nsilent retreat that was really incredible
Dialogue: 0,1:22:17.61,1:22:21.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to have a thousand silent jews for five days
Dialogue: 0,1:22:21.33,1:22:30.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and as a result of his visit oh my goodness\Ndozens of sanghas sprang out sprung up all
Dialogue: 0,1:22:30.58,1:22:36.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,over all over israel and practice very dedicated\Npractices started all over the country that
Dialogue: 0,1:22:36.35,1:22:44.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was 1997 and at the time i was a war correspondent\Nfor the boston globe working in jerusalem
Dialogue: 0,1:22:44.50,1:22:50.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and i had covered many suicide bombings and\Nmonths before they arrived one of the suicide
Dialogue: 0,1:22:50.15,1:22:55.43,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bombings ended up with me feeling incredible\Nlove for this suicide bomber and i didn't
Dialogue: 0,1:22:55.43,1:23:02.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,understand why and when i met tai and sister\Nchen kong sister chen kang explained to me
Dialogue: 0,1:23:02.89,1:23:09.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that my heart had discovered its buddha nature\Nso that was a revolution in my life and from
Dialogue: 0,1:23:09.85,1:23:16.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,then on i [Music] i left journalism and i\Nbecame a peace activist and i helped to found
Dialogue: 0,1:23:16.74,1:23:22.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a peace academy in a palestinian school in\Nin east jerusalem which was a really remarkable
Dialogue: 0,1:23:22.01,1:23:29.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,experience and and time [Music] and then sister\Nluke neem and brother fab lai and a few other
Dialogue: 0,1:23:29.02,1:23:37.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,monastics came to do a day of mindfulness\Nwith us in the school and then i saw what
Dialogue: 0,1:23:37.83,1:23:41.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,teaching really was and i saw how the kids\Nwho normally turned the classroom upside down
Dialogue: 0,1:23:41.10,1:23:46.87,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,or turned upside down themselves in a really\Ngood way and i realized that's what i want
Dialogue: 0,1:23:46.87,1:23:52.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to do i want to i want to work with mindfulness\Nwith with they worked with all ages it was
Dialogue: 0,1:23:52.83,1:24:00.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it was a drastic change from the way the school\Nnormally was and so i brought a team of palestinian
Dialogue: 0,1:24:00.99,1:24:07.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of my students here to a wake up retreat a\Ncouple of years ago before before the pandemic
Dialogue: 0,1:24:07.85,1:24:17.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,hit and that was that was it that was so remarkable\Nthe first thing is palestinians are very much
Dialogue: 0,1:24:17.99,1:24:22.55,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i think like the vietnamese they only want\Ntheir own cooking so they took over the kitchen
Dialogue: 0,1:24:22.55,1:24:27.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they cooked for 500 young people from\Naround the globe and they were received with
Dialogue: 0,1:24:27.60,1:24:32.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,such warmth um the monastics were so lovely\Nthey they set up our dinner underneath the
Dialogue: 0,1:24:32.04,1:24:36.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,trees the thai planted on upper hamlet and\Nthey had the musicians playing classical music
Dialogue: 0,1:24:36.34,1:24:40.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we ate maklouba it's called upside down\Nwe ate it in silence listening to this music
Dialogue: 0,1:24:40.17,1:24:45.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it was it was this massive prayer for\Npalestine and for everybody and then at the
Dialogue: 0,1:24:45.75,1:24:50.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,end of the wake up retreat our palestinian\Nyoungsters uh were gonna dance their their
Dialogue: 0,1:24:50.42,1:24:56.19,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,debka their their national dance but none\Nof them could dance you know so they stood
Dialogue: 0,1:24:56.19,1:24:59.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there and they heard the music and they had\Nthe rhythm in them but they couldn't they
Dialogue: 0,1:24:59.56,1:25:03.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,couldn't quite get the steps out and so 500\Nyoung people from around the globe rushed
Dialogue: 0,1:25:03.83,1:25:11.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the stage and jumped up and down shouting\Nfree free palestine free we you know we we
Dialogue: 0,1:25:11.56,1:25:20.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can't change the world but we can change the\Nworld but we can dance for you thank you lisa
Dialogue: 0,1:25:20.76,1:25:29.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for this beautiful testimony and tai um as\Nsome of you may know in 2003 hosted an incredible
Dialogue: 0,1:25:29.08,1:25:30.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,encounter with people from both palestine\Nand from israel practicing deeply together
Dialogue: 0,1:25:30.80,1:25:36.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for two weeks first separately and then after\Nabout a week or ten days of practice creating
Dialogue: 0,1:25:36.36,1:25:45.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,moments for the groups um to be able to speak\Nto one another of their own suffering and
Dialogue: 0,1:25:45.48,1:25:53.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i think a lot of the sort of interventions\Nthat tai has made at the international level
Dialogue: 0,1:25:53.54,1:25:58.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,around how dialogue is possible between warring\Nparties comes from tai's work of compassion
Dialogue: 0,1:25:58.09,1:26:00.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with the israelis and palestinians and lisa's\Ncontinuing to work to bring more palestinians
Dialogue: 0,1:26:00.90,1:26:04.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,here every year and also coming this summer\Nso this is one way in which thai's peace work
Dialogue: 0,1:26:04.58,1:26:11.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,uh is continuing and we're very happy to support\Nyou in that lisa thank you so much thank you
Dialogue: 0,1:26:11.70,1:26:18.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so dear renika you would like to start about\Nyour share your journey um which i guess both
Dialogue: 0,1:26:18.88,1:26:22.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your personal journey and then how your own\Npractice has expressed itself in engaged uh
Dialogue: 0,1:26:22.57,1:26:26.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,action within the sangha and beyond thank\Nyou um the thai de beloved community um [Music]
Dialogue: 0,1:26:26.73,1:26:32.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so this is a journey really that um started\Nwith both of us so it's really a journey of
Dialogue: 0,1:26:32.96,1:26:37.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,um both of our beginning of what i'm going\Nto say and it started at plum village 2004
Dialogue: 0,1:26:37.33,1:26:42.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and actually i remember the conflict resolution\Nthat happened and 2004 was like an exploration
Dialogue: 0,1:26:42.50,1:26:49.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to oh meditation yes i've heard of meditation\Nit's it's part of my culture but i'm not quite
Dialogue: 0,1:26:49.13,1:26:55.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sure what that means because it was kind of\Nlost because i was i grew up in england and
Dialogue: 0,1:26:55.65,1:27:02.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there was not a lot of meditation going on\Nthere and the things that i did understand
Dialogue: 0,1:27:02.60,1:27:07.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was um was kind of a bit mystic so i didn't\Nreally understand any of it so then i went
Dialogue: 0,1:27:07.08,1:27:14.13,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in search for what meditation was and it's\Nwhat brought me to plum village and um on
Dialogue: 0,1:27:14.13,1:27:18.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that year i also um recognized that there\Nwasn't many teachers that were not like from
Dialogue: 0,1:27:18.86,1:27:28.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the east in the west and so that was kind\Nof my personal journey really to kind of explore
Dialogue: 0,1:27:28.22,1:27:33.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that side of practice and take that home really\Ndid speak to me in many ways um and so did
Dialogue: 0,1:27:33.99,1:27:38.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a lot of the monastics and one of the monastics\Ni'd like to mention is sister jewell kyra
Dialogue: 0,1:27:38.44,1:27:41.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,jewel she's now deroged and she's doing a\Nlot of the practice and teachings out in the
Dialogue: 0,1:27:41.99,1:27:47.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,uh us and she was kind of like a mentor to\Nme in a way that she really uh
Dialogue: 0,1:27:47.78,1:27:53.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,she kind of she had an eye on on on people\Nlike me let's put it this way and she asked
Dialogue: 0,1:27:53.33,1:27:58.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,she invited me to kind of speak about my practice\Nand my trainings one of the five mindfulness
Dialogue: 0,1:27:58.30,1:28:03.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,trainings in the uk and it's not something\Ni do it's this is really not me i do not do
Dialogue: 0,1:28:03.23,1:28:10.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,big presentations i'm pretty shy but it was\Nit was an opportunity to recognize that this
Dialogue: 0,1:28:10.08,1:28:16.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,wasn't just me speaking it was for my ancestors\Nand for the future generations like me who
Dialogue: 0,1:28:16.14,1:28:17.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,don't have access to this practice
Dialogue: 0,1:28:17.32,1:28:22.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so that was my vision back in 2004 three and\Nfour and um there was many barriers really
Dialogue: 0,1:28:22.33,1:28:29.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i mean i'm going to go and talk about the\Nheart of london sanger is that okay okay well
Dialogue: 0,1:28:29.59,1:28:35.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i'll just quickly say that um natasha was\Npart of asanga at in london heart of london
Dialogue: 0,1:28:35.24,1:28:40.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at heart of london sanger known as natasha\Nthen and we're very excited that she was going
Dialogue: 0,1:28:40.29,1:28:47.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to become a monastic and we've we bid her\Nfarewell and here she is and um part of that
Dialogue: 0,1:28:47.37,1:28:54.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,entering the sangha in london was not diverse\Nbelieve it or not even though london is a
Dialogue: 0,1:28:54.15,1:28:58.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,very diverse city it wasn't very diverse at\Nall and it didn't feel like um a home it wasn't
Dialogue: 0,1:28:58.74,1:29:07.39,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a home for me and one of the dharma seals\Nas we've heard is i am home i have arrived
Dialogue: 0,1:29:07.39,1:29:17.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so i really wanted to create that in the\Nsangha so it took um quite a lot of efforts
Dialogue: 0,1:29:17.04,1:29:23.51,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and a lot of stops and starts and i i found\Na friend that was able to do that with me
Dialogue: 0,1:29:23.51,1:29:28.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so i'm going to pass it on to jesse if we've\Nrun it out of time
Dialogue: 0,1:29:28.50,1:29:37.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thank you yeah um we met at that retreat in\N2004 here and actually at that retreat was
Dialogue: 0,1:29:37.52,1:29:47.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one of the retreats where palestinians and\Nisraelis are invited to come and practice
Dialogue: 0,1:29:47.31,1:29:56.79,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,together and i remember i knew nothing about\Nplum village and i saw that happening and
Dialogue: 0,1:29:56.79,1:30:03.73,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i thought ah okay this is what i want i want\Nsomething that's engaged with the world that
Dialogue: 0,1:30:03.73,1:30:12.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can give me a path and yes we met here and\Num i think that um something that happened
Dialogue: 0,1:30:12.77,1:30:18.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for me is that i had enough for various causes\Nand conditions i had just enough awareness
Dialogue: 0,1:30:18.24,1:30:23.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to realize what it what a challenge it would\Nbe um to be in the sangha um as such a minority
Dialogue: 0,1:30:23.85,1:30:31.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in that environment and um and me and renika\Njust clicked and we became very good friends
Dialogue: 0,1:30:31.59,1:30:37.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and um she has built the colours of compassion\Nsanger in in the uk and in the in the heart
Dialogue: 0,1:30:37.96,1:30:42.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of london to really make a home and it's been\Na long journey where we we had many times
Dialogue: 0,1:30:42.33,1:30:46.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of coming together not just us but us and\Nothers slowly slowly slowing in organically
Dialogue: 0,1:30:46.46,1:30:52.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to build friendships and and to um build both\Nawareness um with the with the white people
Dialogue: 0,1:30:52.24,1:31:01.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the sangha and just to slowly build that\Nand i know we haven't got time to tell the
Dialogue: 0,1:31:01.53,1:31:12.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,whole story so i'm not going to go into detail\Nbut i think that um i really want to honor
Dialogue: 0,1:31:12.06,1:31:21.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you because you've done something that i haven't\Nseen anywhere else i don't know if it's happening
Dialogue: 0,1:31:21.18,1:31:28.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,anywhere else but so far i haven't seen in\Nthis tradition in europe which is to build
Dialogue: 0,1:31:28.75,1:31:35.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that home where people can um just come and\Nfind their solidity to be part of this sangha
Dialogue: 0,1:31:35.37,1:31:36.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in europe yeah
Dialogue: 0,1:31:36.72,1:31:41.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,veronica would you like to share a little\Nbit about the joy of creating the colours
Dialogue: 0,1:31:41.86,1:31:42.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of compassion sangha
Dialogue: 0,1:31:42.86,1:31:46.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,joy and colours of compassion are synonymous\Nbecause um we practice in the um spirit of
Dialogue: 0,1:31:46.96,1:31:53.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,honoring our ancestors and if you have together\Nwe are one you'll book you'll see that um
Dialogue: 0,1:31:53.40,1:31:58.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in that book there's many stories of people\Num who are not white sharing their stories
Dialogue: 0,1:31:58.49,1:32:08.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of um healing from the hurts of of the oppression\Nof the racial oppressions and um you know
Dialogue: 0,1:32:08.00,1:32:11.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this is 52 of the population we're talking\Nabout so it's it's it was really honorable
Dialogue: 0,1:32:11.56,1:32:18.03,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to know that things that we could have voices\Nwe could have that voice and also practice
Dialogue: 0,1:32:18.03,1:32:22.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the spirit of honoring and respecting our\Nown root tradition alongside this tradition
Dialogue: 0,1:32:22.81,1:32:28.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and it had many meanings and it's very eclectic\Nit's not just one homogenous group so we have
Dialogue: 0,1:32:28.34,1:32:33.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,very many cultures and richness and times\Nof celebrating our own practices alongside
Dialogue: 0,1:32:33.31,1:32:38.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thai's practices so it's been very joyful\Nto have the retreats that we did have in the
Dialogue: 0,1:32:38.90,1:32:47.07,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,uk led by um kyra jewell and we had three\Nof those it was filled out and i do believe
Dialogue: 0,1:32:47.07,1:32:56.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that when the first um bipod poc retreat happened\Num there was that was filled out to about
Dialogue: 0,1:32:56.58,1:33:05.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,500 people um in the u.s and it was all um\Napproved i guess by tai he he really supported
Dialogue: 0,1:33:05.44,1:33:11.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this practice he supported these um retreats\Nhe saw the um the amount of um healing that
Dialogue: 0,1:33:11.21,1:33:21.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was taking place yeah thank you so much renika\Njesse and lisa so we hope that uh this very
Dialogue: 0,1:33:21.20,1:33:29.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,brief testimony um can also inspire many of\Nus in our local sanghas to really see how
Dialogue: 0,1:33:29.67,1:33:35.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we can support and empower the non-white members\Nin our sangers to have safe spaces uh to really
Dialogue: 0,1:33:35.53,1:33:44.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ask how we can be of support how we can trust\Nand interest so that those spaces can take
Dialogue: 0,1:33:44.28,1:33:52.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,place and we hope here in plum village to\Nbe able to create more such spaces for people
Dialogue: 0,1:33:52.04,1:33:58.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of color so that we really have the representation\Nthe diversity that is reflective of the world
Dialogue: 0,1:33:58.75,1:34:05.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and so all of us can also and especially those\Nof us who have been socialized as white or
Dialogue: 0,1:34:05.66,1:34:10.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,present as white that we have a chance also\Nto look deeply and to really practice non-discrimination
Dialogue: 0,1:34:10.41,1:34:15.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,compassion and generosity from a real place\Nof deep understanding [Music] of racial inequity
Dialogue: 0,1:34:15.06,1:34:19.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the world and that's part of our path as\Nthai students and for me when we speak about
Dialogue: 0,1:34:19.65,1:34:22.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this as a community i feel we're really honoring\Nthe legacy of thai's friendship with dr martin
Dialogue: 0,1:34:22.24,1:34:27.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,luther king so if we see ourselves as thai\Nstudent this is also part of our work to do
Dialogue: 0,1:34:27.28,1:34:31.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and to support so thank you so much to our\Nwonderful sofa here present and uh we heard
Dialogue: 0,1:34:31.36,1:34:40.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the we heard the dinner bell but if uh if\Nyou would like to return to your seats i would
Dialogue: 0,1:34:40.41,1:34:46.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,just like to introduce to you uli annika and\Ndorote if you're still here dojote
Dialogue: 0,1:34:46.92,1:34:52.47,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,yes please just come up briefly and i would\Njust like to to introduce you we wanted to
Dialogue: 0,1:34:52.47,1:34:59.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,show also the future of plum village and many\Nof the directions where thai's work is going
Dialogue: 0,1:34:59.06,1:35:03.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so we have anika representing the international\Nwake up community dojote representing our
Dialogue: 0,1:35:03.62,1:35:11.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,happy farms which are organic vegetable farms\Nthat thai insisted we should start developing
Dialogue: 0,1:35:11.14,1:35:17.67,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,here in plum village and uli from germany\Nrepresenting our earth holder community uh
Dialogue: 0,1:35:17.67,1:35:23.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and tai's teachings to bring uh love and peace\Nand healing to the earth so i wonder if i
Dialogue: 0,1:35:23.98,1:35:28.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,can give you each one minute with the microphone\Nand then we promise we'll go and serve our
Dialogue: 0,1:35:28.83,1:35:30.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,dinner so annika a few lines
Dialogue: 0,1:35:30.41,1:35:39.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,um dear tadia sanger one minute well maybe\Nwhat i can say is that
Dialogue: 0,1:35:39.68,1:35:44.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i'm probably not representing wake up i can\Nonly i'm happy to coordinate for wake up and
Dialogue: 0,1:35:44.28,1:35:49.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to see that it's growing and flourishing that\Nthe pandemic has given rise to even more
Dialogue: 0,1:35:49.26,1:36:02.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the river growing or becoming even stronger\Nand wake up sanghas all over the world opening
Dialogue: 0,1:36:02.23,1:36:08.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their doors to just everyone instead of just\Nfunctioning locally
Dialogue: 0,1:36:08.17,1:36:15.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i've seen lian in many online meetings who\Nis now he's sitting here as an aspirant and
Dialogue: 0,1:36:15.61,1:36:22.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is so engaged also with extinction rebellion\Nand i think showing very beautifully the the
Dialogue: 0,1:36:22.69,1:36:27.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,spirit of wake up of young people who are\Nhappy to find belonging in a uh and empowerment
Dialogue: 0,1:36:27.60,1:36:32.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,through mindfulness through the practice um\Nyeah who find a home in the practice as well
Dialogue: 0,1:36:32.99,1:36:39.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as like-minded people who want to work and\Nengage for a better world and i'm deeply grateful
Dialogue: 0,1:36:39.96,1:36:47.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to tai and the sangha for having given rise\Nto that and it's an honor to support this
Dialogue: 0,1:36:47.52,1:36:57.15,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,movement and i'm sad to grow out of it soon\N[Laughter] [Music] yes thank you thank you
Dialogue: 0,1:36:57.15,1:37:06.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,annika so ty started the wake up movement\Nin 2008 in a summer retreat i wonder was anyone
Dialogue: 0,1:37:06.21,1:37:13.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,here in that summer retreat in that moment\Nso you may remember this funny moment when
Dialogue: 0,1:37:13.34,1:37:19.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tai insisted that some of us stand up and\Nannounce the creation of young buddhists and
Dialogue: 0,1:37:19.71,1:37:28.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,non-buddhists for a healthy and compassionate\Nsociety and i had to say this so many times
Dialogue: 0,1:37:28.08,1:37:32.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then i had to read out this announcement\Nand say the ybhcs which doesn't have the same
Dialogue: 0,1:37:32.18,1:37:38.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ring to it as the ymca so so then we came\Nup with the phrase the wake up movement and
Dialogue: 0,1:37:38.75,1:37:48.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,tai was inspired to do this as we heard from\Nsister dinimum yesterday because tai had been
Dialogue: 0,1:37:48.12,1:37:54.63,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,working with young people since the beginning\Nof his career as a monk and he knew that young
Dialogue: 0,1:37:54.63,1:38:00.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,people can practice meditation young people\Ncan practice mindfulness and that the aspiration
Dialogue: 0,1:38:00.78,1:38:07.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of young people to be of service in the world\Nwhen supported by a mindfulness practice can
Dialogue: 0,1:38:07.23,1:38:13.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really help young people serve as a community\Nas a collective and he did that in vietnam
Dialogue: 0,1:38:13.12,1:38:16.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with the school of youth for social service\Nand was experimenting with the wake up movement
Dialogue: 0,1:38:16.12,1:38:20.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,here in the west to see how young people can\Npractice together to be seeds of change in
Dialogue: 0,1:38:20.77,1:38:24.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the world so thank you anikaf and we have\Nalso jazz in the upper hamlet who on a volunteer
Dialogue: 0,1:38:24.10,1:38:28.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,basis have been supporting this incredible\Nnetwork of young people and we're so grateful
Dialogue: 0,1:38:28.58,1:38:33.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to you annika for that and for doherty so\Na couple of years after starting the wake
Dialogue: 0,1:38:33.91,1:38:39.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,up movement tai wanted to see how we can have\Nmore young people in plum village and with
Dialogue: 0,1:38:39.46,1:38:45.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the brothers he had the idea to create vegetable\Nfarms so that we can really come and have
Dialogue: 0,1:38:45.88,1:38:55.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,time healing with the earth our hands in the\Nsoil nurturing the seeds in the land so dojote
Dialogue: 0,1:38:55.18,1:39:01.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one minute about the happy farms thank you\Nsister um dear hall um i don't know really
Dialogue: 0,1:39:01.26,1:39:13.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,how to start um of course plum village doesn't\Nwait the happy farm to manifest to grow food
Dialogue: 0,1:39:13.33,1:39:26.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and to garden but i think we are also helping\Nwith the happy farm the monastic community
Dialogue: 0,1:39:26.31,1:39:36.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who doesn't have the time as a gardener to\Nspend so much time in the garden so that's
Dialogue: 0,1:39:36.35,1:39:43.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,also one of the aspects of the happy farm\Nwho started in her parliament in 2012 and
Dialogue: 0,1:39:43.60,1:39:51.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i did my first retreat in 2013 and i fall\Nin love with the practice and with the project
Dialogue: 0,1:39:51.22,1:39:57.85,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the happy farm i think at that time i see\Nmy first eggplant plant aubergine plant and
Dialogue: 0,1:39:57.85,1:40:06.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,i was so amazed and so amazed about yeah what\Nwhat they share about this project is not
Dialogue: 0,1:40:06.36,1:40:15.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,obviously only about growing food but it's\Nalso um yeah the linked with all the the metaphor
Dialogue: 0,1:40:15.10,1:40:22.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we can find in thai stitching uh with\Nthe seeds you know is um yeah growing um nourishing
Dialogue: 0,1:40:22.76,1:40:31.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,ourselves and all yeah all the metaphors about\Nnature that we can find uh on his teaching
Dialogue: 0,1:40:31.30,1:40:40.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we try to um to be with those teaching in\Nthe garden i often uh tell myself that the
Dialogue: 0,1:40:40.56,1:40:45.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the happy happy farm is my meditation hall\Nbecause sometimes i miss uh some of the other
Dialogue: 0,1:40:45.36,1:40:51.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,activity with the sangha because yeah may\Nand june are really um busy at the garden
Dialogue: 0,1:40:51.99,1:41:00.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and i i really enjoy just knowing that the\Nsong i also is practicing and i'm i'm practicing
Dialogue: 0,1:41:00.18,1:41:05.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,um in the happy farm yeah it's also a place\Nfor transmitting and to inspired of um yeah
Dialogue: 0,1:41:05.46,1:41:12.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from where come the food and maybe we can\Nall start growing our own food in any scale
Dialogue: 0,1:41:12.34,1:41:19.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and yeah that's for me so uh important and\Ninspiring thank you thank you and what i i
Dialogue: 0,1:41:19.66,1:41:24.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,find fascinating is how tai was still experimenting\Nwith what a healthy community looks like and
Dialogue: 0,1:41:24.50,1:41:29.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a healthy community grows its own vegetables\Nin mindfulness and a healthy community is
Dialogue: 0,1:41:29.41,1:41:38.23,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a place where young people can come and touch\Npeace and touch meaning and i feel also that
Dialogue: 0,1:41:38.23,1:41:49.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with the wake up movement and the happy farm\Nthai was also seeing what he can offer the
Dialogue: 0,1:41:49.18,1:41:56.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,young generation who will face so many challenges\Nahead in the coming decades what are the skills
Dialogue: 0,1:41:56.16,1:42:04.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the the physical skills but also the inner\Nresilience and learnings that the young generations
Dialogue: 0,1:42:04.71,1:42:11.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,will need to survive the challenges ahead\Nso i feel it's a great gift that we're experimenting
Dialogue: 0,1:42:11.98,1:42:21.83,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with in the wake up movement and with our\Nhappy farms so thank you both and uli this
Dialogue: 0,1:42:21.83,1:42:30.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is connected also to thai's teachings on the\Nearth and thai gave so many teachings on the
Dialogue: 0,1:42:30.38,1:42:41.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,earth i have we'll just show some of the books\Nthat we may recognize the first one was called
Dialogue: 0,1:42:41.90,1:42:51.96,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the world we have where tai really started\Nraising the alarm bell he described the climate
Dialogue: 0,1:42:51.96,1:43:00.31,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,crisis as a bell of mindfulness in this book\Nand then tai went further and said we need
Dialogue: 0,1:43:00.31,1:43:11.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to fall in love with the earth and some of\Nus may remember these teachings in 2011 2012
Dialogue: 0,1:43:11.00,1:43:20.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and they became the book love letters to the\Nearth and then more recently and the teachings
Dialogue: 0,1:43:20.22,1:43:29.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that i gave to young people have become this\Nbook zen and the art of saving the planet
Dialogue: 0,1:43:29.49,1:43:39.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where we also have all of thai's teachings\Non engaged action and ecology and thai's vision
Dialogue: 0,1:43:39.01,1:43:45.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for how the young generation can protect our\Nworld so ali what would you like to share
Dialogue: 0,1:43:45.28,1:43:46.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,about the earth holder community
Dialogue: 0,1:43:46.98,1:43:51.99,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,first i want to share that i'm reading this\Nbook you mentioned the last and it's not only
Dialogue: 0,1:43:51.99,1:43:58.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from tai it's also from sister to dedication\Nshe writes many interesting parts in this
Dialogue: 0,1:43:58.10,1:43:59.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,book it's very inspiring
Dialogue: 0,1:43:59.40,1:44:07.17,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,one motivation to leave my beloved teacher\Nin the japanese center edition was that i
Dialogue: 0,1:44:07.17,1:44:13.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,could not uh combine this experience so like\Nthis like this like this i could not combine
Dialogue: 0,1:44:13.72,1:44:19.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this meditation practice with my political\Nactivism i could not share it with my family
Dialogue: 0,1:44:19.49,1:44:25.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and i could not share it with my students\Nin the university and i was a political activist
Dialogue: 0,1:44:25.50,1:44:31.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,since i started with my studies but i was\Nmotivated by hate by fear and [Music]
Dialogue: 0,1:44:31.08,1:44:32.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,also filled with despair
Dialogue: 0,1:44:32.08,1:44:40.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and to encounter ties teachings about activism\Nin a different kind it inspired me a lot being
Dialogue: 0,1:44:40.30,1:45:08.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,active out of love being active and at the\Nsame time caring for yourself being active
Dialogue: 0,1:45:08.44,1:45:11.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and not opposing someone not uh
Dialogue: 0,1:45:11.65,1:45:23.35,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,say you are guilty and i'm right no we are\Nin the same boat and the ones who make the
Dialogue: 0,1:45:23.35,1:45:36.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,coal mines in australia i'm fighting they\Nare in me and this is uh the poem
Dialogue: 0,1:45:36.27,1:45:52.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of thai call me by my true names is the poem\Nfor every activist you have no opponent the
Dialogue: 0,1:45:52.33,1:46:41.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,opponent is in your heart and this is a very\Nvery deep teaching and i'm so grateful to
Dialogue: 0,1:46:41.54,1:46:49.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,have this teacher and to have a community\Nthat shares this concern for mother earth
Dialogue: 0,1:46:49.52,1:47:06.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,thank you thank you uli so if you haven't\Nyet heard about
Dialogue: 0,1:47:06.00,1:47:31.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the earth holder sangha or the gardian de\Nla terre here in france they have
Dialogue: 0,1:47:31.58,1:47:56.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a wonderful website full of resources and\Nwe're just starting in the last couple of
Dialogue: 0,1:47:56.12,1:48:07.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,years to develop earth holder groups here\Non in europe and there are many already in
Dialogue: 0,1:48:07.65,1:48:35.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,america and they do a lot of online activities\Nwhich are wonderful to join discussions presentations
Dialogue: 0,1:48:35.84,1:48:57.91,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and study study groups and it's a wonderful\Nway to express our love for the earth as tai
Dialogue: 0,1:48:57.91,1:49:03.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,has encouraged us to do
Dialogue: 0,1:49:03.10,1:49:18.37,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so voila we arrive somewhere through some\Nkind of arc we've had a beautiful uh journey
Dialogue: 0,1:49:18.37,1:49:23.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and we arrive to activism engagement and love\Nfor the earth thank you for being up here
Dialogue: 0,1:49:23.32,1:49:29.71,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,our final cushion sofa group you can return\Nto your seats thank you so much and thank
Dialogue: 0,1:49:29.71,1:50:20.59,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you everyone for your patience and generous\Nlistening we've had a journey along the river
Dialogue: 0,1:50:20.59,1:50:33.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of
Dialogue: 0,1:50:33.46,1:51:33.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the sangha and \Ni hope you have felt the spirit of community
Dialogue: 0,1:51:33.98,1:52:23.89,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that shines through the people that really\Nmake the sangha and of course there are so
Dialogue: 0,1:52:23.89,1:53:12.27,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,many ways to still tell the story of plum\Nvillage maybe as many people as have experienced
Dialogue: 0,1:53:12.27,1:53:31.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,plum village that's how many stories there\Nare so we're just presenting a brief glimpse
Dialogue: 0,1:53:31.04,1:53:54.75,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of flavor of the arc of growth and especially\Nas told by those who've practiced here in
Dialogue: 0,1:53:54.75,1:54:21.65,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the lower hamlet so we will enjoy listening\Nto three sounds of
Dialogue: 0,1:54:21.65,1:54:49.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the bell to close our session thank you so\Nmuch we can enjoy feeling feeling connected
Dialogue: 0,1:54:49.42,1:56:34.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to one another and feeling enriched by everything\Nwe've heard
Dialogue: 0,1:56:34.18,1:56:56.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,as \Nwe enjoy these sounds of the bell
Dialogue: 0,1:56:56.36,1:56:56.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you