Seven exercises to listen in an effective way | Alessandro Lucchini | TEDxTrento
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0:14 - 0:17(Singing) How many roads ...
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0:17 - 0:20must a man walk down ...
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0:20 - 0:24before you call him a man?
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0:26 - 0:29How many seas ...
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0:29 - 0:33must a white dove sail ...
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0:33 - 0:36before she sleeps in the sand?
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0:39 - 0:41How many times ...
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0:41 - 0:45must the cannonballs fly ...
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0:45 - 0:48before they're forever banned?
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0:50 - 0:53The answer, my friend ...
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0:53 - 0:56is blowin' in the wind.
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0:56 - 1:00The answer is blowin' in the wind.
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1:06 - 1:08How many times ...
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1:08 - 1:11must a man look up ...
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1:12 - 1:15before he can see the sky?
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1:17 - 1:20How many ears ...
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1:20 - 1:23must one man have ...
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1:24 - 1:27before he can hear people cry?
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1:31 - 1:34(Singing stops)"How many ears ...
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1:34 - 1:36must one man have?"
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1:36 - 1:39"How many ears must one man have...
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1:39 - 1:42before he can hear other people cry?"
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1:42 - 1:46I always focused on this line
while singing "Blowin' in the wind." -
1:46 - 1:49I think the author focused on it too
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1:49 - 1:51when he sang this song.
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1:52 - 1:55How many ears do we have?
How many ears must we have? -
1:55 - 1:59"If gods gave us two ears ..."
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1:59 - 2:00a philosopher said,
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2:00 - 2:04"and just one mouth,
maybe there was a reason." -
2:04 - 2:11Instead, we think that we have to train
in order to speak and write. -
2:11 - 2:16All the speakers you will hear today
did their best, I'll grant you. -
2:17 - 2:20But we think we can just
stay there in order to listen. -
2:21 - 2:24"Ascolto" (listening")
is a difficult skill. -
2:24 - 2:29In order to listen, you need to focus,
to commit yourself. It's like flying. -
2:29 - 2:31You need to lift and move.
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2:31 - 2:34You need to go somewhere else.
You need to be willing to change. -
2:35 - 2:40Since "Ascolto" has seven letters,
as you can see from the dots ... -
2:40 - 2:45maybe you can guess
that I'm going to create a pun. -
2:45 - 2:48I'm a linguist, so it was predictable.
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2:48 - 2:51I'm going to give you seven tips.
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2:52 - 2:54They will be marked up
by the seven letters of the word. -
2:54 - 2:57They will help you to listen
in an efficient way. -
2:58 - 2:59First tip.
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3:00 - 3:01"A."
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3:01 - 3:06Listen in order to listen
and not to reply nor to judge. -
3:07 - 3:09Well, think about Bob Dylan event.
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3:09 - 3:14I know that starting from Dylan isn't
the most popular choice these days. -
3:14 - 3:18But, did anyone ask him
what was his opinion? -
3:18 - 3:21Did anyone ask him
why did he behave like that? -
3:21 - 3:23No, nobody did.
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3:23 - 3:27After an initial silent phase,
we were all ready to label him. -
3:27 - 3:31He is overbearing, arrogant.
Who does he think he is? -
3:31 - 3:34Then he stated: "Thank you,
sorry, you're very polite ... -
3:34 - 3:36but I can't, I have things to do."
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3:36 - 3:38So other arguments broke out.
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3:38 - 3:42You answer that way when they invite you
to a school classmates reunion. -
3:42 - 3:44You say "I have things to do."
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3:44 - 3:44It's not fair.
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3:44 - 3:47Who knows, maybe he doesn't feel up to it.
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3:47 - 3:48I don't know. We didn't ask him.
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3:48 - 3:50This is what we usually do.
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3:51 - 3:54We listen very little.
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3:54 - 3:56We listen as much as we need
to put a label. -
3:56 - 3:58I think you are doing this,
we all do this. -
3:58 - 4:00"Ah, look how he is dressed."
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4:00 - 4:01"Ah, what about the guitar?"
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4:01 - 4:03"Ah, that Milanese accent."
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4:03 - 4:05"It's not all that difficult."
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4:05 - 4:09So, whatever happens here ...
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4:09 - 4:11we label very quickly.
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4:11 - 4:12Alternatively ...
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4:12 - 4:15we listen as much as we need to reply.
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4:15 - 4:17Think about a business meeting.
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4:17 - 4:19One speaks, then the second
and then the third. -
4:19 - 4:21At a certain point I flip out.
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4:21 - 4:22I start preparing my answer.
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4:22 - 4:24I don't listen to the others anymore.
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4:24 - 4:26Or at a conference, when they say:
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4:26 - 4:29"Later there will be time
for the questions." -
4:29 - 4:32I prepare my question,
I don't listen to what they say anymore. -
4:32 - 4:35Just listen in order to listen
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4:35 - 4:40This is the first exercise
that I recommend to you. -
4:40 - 4:42Then there is the "S"
in the word 'ascolto'. -
4:42 - 4:46Do we listen exclusively to words?
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4:46 - 4:50There are many elements
that help us to listen. -
4:50 - 4:54There are three channels through which
we express what we have inside. -
4:54 - 4:55Words.
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4:55 - 4:58Verbs, nouns, adjectives, and so on.
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4:58 - 5:01Then there is the phonetic channel.
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5:01 - 5:03Well-read people call it prosody.
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5:03 - 5:04The sounds.
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5:04 - 5:06The timbre of the voice and its loudness.
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5:06 - 5:11If your timbre is like that of Gassmann,
Proietti or Gruber you're lucky. -
5:11 - 5:15If your voice sounds
like that of a political leader ... -
5:15 - 5:16you may flounder.
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5:16 - 5:18Or like Mario Giordano.
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5:18 - 5:21With that voice you need
to make a lot of efforts. -
5:21 - 5:24But if I have a Gassmann-voice,
I start speaking with this tone ... -
5:24 - 5:26I go on for ten minutes ...
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5:26 - 5:27everyone would fall asleep.
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5:27 - 5:31Sometimes you need to speak louder.
Other times you must keep your voice down. -
5:31 - 5:34Sometimes you need to speak faster
in order to draw attention. -
5:34 - 5:37Other times people speak more slowly.
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5:37 - 5:39Sometimes we make ...
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5:43 - 5:44some pauses.
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5:44 - 5:46Think about that hole
in the stomach ... -
5:46 - 5:48when your doctor
checks your blood test results. -
5:48 - 5:50And at a certain point ...
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5:51 - 5:53You start to feel ...
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5:53 - 5:54very anxious.
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5:54 - 5:57You could employ your lover
or your friends ... -
5:57 - 6:00to try this experiment
about the effects of a pause. -
6:00 - 6:03You should take this person
out of the blue, -
6:03 - 6:04shake her and ask her:
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6:04 - 6:06"Tell me the truth!"
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6:06 - 6:07"Do you love me?"
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6:07 - 6:10And he or she could reply:
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6:11 - 6:12"Yes!"
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6:12 - 6:16But what did you feel before hearing
the answer you expected? -
6:16 - 6:19And then there is the physical side.
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6:19 - 6:21Dressing, smile, posture.
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6:21 - 6:22Think about the gestures.
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6:22 - 6:25If I say, "We have a great opportunity."
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6:25 - 6:29I say "great" but with my hands,
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6:29 - 6:30How much does it excite you?
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6:30 - 6:32"I am very happy to be here at TED today."
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6:32 - 6:33You wouldn't believe me.
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6:33 - 6:35If I say: "I'm very happy!"
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6:35 - 6:37You could believe me.
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6:37 - 6:39So, this is the second exercise.
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6:39 - 6:43We listen not only to words but also
to many other elements around them. -
6:44 - 6:47"C." This stands for "certain words."
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6:47 - 6:50It is appropriate to listen
to certain words. Which ones? -
6:51 - 6:54We have a huge amount of words
in our languages. -
6:54 - 6:58185,000 words are contained
in that big dictionaries. -
6:58 - 7:00The richest dictionary
has 465,000 words. -
7:00 - 7:03It's made up by six or seven volumes.
I don't remember. -
7:03 - 7:06It contains both common words
and words deriving from "DIS." -
7:07 - 7:09DIS means Special Italian Dictionaries.
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7:09 - 7:13DIS are related to specific fields:
medicine, law, insurance, banking, sport. -
7:13 - 7:16Think about the language
of computer technicians: -
7:16 - 7:18Zip, drop, backup, upload it.
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7:18 - 7:23Download, print, flag, re-upload it.
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7:23 - 7:27Among them they are fluent,
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7:27 - 7:32What would happen if I said a word
in my DIS and you read it in yours? -
7:33 - 7:34Let's take the word "prize".
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7:34 - 7:36I meant the cup
because I am a sportsman. -
7:36 - 7:39You meant the payment
of the insurance policy. -
7:39 - 7:43In this context 'positive' and 'negative'
mean what they say. -
7:43 - 7:47"How was TED?" "Very positive."
You must be happy about that. -
7:47 - 7:50In the context of a medical analysis
'positive' has the opposite meaning. -
7:50 - 7:52It's not a shade of meaning.
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7:52 - 7:56Next week, if we vote, we will vote
'yes' to say yes and 'no' to say no. -
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It's an exception. -
7:57 - 8:00Referendum usually works the opposite way.
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8:00 - 8:03Among this huge amount
of ambiguous words, -
8:03 - 8:06we have around 250 special words.
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8:06 - 8:10They are called "hot words";
words that warm our heart. -
8:11 - 8:14And among these, around 50
are named "key words." -
8:14 - 8:18Key words can open our heart
or they can lock it. -
8:18 - 8:21It must be happened to someone
named Alessandro, like me. -
8:21 - 8:25When we introduce ourselves:
"Alessandro." "Me too! Great!" -
8:26 - 8:29But the first thing that comes
to your mind is you, your children, -
8:29 - 8:31the people you love.
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8:32 - 8:35If I could see some
white-haired heads among you, -
8:35 - 8:41I'd know that the word "Fornero" maybe
can change your temperature. -
8:41 - 8:48So, it's useful, while listening,
to recognize the words that give energy; -
8:48 - 8:52strength, love, health, honour, freedom.
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8:52 - 8:55The words on which people put emphasis.
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8:55 - 8:58Let's recognize them and treat them
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8:59 - 9:00"O."
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9:00 - 9:03"O" (or) is a word
that creates a crossroads. -
9:03 - 9:04Do you eat this or that?
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9:04 - 9:06Do you prefer staying here or there?
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9:06 - 9:07Disjunctive conjunction.
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9:08 - 9:15When we hear a story told by someone,
are we listening only to the story? -
9:15 - 9:21Or is our listening influenced by our
perception, prejudices and representation? -
9:21 - 9:24Put here three things.
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9:24 - 9:26Here there are the facts of life.
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9:26 - 9:30A football match, a war, an act of love.
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9:30 - 9:31Here is my perception.
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9:31 - 9:34Here there is what I say
to people about that topic. -
9:34 - 9:38There are people confusing
these three levels. -
9:39 - 9:43There are people who believe
they always think the truth. -
9:43 - 9:46There are people who think
they always tell the truth. -
9:46 - 9:50There are people who think
they always say what they think. -
9:50 - 9:52Many people say:
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9:52 - 9:54"I don't mince my words.
I say everything I think." -
9:55 - 9:58If you are like this,
you have to go to a Pacific Island, -
9:58 - 10:00throw away the keys
and don't cause trouble. -
10:00 - 10:04When you were about six months old
you could say everything you thought. -
10:04 - 10:09Think about six-months-old children.
After their meal, they are taken, -
10:09 - 10:10put on the shoulders, and cuddled.
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10:10 - 10:12Mum gives little pats on their back.
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10:13 - 10:17By doing so, the child
can show the world his happiness. -
10:17 - 10:22And when he shows it, his mother
says:"My sweetie, love you burped." -
10:22 - 10:24By the time this child is 14,
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10:24 - 10:29he should have filtered
what is said, shown, or heard. -
10:29 - 10:33So, let's distinguish the reality
from thoughts about reality -
10:33 - 10:36from its linguistic representation.
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10:36 - 10:39Let's weigh up these three levels.
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10:39 - 10:43"L" stands for
logic and logical structures. -
10:43 - 10:45What is logical analysis?
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10:45 - 10:49It is the analysis of the sequences
of words in a sentence. -
10:49 - 10:54One day, in a convent,
a novice asked his prior: -
10:54 - 10:58"Father, can I smoke while I pray?"
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10:58 - 11:02He was reprimanded
as the worst of sinners. -
11:02 - 11:05After a minute, another novice
asked the same prior: -
11:05 - 11:08"Father, can I pray while I smoke?"
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11:08 - 11:11He was praised for his devotion.
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11:11 - 11:13This story may seem stupid
but smoking while praying -
11:13 - 11:17and praying while smoking
is totally the same thing. -
11:18 - 11:21The difference lies in
the perception of the other. -
11:21 - 11:26There are people who, before telling you
something, have to explain their premises. -
11:26 - 11:27Those who say:
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11:27 - 11:28"I have something to tell you.
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11:28 - 11:30But let me explain my premise."
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11:30 - 11:32I don't care. Tell me the fact!
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11:32 - 11:34Or vice versa.
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11:34 - 11:36There are people who call a spade a spade.
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11:36 - 11:39You may need to know
the causes of that effect. -
11:39 - 11:41If a doctor says to his patient:
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11:41 - 11:45"Mr. Mario, Giovanni whatever
the situation is pretty serious. -
11:45 - 11:47Luckily we got in in time.
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11:47 - 11:50We are optimistic for the future."
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11:50 - 11:54Or he says: "Luckily we got it
in time, we are optimistic, -
11:54 - 11:56but the situation is pretty serious."
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11:56 - 11:59It's the same reality, isn't it?
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11:59 - 12:01What changes is the perception.
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12:01 - 12:06So, the logical sequences:
cause and effect; effect and cause. -
12:06 - 12:08Past, present, future;
future, past, present -
12:08 - 12:13are the meaning that people give
to what they have to say. -
12:13 - 12:17Let's listen to them, without judging.
Let' recognize and appreciate them. -
12:18 - 12:20Second to last exercise.
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12:20 - 12:22Listen to what lies between the words.
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12:22 - 12:24"T" stands for "trans".
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12:24 - 12:26Trans means "beyond."
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12:26 - 12:28Between and beyond the words.
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12:28 - 12:35For example, mums are very good
at reading between the words. -
12:35 - 12:38"How was school today?" "Mmm."
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12:38 - 12:41So, from that, "Mmmh",
mum starts digging up. -
12:42 - 12:46Does "Mmmh" mean that you failed,
that you skipped it, -
12:46 - 12:48or that the teacher wasn't at school?
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12:48 - 12:52In their investigations,
mums are moved by love. -
12:52 - 12:59Detectives investigate too,
but with police and coercive methods. -
12:59 - 13:01Psychoanalysts investigate too.
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13:01 - 13:05We should go through and beneath
the words in order to listen. -
13:05 - 13:09We could help the speaker
by asking good questions. -
13:09 - 13:11Let's take the sentence: "I'm scared."
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13:11 - 13:15What scares you?
How long have you been scared? -
13:15 - 13:16How are you scared?
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13:16 - 13:17In which way?
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13:17 - 13:19Where did you feel that you were scared?
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13:19 - 13:23The question: "Why?"
is not always a good question. -
13:23 - 13:25"I don't want to go out with you." "Why?"
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13:25 - 13:27"Because I said no!"
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13:27 - 13:30The question: "Why?"
often provokes a closure. -
13:30 - 13:34By facing the issue less directly,
you could go under, inside, around words. -
13:34 - 13:37This way, you can bring
something important to light. -
13:37 - 13:39And now there is the last point.
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13:39 - 13:45The "O" of "ascolto" requires
doing a weird thing. -
13:45 - 13:48I ask you to read
this sentence backwards. -
13:48 - 13:52It is like when, landing after a flight,
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13:52 - 13:55you think about the journey
and about its starting point. -
13:55 - 13:56Read it backwards.
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13:56 - 13:58"Once upon a time."
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13:58 - 14:00"C'era una volta."
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14:00 - 14:02"il était une fois."
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14:02 - 14:03"Había una vez."
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14:03 - 14:06Almost all tales start in this way,
with this formula. -
14:06 - 14:12It is the narration of the narrations.
Tales are stories par excellence. -
14:12 - 14:14And people tell stories.
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14:14 - 14:18We listen to the stories of people.
They are not just the facts. -
14:18 - 14:22They represent the value
that people give to that fact. -
14:22 - 14:25If I had to tell you something
about this pen, -
14:25 - 14:28I would tell you that
it's plastic with some metal. -
14:28 - 14:30I would tell you the fact.
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14:30 - 14:33If I told you what this pen
represents for me, -
14:33 - 14:36you could get an idea
from the fact that I keep it here, -
14:36 - 14:38in my pocket not in my pencil case.
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14:38 - 14:41It's its value, it's the person
who gave it to me. -
14:41 - 14:42It's the value I give to it.
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14:42 - 14:46People don't make love or war for facts,
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14:46 - 14:50but for the meaning
they give to these facts. -
14:50 - 14:51So ...
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14:51 - 14:55there are people who tell you about
their medical exam, -
14:55 - 14:58or about the film or TED they watched.
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14:58 - 15:02Other people tell you stories
that they would like to live someday. -
15:02 - 15:04"I have a dream."
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15:04 - 15:07Martin Luther King described his goal
in the form of a dream. -
15:07 - 15:09A dream is a story in the past.
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15:09 - 15:14The power to move between past and present
is a typical feature of all stories. -
15:14 - 15:18Let's listen to
people's stories with love. -
15:18 - 15:22This is the biggest act of love
we can perform to someone. -
15:22 - 15:25Just listen to their stories.
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15:25 - 15:29And given that I have the sensation
that you've listened to me. -
15:29 - 15:31Just let me say:
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15:32 - 15:33Thank you.
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15:33 - 15:35(Applause)
- Title:
- Seven exercises to listen in an effective way | Alessandro Lucchini | TEDxTrento
- Description:
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"If the gods gave us two ears and one mouth," said a philosopher, "there will be a reason." Yet we study talking, writing, telephoning. And we take it for granted that to listen to it just to stay there. Instead, listening is challenging. It's just like flying: you have to prepare yourself, lift, focus, move around. You need the will to change.
Words workman. Born in Milan in 1959, linguist, researcher and communication coach. He has worked in journalism and advertising for years, has written books on language use, holds courses for companies and institutions, with a specialization in the medical field. He teaches at IULM in Milan and at the 'Scuola Superiore Sant'Anna' in Pisa. He loves people, democracy, strain, karate, singing, going to the mountains.
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- Italian
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