A tale of two political systems
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0:01 - 0:02Good morning.
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0:02 - 0:07My name is Eric Li, and I was born here.
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0:07 - 0:10But no, I wasn't born there.
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0:10 - 0:12This was where I was born:
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0:12 - 0:16Shanghai, at the height
of the Cultural Revolution. -
0:16 - 0:18My grandmother tells me that she heard
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0:18 - 0:21the sound of gunfire
along with my first cries. -
0:21 - 0:25When I was growing up, I was told a story
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0:25 - 0:28that explained all I ever
needed to know about humanity. -
0:29 - 0:30It went like this.
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0:30 - 0:33All human societies develop
in linear progression, -
0:33 - 0:37beginning with primitive
society, then slave society, -
0:37 - 0:40feudalism, capitalism, socialism,
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0:40 - 0:42and finally, guess where we end up?
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0:42 - 0:45Communism!
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0:45 - 0:49Sooner or later, all of humanity,
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0:49 - 0:52regardless of culture,
language, nationality, -
0:52 - 0:54will arrive at this final stage
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0:54 - 0:57of political and social development.
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0:57 - 0:59The entire world's peoples will be unified
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0:59 - 1:01in this paradise on Earth
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1:01 - 1:04and live happily ever after.
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1:04 - 1:06But before we get there, we're engaged
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1:06 - 1:09in a struggle between good and evil,
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1:09 - 1:12the good of socialism
against the evil of capitalism, -
1:12 - 1:14and the good shall triumph.
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1:14 - 1:16That, of course, was the meta-narrative
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1:16 - 1:19distilled from the theories of Karl Marx.
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1:19 - 1:22And the Chinese bought it.
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1:22 - 1:25We were taught that grand
story day in and day out. -
1:25 - 1:27It became part of us,
and we believed in it. -
1:27 - 1:30The story was a bestseller.
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1:30 - 1:32About one third of the entire
world's population -
1:32 - 1:34lived under that meta-narrative.
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1:34 - 1:37Then, the world changed overnight.
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1:37 - 1:41As for me, disillusioned
by the failed religion of my youth, -
1:41 - 1:44I went to America and became
a Berkeley hippie. -
1:44 - 1:47(Laughter)
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1:47 - 1:51Now, as I was coming of age,
something else happened. -
1:51 - 1:53As if one big story wasn't enough,
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1:53 - 1:55I was told another one.
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1:55 - 1:59This one was just as grand.
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1:59 - 2:01It also claims that all human societies
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2:01 - 2:05develop in a linear progression
towards a singular end. -
2:05 - 2:07This one went as follows:
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2:07 - 2:10All societies, regardless of culture,
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2:10 - 2:12be it Christian, Muslim, Confucian,
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2:12 - 2:15must progress from traditional societies
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2:15 - 2:18in which groups are the basic units
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2:18 - 2:21to modern societies
in which atomized individuals -
2:21 - 2:22are the sovereign units,
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2:22 - 2:26and all these individuals
are, by definition, rational, -
2:26 - 2:28and they all want one thing:
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2:28 - 2:31the vote.
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2:31 - 2:33Because they are all rational,
once given the vote, -
2:33 - 2:35they produce good government
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2:35 - 2:37and live happily ever after.
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2:37 - 2:40Paradise on Earth, again.
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2:40 - 2:43Sooner or later, electoral
democracy will be -
2:43 - 2:47the only political system
for all countries and all peoples, -
2:47 - 2:50with a free market to make them all rich.
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2:50 - 2:53But before we get there,
we're engaged in a struggle -
2:53 - 2:55between good and evil.
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2:55 - 2:56(Laughter)
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2:56 - 2:59The good belongs to those
who are democracies -
2:59 - 3:01and are charged with a mission
of spreading it -
3:01 - 3:04around the globe, sometimes by force,
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3:04 - 3:07against the evil of those
who do not hold elections. -
3:07 - 3:09(Video) George H.W. Bush:
A new world order... -
3:09 - 3:12(Video) George W. Bush:...
ending tyranny in our world... -
3:12 - 3:14(Video) Barack Obama:...
a single standard for all -
3:14 - 3:17who would hold power.
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3:17 - 3:19Eric X. Li: Now --
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3:19 - 3:26(Laughter) (Applause)
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3:26 - 3:30This story also became a bestseller.
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3:30 - 3:32According to Freedom House,
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3:32 - 3:35the number of democracies
went from 45 in 1970 -
3:35 - 3:38to 115 in 2010.
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3:38 - 3:41In the last 20 years,
Western elites tirelessly -
3:41 - 3:44trotted around the globe
selling this prospectus: -
3:44 - 3:47Multiple parties fight for political power
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3:47 - 3:48and everyone voting on them
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3:48 - 3:50is the only path to salvation
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3:50 - 3:53to the long-suffering developing world.
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3:53 - 3:56Those who buy the prospectus
are destined for success. -
3:56 - 3:59Those who do not are doomed to fail.
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3:59 - 4:03But this time, the Chinese didn't buy it.
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4:03 - 4:05Fool me once...
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4:05 - 4:10(Laughter)
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4:10 - 4:12The rest is history.
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4:12 - 4:14In just 30 years, China went from
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4:14 - 4:16one of the poorest agricultural
countries in the world -
4:16 - 4:18to its second-largest economy.
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4:18 - 4:20Six hundred fifty million people
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4:20 - 4:22were lifted out of poverty.
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4:22 - 4:25Eighty percent of the entire
world's poverty alleviation -
4:25 - 4:27during that period happened in China.
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4:27 - 4:30In other words, all the new
and old democracies -
4:30 - 4:33put together amounted to a mere fraction
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4:33 - 4:38of what a single, one-party
state did without voting. -
4:38 - 4:41See, I grew up on this stuff: food stamps.
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4:41 - 4:43Meat was rationed to a few hundred grams
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4:43 - 4:46per person per month at one point.
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4:46 - 4:50Needless to say, I ate
all my grandmother's portions. -
4:50 - 4:54So I asked myself, what's wrong
with this picture? -
4:54 - 4:56Here I am in my hometown,
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4:56 - 4:57my business growing leaps and bounds.
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4:57 - 5:00Entrepreneurs are starting
companies every day. -
5:00 - 5:03Middle class is expanding
in speed and scale -
5:03 - 5:05unprecedented in human history.
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5:05 - 5:07Yet, according to the grand story,
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5:07 - 5:10none of this should be happening.
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5:10 - 5:13So I went and did the only thing I could.
I studied it. -
5:13 - 5:15Yes, China is a one-party state
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5:15 - 5:19run by the Chinese Communist
Party, the Party, -
5:19 - 5:21and they don't hold elections.
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5:21 - 5:24Three assumptions are made
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5:24 - 5:26by the dominant political
theories of our time. -
5:26 - 5:29Such a system is operationally rigid,
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5:29 - 5:33politically closed,
and morally illegitimate. -
5:33 - 5:36Well, the assumptions are wrong.
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5:36 - 5:38The opposites are true.
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5:38 - 5:42Adaptability, meritocracy, and legitimacy
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5:42 - 5:44are the three defining characteristics
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5:44 - 5:46of China's one-party system.
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5:46 - 5:48Now, most political
scientists will tell us -
5:48 - 5:51that a one-party system
is inherently incapable -
5:51 - 5:53of self-correction.
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5:53 - 5:56It won't last long
because it cannot adapt. -
5:56 - 5:57Now here are the facts.
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5:57 - 6:01In 64 years of running the largest
country in the world, -
6:01 - 6:04the range of the Party's policies
has been wider -
6:04 - 6:06than any other country in recent memory,
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6:06 - 6:10from radical land collectivization
to the Great Leap Forward, -
6:10 - 6:13then privatization of farmland,
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6:13 - 6:15then the Cultural Revolution,
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6:15 - 6:18then Deng Xiaoping's market reform,
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6:18 - 6:21then successor Jiang Zemin
took the giant political step -
6:21 - 6:25of opening up Party membership
to private businesspeople, -
6:25 - 6:28something unimaginable during Mao's rule.
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6:28 - 6:31So the Party self-corrects
in rather dramatic fashions. -
6:32 - 6:34Institutionally, new rules get enacted
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6:34 - 6:37to correct previous dysfunctions.
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6:37 - 6:39For example, term limits.
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6:39 - 6:41Political leaders used to retain
their positions for life, -
6:41 - 6:43and they used that to accumulate power
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6:43 - 6:45and perpetuate their rules.
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6:45 - 6:47Mao was the father of modern China,
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6:47 - 6:50yet his prolonged rule led
to disastrous mistakes. -
6:50 - 6:52So the Party instituted term limits
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6:52 - 6:56with mandatory retirement age of 68 to 70.
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6:56 - 6:58One thing we often hear is,
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6:58 - 7:01"Political reforms have lagged
far behind economic reforms," -
7:01 - 7:04and "China is in dire need
of political reform." -
7:04 - 7:07But this claim is a rhetorical trap
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7:07 - 7:10hidden behind a political bias.
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7:10 - 7:13See, some have decided a priori
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7:13 - 7:14what kinds of changes they want to see,
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7:14 - 7:18and only such changes can
be called political reform. -
7:18 - 7:21The truth is, political
reforms have never stopped. -
7:21 - 7:24Compared with 30 years ago,
20 years, even 10 years ago, -
7:24 - 7:27every aspect of Chinese society,
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7:27 - 7:27how the country is governed,
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7:28 - 7:30from the most local level
to the highest center, -
7:30 - 7:32are unrecognizable today.
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7:32 - 7:35Now such changes are simply not possible
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7:35 - 7:39without political reforms
of the most fundamental kind. -
7:39 - 7:41Now I would venture to suggest the Party
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7:41 - 7:45is the world's leading
expert in political reform. -
7:45 - 7:48The second assumption
is that in a one-party state, -
7:48 - 7:51power gets concentrated
in the hands of the few, -
7:51 - 7:54and bad governance and corruption follow.
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7:54 - 7:56Indeed, corruption is a big problem,
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7:56 - 7:58but let's first look
at the larger context. -
7:58 - 8:00Now, this may be counterintuitive to you.
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8:00 - 8:03The Party happens to be
one of the most meritocratic -
8:03 - 8:06political institutions in the world today.
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8:06 - 8:10China's highest ruling body,
the Politburo, has 25 members. -
8:10 - 8:12In the most recent one, only five of them
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8:12 - 8:16came from a background of privilege,
so-called princelings. -
8:16 - 8:19The other 20, including the president
and the premier, -
8:19 - 8:21came from entirely ordinary backgrounds.
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8:21 - 8:24In the larger central
committee of 300 or more, -
8:24 - 8:26the percentage of those who were born
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8:26 - 8:28into power and wealth was even smaller.
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8:28 - 8:31The vast majority
of senior Chinese leaders -
8:31 - 8:33worked and competed their way to the top.
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8:33 - 8:36Compare that with the ruling elites
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8:36 - 8:38in both developed
and developing countries, -
8:38 - 8:40I think you'll find the Party
being near the top -
8:40 - 8:43in upward mobility.
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8:43 - 8:45The question then is,
how could that be possible -
8:45 - 8:49in a system run by one party?
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8:49 - 8:51Now we come to a powerful
political institution, -
8:51 - 8:53little-known to Westerners:
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8:53 - 8:56the Party's Organization Department.
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8:56 - 8:58The department functions like a giant
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8:58 - 9:00human resource engine
that would be the envy -
9:00 - 9:04of even some of the most successful
corporations. -
9:04 - 9:06It operates a rotating pyramid
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9:06 - 9:07made up of three components:
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9:07 - 9:10civil service, state-owned enterprises,
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9:10 - 9:12and social organizations like a university
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9:12 - 9:14or a community program.
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9:14 - 9:17They form separate
yet integrated career paths -
9:17 - 9:19for Chinese officials.
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9:19 - 9:22They recruit college grads
into entry-level positions -
9:22 - 9:24in all three tracks,
and they start from the bottom, -
9:24 - 9:26called "keyuan" [clerk].
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9:26 - 9:27Then they could get promoted
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9:27 - 9:32through four increasingly elite ranks:
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9:32 - 9:36fuke [deputy section manager], ke [section manager], fuchu
[deputy division manager], and chu [division manger]. -
9:36 - 9:38Now these are not moves
from "Karate Kid," okay? -
9:38 - 9:41It's serious business.
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9:41 - 9:44The range of positions is wide,
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9:44 - 9:45from running health care in a village
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9:46 - 9:48to foreign investment in a city district
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9:48 - 9:50to manager in a company.
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9:50 - 9:52Once a year, the department
reviews their performance. -
9:52 - 9:55They interview
their superiors, their peers, -
9:55 - 9:57their subordinates. They vet
their personal conduct. -
9:57 - 9:59They conduct public opinion surveys.
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9:59 - 10:01Then they promote the winners.
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10:01 - 10:03Throughout their careers, these cadres
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10:03 - 10:06can move
through and out of all three tracks. -
10:06 - 10:09Over time, the good ones move
beyond the four base levels -
10:09 - 10:12to the fuju [deputy bureau chief]
and ju [bureau chief] levels. -
10:12 - 10:14There, they enter high officialdom.
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10:14 - 10:17By that point, a typical
assignment will be -
10:17 - 10:19to manage a district
with a population in the millions -
10:20 - 10:23or a company with hundreds
of millions of dollars in revenue. -
10:23 - 10:27Just to show you
how competitive the system is, -
10:27 - 10:31in 2012, there were 900,000
fuke and ke levels, -
10:31 - 10:33600,000 fuchu and chu levels,
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10:34 - 10:37and only 40,000 fuju and ju levels.
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10:37 - 10:39After the ju levels,
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10:39 - 10:41the best few move further
up several more ranks, -
10:41 - 10:44and eventually make it
to the Central Committee. -
10:44 - 10:47The process takes two to three decades.
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10:47 - 10:50Does patronage play a role?
Yes, of course. -
10:50 - 10:54But merit remains the fundamental driver.
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10:54 - 10:56In essence, the Organization
Department runs -
10:56 - 10:59a modernized version
of China's centuries-old -
10:59 - 11:01mentoring system.
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11:01 - 11:03China's new president, Xi Jinping,
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11:03 - 11:06is the son of a former leader,
which is very unusual, -
11:06 - 11:08first of his kind to make the top job.
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11:08 - 11:11Even for him, the career took 30 years.
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11:11 - 11:13He started as a village manager,
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11:13 - 11:15and by the time he entered the Politburo,
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11:15 - 11:17he had managed areas
with a total population -
11:17 - 11:18of 150 million people
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11:18 - 11:23and combined GDPs of 1.5 trillion U.S.
dollars. -
11:23 - 11:25Now, please don't get me wrong, okay?
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11:25 - 11:28This is not a put-down of anyone.
It's just a statement of fact. -
11:28 - 11:32George W. Bush, remember him?
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11:32 - 11:35This is not a put-down.
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11:35 - 11:35(Laughter)
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11:35 - 11:38Before becoming governor of Texas,
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11:38 - 11:41or Barack Obama
before running for president, -
11:41 - 11:44could not make even a small county manager
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11:44 - 11:46in China's system.
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11:46 - 11:48Winston Churchill once said that democracy
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11:48 - 11:50is a terrible system
except for all the rest. -
11:50 - 11:54Well, apparently he hadn't heard
of the Organization Department. -
11:54 - 11:57Now, Westerners always assume that
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11:57 - 12:00multi-party election
with universal suffrage -
12:00 - 12:03is the only source
of political legitimacy. -
12:03 - 12:06I was asked once, "The Party
wasn't voted in by election. -
12:06 - 12:08Where is the source of legitimacy?"
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12:09 - 12:12I said, "How about competency?"
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12:12 - 12:14We all know the facts.
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12:14 - 12:15In 1949, when the Party took power,
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12:15 - 12:19China was mired in civil wars,
dismembered by foreign aggression, -
12:19 - 12:23average life expectancy
at that time, 41 years old. -
12:23 - 12:26Today, it's the second largest
economy in the world, -
12:26 - 12:29an industrial powerhouse,
and its people live -
12:29 - 12:31in increasing prosperity.
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12:31 - 12:34Pew Research polls Chinese
public attitudes, -
12:34 - 12:36and here are the numbers in recent years.
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12:36 - 12:40Satisfaction with the direction
of the country: 85 percent. -
12:40 - 12:43Those who think they're better
off than five years ago: -
12:43 - 12:4570 percent.
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12:45 - 12:47Those who expect the future to be better:
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12:47 - 12:50a whopping 82 percent.
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12:50 - 12:54Financial Times polls
global youth attitudes, -
12:54 - 12:57and these numbers, brand new,
just came from last week. -
12:57 - 13:00Ninety-three percent
of China's Generation Y -
13:00 - 13:02are optimistic
about their country's future. -
13:02 - 13:08Now, if this is not legitimacy,
I'm not sure what is. -
13:08 - 13:11In contrast, most electoral
democracies around the world -
13:11 - 13:13are suffering from dismal performance.
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13:14 - 13:16I don't need to elaborate
for this audience -
13:16 - 13:20how dysfunctional it is,
from Washington to European capitals. -
13:20 - 13:23With a few exceptions, the vast number
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13:23 - 13:26of developing countries that have
adopted electoral regimes -
13:26 - 13:30are still suffering
from poverty and civil strife. -
13:30 - 13:32Governments get elected,
and then they fall -
13:32 - 13:34below 50 percent approval in a few months
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13:34 - 13:38and stay there and get worse
until the next election. -
13:38 - 13:40Democracy is becoming a perpetual cycle
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13:40 - 13:43of elect and regret.
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13:43 - 13:46At this rate, I'm afraid it is democracy,
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13:46 - 13:49not China's one-party
system, that is in danger -
13:49 - 13:51of losing legitimacy.
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13:51 - 13:54Now, I don't want to create
the misimpression -
13:54 - 13:56that China's hunky-dory, on the way
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13:56 - 13:58to some kind of superpowerdom.
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13:58 - 14:01The country faces enormous challenges.
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14:01 - 14:03The social and economic problems that come
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14:03 - 14:07with wrenching change
like this are mind-boggling. -
14:07 - 14:10Pollution is one. Food safety.
Population issues. -
14:10 - 14:14On the political front, the worst
problem is corruption. -
14:14 - 14:17Corruption is widespread
and undermines the system -
14:17 - 14:19and its moral legitimacy.
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14:19 - 14:22But most analysts misdiagnose the disease.
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14:22 - 14:25They say that corruption is the result
of the one-party system, -
14:25 - 14:26and therefore, in order to cure it,
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14:26 - 14:28you have to do away
with the entire system. -
14:28 - 14:31But a more careful look
would tell us otherwise. -
14:31 - 14:34Transparency International ranks China
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14:34 - 14:38between 70 and 80 in recent
years among 170 countries, -
14:38 - 14:40and it's been moving up.
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14:40 - 14:42India, the largest democracy in the world,
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14:42 - 14:4494 and dropping.
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14:44 - 14:47For the hundred or so countries
that are ranked below China, -
14:47 - 14:50more than half of them
are electoral democracies. -
14:50 - 14:53So if election is the panacea
for corruption, -
14:53 - 14:56how come these countries can't fix it?
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14:56 - 15:00Now, I'm a venture capitalist.
I make bets. -
15:00 - 15:02It wouldn't be fair
to end this talk without -
15:02 - 15:05putting myself on the line
and making some predictions. -
15:05 - 15:07So here they are.
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15:07 - 15:09In the next 10 years, China
will surpass the U.S. -
15:09 - 15:12and become the largest
economy in the world. -
15:12 - 15:14Income per capita will be near the top
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15:14 - 15:16of all developing countries.
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15:16 - 15:18Corruption will be curbed,
but not eliminated, -
15:18 - 15:21and China will move up 10 to 20 notches
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15:21 - 15:24to above 60 in T.I. ranking.
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15:24 - 15:27Economic reform will accelerate,
political reform will continue, -
15:27 - 15:30and the one-party system will hold firm.
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15:30 - 15:33We live in the dusk of an era.
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15:33 - 15:36Meta-narratives that make universal claims
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15:36 - 15:38failed us in the 20th century
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15:38 - 15:41and are failing us in the 21st.
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15:41 - 15:44Meta-narrative is the cancer
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15:44 - 15:47that is killing democracy from the inside.
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15:47 - 15:48Now, I want to clarify something.
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15:48 - 15:51I'm not here to make
an indictment of democracy. -
15:51 - 15:54On the contrary, I think
democracy contributed -
15:54 - 15:57to the rise of the West
and the creation of the modern world. -
15:57 - 16:00It is the universal claim
that many Western elites -
16:00 - 16:03are making about their political
system, the hubris, -
16:03 - 16:07that is at the heart
of the West's current ills. -
16:07 - 16:09If they would spend
just a little less time -
16:09 - 16:11on trying to force their way onto others,
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16:11 - 16:15and a little bit more
on political reform at home, -
16:15 - 16:18they might give their democracy
a better chance. -
16:18 - 16:20China's political model
will never supplant -
16:20 - 16:23electoral democracy,
because unlike the latter, -
16:23 - 16:25it doesn't pretend to be universal.
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16:25 - 16:29It cannot be exported. But
that is the point precisely. -
16:29 - 16:31The significance of China's example
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16:31 - 16:33is not that it provides an alternative,
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16:33 - 16:38but the demonstration
that alternatives exist. -
16:38 - 16:41Let us draw to a close this
era of meta-narratives. -
16:41 - 16:45Communism and democracy may
both be laudable ideals, -
16:45 - 16:49but the era of their dogmatic
universalism is over. -
16:49 - 16:51Let us stop telling
people and our children -
16:51 - 16:53there's only one way to govern ourselves
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16:53 - 16:55and a singular future towards which
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16:55 - 16:58all societies must evolve.
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16:58 - 17:00It is wrong. It is irresponsible.
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17:00 - 17:05And worst of all, it is boring.
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17:05 - 17:09Let universality make way for plurality.
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17:09 - 17:12Perhaps a more interesting age is upon us.
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17:12 - 17:14Are we brave enough to welcome it?
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17:14 - 17:15Thank you.
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17:15 - 17:31(Applause)
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17:31 - 17:35Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thanks.
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17:35 - 17:37Bruno Giussani: Eric, stay
with me for a couple of minutes, -
17:37 - 17:40because I want to ask you
a couple of questions. -
17:40 - 17:43I think many here, and in general
in Western countries, -
17:43 - 17:47would agree with your statement
about analysis -
17:47 - 17:49of democratic systems
becoming dysfunctional, -
17:49 - 17:52but at the same time,
many would kind of find -
17:52 - 17:56unsettling the thought
that there is an unelected -
17:56 - 18:02authority that, without any form
of oversight or consultation, -
18:02 - 18:05decides what the national interest is.
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18:05 - 18:08What is the mechanism in the Chinese model
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18:08 - 18:10that allows people to say, actually,
-
18:10 - 18:12the national interest
as you defined it is wrong? -
18:12 - 18:16EXL: You know, Frank Fukuyama,
the political scientist, -
18:16 - 18:20called the Chinese system
"responsive authoritarianism." -
18:20 - 18:23It's not exactly right,
but I think it comes close. -
18:23 - 18:27So I know the largest public
opinion survey company -
18:27 - 18:29in China, okay?
-
18:29 - 18:32Do you know who their biggest client is?
-
18:32 - 18:34The Chinese government.
-
18:34 - 18:36Not just from the central government,
-
18:36 - 18:38the city government,
the provincial government, -
18:38 - 18:40to the most local neighborhood districts.
-
18:40 - 18:42They conduct surveys all the time.
-
18:42 - 18:44Are you happy with the garbage collection?
-
18:44 - 18:47Are you happy with the general
direction of the country? -
18:47 - 18:50So there is, in China, there
is a different kind of mechanism -
18:50 - 18:53to be responsive to the demands
and the thinking of the people. -
18:53 - 18:57My point is, I think we should get unstuck
-
18:57 - 18:59from the thinking
that there's only one political system -- -
18:59 - 19:01election, election, election --
-
19:01 - 19:02that could make it responsive.
-
19:02 - 19:04I'm not sure, actually, elections produce
-
19:04 - 19:07responsive government
anymore in the world. -
19:07 - 19:12(Applause)
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19:12 - 19:13BG: Many seem to agree.
-
19:13 - 19:16One of the features of a democratic system
-
19:16 - 19:19is a space for civil
society to express itself. -
19:19 - 19:21And you have shown figures
about the support -
19:21 - 19:24that the government
and the authorities have in China. -
19:24 - 19:28But then you've just
mentioned other elements -
19:28 - 19:30like, you know, big challenges,
and there are, of course, -
19:30 - 19:33a lot of other data that go
in a different direction: -
19:33 - 19:35tens of thousands of unrests and protests
-
19:35 - 19:38and environmental protests, etc.
-
19:38 - 19:41So you seem to suggest the Chinese model
-
19:41 - 19:43doesn't have a space outside of the Party
-
19:43 - 19:46for civil society to express itself.
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19:46 - 19:50EXL: There's a vibrant
civil society in China, -
19:50 - 19:51whether it's environment or what-have-you.
-
19:51 - 19:54But it's different. You
wouldn't recognize it. -
19:54 - 19:57Because, by Western definitions,
a so-called civil society -
19:57 - 19:59has to be separate or even in opposition
-
19:59 - 20:01to the political system,
-
20:01 - 20:06but that concept is alien
for Chinese culture. -
20:06 - 20:08For thousands of years,
you have civil society, -
20:08 - 20:11yet they are consistent and coherent
-
20:11 - 20:14and part of a political order, and I think
-
20:14 - 20:17it's a big cultural difference.
-
20:17 - 20:21BG: Eric, thank you for sharing
this with TED. EXL: Thank you.
- Title:
- A tale of two political systems
- Speaker:
- Eric X. Li
- Description:
-
It's a standard assumption in the West: As a society progresses, it eventually becomes a capitalist, multi-party democracy. Right? Eric X. Li, a Chinese investor and political scientist, begs to differ. In this provocative, boundary-pushing talk, he asks his audience to consider that there's more than one way to run a successful modern nation.
- Video Language:
- English
- Team:
closed TED
- Project:
- TEDTalks
- Duration:
- 20:37
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