Gifts of wounds and personality disorders traits | Fiann Paul | TEDxBend
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0:20 - 0:22"Life's blade
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0:22 - 0:24Deep cuts
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0:24 - 0:26Many to burden and dust
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0:26 - 0:28Some into diamonds"
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0:28 - 0:30I wrote this haiku,
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0:30 - 0:32and I would like it to indicate
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0:32 - 0:35that we know a lot about the burden
of the wounds that we carry -
0:35 - 0:37and how we struggle with them.
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0:37 - 0:38Personality disorders
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0:38 - 0:42from a social point of view
are perceived as something dysfunctional. -
0:42 - 0:45But I would like to focus
on the gifts of wounds -
0:45 - 0:47and personality disorders traits
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0:47 - 0:50that I metaphorically
related to as diamonds. -
0:50 - 0:52And I would like to take us on a journey
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0:52 - 0:55to find out that maybe
some of these traits -
0:55 - 0:57set someone on a mission to the moon
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0:57 - 1:02or on a mission to liberate our planet
from the trap of fossil fuels. -
1:03 - 1:06I am an explorer
and an endurance athlete, -
1:06 - 1:07and for a lengthy amount of time,
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1:07 - 1:10I need to endure environments
that look like this. -
1:11 - 1:14When I started organizing
my own expeditions, -
1:14 - 1:17I learned what kind
of personality traits I am looking for -
1:17 - 1:21in order to identify the best candidate
for a team member, -
1:21 - 1:25and I was surprised to find out later,
when I learned psychology, -
1:25 - 1:30that all these traits are listed there
on the maps of personality disorders. -
1:30 - 1:32(Laughter)
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1:34 - 1:38So I realized that I'm looking
for immunity to hardship, -
1:38 - 1:40compulsion to perform,
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1:40 - 1:42preference of solitary activities,
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1:42 - 1:44master at self-preservation,
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1:44 - 1:47so I basically realized
that I am looking for crazy people -
1:47 - 1:48(Laughter)
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1:49 - 1:51and that I am cultivating
craziness myself, -
1:52 - 1:54but to be precise: crazy enough,
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1:54 - 1:58because today, we don't talk anymore
about disorders in the binary mode, -
1:58 - 2:00as in we have it or we don't have it,
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2:00 - 2:03but we are talking
about the continuum of the disorder -
2:03 - 2:04and the traits of the disorder,
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2:04 - 2:07and we all are somewhere
on this continuum. -
2:08 - 2:11I decided to highlight here
the disorders that offer some gifts - -
2:11 - 2:12not all of them do,
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2:12 - 2:14and not everybody
manages to harvest them, -
2:14 - 2:15but many do -
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2:15 - 2:18and I will focus on these today.
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2:19 - 2:24I dare to consider that these traits
were strictly linked to endurance hunting, -
2:24 - 2:25and possibly,
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2:25 - 2:29from the evolutionary perspective,
genetically reinforces preferable ones. -
2:29 - 2:30Endurance hunting
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2:30 - 2:34is not only related to the origin
of the endurance performance of humankind, -
2:34 - 2:35but in my opinion,
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2:35 - 2:40it is also essentially related
to the origin of the humankind itself. -
2:40 - 2:43Endurance is the only aspect
of physical performance -
2:43 - 2:46where humans can outperform
all the other land mammals - -
2:46 - 2:50not speed, not strength,
not explosive power, -
2:50 - 2:51but endurance.
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2:51 - 2:53Physicality apart,
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2:53 - 2:57I decided to investigate the most
contributing individuals in history -
2:57 - 3:02and find out whether they also
displayed any of these traits, -
3:02 - 3:03and I was shocked to find out
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3:03 - 3:05that they not only displayed
some of these traits, -
3:05 - 3:09but actually, their contributions
were based on these traits. -
3:09 - 3:12I will start with something easy to grasp:
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3:12 - 3:16A person who cuts
human hearts with a blade -
3:16 - 3:19remains calm and focused
and emotionally detached, -
3:19 - 3:21it must be a psychopath, right?
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3:21 - 3:22(Laughter)
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3:22 - 3:26Indeed - so must be a cardiac surgeon.
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3:26 - 3:27Indeed.
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3:27 - 3:31But it is a very positively
and constructively channeled psychopathy. -
3:31 - 3:35The gifts of this skill are splendid,
and the contribution to humanity is vital. -
3:35 - 3:37We need it exactly this way.
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3:38 - 3:41Psychopathy is defined
as complete shutdown of feeling function. -
3:41 - 3:44When we completely
shut down feeling function, -
3:44 - 3:46we are capable of doing pretty odd things.
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3:47 - 3:49Through deeper psychological prism,
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3:49 - 3:51I would like to introduce
the most explicit example -
3:51 - 3:54of wounds and contribution:
schizoid personalities. -
3:54 - 3:56Schizoid shouldn't be
confused with schizophrenic - -
3:56 - 3:58that's a different thing.
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3:58 - 3:59Schizoids are those
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3:59 - 4:02who not only manage to harvest
some of the gifts of wounds, -
4:02 - 4:04some of the diamonds,
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4:04 - 4:05but they're actually those
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4:05 - 4:08thanks to whom - and I would dare
to say only thanks to whom - -
4:08 - 4:10the entire civilization progressed.
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4:11 - 4:14What made them capable
of contributing so much? -
4:14 - 4:18If you think of 10
most prominent scientists, -
4:18 - 4:20nine of them will be
either schizoid personalities -
4:20 - 4:23or very high on the schizoid continuum.
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4:24 - 4:26Imagine you're playing
a role-playing game, -
4:26 - 4:29and imagine that just as it is
in a role-playing game, -
4:29 - 4:30you have certain amount of skill points
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4:30 - 4:33and you need to dispose them
into different skill bars -
4:33 - 4:39in order to constitute the character
and the attributes of the character, -
4:39 - 4:42and imagine you put all these skill points
into one particular area, -
4:42 - 4:44which in the case
of schizoid personalities -
4:44 - 4:47most frequently happens to be
intellectual capacity. -
4:47 - 4:49As a result, you have an individual
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4:49 - 4:53who is elevated to the level of genius
in one particular area -
4:53 - 4:56but is pretty miserable
in the most basic aspects of life. -
4:56 - 4:57(Laughter)
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4:57 - 5:02But as a result, this person
can climb to the top of the skill bar -
5:02 - 5:04and share the gifts
from the top of the mountain -
5:04 - 5:08that harmoniously developed individual
wouldn't be capable of climbing. -
5:08 - 5:12When we research personality disorders,
we will come across symptoms, -
5:12 - 5:14and symptoms are very incomplete
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5:14 - 5:17when it comes to understanding
the whole complexity of it. -
5:17 - 5:19What's really revealing are causes,
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5:19 - 5:22causes that expose the machinery
behind the drive of the psyche. -
5:22 - 5:24And when it comes to causes,
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5:24 - 5:26we learned that schizoid personalities
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5:26 - 5:29were wounded the deepest
among all the personality disorders -
5:29 - 5:32in the earliest
and the most critical stage -
5:32 - 5:33of personality development -
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5:33 - 5:34in the infancy.
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5:34 - 5:35And as a result,
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5:35 - 5:39the access to the most
basic aspects of life is denied. -
5:39 - 5:43If it was a role-playing game,
we will talk about adventure skills, -
5:43 - 5:46but because it is life,
we are talking about life skills, -
5:46 - 5:50such as connectedness, intimacy, bonding,
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5:51 - 5:54sexuality, physicality, emotionality.
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5:54 - 6:00And lack of possibility to initiate
development in these particular areas - -
6:00 - 6:03and they are denied
because they either triggered the wound -
6:03 - 6:04or they threatened the ego,
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6:04 - 6:06so it's not safe to go there -
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6:06 - 6:08is overcompensated to overdevelopment
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6:08 - 6:12in one area that is safe
and allows this development to happen. -
6:13 - 6:15Among many intriguing features,
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6:15 - 6:16schizoid personalities
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6:16 - 6:20often happen to choose difficulty
as preferable lifestyle -
6:20 - 6:24because it helps them
to reenact the difficulty of the origin -
6:24 - 6:28that is perceived as native
so it psychologically feels homey. -
6:29 - 6:33And if another aspect of life
is chosen for overcompensation - -
6:33 - 6:36something slightly more physical
than intellectual capacity - -
6:36 - 6:40then this person will be climbing this top
of the skill bar that I mentioned, -
6:40 - 6:41free solo.
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6:41 - 6:43(Laughter)
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6:43 - 6:47Next swing of the life blade:
OCPD personalities. -
6:48 - 6:50OCPD shouldn't be confused with OCD.
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6:50 - 6:52These are different things.
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6:52 - 6:55OCD is a person who compulsively
washes hands 30 times a day; -
6:55 - 6:58OCPD, obsessive compulsive
personality disorder, -
6:58 - 7:02is a person who is characterized
by compulsion to perform -
7:02 - 7:05and being completely and constantly
task and goal oriented -
7:05 - 7:08and having no access to leisure mode,
among many other attributes. -
7:08 - 7:12If you think of 10
most prolific entrepreneurs, -
7:12 - 7:15eight of them were
either OCPD personalities -
7:15 - 7:18or very high on the OCPD continuum.
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7:18 - 7:22What made them capable
of creating this impressive enterprises? -
7:22 - 7:28Imagine that all the love, care, passion,
time, attention, energy, focus -
7:28 - 7:30that you dedicated to your dear ones -
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7:30 - 7:33to your family, to your friends,
to your children - -
7:33 - 7:36imagine you dedicated
all to your enterprise. -
7:37 - 7:39It's an incredible amount
of passion and potential, -
7:39 - 7:44and individuals fueled by this passion
can work 16 hours a day -
7:44 - 7:47and may happen to manage
to elevate this enterprise -
7:47 - 7:50to the rank of international empire.
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7:50 - 7:53But again, causes will be
more revealing than symptoms, -
7:53 - 7:57and when we look at causes,
it is that OCPD personalities -
7:57 - 8:01deploy this strategy of being
constantly busy and work oriented -
8:01 - 8:03in order to avoid connecting
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8:03 - 8:07to something that's perceived
as frightening, painful, or difficult, -
8:07 - 8:11usually in the emotional realm
of past or presence. -
8:11 - 8:13It is a very effective strategy;
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8:13 - 8:14to put it simple,
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8:14 - 8:17if we don't want to feel
or think about something that hurts, -
8:17 - 8:19we make ourselves constantly busy.
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8:19 - 8:22Each of us must have done it
a couple of times in life, right? -
8:22 - 8:23It works.
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8:23 - 8:27But it is again very positive,
productive and constructive strategy -
8:27 - 8:32because dark version of the same strategy
deployed for the same agenda -
8:32 - 8:33could be addiction.
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8:33 - 8:34For a reason,
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8:34 - 8:36even when it comes to semantics,
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8:36 - 8:39alcoholic and workaholic
share common denominator. -
8:39 - 8:41And further into semantics,
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8:41 - 8:44the word "business" indicates
one's choice to be rather busy, -
8:44 - 8:46and it's very relevant here.
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8:47 - 8:50Next swing of the life's blade:
narcissistic personality. -
8:51 - 8:53What I've learned during my expeditions
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8:53 - 8:56is that narcissism is very well defined
by self-preservation, -
8:56 - 8:59and self-preservation is defined
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8:59 - 9:04as effort to protect oneself
from being destroyed or harmed. -
9:04 - 9:07We all need certain amount
of self-preservation. -
9:07 - 9:10That's absolutely necessary
for healthy functioning. -
9:10 - 9:13It could be labelled
as "healthy narcissism." -
9:13 - 9:15When we have no
self-preservation whatsoever, -
9:15 - 9:17as some claim they have
no narcissism whatsoever - -
9:17 - 9:18and some really do -
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9:18 - 9:21then they fall on the other end
of the continuum: -
9:21 - 9:24dependent personality traits,
deficiency of self-preservation. -
9:24 - 9:25Neither is better
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9:25 - 9:28because either you harm others
or you allow others to harm you; -
9:28 - 9:32in the end, somebody's being harmed -
the overall balance is the same. -
9:33 - 9:36As an explorer, you need
excessive amounts of self-preservation -
9:36 - 9:39to maintain yourself
for a lengthy amount of time -
9:39 - 9:42in a completely uninhabitable
environment without injury, -
9:42 - 9:43period.
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9:43 - 9:46It's an unavailable skill
for regular people. -
9:46 - 9:48But where science went wrong
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9:48 - 9:51is where it assumed
that this excessive self-preservation -
9:51 - 9:54needs to manifest itself
as excessive careful looks, -
9:54 - 9:56as it was in the case
of mythical Narcissus, -
9:56 - 9:58who fell in love with his own reflection,
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9:58 - 10:01and from where the name
"narcissism" was derived. -
10:01 - 10:02This excessive self-preservation
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10:02 - 10:06typically is a response to excessive
devaluation in the childhood, -
10:07 - 10:08among environmental factors.
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10:08 - 10:11And it's not even the only one,
but it's the main one - -
10:11 - 10:12I'm simplifying it -
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10:12 - 10:14or the common one,
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10:14 - 10:16and it can be processed
in different aspects of life, -
10:16 - 10:20such as fame, power, status, wealth.
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10:20 - 10:21And these individuals
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10:21 - 10:25are not necessarily obsessed
about their physical appearance, -
10:25 - 10:27but they properly cultivate narcissism,
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10:27 - 10:28and therefore,
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10:28 - 10:32I would like to postulate renaming
"narcissistic personality disorder" -
10:32 - 10:34into "excessive self-preservation,"
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10:34 - 10:36just like "borderline"
was properly renamed -
10:36 - 10:38into "emotional instability"
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10:38 - 10:40because it would help in two ways:
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10:40 - 10:43One, it would help
to indicate the right context -
10:43 - 10:46when it comes to grasping the complexity
and the background of it. -
10:46 - 10:49Two, it would help
to initiate the healing process -
10:49 - 10:50because it would help one understand
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10:50 - 10:55that "okay, I was excessively devalued,
and I decided to overprotect myself. -
10:55 - 10:58I raised my guards up.
I never managed to put them down. -
10:58 - 11:03I decided to attack others, abandon,
or devalue them before they devalue me -
11:03 - 11:06because these are the ways
of cultivating my self-preservation" - -
11:06 - 11:09it gives valid clues.
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11:09 - 11:12Now, I mentioned
where OCPD or schizoid people -
11:12 - 11:14contribute to our humanity,
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11:14 - 11:16but where do narcissistic
people contribute? -
11:16 - 11:19Well, most likely, they would
want to end up in the places -
11:19 - 11:21where you shine the most
and you do the least, -
11:22 - 11:24(Laughter)
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11:24 - 11:29but sometimes they also
often master, as a result, -
11:29 - 11:32the art of presenting themselves.
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11:32 - 11:35And it's pretty pleasant
to listen to them and look at them -
11:35 - 11:37because admiration
coming from the outside -
11:37 - 11:39increases self-preservation
and the power aspect, -
11:39 - 11:43and that builds an industry
called entertainment industry, -
11:43 - 11:44for example,
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11:44 - 11:47which is one of the biggest
industries that we deploy - -
11:47 - 11:51we pay for it, we need it,
and it is a valid contribution. -
11:51 - 11:54They also happen to be political leaders.
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11:54 - 11:55Sometimes personal aspirations
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11:55 - 11:58may happen to be aligned
with national ambitions, -
11:58 - 12:01often for bad, but sometimes for good.
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12:01 - 12:04They also may happen
to become entrepreneurs, -
12:04 - 12:07but nothing like OCPD entrepreneurs
looking for a compulsion for work; -
12:07 - 12:11quite the contrary, they will be
the most opportunistic entrepreneurs -
12:11 - 12:13looking for the shortest way to success,
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12:13 - 12:16they will climb the ladder
of success in the cruel way - -
12:16 - 12:18cut the corners, break rules, break law -
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12:18 - 12:23and their biographies will be interlaced
with pretty massive amounts of hedonism. -
12:24 - 12:25Lastly,
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12:25 - 12:26(Laughter)
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12:26 - 12:28the dark diamonds of narcissism:
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12:28 - 12:29income.
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12:29 - 12:31Today, narcissism
is the main pillar of fame, -
12:31 - 12:34and attention is nothing
unless it translates itself into income. -
12:34 - 12:37If you look at the most followed
Instagram celebrities, -
12:37 - 12:42they harvest ginormous income
fueled by, most of all, narcissism, -
12:42 - 12:45and this is not a gift to humanity,
but it's a gift to ourselves: -
12:45 - 12:47We all care about income; it matters.
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12:48 - 12:51Sadly, this particular dynamics
often inspire others. -
12:52 - 12:56Last swing of the life's blade:
dependent personality. -
12:56 - 12:57Analogically,
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12:57 - 13:01I would like to postulate redefining,
renaming "dependent personality" -
13:01 - 13:03into "deficiency of self-preservation"
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13:03 - 13:06because, again, it would indicate
the right direction -
13:06 - 13:08when it comes to grasping
the complexity of it. -
13:09 - 13:12Dependence may make us
assume intuitively -
13:12 - 13:16that it's related to maybe somebody
depending on another person financially, -
13:16 - 13:19which may rarely be the case,
but it's often quite the way around. -
13:19 - 13:21The dependence is very complex;
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13:21 - 13:23it's more like they depend on others
depending on them. -
13:23 - 13:25Let's keep the complexity apart.
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13:25 - 13:28What defines these personalities
deficiency of self-preservation? -
13:28 - 13:30Narcissists was someone
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13:30 - 13:35who, as a reaction to devaluing
our critical parents in the childhood, -
13:35 - 13:37took a power path
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13:37 - 13:40and decided to overcompensate,
overprotect, and fight back. -
13:40 - 13:42Dependent person decided to comply
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13:42 - 13:46and decided to give away
self-preservation to compliance path, -
13:46 - 13:50and as a result, gave away time,
energy, space, feelings - -
13:50 - 13:53in the future - also money.
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13:53 - 13:57And often a strategy
to cultivate compliance is care, -
13:57 - 14:01and this care defines
this dependent personality very well. -
14:01 - 14:02And I would like to focus
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14:02 - 14:07on the most touching and explicit example
of a personality disorder, -
14:07 - 14:11when this care is elevated
to extra orbital level -
14:11 - 14:14and we are facing the phenomenon
of parentification. -
14:14 - 14:15Parentified child is a child
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14:15 - 14:19who at the very early age
assumed parental duties -
14:19 - 14:22because it decided
to take into its little hands -
14:22 - 14:26the mess that the family environment
was objectively perceived to be -
14:26 - 14:28and take it to a better place,
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14:28 - 14:32and as a result, this child
lived the duties of three lives. -
14:32 - 14:34I say duties because there were
no pleasures left. -
14:34 - 14:37Duties of a child: continued education.
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14:37 - 14:39Duties of the head of the house:
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14:39 - 14:43make sure that the food is on the table
and that everybody is well - -
14:43 - 14:44siblings, parents -
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14:44 - 14:46not always because parents failed,
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14:46 - 14:47often so,
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14:47 - 14:49but sometimes they were sick
or, sadly, they died. -
14:49 - 14:51And lastly, duties of adult:
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14:51 - 14:53generating income, working.
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14:53 - 14:58All of it, simultaneously,
as early as even at the age of eight - -
14:58 - 14:59seriously.
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14:59 - 15:03As a result, this child develops
superhuman capacity and skills, -
15:03 - 15:08and in the future also often creates
incredible enterprises, -
15:08 - 15:12not because of, like schizoid people,
they need to validate basic birthright, -
15:12 - 15:15not like OCPD people,
because out of compulsion to perform, -
15:15 - 15:17not like narcissistic people,
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15:17 - 15:20out of need to increase the power aspect
and self-preservation, -
15:20 - 15:23but because nothing
will ever feel difficult again -
15:23 - 15:27in comparison to the hell
the childhood was. -
15:27 - 15:30And I would give you an analogy to it.
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15:30 - 15:33When I come back from all
those journeys lasting two months -
15:33 - 15:36and holding ores in my hands
with pretty tight grip on them -
15:36 - 15:37nearly continuously
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15:37 - 15:40and I stand on the dry land
and I touch my hair, -
15:40 - 15:45to my desensitized sense of touch,
this hair doesn't exist - -
15:45 - 15:46each time I hope it exists -
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15:46 - 15:48(Laughter)
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15:48 - 15:51because on the continuum
of the state of matter, -
15:52 - 15:54it doesn't make it to solids,
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15:54 - 15:57it is perceived to my desensitized
touch, this softness, -
15:57 - 16:00as something between liquids and gases.
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16:00 - 16:03So it is for a parentified child
in the adulthood -
16:03 - 16:06when it comes to the perception
of optimal workload: -
16:06 - 16:07what for most of people
-
16:07 - 16:10is perceived as optimum,
next to overloading, -
16:10 - 16:13for this child, it is
just a prelude to work. -
16:14 - 16:17Also, as dependent personalities
happen to choose this care -
16:17 - 16:21as one of the main strategies
for cultivating compliance, -
16:21 - 16:26they also, professionally,
often end up in places or professions -
16:26 - 16:29where you can cultivate this care,
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16:29 - 16:34and this care can be directed
towards humans, animals, or nature. -
16:34 - 16:35There's their major contribution.
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16:35 - 16:40They also often happen to be the engine
behind the career of another person, -
16:40 - 16:42but due to their deficiency
of self-preservation, -
16:42 - 16:45they will not claim rights
of recognition or exposure. -
16:45 - 16:50There is this famous statement
dating to prior to gender-equality times, -
16:50 - 16:54"Behind every great man,
there is a great woman" - -
16:54 - 16:56today, outdated -
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16:56 - 16:59that indicates these dynamics
very accurately. -
16:59 - 17:04And also, as they offer this care
excessively easy -
17:04 - 17:06because of the deficiency
of the preservation, -
17:06 - 17:08many will take advantage on them -
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17:08 - 17:10unfair advantage,
personally or professionally - -
17:10 - 17:14but there, of course, will be also people
who will genuinely benefit. -
17:14 - 17:17We know stories of orphaned children
who were raised to become presidents - -
17:17 - 17:20thanks to somebody's
genuine care like this. -
17:20 - 17:22Now, the question arises:
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17:22 - 17:25What to do with all these individuals?
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17:25 - 17:28To heal them while
they contribute so much? -
17:28 - 17:30Or to let them contribute
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17:30 - 17:34while they suffer
and their nearest circle suffers? -
17:34 - 17:37There is no definite answer to it.
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17:37 - 17:40We all have to answer ourselves.
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17:40 - 17:43Today, I would like
to encourage each of us -
17:43 - 17:45to contemplate our own scars and diamonds
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17:45 - 17:50and think how we can relate to them
and how we can harvest them, -
17:50 - 17:54but also to contemplate
the scars and diamonds -
17:54 - 17:56of those who lived before us.
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17:57 - 17:58Thank you.
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17:58 - 18:00(Applause)
- Title:
- Gifts of wounds and personality disorders traits | Fiann Paul | TEDxBend
- Description:
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We know a lot about the burden of the wounds that we carry and how we struggle with them. Personality disorders from a social point of view are perceived as something dysfunctional. But perhaps they were the driving force, which perhaps set many remarkable individuals on their mission to contribute to the development of our civilization.
Fiann Paul is one of the world's most record breaking explorers, and one of the most record breaking athletes. His careers in sports, art, and psychology, embody the antique, Greek concept of Arete, multipotential development. He is also an accomplished photographer, and a postgraduate student of Depth Psychology, his main focus being the research of the psychological background of explorers, adventurers, and ultra-endurance athletes.
This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at https://www.ted.com/tedx
- Video Language:
- English
- Team:
closed TED
- Project:
- TEDxTalks
- Duration:
- 18:03
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Peter van de Ven edited English subtitles for Gifts of wounds and personality disorders traits | Fiann Paul | TEDxBend | |
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Peter van de Ven edited English subtitles for Gifts of wounds and personality disorders traits | Fiann Paul | TEDxBend | |
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Peter van de Ven edited English subtitles for Gifts of wounds and personality disorders traits | Fiann Paul | TEDxBend | |
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Peter van de Ven edited English subtitles for Gifts of wounds and personality disorders traits | Fiann Paul | TEDxBend | |
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Peter van de Ven edited English subtitles for Gifts of wounds and personality disorders traits | Fiann Paul | TEDxBend | |
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Peter van de Ven edited English subtitles for Gifts of wounds and personality disorders traits | Fiann Paul | TEDxBend |