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Why curiosity is the key to science and medicine

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    Science.
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    The very word for many of you conjures
    unhappy memories of boredom
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    in high school biology or physics class.
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    But let me assure that what you did there
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    had very little to do with science.
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    That was really the "what" of science.
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    It was the history of what
    other people had discovered.
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    What I'm most interested in as a scientist
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    is the "how" of science.
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    Because science is knowledge in process.
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    We make an observation,
    guess an explanation for that observation,
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    and then make a prediction
    that we can test
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    with an experiment or other observation.
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    A couple of examples.
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    First of all, people noticed
    that the Earth was below, the sky above,
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    and both the Sun and the Moon
    seemed to go around them.
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    Their guessed explanation was that
    the Earth must be the center
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    of the Universe.
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    The prediction: everything
    should circle around the Earth.
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    This was first really tested
    when Galileo got his hands
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    on one of the first telescopes,
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    and as he gazed into the night sky,
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    what he found there was a planet, Jupiter,
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    with four moons circling around it.
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    He then used those moons
    to follow the path of Jupiter
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    and found that Jupiter also
    was not going around the Earth
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    but around the Sun.
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    So the prediction test failed.
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    And this led to the discarding
    of the theory
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    that the Earth was the center
    of the Universe.
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    Another example: Sir Isaac Newton
    noticed that things fall to the Earth.
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    The guessed explanation was gravity,
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    the prediction that everything
    should fall to the Earth.
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    But of course, not everything
    does fall to the Earth.
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    So did we discard gravity?
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    No. We revised the theory and said,
    gravity pulls things to the Earth
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    unless there is an equal
    and opposite force in the other direction.
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    This led us to learn something new.
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    We began to pay more attention
    to the bird and the bird's wings,
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    and just think of all the discoveries
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    that have flown from
    that line of thinking.
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    So the test failures, the exceptions,
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    the outliers, teach us what we don't know
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    and lead us to something new.
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    This is how science moves forward.
    This is how science learns.
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    Sometimes in the media,
    and even more rarely,
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    but sometimes even scientists will say
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    that something or has been
    scientifically proven.
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    But I hope that you understand
    that science never proves anything
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    definitively forever.
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    Hopefully science remains curious enough
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    to look for
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    and humble enough to recognize
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    when we have found
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    the next outlier,
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    the next exception,
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    which, like Jupiter's moons,
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    teaches us what we don't actually know.
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    We're going to change gears
    here for a second.
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    The caduceus, or the symbol of medicine,
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    means a lot of different things
    to different people,
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    but most of our public
    discourse on medicine
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    really turns it into
    an engineering problem.
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    We have the hallways of Congress,
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    and the boardrooms of insurance companies
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    that try to figure out how to pay for it.
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    The ethicists and epidemiologists
    try to figure out how best
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    to distribute medicine,
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    and the hospitals and physicians
    are absolutely obsessed
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    with their protocols and checklists,
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    trying to figure out how best
    to safely apply medicine.
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    These are all good things.
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    However, they also all assume
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    at some level
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    that the textbook of medicine is closed.
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    We start to measure the quality
    of our healthcare
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    by how quickly we can access it.
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    It doesn't surprise me that
    in this climate,
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    many of our institutions for
    for the provision of healthcare
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    start to look a heck of a lot
    like Jiffy Lube.
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    (Laughter)
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    The only problem is that when
    I graduated from medical school,
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    I didn't get one of those
    little doohickeys
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    that your mechanic has
    to plug into your car
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    and find out exactly what's wrong with it,
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    because the textbook of medicine
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    is not closed.
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    Medicine is science.
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    Medicine is knowledge in process.
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    We make an observation,
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    we guess an explanation
    of that observation,
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    and then we make a prediction
    that we can test.
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    Now the testing ground
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    of most predictions in medicine
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    is populations,
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    and you may remember from those
    boring days in biology class
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    that populations tend to distribute
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    around a mean
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    as a Gaussian or a normal curve.
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    Therefore, in medicine,
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    after we make a prediction
    from a guessed explanation,
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    we test it in a population.
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    That means that what we know in medicine,
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    our knowledge and our knowhow,
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    comes from populations,
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    but extends only as far
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    as the next outlier,
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    the next exception,
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    which, like Jupiter's moons,
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    will teach us what we don't actually know.
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    Now I am a surgeon
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    who looks after patients with sarcoma.
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    Sarcoma is a very rare form of cancer.
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    It's the cancer of flesh and bones.
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    And I would tell you that every one
    of my patients is an outlier,
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    is an exception.
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    There is no surgery I have ever performed
    for a sarcoma patient
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    that has ever been guided
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    by a randomized controlled clinical trial,
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    what we consider the best kind
    of population-based evidence in medicine.
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    People talk about thinking
    outside the box,
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    but we don't even have a box
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    in sarcoma.
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    What we do have as we take
    a bath in the uncertainty
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    and unknowns and exceptions
    and outliers that surround us in sarcoma
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    is easy access to what I think are
    those two more important values
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    for any science:
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    humility and curiosity.
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    Because if I am humble and curious,
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    when a patient asks me a question,
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    and I don't know the answer,
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    I'll ask a colleague who may have
    a similar albeit distinct patient
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    with sarcoma.
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    We'll even establish international
    collaborations.
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    Those patients will start to talk
    to each other through chatrooms
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    and support groups.
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    It's through this kind of
    humbly curious communication
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    that we begin to try and learn new things.
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    As an example, this is a patient of mine
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    who had a cancer near his knee.
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    Because of humbly curious communication
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    in international collaborations,
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    we have learned that we can repurpose
    the ankle to serve as the knee
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    when we have to remove the knee
    with the cancer.
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    He can then wear a prosthetic
    and run and jump and play.
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    This opportunity was available to him
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    because of international collaborations.
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    It was desirable to him
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    because he had contacted other patients
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    who had experienced it.
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    And so exceptions and outliers in medicine
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    teach us what we don't know,
    but also lead us to new thinking.
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    Now very importantly,
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    all the new thinking that outliers
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    and exceptions lead us to in medicine
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    does not only apply
    to the outliers and exceptions.
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    It is not that we only learn
    from sarcoma patients
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    ways to manage sarcoma patients.
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    Sometimes, the outliers
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    and the exceptions
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    teach us things that matter
    quite a lot to the general population.
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    Like a tree standing outside a forests,
    the outliers and the exceptions
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    draw our attention
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    and lead us into a much greater sense
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    of perhaps what a tree is.
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    We often talk about losing the forests
    for the trees,
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    but one also loses a tree
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    within a forest.
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    But the tree that stands out by itself
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    makes those relationships
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    that define a tree,
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    the relationships between trunk
    and roots and branches,
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    much more apparent.
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    Even if that tree is crooked
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    or even if that tree
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    has very unusual relationships
    between trunk and roots and branches,
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    it nonetheless draws our attention
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    and allows us to make observation
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    that we can then test
    in the general population.
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    I told you that sarcomas are rare.
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    They make up about 1 percent
    of all cancers.
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    You also probably know that cancer
    is considered a genetic disease.
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    By genetic disease, we mean that cancer
    is caused by oncogenes
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    that are turned on in cancer
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    and tumor suppressor genes
    that are turned off to cause cancer.
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    You might think that we learned
    about oncogenes
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    and tumor suppressor genes
    from common cancers
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    like breast cancer and prostate cancer
    and lung cancer,
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    but you'd be wrong.
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    We learned about oncogenes
    and tumor suppressor genes
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    for the first time
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    in that itty bitty little one percent
    cancers called sarcoma.
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    In 1966, Peyton Rous
Title:
Why curiosity is the key to science and medicine
Speaker:
Kevin Jones
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Video Language:
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