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The Panama Papers exposed a huge global problem. What's next?

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    [On April 3, 2016 we saw
    the largest data leak in history.]
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    [The Panama Papers exposed
    rich and powerful people]
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    [hiding vast amounts of money
    in offshore accounts.]
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    [What does this mean?]
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    [We called Robert Palmer
    of Global Witness to explain.]
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    This week, there have been
    a whole slew and deluge of stories
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    coming out from the leak
    of 11 million documents
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    from a Panamanian-based law firm
    called Mossack Fonseca.
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    The release of these papers from Panama
    lifts the veil on a tiny piece
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    of the secretive offshore world.
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    We get an insight into how clients
    and banks and lawyers
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    go to companies like Mossack Fonseca
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    and say, "OK, we want
    an anonymous company,
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    can you give us one?"
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    So you actually get to see the emails,
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    you get to see the exchanges of messages,
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    you get to see the mechanics
    of how this works,
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    how this operates.
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    Now, this has already started
    to have pretty immediate repercussions.
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    The Prime Minister
    of Iceland has resigned.
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    We've also had news
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    that an ally of the brutal
    Syrian dictator Bashar Al-Assad
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    has also got offshore companies.
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    There's been allegations
    of a $2 billion money trail
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    that leads back to President
    Vladimir Putin of Russia
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    via his close childhood friend,
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    who happens to be a top cellist.
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    And there will be a lot
    of rich individuals out there
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    and others who will be nervous
    about the next set of stories
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    and the next set of leaked documents.
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    Now, this sounds like the plot
    of a spy thriller
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    or a John Grisham novel.
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    It seems very distant
    from you, me, ordinary people.
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    Why should we care about this?
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    But the truth is that if rich
    and powerful individuals
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    are able to keep their money offshore
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    and not pay the taxes that they should,
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    it means that there is less money
    for vital public services
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    like healthcare, education, roads.
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    And that affects all of us.
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    Now, for my organization Global Witness,
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    this exposé has been phenomenal.
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    We have the world's media
    and political leaders
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    talking about how individuals
    can use offshore secrecy
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    to hide and disguise their assets --
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    something we have been talking about
    and exposing for a decade.
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    Now, I think a lot of people find
    this entire world baffling and confusing,
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    and hard to understand how
    this sort of offshore world works.
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    I like to think of it a bit
    like a Russian doll.
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    So you can have one company
    stacked inside another company,
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    stacked inside another company,
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    making it almost impossible
    to really understand
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    who is behind these structures.
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    It can be very difficult
    for law enforcement
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    or tax authorities,
    journalists, civil society
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    to really understand what's going on.
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    I also think it's interesting
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    that there's been less coverage
    of this issue in the United States.
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    And that's perhaps because
    some prominent US people
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    just haven't figured
    in this exposé, in this scandal.
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    Now, that's not because
    there are no rich Americans
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    who are stashing their assets offshore.
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    It's just because of the way
    in which offshore works,
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    Mossack Fonseca has fewer
    American clients.
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    I think if we saw leaks
    from the Cayman Islands
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    or even from Delaware
    or Wyoming or Nevada,
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    you would see many more cases
    and examples linking back to Americans.
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    In fact, in a number of US states
    you need less information,
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    you need to provide less
    information to get a company
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    than you do to get a library card.
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    That sort of secrecy in America
    has allowed employees of school districts
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    to rip off schoolchildren.
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    It has allowed scammers
    to rip off vulnerable investors.
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    This is the sort of behavior
    that affects all of us.
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    Now, at Global Witness,
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    we wanted to see what this
    actually looked like in practice.
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    How does this actually work?
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    So what we did
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    is we sent in an undercover investigator
    to 13 Manhattan law firms.
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    Our investigator posed
    as an African minister
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    who wanted to move suspect funds
    into the United States
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    to buy a house, a yacht, a jet.
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    Now, what was truly shocking
    was that all but one of those lawyers
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    provided our investigator with suggestions
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    on how to move those suspect funds.
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    These were all preliminary meetings,
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    and none of the lawyers
    took us on as a client
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    and of course no money moved hands,
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    but it really shows the problem
    with the system.
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    It's also important
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    to not just think about this
    as individual cases.
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    This is not just about
    an individual lawyer
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    who's spoken to our undercover
    investigator and provided suggestions.
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    It's not just about
    a particular senior politician
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    who's been caught up in a scandal.
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    This is about how a system works,
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    that entrenches corruption,
    tax evasion, poverty and instability.
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    And in order to tackle this,
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    we need to change the game.
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    We need to change the rules of the game
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    to make this sort of behavior harder.
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    This may seem like doom and gloom,
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    like there's nothing we can do about it,
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    like nothing has ever changed,
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    like there will always be rich
    and powerful individuals.
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    But as a natural optimist,
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    I do see that we are starting
    to get some change.
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    Over the last couple of years,
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    we've seen a real push towards
    greater transparency
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    when it comes to company ownership.
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    This issue was put on the political agenda
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    by the UK Prime Minister David Cameron
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    at a big G8 Summit that was held
    in Northern Ireland in 2013.
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    And since then, the European Union
    is going to be creating
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    central registers at a national level
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    of who really owns and controls
    companies across Europe.
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    One of the things that is sad is that,
    actually, the US is lagging behind.
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    There's bipartisan legislation
    that had been introduced
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    in the House and the Senate,
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    but it isn't making as much progress
    as we'd like to see.
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    So we'd really want to see
    the Panama leaks,
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    this huge peek into the offshore world,
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    be used as a way of opening up
    in the US and around the world.
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    For us at Global Witness,
    this is a moment for change.
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    We need ordinary people to get angry
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    at the way in which people
    can hide their identity
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    behind secret companies.
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    We need business leaders
    to stand up and say,
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    "Secrecy like this is not
    good for business."
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    We need political leaders
    to recognize the problem,
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    and to commit to changing the law
    to open up this sort of secrecy.
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    Together, we can end the secrecy
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    that is currently allowing tax evasion,
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    corruption, money laundering to flourish.
Title:
The Panama Papers exposed a huge global problem. What's next?
Speaker:
Robert Palmer
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Video Language:
English
Team:
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Project:
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Duration:
07:49

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