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    Willkommen, Bienvenue-- Welcome.
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    I always wanted to say that on a stage.
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    (laughter)
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    This is going to be inspirational,
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    because this is the official
    Wikibase inspiration panel
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    of WikidataCon 2019.
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    The point of this panel
    is to be inspired by all the things
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    that people, in various countries,
    in various fields, do with Wikibase,
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    the software behind Wikidata.
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    I was really surprised to learn today
    that someone came to me and said,
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    "I learned about Wikibase
    the first time today."
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    So, it is the software that runs Wikidata.
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    And if you want
    to order things in the world
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    the way Wikidata orders things
    in the world,
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    but you don't agree with the items
    that we have in there,
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    because you might need
    a finer level of granularity,
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    or maybe you don't want to start
    with Q1, which is the universe,
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    because in your little world,
    Q1 could be a book, if you are a library,
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    or it could be some kind of animal,
    if you work in biology,
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    or it could be a historic person,
    if you do digital humanities,
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    but you still want
    the same system of ordering,
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    then Wikibase is the thing for you.
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    Over the last one or two years,
    we have made contact
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    with extraordinary people,
    who are pioneers, who are trailblazing,
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    who are evaluating Wikibase,
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    and who are doing
    extremely great stuff with that.
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    This panel is going to be very rushed.
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    Every one of the participants
    of this panel would have deserved
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    a one-hour slot to present their thing.
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    But our program is packed.
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    So, yeah, keep your seat belt fastened
    for a fast-paced ride
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    through the inspirational
    world of Wikibases.
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    And the first one is a project
    from two organizations,
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    which is a little sensation in itself.
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    The Bibliothèque nationale de France,
    the French National Library,
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    and Abes, which is an authority
    for higher education.
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    But I think you will talk about that
    more in your presentation,
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    and yeah, we'd like to welcome
    Anila Angjeli and Benjamin Bober
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    on stage for the first
    ten minutes of inspiration.
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    (applause)
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    Hi, everybody.
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    So, yeah, my name is Benjamin Bober.
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    So, I work for Abes,
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    which stands for Higher Education Agency,
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    Bibliographic Higher Education Agency.
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    Basically, we work with all
    the university libraries in France,
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    and manage the union catalog.
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    And also their authority files.
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    And I'm here with Anila Angjeli,
    from the BnF,
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    French National Library.
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    And we're going to talk to you
    about our joint project,
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    which is about creating
    a new production tool
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    for authorities data--
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    person, corporate bodies,
    concepts, and so on.
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    And we spent the last months
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    asking Wikibase to do this stuff.
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    So, I will give you some context
    really quickly,
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    because it's important for us,
    as libraries--
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    There's been this technological
    shift recently
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    with the linked open data movement,
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    and we wanted, as a bibliographical agency,
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    to follow this new trend.
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    And, well, it's been years since we've--
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    experimenting with linked open data,
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    with RDF, SPARQL and so on.
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    But we think that now
    is the good time to move forward.
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    It's also a good time
    because there's been a-- not a shift,
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    there's a fundamental change
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    in the way we consider
    bibliographical data.
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    We used to, and we still have data
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    stored in records, we call it MARC records
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    in the library landscape.
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    We used a specific format called MARC.
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    But recently, there has been some way
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    to think about it
    from another point of view.
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    And to go from a record-based world,
    to an entity-based world
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    when we try to interconnect
    people, works,
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    and other entities.
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    So, in this context, we decided
    to launch this joint initiative.
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    But our goal is far beyond libraries.
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    We would like to have with us
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    other French GLAMS, for instance,
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    because we think our project
    can help them also.
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    So basically, our project is called
    Fichier National d'Entités,
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    so National Entity Files.
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    And it will be a shared platform
    for collaboratively create
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    and maintain reference
    data about entities.
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    Like I said, persons,
    corporate bodies, places, concepts,
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    and creative works.
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    So, we embrace a lot of things.
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    And it's a challenge
    because it's the first time
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    BnF and Abes collaborate
    at such a level.
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    Giving you a quick view
    about where we are--
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    where we've come from
    and where we are now.
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    We have been working
    on this project since 2017.
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    We've benchmarked,
    other similar initiatives,
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    and came to the conclusion last year
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    that there was a strong interest
    in Wikibase as the FNE's backbone.
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    We were considering it a good solution
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    to build upon, but we still
    had doubts at this time,
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    because we have specific needs to fulfill.
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    So we decided to launch,
    to spend this year
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    to build a proof of concept with real data
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    both from BnF catalog,
    authority catalog, and our catalogs.
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    And well, try to merge this data
    into a Wikibase,
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    and to try to see how they behave
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    and how the tool can fulfill our needs.
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    And we were helped
    in this proof of concept
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    by Maxime and Vincent
    from Inventaire.io,
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    who helped us have a better idea
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    about what Wikibase can bring us.
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    And Anila will talk
    about the first findings.
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    So, while this decision to go
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    with experiments with the Wikibase
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    as the technical infrastructure backbone
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    or the basic layer for our FNE
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    was because it's not trivial
    to move from one system to another,
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    and because the initiative
    of using the Wikibase
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    as the technical infrastructure
    for our data--
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    it was both--
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    means that we move from our classical
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    system information
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    or library information system
    to quite another thing.
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    And so, we needed to experiment first,
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    and just to see whether a set
    of functionalities that are--
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    that we usually need to perform
    and fulfill in our environment--
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    professional environment.
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    I'm talking here about creating
    and maintaining,
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    and not publishing,
    which is a big difference.
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    You were at the session,
    the previous session,
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    with just Wikidata Commons,
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    contribution strategies for GLAM--
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    it was about publication
    and ways about creation in itself.
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    So, we need to go step by step,
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    and that's why we conducted
    this experiment, this proof of concept.
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    And, good surprise, no major obstacle
    to ingest library data
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    according to a specific ontology,
    which is, while we--
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    I briefly mentioned that we put their data
    in two different flavors of MARC,
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    then we defined
    some [inaudible] properties
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    in order to be able to experiment
    with merging the data,
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    and there was no major obstacle
    from the technical point of view.
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    Of course, we came up with a confirmation
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    that Wikibase does offer built-in features
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    that could be used as the basis
    for the technical infrastructure for FNE.
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    But again, the decision is not yet made,
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    because the experiment is still--
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    let's say, the developments
    have been completed.
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    Now, we're in the phase of writing
    the final conclusions,
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    and the decision is not yet made
    from the strategic point of view,
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    but these are really the first findings
    we can talk about.
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    And Wikibase-- it appears to us
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    that a Wikibase might be
    a good operational solution
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    for managing this initiative--
    that is jointly, collaboratively,
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    create these entity, these things,
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    to remind you of the opposition,
    which is things and strings.
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    However, we noticed there are gaps.
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    Within the specific needs
    of our specific institutions,
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    there are defined communities
    with their own culture, practices and,
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    well, it is certain processes
    that are inherent to the libraries,
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    and the solution offered by Wikibase,
    for example, the search.
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    I mean, from the professional standpoint,
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    not only from this end-user standpoint,
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    but professional, we need some indexes
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    in order to ensure
    data quality, data curation,
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    and it is very important
    for the professional,
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    and Wikibase with its Elasticsearch
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    and CirrusSearch doesn't offer.
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    But still areas of investigation there.
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    The roles-- how are the roles managed?
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    The bureaucrat, the patrolling of--
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    it's not exactly what happened
    in our world.
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    Although there is a layer
    that can be used,
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    upon which we can build
    other roles that are more in compliance
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    with our way of managing the data.
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    Or different constraints,
    constraints related to data publication,
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    or data-- there's an error there
    we need to correct.
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    Data policy-- okay, thank you.
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    So, there are things that need to be--
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    other layers, bricks,
    need to be built upon Wikibase.
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    And of course, one of the reasons,
    the major reasons,
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    the reason why we are here with you,
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    is that we-- we are willing,
    and we feel the necessity
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    to be part of a community
    sharing the same concerns.
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    And we all know, given the program,
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    that libraries and GLAMs
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    are heavily represented in this event.
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    So, I think-- we think that maybe
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    in a couple of weeks,
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    or next year, we will able
    to communicate more openly
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    on our decision to go forward
    with this solution.
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    Thank you.
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    Thank you so much.
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    (applause)
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    So, we will have short
    presentations first,
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    and we will all return on stage
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    for questions, if we have
    the time for that.
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    But yeah, we heard something from France.
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    There's another project.
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    It's not Fichier National d'Ent--
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    (jokingly struggles with name)
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    But it's Gemeinsame Normdatei,
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    the universal authority file
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    for the German-speaking world.
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    And I'm so happy to have good friends
    of the Wikimedia movement here.
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    Barbara Fischer and Sarah Hartmann.
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    Thanks alot for the invitation
    to talk about our project,
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    which is called GND meets Wikibase.
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    And it's a joint project
    of Wikimedia Deutschland,
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    and the GND.
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    And we'd like to give you
    a quick overview,
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    as Jens said before,
    there are just 10 minutes.
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    Why we go for that approach
    to evaluate Wikibase,
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    if it fulfills the requirements
    for managing authority data
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    on a collaborative level, I would say.
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    So, where do we come from,
    and what's the idea of authority control?
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    And GND, which stands for
    Gemeinsame Normdatei,
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    what's the idea of it?
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    And yeah, where do we come from,
    as I said before.
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    It's not that different
    from what Anila and Ben said,
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    just a few seconds ago.
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    The GND is used
    for the description of resources,
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    such as publications,
    and objects, for example,
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    and in order to enable
    accurate data retrieval,
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    I would say, the GND provides
    unambiguous and distinct entities
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    for that retrieval.
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    And so, there are persistent identifiers,
    as well, as you all know,
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    for identification and reference
    for these entities.
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    The authority file is used
    by mainly libraries,
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    we would say,
    in the German-speaking countries,
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    but a few other institutions
    from the cultural heritage domain,
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    are using the authority file already.
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    And all in all there are
    around about 60 million records,
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    and in Wikibase, we would say "items,"
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    which refer to persons, names of persons,
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    corporate bodies, for example,
    geographic names, and works.
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    And the GND is run cooperatively
    by so-called GND agencies,
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    and at the moment, there are
    around about 1,000 institutions
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    who are active users of the GND--
    that means they establish new records
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    and added records or items
    on a regular basis.
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    And the most important thing, I would say,
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    is that the GND data
    is provided free of charge
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    under CC0 conditions,
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    and that all the APIs
    and documentation is open as well.
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    Yeah, talking about open--
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    that's the point,
    and the crucial one here--
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    at the moment, we challenge
    to open up the GND
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    for other GLAM institutions
    and institutions from the science domain.
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    At the moment, it's really focused
    on the library sector.
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    That means that the handy tool
    of librarians has to evolve
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    into a tool that is used
    and accepted across domains.
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    And that means a lot of work
    on organizational stuff,
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    community building, discussions
    about the current data model,
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    and infrastructural and technical issues.
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    And, yeah.
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    Talking about the infrastructural issues,
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    we came up with the idea
    to become partners in crime
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    with Wikibase, I would say,
    so have slightly the same aims,
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    namely make cultural data
    more accessible and interoperable.
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    And therefore we now
    evaluate the software,
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    which was originally conceived
    for a sole application, Wikidata,
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    if it's sufficient for managing
    authority data.
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    Right-- hi from my side as well.
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    We're focusing in our evaluation
    [inaudible] we do commonly
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    with Wikimedia Deutschland.
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    First of all, if Wikibase meets
    the requirements
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    of GLAM institutions, galleries,
    libraries, archives, and museums,
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    to drive collaboratively
    an authority file,
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    which is like our basic question.
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    We also would like to see
    Wikibase to increase usability
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    as the software system
    we're using right now
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    is, let's say, quite a complex software
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    that is not as handy
    as you might like it to be.
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    Well, and then, we would like to know
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    if Wikibase would also ease
    both data linking
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    and growing a diverse community.
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    As Sarah said before, we are right now
    in a process of opening up
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    towards a broader scope
    of GLAM institutions,
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    and science institutions.
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    And of course, they are working
    within their own software structures,
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    and we would like to know
    if Wikibase would ease
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    the cooperation-- collaboration with us.
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    So, why do we do that?
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    This is because we consider that Wikibase
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    might be the attractive community zone,
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    which means--I had to write that down--
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    first of all, as it is open source,
    it will be more accessible
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    than any proprietary source
    software system that is used
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    in the cataloging fields
    of the GLAM institutions.
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    Then, we feel that the Wikibase community
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    already by now
    is a very dedicated community,
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    and we would like to participate
    in that dedicated community,
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    because we believe that sharing is caring.
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    What we want to share
    is our knowledge is your knowledge,
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    and together, in order to omit redundance,
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    not by editing the same information
    over and over again,
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    but reuse data, link it,
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    quoting it, and enriching it.
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    And I placed here on the picture
    one of the tools
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    that is broadly spread within Wikidata,
    this Histropedia,
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    because we also feel that if we are able
    to introduce our data into Wikibase,
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    we might be able to share tools,
    improving the code,
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    and thus being an active,
    contributing part of the community.
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    Thank you.
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    I'd like to debate that with you later on.
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    Thank you so much.
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    (applause)
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    Thank you so much.
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    So, at some point,
    we ask ourselves, did we--
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    by accident, write a library software?
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    Because the adoption of Wikibase
    in the library fields is so overwhelming.
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    But there's more to it.
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    And of course, we didn't
    accidentally write a library system.
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    It can be used for other fields as well.
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    For instance, for biology.
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    And David Fichtmueller will tell us
    about using Wikibase
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    as a platform for biodiversity.
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    - I think that was grayed.
    - Yeah.
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    Full screen? Oh, okay.
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    Yes. Hello, everybody.
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    I'm David, and I work
    at the Botanic Garden,
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    Botanical Museum here in Berlin.
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    And I work there as a computer scientist.
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    We have an entire department
    called Biodiversity Informatics.
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    Generally speaking, we write the software
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    that biologists use in their daily work.
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    And on my private side,
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    I've been a Wikipedia contributor
    for almost 15 years now,
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    and Wikidata contributor
    for almost five years now.
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    And also, as part of my job,
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    I'm a co-administrator of a MediaWiki farm
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    with more than 80 wikis
    regarding the biology community.
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    And a couple of years ago,
    I was assigned to a project
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    that was, yeah, about working
    on a standard.
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    In particular, it's a standard
    called ABCD,
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    that we needed to do some work on.
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    And I assume most of you
    haven't heard about ABCD,
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    that's not really a bad thing.
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    It's really specific.
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    It stands for Access to Biological
    Collection Data.
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    And it's an XML schema.
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    So, it can express
    biological information,
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    particular things like information
    about herbarium sheets,
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    about collections, like fish in
    alcohol jars, or--
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    but also observations--
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    scientists being out in the field,
    seeing certain plants,
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    seeing certain animals.
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    A lot of variety in here,
    and because of this,
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    it's quite a huge standard.
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    So, we have 1,800
    different concepts in there.
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    That's counting the different XPaths
    there are within the file.
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    And so the challenge was to convert this
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    into a new modern semantic standard.
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    We wanted to use an OWL ontology
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    that is able to express
    the same kind of information
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    that has previously been expressed
    with the XML files,
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    and also keep all the existing
    documentation,
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    and restrictions,
    and all of the connections
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    between the items
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    and have a collaborative platform
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    where other scientists can come in
    and give us advice
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    on their specific fields of focus.
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    Did we model this correctly?
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    Is there anything missing?
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    So, yeah, with all of this in mind,
    we went looking around,
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    and found a solution, and I guess
    it wouldn't surprise anybody here,
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    it's Wikibase, otherwise
    I wouldn't have been talking here.
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    So, we decided on using Wikibase.
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    And we started to install it
    without the Docker Image.
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    Big mistake. Don't do this.
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    (laughter)
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    In our defense, we started this
    two and a half years ago.
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    And it was two years ago
    at the WikidataCon
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    that the Docker Image was first released.
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    So, we had to figure out our own way.
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    And once we had things up and running,
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    we didn't really want to break
    changing things.
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    We do have the Docker installed
    for the Query Service,
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    and we have a weird, hybrid
    of custom installation
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    and Docker installation
    and modified scripts
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    connecting those two instances.
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    We then installed
    QuickStatements, again, manually,
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    because by that time, it wasn't part
    of the Query Service,
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    did some slight modifications,
    and adjustments to get it to work.
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    I know it's now part
    of the Docker Image.
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    But yeah, we had it running,
    so, we didn't bother changing it.
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    Keep this in mind for later on.
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    But before I go into what we did,
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    I'm going to avoid
    a possible confusion here,
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    because we're talking
    about data standards,
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    and when we express things
    in a semantic way,
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    we will convert the concepts
    from the XML into Classes and Properties.
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    So, this being Object Properties
    connecting the different classes,
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    and Datatype Properties
    that actually contain the content,
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    that is to store text, numbers,
    things like that.
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    And we express all of this
    within Wikibase,
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    but all of those are items in Wikibase.
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    And they are then described
    using Wikibase Properties.
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    So, we have ABCD properties
    being items being described
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    as Wikibase Properties.
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    I try to make sure to use
    the prefixes accordingly,
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    so you know what I'm talking about
    when I talk about properties
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    in this talk.
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    So, let's look at the properties,
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    in particular, with Wikibase Properties.
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    We sat down and thought,
    "Okay, what do we need
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    to describe the concepts
    we want to model?"
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    And we ended up using around 25 properties
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    in addition to, of course, label,
    description, alias.
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    I'm not going to mention all of them,
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    just so you see the variety.
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    Those fulfill our requirements.
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    And yeah, some things
    express some restrictions,
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    and others--
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    Most of them are optional.
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    Only very few are mandatory.
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    So then, we set on importing
    all of this information.
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    We wrote a Schema Parser that extracts
    all of the different concepts.
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    So everything that has an XPath
    within the XML Schema,
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    and all of the documentation
    that is part of the XML schema,
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    and so we got this into a nice CSV file,
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    and then we could work on this
    and import it using QuickStatements.
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    Worked quite well.
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    But then, we had, as I said,
    1,800-plus concepts
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    in our Wikibase instance.
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    But then, when we had things like person--
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    person name, and contact email--
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    those appear a couple of times
    within the schema--
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    for the data set owner, for the person
    who took an image, things like that.
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    So, of course, we needed to reduce those,
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    and combine those to reusable classes.
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    So, there was a lot of manual editing
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    to reduce the number of concepts,
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    and in the end, we ended up
    with a little more than 500.
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    So, we have Classes, Object Properties,
    Datatype Properties,
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    a couple of other ones I'm skipping
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    to avoid additional complexity here.
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    And for certain large-scale edits,
    we also used QuickStatements again.
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    So now, we did all of the editing,
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    now we wanted to make sure
    that the data we have
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    is actually consistent.
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    So, that's where we used what we call
    Maintenance Queries,
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    used the query interface
    with some SPARQL queries,
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    basically to check for missing properties,
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    wrong links between concepts,
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    basically, things that didn't match
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    with our concept, with our structure.
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    And in the end, we also had to do
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    a manual review of all of the concepts
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    just to make sure we didn't miss anything.
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    This was kind of a lot of work,
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    because if you only take
    like five minutes per item,
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    multiply it by 550,
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    it's over one week of full
    and concentrated work.
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    But of course, we don't need five minutes,
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    because you sometimes spend
    like half an hour to fix a certain item
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    when there's problems with the modeling.
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    So, we now had all of the data.
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    Now, it was time to get the data
    out of Wikibase.
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    We wrote an export script in Python
    that uses the Query Service
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    to get the information about the concepts,
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    and fill them in templates--
    prepared templates.
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    So, in the end, we get
    a nice valid OWL file
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    that contains everything we need.
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    And this is the actual basis
    of the standard.
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    For future versions,
    when we're going to make revisions,
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    the Wikibase is our working platform.
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    And once we do an export,
    this is the new version of the standard.
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    Keeping those separate,
    this would also allow us
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    to move the server
    to a different instance,
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    or as I said, change the installation.
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    We export JSON
    for the documentation of the website.
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    And we also export the data
    to a second Wikibase instance.
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    This is like really
    experimental, right now.
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    We haven't really used this
    in production where it can--
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    where the concepts can then be used
    to describe actual data.
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    So we're breaking down those--
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    we're taking them a step down
    from properties being Wikibase items,
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    and converting them into actual
    Wikibase properties.
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    This is quite a lot of requests--
    quite a lot of steps
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    to keep all of the data
    and all of the linking consistent,
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    but it works.
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    And in the end, well,
    it was quite successful.
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    There is a huge community--
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    there is a community about
    Biodiversity Information Standards,
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    who also had their annual meeting
    just in the past days.
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    So, there's a huge interest
    in reusing this approach
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    for other standards, as well.
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    And so, in the future,
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    we want to try a bit
    about Shape Expressions--
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    as I said, we have some restrictions
    in there to export them--
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    and build some better workflows
    for the versioning.
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    We haven't done this yet.
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    And switch up the Docker instance.
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    So, at the end, I'm gong to have
    a small wish list--
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    what things could be improved.
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    Well, there are a lot more tools
    out there that are really written
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    for Wikidata, but could be more agnostic,
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    in particular, QuickStatements.
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    As I said, I did
    some adjustments manually.
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    Many of the issues I had
    are probably solved by now,
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    but I don't think all of them.
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    Then we want to import existing templates,
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    or the SPARQL template,
    the Q and the P template.
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    They are really useful
    when working with Wikibase.
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    So, this would be done automatically.
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    And as I said, we did a lot
    of manual editing.
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    So, it would be useful,
    just ideal to have a tool where you can--
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    Like in an Excel table--
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    you load a couple of items,
    and you load a couple of properties,
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    and then just jump from cell to cell,
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    really quickly edit a lot of things
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    in a semi-automated way.
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    Thanks. That's the end.
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    Thank you so much.
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    (applause)
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    So much to talk about on this.
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    So, there is not only--
    well, how do I get back from here.
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    It's not only about science.
    It's not only about libraries.
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    You can also create
    art and beauty with Wikibase.
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    And who would be better to tell us
    about this than Stuart Prior.
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    Now, slightly embarrassingly,
    we talk about art and beauty,
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    but this is a really ugly presentation.
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    (laughter)
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    Starting off with a room
    full of Wikimedians,
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    trains--people like trains.
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    But it has a purpose.
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    So, this is Hackney Downs Station
    in Northeast London.
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    And this is about
    Banner Repeater and Wikibase,
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    which I'll explain further.
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    So, this is a terrible photo.
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    But it is actually where
    an artists' publishing archive is held,
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    which is on the platform
    of a train station.
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    Within there, they've got
    several hundred copies
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    of various types of artists' publishing.
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    They get a lot of public footfall.
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    It does a lot of outreach
    to actual general public.
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    Like you get on the train,
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    you'll find bits of
    sort of obscure art on the train.
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    So, it's a really interesting project,
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    but part of a much wider community.
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    So, what is Artists' Publishing?
    What are Artists' Books?
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    Like, I didn't know either.
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    So, the definition,
    according to Wikipedia,
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    is "Artists' books are works of art
    that utilize the form of the book."
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    Well, you can read it.
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    But it's individual pieces of art,
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    or sometimes collections of art,
    using publishing as a medium.
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    This varies quite a lot.
    It's very interesting.
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    It was kind of--
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    There was a lot of it
    in the early '20s and '30s,
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    and it had a bit of a renaissance,
    '60s and 70's,
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    and continues to expand.
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    Has a large global community,
    multilingual,
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    somewhat separate from large
    institutional art institutions.
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    So, you'll find collections,
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    such as the V&A
    has a collection, obviously.
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    So, they've got various kind
    of items such as these.
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    This is just an article,
    so it's just not the best display.
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    But it's a really kind of interesting,
    yet slightly niche field of work.
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    But it's not very good on Wikidata.
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    This is, again, a really terrible photo--
    it's not my photo--
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    of some the stuff held
    in Banner Repeater's archive.
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    If you see in the middle,
    the pink one, Blast,
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    that's actually a fairly notable
    piece of artists' publishing
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    from the '20s.
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    What does it look like on Wikidata?
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    It's not good on Wikidata.
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    It's often just confused with books
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    or other forms of publishing.
  • 34:40 - 34:43
    The average kind of Wikidata item for
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    a notable piece of artists' publishing
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    doesn't really have much to say about it.
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    You know, it's just--
    there you go, that's it.
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    There's not a huge amount
    of identifier numbers as well.
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    So, there's clearly a lot missing
  • 35:01 - 35:04
    when it comes to artists' publishing,
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    certainly compared
    to more traditional forms of art--
  • 35:07 - 35:09
    paintings and sculpture and so forth.
  • 35:10 - 35:13
    And there's a huge desire
    within the community
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    to start codifying this,
    and making it a real thing.
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    So, I'll give you an example
    of what is actually available.
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    You can point out what's wrong
    with this query.
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    So, this is basically all there is.
  • 35:29 - 35:32
    That's every artists' book on Wikidata.
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    So, there's really not a lot.
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    Some of them don't even
    have labels for a start.
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    And it's something
    that really needs expanding.
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    And something that has capacity
    to be expanded.
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    Has anyone seen what's wrong
    with this query yet?
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    The labels-- the labels say "sausage",
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    because I just stole
    someone else's query,
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    and changed the key number.
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    (laughter)
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    It's actually a query about sausages.
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    Anyway, moving on.
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    But yeah, you see it doesn't really have
    much of a presence.
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    We were approached by Banner Repeater.
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    So, I work with Wikimedia UK.
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    We were approached by Banner Repeater
    to help them with this--
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    with setting up a Wikibase--
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    in terms of funding,
    in getting extra funding,
  • 36:16 - 36:18
    but also in terms of bringing in
    a wider community,
  • 36:18 - 36:20
    and being part of the process.
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    So, the process is basically
    to gather this community
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    of artists, archivists,
    and linked data experts,
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    and work out what the schema,
    the data model,
  • 36:32 - 36:34
    for artists' publishing should be.
  • 36:34 - 36:36
    It's a very specialized field.
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    Doesn't really map
    onto Wikidata perfectly.
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    It's probably too granular for it.
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    And the other thing
    is the kind of flexibility of it.
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    Maybe it doesn't really fit in Wikidata.
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    Maybe it's too rigid at the moment.
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    The Wikibase is being built,
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    so I haven't got much to show you,
    because it's not been built yet,
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    but this more about the process.
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    And the process is extensive
    community consultation,
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    a few kind of layers of it.
  • 37:02 - 37:05
    So, we're not just going
    to do this in one session.
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    It's not a few individuals deciding.
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    It's kind of ongoing,
    and ongoing, and ongoing.
  • 37:09 - 37:13
    The impact of this
    could be fairly substantial,
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    because no one else is doing this work.
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    A lot of the larger institutions
    have artists' publishing
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    sitting in their kind of back room.
  • 37:20 - 37:22
    They don't really know
    how to categorize it.
  • 37:22 - 37:24
    They haven't categorized it very well.
  • 37:24 - 37:26
    They're not very interested in it.
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    But there is a huge community
    that is interested in doing this.
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    So, this is basically
    the process at the moment.
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    So, the initial workshop has happened.
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    So, it was an expert workshop
    with some people
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    deep in the field of artists' publishing--
  • 37:44 - 37:46
    archivists, people
    who own collections, and so forth--
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    to establish a kind of
    basic set of priors,
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    to look at what things were existing.
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    The existing status was on Wikidata,
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    and look at how that
    could be expanded or improved.
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    And then they documented that,
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    and established this basic structure.
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    And now, we move into the next process
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    where it's bringing in
    a much wider community.
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    So that's-- it's not just data people,
    it's creators, as well.
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    There'll be a lot of narrative in this,
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    and a lot of qualitative things.
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    Again, stuff that just
    doesn't really belong on Wikidata.
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    But also working with archivists,
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    and working with linked
    data experts, and so forth,
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    to hopefully bring this all together,
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    to create a resource that will have
    a nice accessible front end,
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    and also build this community--
    people who can contribute to it,
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    and kind of own this data set.
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    I'll show you what we've got ready.
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    This is subject to change.
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    But this is basically kind of
    where we've got so far
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    with the expert ones.
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    So, you see different P numbers
    being developed,
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    and look at what
    their equivalent on Wikidata is.
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    And obviously, it's a lot more granular
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    than probably the information
    on Wikidata is at the moment, so--
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    There's a lot of detailed stuff,
    so there's qualities
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    such as height, width,
    thickness, and so forth,
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    which aren't necessarily that present
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    on other groups
    of artists' publishing on Wikidata.
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    But there's also other things like
    "commissioned by", and "contributors to",
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    and a lot of these works
    will have multiple contributors.
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    And multiple editions
    and things like that.
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    There's really a lot
    of granular information
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    that can come about these things.
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    And a lot of narrative as well, you know,
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    as things have changed over time,
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    as people have reinterpreted things.
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    And this was what was created.
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    Again, most of it has
    Wikidata equivalents,
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    but some of it doesn't yet.
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    So, what do we have here.
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    Other editions, and things like that.
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    So, it's fairly specialized.
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    This is the first stage.
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    And this will go through another process,
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    as people take things away from it
    or contribute, too.
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    The flexibility is really
    important in this.
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    It's kind of getting away
    from older kind of standards,
  • 40:05 - 40:07
    and moving to something
    which is a bit more up-to-date,
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    and something where the community
    can really change things,
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    and not be dictated to--
    and I'll start speaking quicker.
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    So, power dynamics, at the moment,
    and why Wikibase.
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    So at the moment, this is the art world.
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    This is what the art world looks like.
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    It's a big orange thing.
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    But you've got these large institutions,
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    and then you've got sort of
    groups of artists' publishing.
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    That could be Delhi, Mexico City,
    London, and so forth.
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    And what we don't want
    is this kind of thing
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    where large institutions and experts
    get to dictate
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    the kind of ontology,
    and how these things are going to work.
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    So, working to establish a Wikibase
    among an artist community
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    can help them work out
    what they're going to do,
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    and then they start pushing back
    into the larger institutions,
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    with a more kind of flexible data model,
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    with something that's more up-to-date
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    and coming from grassroots organizations,
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    as opposed as coming
    from institutions, so to speak.
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    So, I think there's huge value
    in this approach
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    in terms of creating
    a sort of parallel infrastructure
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    for communities of people
    who own content, and so forth,
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    much like Wikimedia is,
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    and kind of pushing out to institutions,
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    rather than doing it the other way around.
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    Do I have another slide?
    What next?
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    I always put this slide in,
    because it's always the worst slide,
  • 41:29 - 41:30
    and it's such a stereotype.
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    What next? We're moving on
    to the community consultation stage,
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    so we'll get a bit more kind of
    expansive and interesting.
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    This obviously, this database
    will be talking to Wikidata,
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    but on what term,
    we're not 100% sure.
  • 41:47 - 41:49
    But it could be that this becomes very--
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    just a very specific instance
    for artists' publishing
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    that Wikidata can draw from,
    and vice versa.
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    And I'll just finish off
    with that picture again,
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    because I just quite like it.
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    And that's all I have to say.
    Thank you.
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    - Thank you so much.
    - (applause)
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    We're almost at the end
    of our fast-paced ride,
  • 42:09 - 42:13
    and we'll-- what to say?
    we saved the best for last?
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    No, but we give the last presentation
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    to someone who's a true pioneer
    of using Wikibase
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    in the field of digital humanities.
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    And, yeah-- Olaf Simons.
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    You have not prepared any slides,
    but you will do some live action.
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    Exactly.
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    And I have been on Wikipedia
    since 2004, actually.
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    I have the 15 years.
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    What am I going to show?
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    I've been congratulated for this.
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    I'm going to show you
    the Wikibase instance we created.
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    It's not a Docker Image.
  • 42:49 - 42:52
    And I could agree, it's not the best
    to have a Docker--
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    it's not the best to have
    an independent installation.
  • 42:57 - 42:58
    It's difficult,
  • 42:58 - 43:00
    and it has been extremely
    difficult for us,
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    and we're grateful
    for the Wikimedia Germany
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    to help us get it done
    on a mutual agreement we had.
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    So, basically, we have here
    several projects on this.
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    It's more project-oriented than Wikidata.
  • 43:19 - 43:21
    And my thing should be in here.
  • 43:22 - 43:27
    I open that and go--
    just should have done that before.
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    Here we are.
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    The history of the Illuminati--
    I start with this one.
  • 43:34 - 43:36
    This has been a little film
  • 43:36 - 43:40
    which has been created
    by Paul-Olivier Dehaye,
  • 43:42 - 43:44
    whom I only know from Twitter,
  • 43:44 - 43:46
    as he asked us what kind of experience
  • 43:46 - 43:50
    did we make when we got our Wikibase,
  • 43:50 - 43:52
    and he was experimenting with his own.
  • 43:52 - 43:56
    And I talked to him
    about things we could do,
  • 43:56 - 43:57
    and things we could not do.
  • 43:57 - 44:00
    This was a film I would love
    to be able to do.
  • 44:00 - 44:02
    And he said, "It's easy for me.
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    I can run a SPARQL search,
    get the information,
  • 44:05 - 44:08
    and put it into a program,
    in which you can then see this thing."
  • 44:09 - 44:12
    It's actually 20 years of research
    on the Illuminati,
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    and gives you a short history
    of the entire organization
  • 44:16 - 44:18
    and all its correspondences.
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    That's not a Wikimedia tool.
  • 44:20 - 44:23
    It's not a tool of Wikibase.
  • 44:23 - 44:25
    But it's something you can do.
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    And actually, I like it
    that it is not a tool already.
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    It should become a tool.
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    I like it because it shows
    our data is really free.
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    Someone can download our data,
    someone can do something with it,
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    which we haven't expected,
    and it can be done within two hours,
  • 44:42 - 44:44
    if you're bright--
    and he is bright, of course.
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    So, he created this for us.
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    I go back to my presentation.
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    Why on Wikibase?
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    This was the immediate question
    when we approached Wikimedia.
  • 44:56 - 44:59
    I knew of Wikidata since 2010,
  • 44:59 - 45:05
    and in 2017, it was ready
    to be used by us.
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    And there was actually an interest
    from Wikimedia people to say,
  • 45:11 - 45:13
    "Do it, and we support you."
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    Why our own base?
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    Basically, as original research
    that we have to do.
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    And the entire installation
    is a research tool.
  • 45:25 - 45:28
    It's not only there to take a look
    at what we did
  • 45:28 - 45:29
    and for presentation purposes,
  • 45:29 - 45:32
    but actually, I use it every day
    for my research.
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    I change dates of documents,
  • 45:35 - 45:39
    and take a look at how things look
    when I have changed that.
  • 45:39 - 45:41
    I do a lot with working hypothesis.
  • 45:41 - 45:48
    And we ask projects that have data
    to give us their data,
  • 45:48 - 45:50
    and to feed them in,
  • 45:50 - 45:54
    and they can, again, put a label,
  • 45:54 - 45:58
    put an item to their data sets,
  • 45:58 - 46:02
    that says this has been produced
    by the following project.
  • 46:02 - 46:05
    Next projects can continue with it.
  • 46:05 - 46:07
    But it's already there as a marker
  • 46:07 - 46:11
    that this is a data set
    with work from a certain project.
  • 46:11 - 46:14
    And if you have a project, DFG--
  • 46:15 - 46:18
    DFG funded, the German
    research institution--
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    if you have a project, you want to show
  • 46:19 - 46:21
    what kind of work you have done.
  • 46:21 - 46:23
    And you can now do a SPARQL search
  • 46:23 - 46:26
    and present your entire group of data sets
  • 46:26 - 46:30
    in the final résumé of your work.
  • 46:31 - 46:36
    So we get original research,
    we identify research,
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    we encourage the working hypothesis.
  • 46:39 - 46:40
    This is a working tool,
  • 46:40 - 46:43
    and it's actually quite useful
    to start from the beginning,
  • 46:43 - 46:44
    not to present something in the end.
  • 46:44 - 46:47
    But from day one, you work with it,
  • 46:47 - 46:50
    and what you think is
    the proper answer to that question,
  • 46:50 - 46:53
    you can put it into Wikibase, and then
  • 46:53 - 46:55
    you can substantiate information
  • 46:55 - 46:57
    until you see this
    is the right identification
  • 46:57 - 47:00
    of a person or the right date for a thing
  • 47:00 - 47:02
    which we haven't been able to date so far.
  • 47:02 - 47:05
    So, actually, accumulate work
    while you are doing it,
  • 47:05 - 47:08
    use the Wikibase as a kind of tool
  • 47:08 - 47:10
    that is getting you closer
    to the final result.
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    Our first meeting took place
    on December 1, 2017.
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    And I remember I had
    a little challenge for you,
  • 47:19 - 47:25
    and that was a death date--
    a date of death for a person--
  • 47:25 - 47:30
    where I wanted to have someone
    to show a source for that,
  • 47:30 - 47:31
    and that was extremely difficult,
  • 47:31 - 47:33
    because he had to create the source
  • 47:33 - 47:35
    before he could connect it to that.
  • 47:35 - 47:36
    And in the room, we were--
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    we had the clear idea,
    if we do this, we'd do it
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    with the sources already part
    of the Wikibase installation we have.
  • 47:45 - 47:46
    And if we have the sources in there--
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    that is, all the early modern books
    that have been printed
  • 47:50 - 47:51
    would be the ideal.
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    If we have that in there,
    we need the GND in there.
  • 47:53 - 48:00
    And when we heard that the GND people
    are on their track to test the software,
  • 48:00 - 48:02
    I approached them and asked,
    "Wouldn't you like to do this
  • 48:02 - 48:05
    in a cooperation with us,
    so that we can have your data,
  • 48:05 - 48:07
    which we want to have, anyway,
  • 48:07 - 48:10
    and that you can see
    how it works on a Wikibase."
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    And this is where we are at the moment.
  • 48:12 - 48:15
    And presently, I would say,
    a lot of things,
  • 48:15 - 48:16
    we're not sure how they are done,
  • 48:16 - 48:18
    or at least I am not sure
    how they are done.
  • 48:18 - 48:21
    How's the input done, how do you get
    from a resource of strings
  • 48:21 - 48:24
    to an item-based resource--
    lots of things.
  • 48:25 - 48:28
    And basically, my talk here
    is an invitation.
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    Join us.
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    We are still not really part
    of the Wikibase community.
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    That doesn't exist.
  • 48:34 - 48:36
    We have a Wikidata community.
  • 48:36 - 48:38
    And lots of things
    are taking place in Wikidata,
  • 48:38 - 48:43
    but if I ask for help for a Wikibase
    that is not Wikidata,
  • 48:43 - 48:45
    that's a difficult thing.
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    First thing I would say is,
    actually, to work with us is cool,
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    because you can grab the data
    for Wikidata anytime, any moment, at CC0.
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    So, actually, you can use it
    as an incubator of your work,
  • 48:58 - 49:00
    and drag it to Wikidata.
  • 49:01 - 49:06
    And also, we will work with big data,
    when we have the GND
  • 49:06 - 49:08
    in there, that will be quite something.
  • 49:08 - 49:10
    So, if you really want the challenge,
  • 49:10 - 49:12
    you can get it also on our platform.
  • 49:12 - 49:15
    And we offer interesting communities.
  • 49:16 - 49:18
    Basically, one of the things
    that is different
  • 49:18 - 49:21
    is that we have all clear-name accounts
    and institutions.
  • 49:21 - 49:24
    So, but that also means you can do things
  • 49:24 - 49:26
    which you couldn't do on Wikidata.
  • 49:26 - 49:28
    You can do your genealogy at our site.
  • 49:28 - 49:29
    We don't mind.
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    It's interesting to have people
    getting such data.
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    You can do your city's search--
    research, historical research
  • 49:36 - 49:38
    on our platform-- we don't mind.
  • 49:38 - 49:42
    You can be with research on our platform.
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    So, lots of things need to be done.
  • 49:46 - 49:49
    We have immense problems
    running the database.
  • 49:49 - 49:51
    It was implemented by Wikimedia,
  • 49:51 - 49:53
    but now, we see lots of things
    don't really work.
  • 49:53 - 49:54
    We can't really fix that.
  • 49:54 - 49:58
    It's extremely difficult to get help
  • 49:58 - 50:00
    to run the database,
    to update the database,
  • 50:00 - 50:03
    to solve little technical problems,
  • 50:03 - 50:09
    which we face as soon as we run
    an instance outside Wikidata.
  • 50:09 - 50:13
    Like getting the direct
    GND link is difficult.
  • 50:13 - 50:16
    It works on Wikidata,
    it doesn't work on our instance.
  • 50:16 - 50:20
    Getting images from Wikimedia Commons
  • 50:20 - 50:23
    on our Wikibase is not that easy.
  • 50:23 - 50:25
    Lots of little things still remain.
  • 50:25 - 50:28
    So, actually, this is an invitation.
  • 50:28 - 50:32
    If you want to join us
    on the mass input, do that.
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    Approach us.
  • 50:35 - 50:37
    If you want to help us
    with technical things,
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    this is highly welcome.
  • 50:39 - 50:40
    And then, we need tools.
  • 50:40 - 50:42
    You saw the tool we had in the beginning.
  • 50:42 - 50:45
    Actually, it's not that difficult
    to get such tools.
  • 50:46 - 50:51
    I saw what kind of query you do
    to get such a visualization,
  • 50:51 - 50:55
    and once you have it,
    you should be able to modify it easily.
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    These tools are extremely precious
  • 50:59 - 51:03
    in our community
    of digital humanities projects.
  • 51:03 - 51:06
    And there are little companies
    that create these tools,
  • 51:06 - 51:09
    again, and again, and again,
    and get money for that.
  • 51:09 - 51:12
    I would love to have these tools
    just once and for all free
  • 51:12 - 51:15
    and on the market and working
    with a Wikibase instance.
  • 51:15 - 51:20
    So, anyone who is interested
    in developing tools,
  • 51:20 - 51:22
    approach us, and we have plenty of ideas
  • 51:22 - 51:25
    of what visualizations
    historians would love to see,
  • 51:25 - 51:27
    and that should be done.
  • 51:28 - 51:31
    So, basically, lots of things,
    like, still remain.
  • 51:32 - 51:34
    I've got one minute.
    I don't need that one minute.
  • 51:34 - 51:36
    And you're putting pressure on me.
  • 51:37 - 51:39
    (person) Give it to the audience.
  • 51:39 - 51:40
    I give the minute to the audience.
  • 51:40 - 51:42
    Yeah. Thank you so much.
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    And maybe you want to sit down,
  • 51:44 - 51:49
    because I would like everyone
    to join me back on stage.
  • 51:50 - 51:52
    And we can have a round of questions.
  • 51:52 - 51:55
    I really like that we ended
    with an invitation,
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    because this is what this is now.
  • 51:57 - 51:59
    You are invited to ask questions.
  • 51:59 - 52:03
    You are also invited to join us tomorrow
    at the Wikibase meetup.
  • 52:03 - 52:06
    If you are-- if you have some idea
  • 52:06 - 52:09
    for an awesome Wikibase installation,
  • 52:09 - 52:12
    for your institution, for your hobby,
    for changing the world--
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    please come and join us,
    we will meet up, and--
  • 52:18 - 52:20
    There's some complication
    with the chairs.
  • 52:20 - 52:22
    Well, let's stand up. Okay.
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    I think we have another microphone, here.
  • 52:24 - 52:27
    (person) I have the microphone
    for the questions.
  • 52:27 - 52:29
    Okay. So--
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    Thank you for the presenters.
  • 52:33 - 52:36
    And meet us at the Wikibase meetup,
  • 52:36 - 52:39
    and now, I can't wait to hear
    your questions to the panel.
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    (person) Who's the first?
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    (person) Hi. I will be talking
    in the lightning session, too,
  • 52:47 - 52:51
    about geosciences, and how in geosciences,
  • 52:51 - 52:54
    there's many data repositories
    that have collected
  • 52:54 - 52:57
    and shared data with the community
  • 52:57 - 52:59
    for years, for decades in some cases.
  • 53:00 - 53:05
    And they curate the data set,
    their schemas evolve continuously,
  • 53:05 - 53:07
    they get a lot of feedback
    from the community.
  • 53:07 - 53:10
    All they desire is to organize
    the community,
  • 53:10 - 53:13
    to enable the growth
    of these repositories.
  • 53:13 - 53:17
    So, they don't necessarily desire
    to put all their content in Wikidata
  • 53:17 - 53:19
    and lose control over it.
  • 53:19 - 53:22
    They offer a tremendous service
    curating this content.
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    So, I just wanted to point out
    that some of the requirements
  • 53:28 - 53:31
    and needs that have been voiced
    by the panelists
  • 53:31 - 53:33
    appear in my communities.
  • 53:33 - 53:40
    And my question is, how do you mix
    or maintain control
  • 53:40 - 53:43
    over those schemas, over the standards,
  • 53:43 - 53:48
    while allowing the community
    to continue to introduce feedback
  • 53:48 - 53:52
    and have more of this crowdsourcing
    spirit that Wikidata has?
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    I think everyone could answer that,
    but maybe David, you want to start?
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    I'm not sure whether I'm the right
    person to answer this,
  • 53:59 - 54:01
    because in our use case--
  • 54:02 - 54:04
    in terms of data modeling,
  • 54:04 - 54:09
    it's really a narrow set of people
    who actually do the work.
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    We contact experts
    for the relevant segments,
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    and some of them could contribute,
    but for the current iteration,
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    it was only me and two colleagues
    who actually worked on it.
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    So, we want to have this option,
    that we get experts in,
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    but it's always in close
    collaboration with us,
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    so that we don't really have to worry
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    about the problem of crowdsourcing.
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    Being part of the Wikimedia community,
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    I would say, I would not be that worried.
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    95% of the edits are good edits,
    and improving things--more than that.
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    As soon as we have an instance
    that is actually closed--
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    where I offer the accounts on real name,
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    that's an additional hurdle
    that no fool is going to go over.
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    People are required on our instance
    to offer an address, on page--
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    not to me, but on page--
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    and this is something only
    institutions usually do,
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    or private people that say,
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    "Okay, I'm a private person.
    I love this research.
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    This is my personal field.
    I give you my address."
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    And this is a thing that puts off every--
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    any vandal who wants to destroy Wikidata.
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    So, you can close the system, but then,
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    you are not really part
    of the same flowing community.
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    But again, I would say, if you go to CC0,
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    then you can open up,
    you can be the incubator
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    where people do the research,
    and then it goes out to the community.
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    But it's an invitation--
    use maybe closed works,
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    and use an instance where
    you work together with people you like.
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    Well, I think that--
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    I don't think that it's only my opinion--
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    it is there are different perspectives,
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    and it will be hard to reconcile
    all perspectives and say,
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    "Wikidata is the solution
    for the entire world to go into."
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    I don't say by this that Wikidata
    is not a solution,
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    but there are different perspectives,
    there are different needs.
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    The world is-- really, there is
    a large variety of needs,
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    of professional perspectives,
    that you cannot reconcile
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    in a unique worldwide database.
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    So, I think that both are--
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    The trickiest thing is how to reconcile
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    and find angles of dialogue
    between these two large families
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    of needs and perspectives.
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    If there are more questions,
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    I would rather like to go
    to more questions.
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    Anybody else?
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    If not, meanwhile you're thinking
    about your questions--
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    I would just like to say
    that's one of the reasons
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    why we consider Wikibase,
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    because we believe that adding,
    editing information
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    within the Wikibase instance,
    where you have rights and roles,
  • 57:28 - 57:31
    as you have in Wikidata,
    gives us the opportunity
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    to share that information
    with the information in Wikidata
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    in a more easy way,
    a more convenient way
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    than if we try to build these bridges
    in between our authority file
  • 57:44 - 57:47
    and Wikidata at the moment.
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    (person) So, I find it quite exciting
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    hearing about how
    you're energizing communities
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    to find their own ways for data modeling,
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    and that you can put into Wikibase.
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    Will you-- I'm just saying
    of Stuart Prior's community,
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    but also some of the others--
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    be trying to feed the approaches
  • 58:06 - 58:10
    that as a community
    that you decide work back to Wikidata,
  • 58:10 - 58:13
    to say, "We've done artists' books,
  • 58:13 - 58:15
    we've thrashed through several iterations,
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    this is what we found really worked,
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    and the properties that you should have
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    or revisions you should make
    to the Wikidata data model.
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    Good question. Very short answer.
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    It's an interesting question.
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    I don't know whether this is a model
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    that's going to work for other types.
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    I hope it is.
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    But it's a difficult one if you question
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    of whether the Wikidata community
    accepts the kind of authority
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    of a separate community that goes off
    and does the work on its own.
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    But I would certainly hope
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    that it's a way of people
    feeding back into this process,
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    without necessarily needing to go
    onto Wikidata and do it.
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    Well, I would say, grab it.
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    Grab it if it's convenient, take it,
    and take a look at how it works
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    in the other instance.
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    And if you feel like
    this is a cool property
  • 59:06 - 59:09
    to do certain searches,
    then that will be adopted,
  • 59:09 - 59:11
    that will be flowing.
  • 59:11 - 59:13
    I wouldn't think
    of authorities doing this.
  • 59:13 - 59:15
    (person) Coming from
    a Wikidata user perspective,
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    the great thing you're doing
    is showing you've established code
  • 59:18 - 59:19
    that works and runs.
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    You've established a data model
    that people can see,
  • 59:21 - 59:23
    is implementable, and works.
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    And so, in the open source community,
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    you know, show us the code.
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    You can do that.
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    And that's why I think it's very exciting
    to have these branches
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    that can then fold it back
    for data modeling.
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    Yeah, thank you.
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    I think that is exactly the point.
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    I also like the verb
    that you used-- energize.
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    This is exactly what we want to do.
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    Energize, as in Star Trek.
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    Yeah, this panel comes to an end.
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    And if you have any more questions
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    on all these Wikibase projects, talk.
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    - Please come tomorrow.
    - Have conversations.
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    This is what this conference is about.
  • 60:02 - 60:03
    Thank you very much.
  • 60:03 - 60:08
    (applause)
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