Languages as an asset: Ignacio Pérez at TEDxBarcelona
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0:16 - 0:19Well, thank you very much for being here.
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0:19 - 0:23My presentation will be
a bit shorter and simple. -
0:23 - 0:27But the message that I want
to transmit is really important. -
0:27 - 0:33Not only on a professional level
but more importantly on a personal one. -
0:33 - 0:38Well, I'll try to be as concise
as possible -
0:38 - 0:40so that when you leave this room,
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0:40 - 0:43you will have the same idea that I have
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0:43 - 0:48about feeling passionate not only about
languages, like I do, -
0:48 - 0:52but passionate about doing
what you like the most, all right? -
0:53 - 0:59So, to start with, I'd like you to look
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0:59 - 1:02at the screen
because I'm going to play a video. -
1:02 - 1:07This video is part
of the practical work that I did -
1:07 - 1:12for my Masters program in Teacher Training
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1:12 - 1:19where I had the chance to carry out
practical sessions in a different way -
1:19 - 1:24as well as experiments that somehow
have had such an impact -
1:24 - 1:27in my life that I'd like you
to be part of it. -
1:30 - 1:34Pay attention the the girl in the video
and listen carefully to what she says. -
1:36 - 1:41(Video) My name is Fátima.
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1:42 - 1:47I am 15 years old.
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1:49 - 1:56I live in Terrassa.
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1:56 - 2:01I study English.
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2:01 - 2:08Nice to meet you.
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2:08 - 2:09Bye-bye.
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2:10 - 2:16Well, as you know, this girl
was speaking in English -
2:16 - 2:19despite the fact that she is Deaf.
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2:19 - 2:23Having said that, the practical work
I did for the Sabadell Institute -
2:23 - 2:28included working with Deaf students who,
same as Fátima, hadn't learned -
2:28 - 2:32and hadn't had any contact
with the English language before. -
2:33 - 2:34So, we began from scratch.
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2:34 - 2:40And for me, the most important thing was,
when it comes to learn a language, -
2:40 - 2:43if students were focused
on the communicative side of it -
2:43 - 2:48and broke the barriers from
their hearing impairment. -
2:48 - 2:50As you could see,
she did not speak perfectly, -
2:51 - 2:53but isn't it true that you
could understand her? -
2:53 - 2:54Well, that's what really matters.
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2:55 - 3:02So, if she makes use of English
to communicate, as you could see. -
3:02 - 3:05And a little note:
she knows what she's saying, -
3:05 - 3:09because she's using
Catalan Sign Language all the time, -
3:09 - 3:13which is, let's say, her first language.
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3:13 - 3:17So, if she's able to learn a language
that she's not even able to hear, -
3:17 - 3:23then we are all able to learn languages.
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3:23 - 3:25Is that right? Yes or not?
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3:25 - 3:28Well, according to UNESCO,
and despite the fact that there are -
3:32 - 3:366,912 living languages in our planet,
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3:36 - 3:40here in our country,
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3:40 - 3:43we still struggle
to learn other languages. -
3:43 - 3:46(Laughter)
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3:46 - 3:48It's true. That's what it is.
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3:53 - 3:59Compare this to research done by CIS,
the Center for Social Studies, -
3:59 - 4:06which says that 60% of Spain's population
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4:06 - 4:09speak only one language,
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4:10 - 4:15and that 32% of people
can speak two languages, -
4:15 - 4:21and there is a remote 8% of people
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4:21 - 4:24who can speak three or more.
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4:24 - 4:25A lot, isn't it?
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4:25 - 4:29It doesn't seem to be as many people,
but in reality there are lots of us. -
4:29 - 4:31But, what does all this mean?
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4:31 - 4:33What am I trying to say with this?
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4:33 - 4:38That usually people get impatient
when learning a language, -
4:38 - 4:42they don't get it, do not know
how to pronounce it, do not care! -
4:42 - 4:43This is a matter of time.
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4:43 - 4:50My message is, try, again and again,
until you get it. -
4:50 - 4:56It doesn't matter if you make mistakes
and can't achieve the level you want yet. -
4:56 - 4:58Go with your own pace.
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4:58 - 5:01You'll get to the point
where you'll make it. -
5:01 - 5:07So, it is also very important to say
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5:07 - 5:11that there is a new approach
to language teaching, -
5:11 - 5:15based on a case study,
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5:15 - 5:21which was published
by the Evaluation Institute -
5:21 - 5:25of the Spanish Ministry of Education
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5:25 - 5:29where our country took part,
along with other 8 countries. -
5:29 - 5:34They then analyzed the level
of English-language learners. -
5:34 - 5:36From a certain sample of students, right?
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5:36 - 5:42And then, the approach they want
to have now, luckily, is as follows: -
5:42 - 5:48Learning English or any other language
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5:48 - 5:52is not just about studying.
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5:52 - 5:55As teachers, the mission
they have is not to teach a language -
5:55 - 6:00but also to teach to those learning
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6:00 - 6:02how to communicate.
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6:02 - 6:09That means that when you learn
a language you have to put aside -
6:09 - 6:14purist aspects from the past,
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6:14 - 6:16like if you don't know
the whole list of verbs, -
6:16 - 6:19then you do not know anything.
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6:19 - 6:23Not that. Most important is that
especially when you learn a language -
6:23 - 6:27it is a communicative tool
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6:27 - 6:31through which you can
connect with other people. -
6:31 - 6:34And that is really important.
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6:34 - 6:41Well, you know that here is
a little way ahead. -
6:41 - 6:45But I want to send you a message
and I want you to think -
6:45 - 6:48it is possible to learn more
than one language. -
6:48 - 6:52A foreign language, obviously.
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6:52 - 6:59And that can be achieved thanks to
motivation and thanks, especially, -
6:59 - 7:05that you are surrounded by an environment
that helps you to motivate -
7:05 - 7:09and bring out the best of yourself.
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7:09 - 7:16So you have seen that,
in this case, even though Fatima -
7:16 - 7:20having a hearing impairment
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7:20 - 7:24was able to communicate in English
and represent herself. -
7:24 - 7:26And she knows what she is saying.
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7:26 - 7:30And when there is written English,
because she has literacy skills, -
7:30 - 7:36she can manage to communicate,
write a simple letter. -
7:36 - 7:38But it's something.
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7:38 - 7:40In other words, do not despair, ever.
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7:40 - 7:43You always have to pull forward.
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7:43 - 7:50So, by that I mean
we can all achieve our goals. -
7:50 - 7:53Even if we don't get it on the first,
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7:53 - 7:56or the second, or the third try.
Who cares? -
7:56 - 7:59We have to get up and
we must move forward. -
7:59 - 8:03Because, sooner or later,
if we follow what we want, -
8:03 - 8:07our objectives, we will
end up getting them. -
8:07 - 8:15I considered life as a ladder, right?
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8:15 - 8:21Imagine then that this ladder
represents life -
8:21 - 8:23of each and every one of you.
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8:23 - 8:26We started from the bottom.
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8:26 - 8:30And we climb a step after
another and after another. -
8:30 - 8:34But sometimes the step can be very high.
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8:34 - 8:39Or we can fall.
Or we can slide back and forth. -
8:39 - 8:45Well, no matter. We must return
to rise and continue to rise. -
8:45 - 8:48Because, with effort,
things are accomplished. -
8:48 - 8:51So my message is simple.
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8:51 - 8:55My message is we always have to move on.
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8:55 - 9:00And however much it costs
start at the beginning... -
9:00 - 9:05To keep our feet on the ground
at all times is good, -
9:05 - 9:10but you have to give way,
you must leave room for hope. -
9:10 - 9:18Because hope makes us want
to go for what we want -
9:18 - 9:23and hope helps us
also to believe in ourselves. -
9:23 - 9:29Well, I have brought two dictionaries,
Okay? -
9:29 - 9:32I have a lot of love
for these two dictionaries, -
9:32 - 9:38because they are the first ones I bought
when I started studying Japanese. -
9:38 - 9:46I started studying Japanese when I was 16
because one day I decided -
9:46 - 9:50to go to the Consulate of Japan,
to see what I'd hear. -
9:50 - 9:51Just for fun. (Laughter)
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9:51 - 9:57At that time, think, because
there was no one studying manga -
9:57 - 10:03and when I, for example,
went to the consulate, at age 17 -
10:03 - 10:06they thought, "this guy is lost."
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10:06 - 10:09And then I went there and said:
"I want information about the country." -
10:09 - 10:13I got a lot of books,
I read them all during the summer, -
10:13 - 10:17and furthermore, there were also
some books where there was -
10:18 - 10:21a tiny introduction to Japanese language.
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10:21 - 10:23And you know what? I was fascinated.
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10:23 - 10:26And then I memorized it all.
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10:26 - 10:32To me a language is like
a card game or a board game. -
10:32 - 10:37I get informed of how the rules
work and what I do is simply -
10:37 - 10:40apply them and play the game.
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10:40 - 10:44That's really how I feel
when I speak in another language -
10:44 - 10:46other than my mother tongue.
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10:46 - 10:53Then when I got the books and I read
everything referring to Japanese -
10:53 - 11:00I decided to study
Japanese at a language school. -
11:00 - 11:06And, what happened? That's how I could
already read and write on day one. -
11:06 - 11:08And then, of course,
the teachers were surprised -
11:08 - 11:12and what they did was,
they give me extra exercises. -
11:12 - 11:17Because they saw that somehow,
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11:17 - 11:20I was a little more advanced
than the rest of the group. -
11:20 - 11:23But that happened because I was motivated,
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11:23 - 11:25not because I studied
Japanese all the time. -
11:25 - 11:29I want you to look at the dictionaries.
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11:29 - 11:34I do not know if you see much in them
but they are important! -
11:34 - 11:36Why? Because after I used them, poof!
Can you imagine? -
11:36 - 11:39In 1995, I started to study Japanese.
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11:39 - 11:43I have used them and I love them
because these dictionaries -
11:43 - 11:48helped me out of potholes,
of problems and you know what? -
11:48 - 11:54I have looked up many words
over 100 times. -
11:54 - 11:57Many times I have forgotten
words that I've learned. -
11:57 - 12:02But whatever. If I have learned
and I forget, or do not remember, -
12:02 - 12:06I consult the dictionary
and come back to learn them. -
12:06 - 12:09And this can also be applied in our lives.
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12:09 - 12:14This means that, much as you get initially
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12:14 - 12:19a sudden urge, something you wish to try,
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12:19 - 12:22you go back try and go back and try
again and again, -
12:22 - 12:27as I have done looking at dictionaries,
or doing homework -
12:27 - 12:30or reading you will come to do it.
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12:30 - 12:37So, see, all this I said is fine, right?
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12:37 - 12:40Everything is very nice,
but how is it done? -
12:40 - 12:41How do we get it?
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12:41 - 12:46Well, let's see. It's true
that in Spain we have not -
12:46 - 12:50a very favorable situation
to learn languages. -
12:50 - 12:53But I have to tell you
that this is changing. -
12:53 - 12:56Luckily, now in schools what is being done
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12:56 - 13:01is trying to work,
for example with English, -
13:01 - 13:05not only teaching English but
also in other subjects. -
13:05 - 13:12What is called CLIL,
Content Language Integrated Learning. -
13:12 - 13:18That is, learn English
but also learning other subjects -
13:18 - 13:22as mathematics, physics,
chemistry, history, simultaneously. -
13:22 - 13:25These I've tried during
practicals that I did -
13:25 - 13:28and the truth is that it is
an unforgettable experience. -
13:28 - 13:34And with deaf children I have noticed
that I have gone a step further -
13:34 - 13:39because I really felt very satisfied
to see that these kids, -
13:39 - 13:43were inching forward despite
their hearing impairment -
13:44 - 13:47and even though they had
no idea what English was -
13:47 - 13:50before they came to this school.
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13:50 - 13:58So another thing that I want
to mention is that also -
13:58 - 14:01the current landscape
is changing here at home. -
14:01 - 14:07Previously, we saw only dubbed films
and now, thankfully, -
14:07 - 14:10there is an increasing
trend of watching movies -
14:10 - 14:12in the original version with subtitles.
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14:12 - 14:16This is going well.
In other European countries -
14:16 - 14:20they have already done this for some
time, and now us, little by little, -
14:20 - 14:23we are getting used to this system also.
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14:23 - 14:26Well, obviously, this is
a personal choice. -
14:26 - 14:31Moreover, the family,
teachers, friends also -
14:31 - 14:35are fundamental elements
that influence your environment. -
14:35 - 14:42So it is very important that they
favor your learning, -
14:42 - 14:44not only of language
but of something else. -
14:44 - 14:47I want to give you an example.
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14:47 - 14:49When I was in high school,
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14:49 - 14:53I combined it with Japanese.
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14:53 - 14:56Because I already told you
I started at 17. -
14:56 - 14:57So I loved it.
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14:57 - 15:01I was going to Japanese classes,
I was the happiest kid, -
15:01 - 15:04although my classmates laughed at me.
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15:04 - 15:07Because, of course, what is Nacho doing,
the weird guy, studying Japanese? -
15:08 - 15:11At that time, there was
hardly any Manga or anything. -
15:11 - 15:15Sure, they thought they would study
German or English, etc. -
15:15 - 15:20Then, one day my tutor called my parents
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15:20 - 15:26and said that she wanted
to have an interview with them. -
15:26 - 15:32Then, when my mother showed up,
she explained that she did not understand -
15:32 - 15:36why I was taking notes in Spanish,
Catalan and Japanese. -
15:36 - 15:38(Laughter)
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15:38 - 15:39She did not understand.
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15:39 - 15:42And I was there, so happy, taking notes.
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15:42 - 15:45Because, see, why would I want to write
" in-dus-tri-al re-vo-lu-tion" -
15:45 - 15:48when I could use
just two or three characters? -
15:48 - 15:50Duh?
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15:50 - 15:52(Laughter)
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15:52 - 15:57(Applause)
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15:57 - 15:59All my mother said was:
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15:59 - 16:02- Let's see, my son does his homework?
- Yes. -
16:02 - 16:04- My son goes to school and attends?
- Yes. -
16:04 - 16:08"So why do you care
how he writes or take notes -
16:08 - 16:12if the result is the same?"
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16:12 - 16:14It is true, right?
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16:14 - 16:25Then, later, since I did not like
secondary studies, -
16:25 - 16:29I simply devoted myself
to study languages. -
16:29 - 16:33But then, there came a point where
yes I had studied languages, -
16:33 - 16:36everything about them,
but something was missing. -
16:36 - 16:41So, at age 25, not so long ago,
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16:41 - 16:44I got into university because
I had never been to university. -
16:44 - 16:48And then I discovered, of course,
I could mix, match languages -
16:48 - 16:51I learned more languages;
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16:51 - 16:55not only languages but techniques
and interpretive strategies, -
16:55 - 16:58well that was a spectacular combination.
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16:58 - 17:03I always left classes
with my eyes like this. -
17:03 - 17:05Because, of course,
there were things I didn't know. -
17:05 - 17:09And I could reinforce
all the knowledge I had obtained -
17:09 - 17:16studying languages
and developing them through my career. -
17:16 - 17:19So, with that I want to say
although the environment -
17:19 - 17:25isn't the best, and is maybe even
detrimental, do not despair. -
17:25 - 17:30Seek your talents and above all,
never surrender. -
17:30 - 17:35And, especially, is never too late
to realize your dreams. -
17:35 - 17:41Perseverance has been always a key
to achieve anything I've dreamed of. -
17:41 - 17:46And in this case, one of my dreams
was to help people understand -
17:46 - 17:52and remove any barriers in communication.
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17:52 - 17:56Consequently I have had the opportunity
to live very rewarding experiences -
17:56 - 18:00not only professionally but personally.
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18:00 - 18:05For example, the fact that I am here
with all of you, -
18:05 - 18:08sharing my experiences.
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18:08 - 18:11Therefore, I want to say
thank you very much. -
18:11 - 18:14(Applause)
- Title:
- Languages as an asset: Ignacio Pérez at TEDxBarcelona
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Ignacio Perez shares his experience as a translator and interpreter, as well as his personal journey of how he got started in the world of languages and shares his teacher training experiences with Deaf students, in which students communicate using Catalan sign language and English without hearing a word of the language. Based on this example, he argues that languages are an enormous source of wealth that can empower us despite any difficulties in learning.
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