ADHD: A case of over diagnosis? | Dr. David A. Sousa |TEDxASB
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0:04 - 0:07Madeleine Heide: Hello, good evening.
I'm Madeleine Maceda Heide, -
0:07 - 0:11I'm the assistant superintendent
for the American School of Bombay. -
0:11 - 0:15We're so fortunate to have
Dr David Sousa with us tonight. -
0:15 - 0:19As a consultant
in educational neuroscience, -
0:19 - 0:22working with educators in schools
all around the world, -
0:22 - 0:26and having writen 16 books
and dozens of articles, -
0:26 - 0:31Dr Sousa is highly knowledgeable
about how current research on the brain -
0:31 - 0:36can be used to form strategies
for improving learning. -
0:36 - 0:40Dr Sousa started out
with a bachelor's degree in chemistry -
0:40 - 0:42from Massachussets State College
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0:42 - 0:45and then he got a master of arts
teaching degree in science -
0:45 - 0:49from Harvard University
and a doctorate from Rutgers. -
0:49 - 0:53He taught high school science,
was a K-12 director of science, -
0:53 - 0:56a supervisor of instruction
and a district superintendent -
0:56 - 0:58in New Jersey.
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0:58 - 1:02He's also been an adjunct professor
of education at Seaton Hall University -
1:02 - 1:05and a visiting lecturer
at Rutgers University -
1:05 - 1:10and a past president of the National
Staff Development Council. -
1:10 - 1:16Tonight, Dr Sousa is here to speak
with us about the topic of ADHD, -
1:16 - 1:20or attention deficit
hyperactivity disorder; -
1:20 - 1:23a condition that affects
many children around the world -
1:23 - 1:29and is often un-diagnosed,
misdiagnosed, and over-diagnosed. -
1:29 - 1:35For parents and educators, ADHD poses
complex questions of how best to serve -
1:35 - 1:39students who have ADHD
within our existing systems. -
1:39 - 1:43I'm delighted to present
such a knowledgeable, incredible educator, -
1:43 - 1:46to enlighten us
about this important topic. -
1:46 - 1:48Please, welcome Dr. David Sousa.
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1:48 - 1:51(Applause)
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1:59 - 2:00David Sousa: I'd like to talk to you
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2:00 - 2:04about a topic that has concerned me
greatly in the last few years. -
2:05 - 2:06We know that there's a condition
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2:06 - 2:09known as attention deficit
hyperactivity disorder; -
2:10 - 2:13probably a genetic condition
that's a spectral disorder, -
2:13 - 2:15from very mild to extreme.
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2:16 - 2:20People with mild form of ADHD
probably don't even know they have it -
2:20 - 2:24or they've adapted to it very easily.
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2:24 - 2:29Those with more severe forms of it
do have trouble concentrating -
2:29 - 2:31and attention, of course,
is very important -
2:31 - 2:33if you want to learn something.
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2:33 - 2:36Most learning occurs when we are focused
on what we're trying to learn. -
2:36 - 2:40So, attention is a major contributor
to our ability to learn. -
2:40 - 2:43What I'm concerned about is the idea
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2:43 - 2:48that everytime a student is misbehaving
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2:48 - 2:52or not paying attention,
that maybe something is wrong with him. -
2:52 - 2:53Now, don't get me wrong.
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2:54 - 2:57Any person who has the legitimate disease,
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2:57 - 3:02who really is diagnosed as having
the condition known as ADHD, -
3:02 - 3:06should definitely get the medical
and other types of therapy -
3:06 - 3:09that are available for those people.
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3:09 - 3:14What I'm concerned about is the idea
that we jump too quickly to the conclusion -
3:14 - 3:17that a misbehaving student
or a student who's not focused, -
3:17 - 3:19or students doing something else
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3:19 - 3:21while we expect them
to do the task at hand, -
3:21 - 3:23may have the disorder.
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3:23 - 3:25So, I'm going to talk you about
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3:25 - 3:30ways in which kids can behave
as though they have ADHD, -
3:30 - 3:31but not have it.
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3:31 - 3:34And I worry that we don't give
enough attention to that. -
3:34 - 3:39We're too quick to jump to the idea
that lack of attention is a disorder. -
3:39 - 3:41Attention is very important;
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3:41 - 3:44not paying attention
can get you in trouble -
3:44 - 3:46if you're not reading the signs.
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3:46 - 3:51But attention is also critical
for being able to acquire information -
3:51 - 3:53and to learn skills.
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3:53 - 3:56A lot of this work has been done
for over the past 20 years, -
3:56 - 4:01looking at what are the cerebral systems
that make up attention. -
4:02 - 4:04One of the things we've come
to the conclusion -
4:04 - 4:07is that there are three systems involved
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4:07 - 4:13in the attention apparatus of our brain.
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4:13 - 4:15The first system is what we call
the alerting system. -
4:15 - 4:18This is where our brain
perceives something in the environment, -
4:18 - 4:21some signal in the environment
that lets us know -
4:21 - 4:23that there's something
we ought to pay attention to. -
4:23 - 4:26Remember, the brain's main job
is to keep us alive. -
4:26 - 4:29And so when there's something
in the environment that's unexpected, -
4:29 - 4:33the brain has to assess it to decide
whether or not it's going to be a threat -
4:33 - 4:34to our existence.
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4:35 - 4:37So, alerting signals are very important.
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4:37 - 4:39The next thing we try to do is say,
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4:39 - 4:44"Look, turn towards the source
of that information, that unusual input -
4:44 - 4:46to see whether or not it's a threat."
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4:46 - 4:49And then, after we see what's going on,
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4:49 - 4:51we have to make a decision on what to do.
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4:51 - 4:55A simple example would be
if you're walking through the park -
4:55 - 4:57and all of a sudden
you hear a rustle in the bushes. -
4:57 - 4:59Well, that's the alerting signal.
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4:59 - 5:02And then you turn toward that noise
to see whether or not -
5:02 - 5:04the cause of is going to be a problem.
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5:04 - 5:06And if a rabbit jumps up,
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5:06 - 5:10then we make the decision,
"this is not a threat," and we move on. -
5:10 - 5:13On the other hand, if that happens
to be a snake that pops up, -
5:13 - 5:15then, of course,
the decision is quite different, -
5:15 - 5:18which is to get away from that
as quickly as possible. -
5:18 - 5:23Now, with these three systems
necessary to receive information, -
5:23 - 5:26to orient toward it and to make
a decision about what to do, -
5:26 - 5:28things can go wrong here and there.
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5:29 - 5:34Some of these things that can go wrong
have genetic predispositions for them. -
5:35 - 5:38But there are also other things
that can cause a distraction; -
5:38 - 5:41that can cause us to look like
we're not paying attention -
5:41 - 5:44when we don't really have
a medical disorder. -
5:44 - 5:46So, let me to take a few minutes
to talk about that. -
5:46 - 5:49I guess the reason
I'm really concerned about this -
5:49 - 5:52is the incredible increase
in the number of children -
5:52 - 5:57who have been diagnosed with ADHD,
medically diagnosed with ADHD. -
5:57 - 5:58Now, this information comes
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5:58 - 6:01from the Center for Disease Control
in the United States. -
6:01 - 6:07And as you can see, in 2003,
roughly eight percent of school children, -
6:07 - 6:11or children between the ages
of four and 17 were diagnosed, -
6:11 - 6:13medically diagnosed with ADHD.
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6:13 - 6:18That number, just four years later,
jumped to nine and a half percent. -
6:18 - 6:20But one thing we have to remember
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6:20 - 6:24is that this is voluntary reporting
to the Center for Disease Control, -
6:24 - 6:26and there are researchers out there
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6:26 - 6:31who believe that a lot
of the medically diagnosed individuals -
6:31 - 6:32were not being reported.
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6:32 - 6:37And so, in 2010, they got together
and they called and contacted -
6:37 - 6:43over 1000 medical practitioners
around the country, and asked them -
6:43 - 6:48how many referrals they made
for medical diagnosis of ADHD. -
6:48 - 6:51And their results were quite surprising.
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6:51 - 6:56By the way, in 2007,
that number reached five, -
6:56 - 7:00almost five and a half million children
diagnosed with ADHD. -
7:00 - 7:04When they did that study in 2010,
the number was quite different; -
7:04 - 7:10almost 18 percent,
almost one out of five children -
7:10 - 7:12were being diagnosed with this disorder.
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7:12 - 7:17And that translates
to almost 10.5 million children. -
7:17 - 7:20Well, why is this? What's going on here?
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7:20 - 7:23Look at this almost exponential leap
in just seven years, -
7:23 - 7:27from seven and a half percent
to more than double, at 18 percent. -
7:27 - 7:30Are we getting better at diagnosing it?
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7:30 - 7:32Or is there something else
in the environment -
7:32 - 7:36that's prompting this behavior,
that's causing it to come forth -
7:36 - 7:40and asking us to take a look at it
and say, "Yep, that's ADHD!"? -
7:40 - 7:42I don't think so.
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7:42 - 7:44I think what's happening here
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7:44 - 7:49is that we're too quick to jump
at that notion that it's ADHD, -
7:49 - 7:51without looking at other possibilities.
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7:51 - 7:55And so, let's take a look at what
some of those possibilities are. -
7:55 - 7:57What kind of behavior?
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7:57 - 8:00What kind of conditions
could produce ADHD-like behavior -
8:00 - 8:05when, in fact, the person
does not have ADHD? -
8:05 - 8:08Diet: let's take a look at diet first.
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8:08 - 8:13And one of our biggest things
to consider here is caffeine. -
8:13 - 8:16Caffeine is a stumulant,
we know it's a brain stumulant, -
8:16 - 8:17there have been studies that show
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8:17 - 8:22that participants who take some caffeine
shortly before cognitive tasks -
8:22 - 8:24will do better that those who don't.
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8:24 - 8:28It's not a long term effect,
but it is an effect -
8:28 - 8:30in improving cognitive processing.
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8:30 - 8:35Now, the recommended maximum dose
of caffeine for adolescents -
8:35 - 8:37is about 85mg a day.
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8:37 - 8:39That's maximum dose.
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8:39 - 8:42Now, take a look at a cup or coffee
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8:42 - 8:46and that will have somewhere
between 90 and 100mg -
8:46 - 8:48depending on how it's brewed.
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8:49 - 8:53Now, if 85mg, as what we say
is the maximum amount for adolescents, -
8:53 - 8:57let's take a look at some of the things
that adolescents put in their bodies. -
8:57 - 8:59And these may look familiar to you.
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8:59 - 9:01In fact, if you walk
around school grounds, -
9:01 - 9:05you see cans of these things
on the ground, empty cans of them. -
9:05 - 9:08And now let me show you
how much caffeine they have. -
9:08 - 9:11And by the way, this is for eight ounces.
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9:11 - 9:14Many of those are products
that are sold in 12 ounce cans, -
9:14 - 9:18which means it's 50 per cent more
than the amounts you see there. -
9:18 - 9:22So, what happens is when you get
too much caffeine in your body, -
9:22 - 9:25if you've ever had too much
caffeinated beverages -
9:25 - 9:27such as coffee or too much tea,
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9:27 - 9:30then you know what happens;
you get irritable and you get hyperactive. -
9:31 - 9:36Caffeine is one of the major contributors,
I believe, to hyperactivity -
9:36 - 9:39in our school children.
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9:39 - 9:43And it doesn't mean that they need
to be diagnosed with a disorder; -
9:43 - 9:45it means you have to watch their diet.
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9:45 - 9:48Let's take a look
at another one: aspartame. -
9:48 - 9:53Remember, aspartame is perfectly safe
for adults in moderate quantities, -
9:53 - 9:56but it's all over the place, it's not just
in your artificial sweetener. -
9:56 - 10:00In North America, there are
over 6 000 products alone -
10:00 - 10:02that contain aspartame.
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10:02 - 10:03And I wouldn't be surprised
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10:03 - 10:06if there are a lot of those products
right here, as well. -
10:06 - 10:11And now let's take a look at what
the average recommended dose -
10:11 - 10:13of this particular chemical.
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10:13 - 10:18Again, remember, it's safe for most adults
in reasonable quantities. -
10:18 - 10:22What I'm concerned about is the effect
it has on the growing brain. -
10:22 - 10:25Remember, we're talking
about developing brains here. -
10:25 - 10:27That's the key; developing brains.
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10:27 - 10:32And if the maximum dose
is about eight mg a day, -
10:32 - 10:36what we find in a recent study
done at youth in Chicago -
10:36 - 10:41show that they were getting anywhere
from 100 to 250mg a day -
10:41 - 10:44from the diet sodas they were drinking,
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10:44 - 10:47from other products that they had
in the course of the day, -
10:47 - 10:52and, as you can see,
that's 10, 15, 20 times or more, -
10:52 - 10:55up to 30 times more,
than the amount that's recommended. -
10:55 - 10:57And we have studies that show
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10:57 - 11:02that excess aspartate in the body,
especially of younger children, -
11:02 - 11:04does produced hyperactivity.
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11:04 - 11:08So that's another diet element
we need to look at. -
11:08 - 11:12Food preservatives are also
an interesting thing to take a look at. -
11:12 - 11:15Here, there are studies
that look at three particularly, -
11:15 - 11:19and those are sodium benzoate,
benzoic acid, and the food coloring. -
11:21 - 11:22When they've looked at these,
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11:22 - 11:25they find that excess amounts
of these products -
11:25 - 11:27also cause hyperactivity;
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11:27 - 11:29a number of studies have shown that.
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11:29 - 11:30Now again, I want to remind you:
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11:30 - 11:34these are perfectly safe for most adults
in reasonable quantities. -
11:34 - 11:39The problem is how much
you're taking in the young body. -
11:39 - 11:42And why are kids getting
more food preservatives?? -
11:42 - 11:44Because they're eating
more preserved foods. -
11:44 - 11:47In many homes, they have
a preserved breakfast, -
11:47 - 11:49preserved snacks, preserved lunch.
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11:49 - 11:51Anything you take out of the freezer,
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11:51 - 11:54anything that is packaged
has some kind of preservative in it -
11:54 - 11:59and we don't spend enough time
cooking fresh foods for our kids. -
11:59 - 12:03And what happens then is they get
these excess dosage of food preservatives, -
12:03 - 12:08and excess quantities in children
can produce hyperactivity. -
12:09 - 12:11Sleep deprivation is another big one.
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12:12 - 12:16Studies in the United States and Canada
show that the average high school student -
12:16 - 12:21gets about five to six hours
of sleep per school night. -
12:21 - 12:27Yet, the body clock for most kids
is programmed to eight or nine hours. -
12:27 - 12:31And so they're only getting six hours,
they get up, they have sleep deprivation, -
12:31 - 12:34the sleep hormone called melatonin
is still present in the blood -
12:34 - 12:36and, as far as we know,
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12:36 - 12:38there are just two ways
to get melatonin out of the blood. -
12:38 - 12:42Either with light; light helps
to drive it out of the system -
12:42 - 12:44and to shut down the melatonin pump,
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12:44 - 12:47or to finish the sleep cycle
as some kids do; -
12:47 - 12:52either on the bus on their ways to school
or, sometimes, in first period class. -
12:52 - 12:56They are just doing what nature
tells them to do; finish the sleep cycle. -
12:56 - 12:59If they don't do that, then
they have sleep deprivation -
12:59 - 13:04and that can make them quite irritable
and also hyperactive. -
13:04 - 13:10This feeds into another condition
we need to look at, and that is stress. -
13:10 - 13:13Children can be under all kinds of stress:
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13:13 - 13:15stress at home
because of domestic violence, -
13:15 - 13:19stress because of a bullying siblings,
stress because of drugs, -
13:19 - 13:22stress because of pressure
from the parents to do well -
13:22 - 13:25and, you know, "Make sure
you get all those A's", -
13:25 - 13:26and the pressure of that.
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13:26 - 13:31It produces stress, and whenever
we have stress in our mind, -
13:31 - 13:34it produces an extra amount of cortisol.
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13:34 - 13:36Cortisol is the stress hormone.
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13:36 - 13:39We always have a little bit
in our blood, it helps keep us alert. -
13:39 - 13:42But when we are under stress,
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13:42 - 13:46the amount of cortisol dumped in the blood
increases dramatically, -
13:46 - 13:48the purpose of which,
is to say to the brain, -
13:48 - 13:50"Hey, try to find out
what the source of the stress is -
13:50 - 13:52and eliminate it if you can."
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13:54 - 13:58When you're under stress, this cortisol,
if it stays in the body for too long, -
13:58 - 14:04it produces hyperactive baby.
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14:04 - 14:07Now, there's an unfortunated
downward spiral here -
14:07 - 14:10because when you have
excess cortisol in the blood, -
14:10 - 14:13you don't sleep very well
so you get insomnia. -
14:13 - 14:17The insomnia then is sleep deprivation,
which then causes more stress, -
14:17 - 14:19and you have to try to break that cycle.
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14:19 - 14:24Anyway, the result is some pretty
jittery and hyperactive people. -
14:25 - 14:29Another one I think we need to look at
is not being taught the rules of behavior. -
14:29 - 14:31Many of you here,
probably when you were children, -
14:31 - 14:33you had dinner with your parents
or your caregivers, -
14:33 - 14:36you sat down, you talked
about what's going on in school -
14:36 - 14:41and they found out how things were going,
they taught you by their way. -
14:41 - 14:42I know my parents did.
-
14:42 - 14:44"There are some things
that you can do here at home -
14:44 - 14:47that you'd better not do in school
and you'd better not do in church -
14:47 - 14:49and you'd better not do
in the supermarket." -
14:49 - 14:52And so we learned that there are
certain rules of behavior -
14:52 - 14:54that went with certain environments.
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14:54 - 14:58What's happening today is they don't have
that conversation very often. -
14:58 - 15:01A surprising study that came out
just two years ago -
15:01 - 15:07show that kids spend 15 times more time
in the course of the week -
15:07 - 15:13atttending to their technology
than they do talking to their caregivers. -
15:13 - 15:16So they're spending that much more time
connected to their outside world -
15:16 - 15:18than to their inside world,
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15:18 - 15:22where they should be learning
what the rules of behavior are. -
15:22 - 15:26So, these kids are not malevolent,
they're just ignorant. -
15:26 - 15:29And they need to be taught
what those rules of behavior are. -
15:29 - 15:32They don't have ADHD;
they just don't have the information -
15:32 - 15:35they need to know how to behave
in certain circumstances. -
15:36 - 15:40Another one I'd like to look at
is school-induced ADHD. -
15:40 - 15:42You might think about that for a moment.
-
15:42 - 15:48What does he possibly meant by that?
What can we mean by school-induced ADHD? -
15:48 - 15:52Well, we got a 21st century brain
coming across our thresholds -
15:52 - 15:57and that 21st century brain is now
used to interact with this environment, -
15:57 - 16:00to be part of the learning process,
to search out information. -
16:00 - 16:02That's what that brain is used to now.
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16:02 - 16:07But if you have a school where it's just,
"Sit down, listen to the teacher, -
16:07 - 16:10listen to the sage on the stage
give the information," -
16:10 - 16:14then the environment is incompatible
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16:14 - 16:17with the way the brain is trying to learn.
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16:17 - 16:23And so, one way you could
summarize it is to say that -
16:23 - 16:26hat I mean by that is
you've got a 21st-century brain -
16:26 - 16:28in a 20th-century school.
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16:28 - 16:30And these kids get restless,
they don't see the meaning -
16:30 - 16:33of what they're learning,
and that's the result. -
16:33 - 16:35They become hyperactive.
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16:35 - 16:40And there are a couple of other things too
that can cause these ADHD-like symptoms: -
16:40 - 16:43environmental factors
such as drugs, of course, -
16:43 - 16:46and also heavy metals in the environment.
-
16:46 - 16:48We've done a pretty good job
of getting lead -
16:48 - 16:50reduced dramatically in our environment.
-
16:50 - 16:53But there are some others,
cadmium now is becoming a problem -
16:53 - 16:58because cadmium was in batteries
up until about ten years ago. -
16:59 - 17:03That cadmium now, because those batteries
were thrown away in the garbage dumps -
17:03 - 17:10and as the batteries disintegrate,
the cadmium bleaches into the water table -
17:10 - 17:12and eventually into our environment.
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17:12 - 17:15So, that's another one to watch for.
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17:15 - 17:20And heavy metal poisoning,
one of the signs of it is hyperactivity. -
17:20 - 17:25And also, of course, physical disorders
such as obsessive compulsive behavior -
17:25 - 17:27and psychological disorders too.
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17:27 - 17:31Dyslexia: the child's having trouble
reading the information, -
17:31 - 17:35then becomes restless and hyperactive.
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17:35 - 17:38So, my whole purpose here today is to say:
-
17:38 - 17:42look, kids will be kids,
they'll act out, they'll misbehave, -
17:43 - 17:44their attention will drift
-
17:44 - 17:47because they've found
something else that captures it. -
17:47 - 17:50It doesn't mean they have
a psychological disorder -
17:51 - 17:53and some of these other things.
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17:53 - 17:55All I'm saying is we want to make sure
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17:55 - 17:58that before we put
a medical diagnosis on the kid -
17:58 - 18:02and say, "You have to go on medication,
prescription medication," -
18:02 - 18:05that we are sure we've looked
at all these other things, -
18:05 - 18:10checked out all these other possibilities
before we decide that medical evaluation -
18:10 - 18:12is their final resort.
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18:12 - 18:14Thank you very much.
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18:14 - 18:17(Applause)
- Title:
- ADHD: A case of over diagnosis? | Dr. David A. Sousa |TEDxASB
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Dr. David A. Sousa is an international consultant in educational neuroscience and author of more than a dozen books that suggest ways that educators and parents can translate current brain research into strategies for improving learning.
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