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I am British.
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(Laughter)
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(Applause)
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Never before have the phrase
"I am British" elicited so much pity.
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I come from an island
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where many of us like to believe
there's been a lot of continuity
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over the last thousand years.
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We tend to have historically
imposed change on others
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but done much less of it ourselves.
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So it came as an immense shock to me
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when I woke up on the morning
of the 24th of June
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to discover that my country had voted
to leave the European Union,
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my Prime Minister had resigned,
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and Scotland was considering a referendum
that could bring to an end
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the very existence of the United Kingdom.
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So that was an immense shock for me,
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and it was an immense
shock for many people,
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but it was also something that,
over the following several days,
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created a complete political meltdown
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in my country.
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There were calls for a second referendum,
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almost as if, following a sports match,
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we could ask the opposition for a replay.
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Everybody was blaming everybody else.
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People blamed the Prime Minister
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for calling the referendum
in the first place.
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They blamed the leader of the opposition
for not fighting it hard enough.
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The young accused the old.
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The educated blamed
the less well-educated.
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That complete meltdown was made even worse
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by the most tragic element of it:
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levels of xenophobia and racist abuse
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in the streets of Britain at a level
that I have never seen before
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in my lifetime.
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People are now talking about whether
my country is becoming a little England,
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or, as one of my colleagues put it,
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whether we're about to become
a 1950s nostalgia theme park
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floating in the Atlantic Ocean.
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(Laughter)
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But my question is really,
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should we have the degree of shock
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that we've experienced since?
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Was it something
that took place overnight?
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Or are there deeper structural factors
that have led us to where we are today?
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So I want to take a step back
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and ask two very basic questions.
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First, what does Brexit represent,
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not just for my country,
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but for all of us around the world?
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And second, what can we do about it?
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How should we all respond?
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So first, what does Brexit represent?
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Hindsight is a wonderful thing.
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Brexit teaches us many things
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about our society
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and about societies around the world.
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It highlights in ways that we seem
embarrassingly unaware of
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how divided our societies are.
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The vote split along lines of age,
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education, class, and geography.
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Young people didn't turn out
to vote in great numbers,
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but those that did wanted to remain.
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Older people really wanted
to leave the European Union.
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Geographically, it was London and Scotland
that most strongly committed
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to being part of the European Union,
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while in other parts of the country,
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there was very strong ambivalence.
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Those divisions are things we really
need to recognize and take seriously,
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but more profoundly,
the vote teaches us something
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about the nature of politics today.
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Contemporary politics is no longer
just about right and left.
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It's no longer just about tax and spend.
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It's about globalization.
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The fault line of contemporary politics is
between those that embrace globalization
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and those that fear globalization.
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(Applause)
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If we look at why those
who wanted to leave --
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we call them "Leavers,"
as opposed to "Remainers" --
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we see two factors in the opinion polls
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that really mattered.
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The first was immigration,
and the second sovereignty,
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and these represent a desire
for people to take back control
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of their own lives,
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and the feeling that they
are unrepresented by politicians.
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But those ideas are ones
that signify fear and alienation.
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They represent a retreat
back towards nationalism and borders
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in ways that many of us would reject.
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What I want to suggest is the picture
is more complicated than that,
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that liberal internationalists,
like myself,
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and I firmly include
myself in that picture,
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need to write ourselves
back into the picture
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in order to understand
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how we've got to where we are today.
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When we look at the voting patterns
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across the United Kingdom,
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we can visibly see the divisions.
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The blue areas show Remain,
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and the red areas Leave.
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When I looked at this,
what personally struck me
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was the very little time in my life
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I've actually spent
in many of the red areas.
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I suddenly realized that,
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looking at the top 50 areas in the U.K.
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that have the strongest Leave vote,
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I've spent a combined total
of four days of my life in those areas.
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In some of those places,
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I didn't even know the names
of the voting districts.
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It was a real shock to me,
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and it suggested that people like me
who think of ourselves as inclusive,
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open, and tolerant,
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perhaps don't know
our own countries and societies
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nearly as well as we like to believe.
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(Applause)
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And the challenge that comes from that
is we need to find a new way
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to narrate globalization to those people,
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to recognize that for those people who
have not necessarily been to University,
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who haven't necessarily
grown up with the Internet,
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that don't get opportunities to travel,
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they may be unpersuaded by the narrative
that we find persuasive
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in our often liberal bubbles.
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(Applause)
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It means that we need to reach out
more broadly and understand.
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In the Leave vote, a minority have peddled
the politics of fear and hatred,
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creating lies and mistrust
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around, for instance,
the idea that the vote on Europe
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could reduce the number of refugees
and asylum seekers coming to Europe,
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when the vote on leaving had nothing
to do with immigration
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from outside the European Union.
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But for a significant majority
of the Leave voters,
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the concern was disillusionment
with the political establishment.
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This was a protest vote for many,
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a sense that nobody represented them,
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that they couldn't find a political party
that spoke for them,
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and so they rejected
that political establishment.
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This replicates around Europe
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and much of the liberal democratic world.
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We see it with the rise in popularity
of Donald Trump in the United States,
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with the growing nationalism
of Viktor Orbán in Hungary,
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with the increase in popularity
of Marine Le Pen in France.
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The specter of Brexit
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is in all of our societies.
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So the question I think we need to ask
is my second question,
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which is how should we
collectively respond?
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For all of us who care
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about creating liberal, open,
tolerant societies,
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we urgently need a new vision,
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a vision of a more tolerant,
inclusive globalization,
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one that brings people with us
rather than leaving them behind.
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That vision of globalization
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is one that has to start by a recognition
of the positive benefits of globalization.
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The consensus amongst economists
is that free trade,
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the movement of capital,
the movement of people across borders,
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benefit everyone on aggregate.
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The consensus amongst
international relations scholars
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is that globalization
brings interdependence,
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which brings cooperation and peace.
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But globalization also has
redistributive effects.
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It creates winners and losers.
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To take the example of migration,
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we know that immigration is a net
positive for the economy as a whole
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under almost all circumstances.
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But we also have to be very aware
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that there are redistributive
consequences,
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that importantly, low-skilled immigration
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can lead to a reduction in wages
for the most impoverished in our societies
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and also put pressure on house prices.
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That doesn't detract from the fact
that it's positive,
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but it means more people
have to share in those benefits
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and recognize them.
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In 2002, the former Secretary-General
of the United Nations Kofi Annan
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gave a speech at Yale University,
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and that speech was the on the topic
of inclusive globalization.
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That was the speech
in which he coined that term.
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And he said, and I paraphrase,
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"The glass house of globalization
has to be open to all
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if it is to remain secure.
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Bigotry and ignorance
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are the ugly face
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of exclusionary
and antagonistic globalization."
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That idea of inclusive globalization
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was briefly revived in 2008
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in a conference on progressive governance
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involving many of the leaders
of European countries.
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But amid austerity
and the financial crisis of 2008,
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the concept disappeared
almost with a trace.
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Globalization has been taken
to support a neoliberal agenda.
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It's perceived to be
part of an elite agenda
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rather than something that benefits all.
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And it needs to be reclaimed
on a far more inclusive basis
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than it is today.
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So the question is,
how can we achieve that goal?
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How can we balance on the one hand
addressing fear and alienation
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while on the other hand
refusing vehemently
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to give in to xenophobia and nationalism?
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That is the question for all of us.
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And I think, as a social scientist,
that social science
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offers some places to start.
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Our transformation has to be about
both ideas and about material change,
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and I want to give you four ideas
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as a starting point.
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The first relates to the idea
of civic education.
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What stands out from Brexit
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is the gap between public perception
and empirical reality.
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It's been suggested that we've moved
to a post-factual society,
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where evidence and truth no longer matter,
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and lies have equal status
to the clarity of evidence.
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So how can we --
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(Applause) --
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how can we rebuild respect for truth
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and evidence into our liberal democracies?
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It has to begin with education,
but it has to start with the recognition
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that there are huge gaps.
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In 2014, the pollster Ipsos MORI published
a survey on attitudes to immigration,
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and it showed that as numbers
of immigrants increase,
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so public concern with immigration
also increases,
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although it obviously didn't
unpack causality,
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because this could equally be to do
not so much with numbers
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but the political
and media narrative around it.
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But the same survey
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also revealed
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huge public misinformation
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and misunderstanding
about the nature of immigration.
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For example, in these attitudes
in the United Kingdom,
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the public believed that levels of asylum
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were a greater proportion
of immigration than they were,
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but they also believed the levels
of educational migration
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were far lower as a proportion
of overall migration
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than they actually are.
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So we have to address
this misinformation,
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the gap between perception and reality
on key aspects of globalization.
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And that can't just be something
that's left to our schools,
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although that's important
to begin at an early age.
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It has to be about lifelong
civic participation
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and public engagement
that we all encourage as societies.
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The second thing that I think
is an opportunity
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is the idea to encourage
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more interaction
across diverse communities.
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(Applause)
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One of the things that stands out
for me very strikingly,
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looking at immigration attitudes
in the United Kingdom,
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is that ironically, the regions
of my country that are
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the most tolerant of immigrants
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have the highest numbers of immigrants.
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So for instance, London and the Southeast
have the highest numbers of immigrants,
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and they are also by far
the most tolerant areas.
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It's those areas of the country
that have the lowest levels of immigration
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that actually are the most exclusionary
and intolerant towards migrants.
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So we need to encourage exchange programs.
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We need to ensure that older generations
who maybe can't travel get access
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to the Internet.
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We need to encourage,
even on a local and national level,
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more movement, more participation,
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more interaction with people
who we don't know
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and whose views we might
not necessarily agree with.
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The third thing that I think
is crucial, though,
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and this is really fundamental,
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is that we have to ensure
that everybody shares
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in the benefits of globalization.
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This illustration from the Financial Times
post-Brexit is really striking.
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It shows tragically that those people
who voted to leave the European Union
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were those who actually benefited
the most materially
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from trade with the European Union.
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But the problem is that those people
in those areas didn't perceive themselves
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to be beneficiaries.
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They didn't believe that they
were actually getting access
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to material benefits of increased trade
and increase mobility
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around the world.
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I work on questions predominantly
to do with refugees,
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and one of the ideas I spent
a lot of my time preaching,
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mainly to developing countries
around the world,
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is that in order to encourage
the integration of refugees,
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we can't just benefit
the refugee populations,
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we also have to address the concerns
of the host communities
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in local areas.
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But in looking at that,
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one of the policy prescriptions
is that we have to provide
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disproportionately better
education facilities, health facilities,
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access to social services,
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in those regions of high immigration,
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to address the concerns
of those local populations.
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But while we encourage that
around the developing world,
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we don't take those lessons home
and incorporate them
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in our own societies.
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Furthermore, if we're going
to really take seriously
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the need to ensure people share
in the economic benefits,
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our businesses and corporations
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need a model of globalization
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that recognizes that they too
have to take people with them.
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The fourth and final idea
I want to put forward
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is an idea that we need
more responsible politics.
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There's very little
social science evidence
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that compares attitudes on globalization,
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but from the surveys that do exist,
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what we can see is there's huge variation
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across different countries
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and time periods in those countries
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for attitudes and tolerance
of questions like
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migration and mobility on the one hand
and free trade on the other.
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But one hypothesis that I think emerges
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from a cursory look at that data
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is the idea that polarized societies
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are far less tolerant of globalization.
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It's the societies
like Sweden in the past,
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like Canada today,
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where there is a centrist politics,
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where right and left work together,
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that we encourage supportive attitudes
towards globalization.
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And what we see around the world today
is a tragic polarization,
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a failure to have dialogue
between the extremes in politics,
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and a gap in terms
of that liberal center ground
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that can encourage communication
and a shared understanding.
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We might not achieve that today,
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but at the very least we have to call
upon our politicians and our media
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to drop a language of fear
and be far more tolerant of one another.
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(Applause)
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These ideas are very tentative,
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and that's in part because this needs
to be an inclusive and shared project.
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I am still British.
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I am still European.
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I am still a global citizen.
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For those of us who believe
that our identities are not
-
mutually exclusive,
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we have to all work together
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to ensure that globalization
takes everyone with us
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and doesn't leave people behind.
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Only then will we truly reconcile
democracy and globalization.
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Thank you.
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(Applause)
Riaki Ponist
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