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(suspenseful music)
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- I think so, but what does done mean?
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(laughs)
- Yeah.
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- Text has this illusion
of comprehensiveness.
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(paper flipping)
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Even if you've read something once,
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it doesn't mean that you understand it.
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So I sort of like to play with language
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and making something
either very, very legible
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or making something very, very opaque.
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And encouraging people to do
the work of understanding it,
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it's really an invitation,
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come think with me.
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(paper rustling)
- Oh yeah.
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Of all the family members,
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I'm the most organizationally inclined.
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So I have taken, whenever I go home,
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steal a few more photos each time.
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So my dad was converted to
Islam in the early 1980s.
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He basically was learning Islam
by typewriting these notes.
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(typewriter keyboard thumping)
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He would photocopy pieces
of religious texts,
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and he would then paste
them on a sheet of paper,
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and they he would annotate them.
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He came to make sense
of things through this
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repeated reading and rereading process.
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I thought this was so lovely
because I was thinking
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about this idea of talking back to a text.
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A text itself is never finished,
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each time we read something new,
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we're either annotating on the page
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or annotating in our brain,
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and we're creating what
literally are new texts.
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This active collaboration between
the reader and the writer,
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the text is there not to
offer us a final meaning,
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but it's actually there as an invitation
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for us to actively engage with it.
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(papers rustling)
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If you look at (laughs)
my dad and I's notes,
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what he did as a study tool
is basically my art practice.
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(suspenseful music building)
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(papers rustling)
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Huh, that's literally exactly what I do
now, I read a lot and do arts. (laughs)
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Feel like our young selves
know exactly what we wanna do.
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(bright electronic music)
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There's nothing that I've done in my life
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that hasn't been focused on text.
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I'm really interested
in what words convey,
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but also how they appear on the page,
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on walls,
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and public space.
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What might it mean to see this
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every Tuesday when you walk by?
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What it means to sort
of engage with the text
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over and over and over?
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Rereading as this ritual.
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I'm really interested in
the concept of the word
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and what it carries,
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as well it's actually trying to say or do.
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(papers rustling)
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When I'm looking for texts,
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I'm usually not looking
for a particular sentence.
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I'm looking for a
particular shape of a letter
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or a shape of a word.
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So I'll flip through any
texts on my bookshelf
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looking for the perfect
A or the perfect B.
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In a lot of ways I'm trying to figure out
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the individual letter and
then start piecing letters
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and words together from there.
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(suspenseful music)
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So the one that I'm writing
now from all these pieces
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is "Should they be circling the echo mouth
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that's sloped upward?"
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Do I know what that means
at this particular moment?
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No, but there is something
interesting to me
-
about the idea of circling an echo.
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How do I take something that could be said
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very, very plainly, and
code it or use cryptography
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to make it harder to understand?
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We circle ambulate the
affiliate's solution.
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Sort of inviting people to go slow
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instead of trying to
rush to understanding.
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If you read a sentence that
immediately doesn't make sense,
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you have two options, right?
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You can ignore the sentence and move on,
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or you can spend a bit
of time unpacking it.
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(gentle music)
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It's almost a proxy for thinking
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about how we can move through other ways
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of reading the world with a
bit more care and slowness.
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Would ask that we spend a
bit more time with things
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that are confusing instead
of writing them off.
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I think a lot about what it actually means
-
to make myself legible, invisible.
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When am I being intentionally opaque
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and ensuring that not everyone can get in,
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and when am I being very open and wanting
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for more people to have access?
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How you present yourself
to the world that's legible
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and appeasing to people,
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versus I'm not gonna make
myself known until I'm ready?
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(gentle music)