Medjugorje Visionary Mirjana Interview March 10 2020

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Here, the faith was not free.

We were allowed to go
to Holy Mass on Sundays.

And, that was it.
That was what we could do.

The rest of religious life
was taking place at home.

Our parents taught us to pray.

We prayed Holy Rosary
every evening together.

But, they did not talk about
the faith, much.

Because, they were afraid.

As kids, we cannot speak about it
in school.

If so, they could have problems.

That is why I had never heard about
Lourdes, or Fatima.

I didn't know that Our Lady
could come here to earth

in such a way.

I thought she is up in Heaven,
and we pray.

When Ivanka told me
that she thought

Our Lady is up on the hill,

I was kind of rude.
I had a rude response.

I told her, "Right. She hasn't got
better things to do?"

"And she came to the two of us?"

And I left her there, and I wanted
to return to the village.

But, when I got to the first houses,

I felt this call within me.

I had to return back.
When I got there,

I saw Ivanka standing
at the very same spot.

She told me, "Look now, please."

I saw a woman
in a long, greyish gown,

who was holding a baby
in her arms.

Everything was really strange.

Because, no one went to the hill.

Especially not a person
in a long gown

with a baby in their arms.

At that very moment,
I felt all possible emotions

that we are able to feel.

Pride. Beauty. Incomprehension.

Fear.

And, what was the most
intense emotion

was the need to flee this place.

I ran back home.

When I got home,
I found my grandmother

and I told her, right away:

"Granny, I think I saw Our Lady
up on the hill."

She told me "Take the Holy Rosary.
Go to your room, and pray."

"Leave Our Lady where she is."

I didn't have the strength
to explain everything to Granny.

I just wanted to be alone, in prayer.

That was the only way I had peace.

The following day,
I was helping my uncles,

like every day before that.

But, when the time came
that I saw Our Lady the day before,

I felt this calling, again.

I told my uncle that I had to go
to the hill

because something has been
calling me.

When we got there,

nearly half the village
was there, already.

Someone came with
every visionary.

We saw Our Lady
at the very same place.

This time, she was not
carrying a baby in her arms.

On that day, 25 June 1981,

was the first day we got to hear her.

She introduced herself.

She told us, "My dear children.
Do not be afraid.

I am the Queen of Peace."

That is how our daily
apparitions started.

For a short while, we had the apparitions
at the hill.

As I said earlier,
it was a time of communism.

Shortly afterward,
police came, with dogs.

They surrounded the hill.

Everyone there, eventually
ended up in prison.

In those first days,
Our Lady showed some miracles.

Nearly everyone from the village
saw something.

For example, there were two
miraculous healings, right away.

Then, the cross on Cross Mountain
was disappearing, with

Our Lady appearing
on that spot, instead,

dressed in white.

The local people saw this.

I will give you an example
what the situation was like.

We, who had been
brought up in communism,

had learned how to be silent.

The fewer words you say,
the better for you.

So, when the cross was disappearing
at Cross Mountain,

everyone was silent.
They just looked at it.

One young man was 25 at that time.

He was unable to remain silent,
because of the emotions he felt.

He said, "Look! There is no cross!
Our Lady is there, instead!"

He was sentenced to prison
for six months.

That was the situation
at that time.

The word "Mir" was written
in the sky.

"Mir" means "Peace."

At that time, Father Jozo
was our parish priest.

When the police came to him,
to tell him to close the church,

because Holy Mass was
now forbidden,

Father Jozo said,
"I saw with my own eyes,

that the word Mir
is written on the sky.

I cannot close the church.

Do with me as you will."

He ended up in prison.

But the local people
had seen all of that.

Knowing us as children,

they trusted us,
and they helped us.

We had an apparition
every evening at a different spot.

I had daily apparitions like that,
until Christmas, 1982.

That is when Our Lady
entrusted me with the 10th Secret.

She told me I would no longer
have daily apparitions.

She told me it would be
once a year.

Every 18th of March,
as long as I live.

She also said I would have
extraordinary apparitions.

Those apparitions started
on 2nd August, 1987.

Those are ongoing
until this day.

I don't know how long
I will have them.

Those apparitions are also
a prayer for unbelievers.

Our Lady never calls them that.

Because if you say about someone,
"You're an unbeliever,"

you judged and condemned him.

Our Lady never does that.

She says "the ones that have
not yet discovered the love of God."

She is asking our help.

When she says, "our help,"

she does not mean the six of us,
the six visionaries.

She means the help of everyone
who feels she is their mother.

She says we can change unbelievers,

with our prayers, and by our example.

She asks that we put prayers for them
as a priority in our daily prayers.

Most of the ugly things which happen
in this world,

comes from them.

That is why Our Lady says,

"When you pray for them,
you pray for yourself, and your future."

In addition to prayers, she asks
for our example.

She doesn't want us to preach.

She asks us to speak with our own lives,

so unbelievers can witness in us,
God, and the love of God.

I kindly request you consider this
In the most serious way.

If you could see the tears of Our Lady
just once,

the tears she cries for unbelievers,

I am sure you would pray
with all your heart.

She says this is the time
of great decision.

She says it is up to us,
who say we are children of God,

that there is a great
responsibility upon us.

When she asks prayers
for unbelievers,

she would like us to try that
in her way.

That would be,
the way I understood it:

First, feel love for them.

Feel they are our
brothers and sisters

who were not as lucky
as we were,

to feel the love of God.

When we feel that way,
we will be able to pray for them.

Never judge, never condemn,
never criticize.

Simply love them.

Pray for them.

And, give your own example.

Our example tells a lot.

We all have unbelievers,

in our house, somewhere nearby,
at our workplace,

and that unbeliever looks at us,
and at our life.

We must ask ourselves whether
the love of God,

is what they see in us.

I will give you a nice example.

One evening, when I went
to Holy Mass in Medjugorje,

our church was crowded.

I am unable to stand up very long.

I saw a small space on one of the pews.

I sat down.

Our brothers and sisters
from Italy were there.

When I sat down,

they began to yell and complain.

You know how temperamental
our brothers and sisters

from Italy are.

They all said, "Get up!
This is our bench!"

"We got here, first!"

So many words
in just one moment.

I got up, and I was silent.

One lady approached me.

She recognized me.

She told them that I am
one of the visionaries.

They gave me the whole bench
just for myself.

[Laughter]

The reason I tell you this:

What do you think would happen

if I was an unbeliever?

And I was entering the church
for the first time?

And inside, are the ones who claim
they know the love of God?

And they behaved toward me
in such a way?

Would I ever enter the church again?

And whose responsibility
would that be?

That is something that
Our Lady tries to say.

We can all learn
to speak nicely.

But, Our Lady
wants our lives to speak, instead.

That with our example,
it can be shown

that we are trying to live
the love of God.

In these apparitions
of Medjugorje,

the most important
message of Our Lady

is the Holy Mass.

But, not solely on Sundays.

When we were children,

at the beginning of
the apparitions,

she said on one occasion,

"If you have to choose

between an apparition
or Holy Mass,

you should choose Holy Mass.

Always.

Because during Holy Mass,

my Son is present, with you."

Throughout all the years
of apparitions of Our Lady,

Our Lady never said,

"Pray and I will give."

She always says,

"Pray, so I can pray,
and ask my Son for you."

Jesus is always in the first place.

Many pilgrims,
when they come to Medjugorje,

think that we visionaries
are important.

That it is enough
to say something to us,

that God listens to us
more than to others,

but that thinking is wrong.

Because, for Our Lady
as a mother,

there are no privileged ones.

For her, we are all
her dear children.

She chose us,

to speak the messages to us.

But, she chose every single
one of you.

That is something she said
in one of the January 2nd messages.

She said, "Dear children,

I have invited you.

Open your hearts.

Let me in, so that I can

make you my apostles."

So, in the eyes of
our Holy Mother,

we have the same importance.

There are none whom she listens to
more, or less.

I learned, at the very beginning
of the apparitions,

You heard when I said
"my uncle, my grandmother."

Because I am the only one
of us six visionaries

who was not born here,
nor grew up here.

My parents are from here.

But, when they married,
they moved to Sarajevo.

So, I was born and raised there.

I always visited here,
because the rest of my family was here.

But when the apparitions began,

because the communists
wanted to stop everything,

I was returned by force
to Sarajevo.

Here, where you are now,
in this zone,

is populated by Croatians.

Croatians are Catholic.

Here, the communist police
were 'Croatian,'

and, when they took us
for interrogations,

they yelled, they swore at us,

but nothing else.

But, in Sarajevo,

the situation was
completely different.

In Sarajevo,
there were true communists.

And, mainly Muslims.

Every single day,
they came to my house.

They would destroy
everything around.

And, they would
take me with them.

I was just 15, then.

I never knew if I would ever
return home.

I thought Our Lady
would help me.

But, when I would have
an apparition,

she told me the same things
as told to the other visionaries.

Nothing regarding me,
or my situation.

I don't need to tell you
how alone and abandoned I felt.

The five of them were here, together,

in the village that loves
and supports them.

But in Sarajevo, I had only
my parents and my brother.

Everyone else was forced to
distance themselves from us.

But, through prayer,

I understood,

for God, for Our Lady,

there are no privileged ones.

If you are having a hard time,

take Rosary, and pray.

God will not leave you alone.

When I felt that in my heart,

I was able to deal with

everything that hurt me,

with far more strength.

Also, now, in Medjugorje,

many times, people say,

"I had a healing,

I got to know
the love of God."

I have never met
many of those people, in my life.

So, I was not the one
who prayed for them.

They had open hearts.

They asked for Mother's help.

She asked her Son, for them.

I am telling you this,
so you may understand

when you need
Our Lady, our Mother,

you do not need visionaries.

The only thing you need
is an open heart.

Our Lady says,

"Open your heart,
and I will be with you."

So, it is up to us,

if we want our Mother with us,
to be at our side.

Our Lady asked for
prayer in families.

She says nothing unites family
as well as praying together.

She says parents have a great
responsibility to their children.

Because, they are the ones who
should put the rules of faith

in their children.

They can, if they pray together,

and if they go to Holy Mass.