The Granny Cloud | Angèle Oberheinrich | TEDxKIT
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0:07 - 0:10Hello, I'm Granny Angèle,
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0:12 - 0:16and I'd like to tell you
about the Granny Cloud -
0:16 - 0:19and how it connects children
around the world. -
0:20 - 0:27The Granny Cloud is a group of people
who connect with children via Skype -
0:29 - 0:32mainly in remote areas.
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0:33 - 0:40The idea began with an experiment
in slums of Hyderabad in India -
0:41 - 0:46and took off in the village
of Shirgaon in Maharashtra -
0:46 - 0:49in 2009
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0:51 - 0:57in a lab that had been set up
as part of the main project in Hyderabad. -
1:00 - 1:04Most of the first Grannies
were retired women. -
1:05 - 1:09They had read an article
in the British newspaper -
1:09 - 1:12about Sugata Mitra's experiment
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1:12 - 1:16and volunteered to spend
some of their free time -
1:17 - 1:22communicating with children
in India via Skype. -
1:23 - 1:28At first, there was just
a handful of Grannies, -
1:28 - 1:34mainly women and mainly
from the UK and Europe, -
1:35 - 1:42singing songs, playing games
and telling stories with children. -
1:44 - 1:49Ten years on, we've had
more than 300 Grannies. -
1:49 - 1:53Some of them dedicated
a few months of their time, -
1:53 - 1:56and others have been in it
for the long haul. -
1:57 - 2:03The number of active Grannies
at any given time is about 70: -
2:04 - 2:08not all in England and not all female.
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2:10 - 2:15We've also reached out to children
in different countries -
2:15 - 2:19including Colombia, Cambodia and Mexico
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2:20 - 2:22though most are in India.
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2:23 - 2:28At the moment, we have independent,
self-funded Granny Cloud centers -
2:28 - 2:34in India as well as
in Jamaica and Greenland. -
2:36 - 2:38"Granny."
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2:39 - 2:40Why "granny?"
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2:40 - 2:42(Laughter)
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2:43 - 2:47Well, "granny" is
a gender-and age-free term. -
2:48 - 2:50(Laughter)
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2:50 - 2:53Grannies are women and men
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2:53 - 2:57aged from 24 to 78 years of age.
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2:57 - 2:59(Laughter)
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3:00 - 3:04The initiative, which began in 2009,
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3:04 - 3:10was originally called
Self-organized Mediation Environments. -
3:11 - 3:13It's a bit of mouthful.
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3:14 - 3:18"The grandmother approach"
was how it was described -
3:18 - 3:24to emphasize the warm,
encouraging nature of the interaction. -
3:25 - 3:29The media, as they do,
picked up on the word "grandmother," -
3:30 - 3:35and as it was a relationship
via the Internet, -
3:35 - 3:41the term "Granny Cloud"
developed and stuck. -
3:43 - 3:46The Grannies are all volunteers
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3:46 - 3:50and come from many
different countries in the world, -
3:50 - 3:55and English is not necessarily
their native language. -
3:57 - 3:59Some people think
that we're all just old and bored -
3:59 - 4:01and have nothing better to do
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4:01 - 4:04than fiddle around trying to learn
how to use the Internet. -
4:04 - 4:06(Laughter)
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4:06 - 4:08Well, we're not.
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4:08 - 4:09(Laughter)
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4:10 - 4:14What do you think 70-year-olds
do at 6 AM on a Monday morning? -
4:16 - 4:17Anybody? No.
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4:17 - 4:20I for one am still asleep,
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4:20 - 4:26but I know one 70-year-old
who gets up, dresses quickly, -
4:26 - 4:30puts on a bit of mascara,
grabs a cup of coffee -
4:30 - 4:35and by 6:30, is doing
"Head, Shoulders, Knees and Toes" -
4:35 - 4:39with a bunch of three-year-olds
in a nursery school in India. -
4:40 - 4:43Well, rather her than me.
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4:44 - 4:49I have tried it, but 6 AM
is not my favorite time of day. -
4:49 - 4:54And besides, I'd probably poke my eye out
with the mascara brush -
4:54 - 4:56even at the best of times.
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4:59 - 5:03Though it was the case
at the start of the Granny Cloud, -
5:03 - 5:06learning English
is not necessarily the main aim. -
5:07 - 5:10The children see
what possibilities there are -
5:10 - 5:14outside their own communities,
outside their own culture. -
5:14 - 5:16They don't only connect with the Grannies
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5:16 - 5:18but also with children
from other cultures: -
5:20 - 5:22my granddaughter, for instance.
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5:23 - 5:25I have a lovely granddaughter,
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5:25 - 5:31and when she was about five or six,
she joined in a Granny session with me. -
5:31 - 5:36She spoke to children living
in the Sundarbans in the Bay of Bengal. -
5:37 - 5:39And Alesia had been swimming.
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5:39 - 5:43The Bengali children wanted to know
where she'd been swimming. -
5:43 - 5:45"Well, where do you go swimming?"
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5:45 - 5:47"In a swimming pool, of course."
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5:48 - 5:53But the Bengali children
swim in fish ponds along with the fish, -
5:53 - 5:56and I don't think Alesia believed that.
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5:57 - 5:59These children are having fun
beside a fish pond. -
5:59 - 6:05They're not in it, but I think
they might fall in it quite soon, okay. -
6:05 - 6:10And I've Grannies
connect with Grannies as well. -
6:10 - 6:12We know each other over Skype,
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6:13 - 6:17and we have Skype meetings
which we call "Granny tea parties." -
6:17 - 6:19(Laughter)
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6:20 - 6:24And we get together
and talk about new ideas -
6:24 - 6:29and try to sort out
any problems there might be. -
6:30 - 6:34And, of course, the children talk to us
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6:34 - 6:39and tell us about where they live,
their way of life. -
6:39 - 6:45And quite often, you'll see Indian
children dressed in really thick clothes -
6:45 - 6:49at temperatures when Europeans
would be basking in the sun. -
6:50 - 6:55And there was one Granny
talking to children in Greenland -
6:55 - 6:58who was told, "Oh,
it's not particularly cold today. -
6:58 - 6:59It's quite mild.
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6:59 - 7:03It's only minus five degrees centigrade."
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7:05 - 7:06Yeah.
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7:07 - 7:11The children also gain confidence.
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7:11 - 7:14When I first started speaking
to children on Skype, -
7:14 - 7:19I heard a lot of,
"Yes, ma'am," "No, ma'am." -
7:19 - 7:23They were really rather shy
and didn't know what to say, -
7:25 - 7:29and they didn't have
a lot of English either, -
7:30 - 7:33but now that they've got to know me,
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7:33 - 7:37they'll tell me
that I'm a very cruel Granny -
7:37 - 7:40eating all the ice cream myself.
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7:40 - 7:41(Laughter)
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7:41 - 7:45Well, it is difficult
to send ice cream via the Internet. -
7:46 - 7:49So, personal touch is very important.
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7:50 - 7:53When the first centers were set up,
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7:53 - 7:57the children saw the Grannies
on huge screens, like cinema screens. -
7:58 - 8:00It didn't work very well.
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8:00 - 8:05And later on, the smaller
screens were introduced -
8:05 - 8:08showing the Grannies
more or less life-size, -
8:08 - 8:12giving the impression that they
were in the same room as the children. -
8:12 - 8:14And there were stories
of children reaching out -
8:14 - 8:16wanting to touch Granny's face.
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8:16 - 8:20Her skin looks so soft
they want to know what it feels like. -
8:20 - 8:25And they get as close
to the computer as possible -
8:25 - 8:27so they can be close to Granny.
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8:27 - 8:28It's really rather lovely.
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8:29 - 8:31So, what do we do?
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8:31 - 8:34Well, we do all sorts of things:
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8:35 - 8:38sing songs, play games.
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8:40 - 8:42What else?
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8:42 - 8:45We might ask the children a question
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8:45 - 8:48that they can search
for an answer in the Internet. -
8:49 - 8:52And yes, all sorts of things we do.
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8:53 - 8:57And ... oh yes, this one.
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8:57 - 9:01This is Liz, the Jelly Granny.
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9:01 - 9:03(Laughter)
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9:03 - 9:06I don't think Liz likes
being called the Jelly Granny, -
9:06 - 9:08but I'm afraid she's stuck with it.
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9:09 - 9:12She was teaching the children
a song about jelly. -
9:12 - 9:17You know this one, "Wibble wobble,
wibble wobble jelly on the plate"? -
9:17 - 9:22Well, the jelly almost wibble-wobbled
off the plate onto her computer. -
9:22 - 9:24(Laughter)
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9:26 - 9:29That would have been the end
of the session and her computer too. -
9:29 - 9:31But she did save it. She did save it.
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9:31 - 9:36And this picture, by the way,
is a still from a documentary film, -
9:36 - 9:38which is quite good.
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9:38 - 9:43And if you're interested in seeing it,
it can be viewed on Vimeo. -
9:45 - 9:48Yeah, and sometimes,
the children lead the sessions. -
9:48 - 9:53They might start off by telling us about
something that's happening in the school, -
9:53 - 9:55a project they have,
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9:55 - 9:59or they'll tell us about a festival
that they've been celebrating. -
10:00 - 10:01That's rather nice.
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10:01 - 10:03Sounds lovely, doesn't it?
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10:03 - 10:08It is rather, but it doesn't always work.
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10:08 - 10:12There are so many things
that can go wrong. -
10:13 - 10:16To start with, we haven't got
a common language. -
10:16 - 10:22And the technology,
well, it has improved over the years, -
10:22 - 10:25but it's still not perfect.
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10:25 - 10:26And then the weather.
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10:26 - 10:29The weather can cause
all sorts of problems. -
10:30 - 10:34During the monsoon, heavy rain
can interfere with the Internet, -
10:34 - 10:36so we don't have a connection.
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10:36 - 10:41Or the children don't go to the centers
because it's pouring with rain. -
10:41 - 10:45And then in the winter months
when it gets dark early, -
10:45 - 10:47they have to leave the centers early
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10:47 - 10:49so that they're home
before darkness falls. -
10:49 - 10:53Otherwise, they won't see
what dangers there are on the way home. -
10:53 - 10:55This is particularly a problem
in the Sundarbans, -
10:55 - 11:00where they've got snakes -
nasty ones, yes. -
11:01 - 11:02Okay.
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11:03 - 11:08So, you're all prepared
for a super-duper session. -
11:08 - 11:14You've got puppets and books and games,
and you might get to sing a song or two. -
11:14 - 11:16It's going to be wonderful,
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11:17 - 11:18but it isn't.
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11:19 - 11:20It doesn't happen.
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11:21 - 11:22Failure.
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11:22 - 11:26A failed session and depressed Granny.
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11:27 - 11:28But we don't give up.
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11:28 - 11:33We try again, and next time,
it all works out: -
11:33 - 11:38perhaps not quite as planned
but beautifully all the same. -
11:39 - 11:45And we all work under the guidance of
our lovely Granny Cloud director, Suneeta. -
11:45 - 11:48There she is, wearing
one of her gorgeous saris. -
11:48 - 11:53A very hard-working woman,
a volunteer as well as the rest of us. -
11:54 - 11:57At the centers,
we communicate with vary: -
11:58 - 12:03from a computer lab in a school -
it's quite well-equipped, -
12:03 - 12:08and Granny sessions are integrated
in the school curriculum - -
12:09 - 12:12to a small room in an urban slum
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12:12 - 12:16which doubles as
a paper recycling business. -
12:17 - 12:23The Granny sessions are co-ordinated
by a member of an NGO, using a laptop. -
12:25 - 12:29This is the entrance
to the paper recycling room. -
12:30 - 12:34The owner's family of four
lives above in another room. -
12:35 - 12:37Not luxurious at all.
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12:38 - 12:43And this is what it looks like
inside the paper recycling room. -
12:43 - 12:47There's a bit more space
than you can see there but not a lot. -
12:47 - 12:49But the children have fun there.
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12:50 - 12:53The children from the early
days have moved on, -
12:53 - 12:56and we have one or two success stories.
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12:56 - 13:01A boy from the Hyderabad project
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13:01 - 13:06has studied medicine
and is now a qualified doctor. -
13:07 - 13:11And a girl from the Shirgaon center
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13:11 - 13:13has a bachelor's degree
in computer sciences -
13:13 - 13:19and is working at the Indian Institute
of Technology as a junior research fellow. -
13:21 - 13:22(Sighs)
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13:23 - 13:25(Laughter)
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13:25 - 13:30And there are many groups around the world
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13:30 - 13:34that would love to have Granny sessions,
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13:34 - 13:38but as I say, we only have
about 70 active Grannies. -
13:38 - 13:40So, we haven't got the time
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13:40 - 13:44to share with all the children
we would like to reach, -
13:44 - 13:49but we do reach out and help those
that want to set up centers of their own. -
13:50 - 13:56There is a Spanish-speaking
Granny Cloud center in Bogota, -
13:56 - 13:59which we helped to set up.
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13:59 - 14:06And we are now in the process
of helping to set up a center -
14:06 - 14:07in Fort Severn.
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14:07 - 14:13It's a First Nation settlement
in Ontario in Canada. -
14:13 - 14:20Very remote, very cold I think
way up there in the north, -
14:20 - 14:25but there's a school with children,
and they'd like to have Granny sessions, -
14:25 - 14:28so we're helping to get them on their way.
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14:29 - 14:33And I think it's a wonderful idea.
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14:33 - 14:34Wasn't my idea,
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14:34 - 14:38but I'm really happy to be part of it,
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14:38 - 14:41and I hope it continues
to spread around the world. -
14:42 - 14:44And thank you for listening to me.
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14:44 - 14:46(Applause)
- Title:
- The Granny Cloud | Angèle Oberheinrich | TEDxKIT
- Description:
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Angèle Oberheinrich introduces the Granny Cloud, a team of volunteers all over the world that reaches out to children with limited educational resources around the globe in a variety of settings and provides them with the opportunity to experience worlds far removed from their own. Members of the Granny Cloud interact with groups of children, engaging them in conversation and in activities of various kinds, such as reading and telling stories, craft activities, solving puzzles and exploring big questions. The role of the Granny includes provoking curiosity, asking questions, listening attentively and providing warm encouragement. You don't have to be a grandmother to become part of the team - volunteers are between 24 and 78 years old and male as well as female.
For many years, Angèle Oberheinrich has been volunteering for the Granny Cloud. With lots of enthusiasm and untiring dedication, she applies her energies to supporting children all over the world.
This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at:
https://www.ted.com/tedx - Video Language:
- English
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- Duration:
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