Why sneakers are a great investment
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0:01 - 0:06This is the Air Jordan 3 Black Cement.
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0:07 - 0:10This might be the most
important sneaker in history. -
0:11 - 0:13First released in 1988,
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0:13 - 0:16this is the shoe that started
Nike marketing as we know it. -
0:17 - 0:21This is the shoe that propelled
the entire Air Jordan lineage, -
0:21 - 0:23and perhaps saved Nike.
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0:23 - 0:26The Air Jordan 3 Black Cement
did for sneakers -
0:26 - 0:28what the iPhone did for phones.
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0:28 - 0:30It's been re-released four times.
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0:31 - 0:33Every celebrity's been seen wearing it.
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0:33 - 0:35There's a site about what to wear
with the Black Cement. -
0:35 - 0:38It's been right under
your nose for decades -
0:38 - 0:40and you never looked down.
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0:41 - 0:42And right about now,
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0:42 - 0:46most of you are probably
thinking, "Sneakers?" -
0:46 - 0:48(Laughter)
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0:48 - 0:49Yes.
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0:49 - 0:51Yes, sneakers.
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0:52 - 0:55Some extraordinary things about sneakers
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0:55 - 0:57and data
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0:57 - 0:58and Nike
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0:59 - 1:03and how they're all related, possibly,
to the future of all online commerce. -
1:03 - 1:04In 2011,
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1:04 - 1:07the last time the Jordan 3
Black Cement was released, -
1:07 - 1:10at a retail of 160 dollars,
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1:10 - 1:12it sold out globally in minutes.
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1:12 - 1:15And that's because people were camped
outside of sneaker stores -
1:15 - 1:17for days before it went on sale.
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1:17 - 1:19And just minutes after that,
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1:19 - 1:22thousands of those pairs were on eBay
for two and three times retail. -
1:23 - 1:27In fact, there's over 1,000 pairs on eBay
right now, four years later. -
1:28 - 1:30But here's the thing:
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1:30 - 1:33this happens every single Saturday.
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1:34 - 1:36Every week there's another
release or two or three, -
1:36 - 1:38and every shoe has a story
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1:38 - 1:41as rich and compelling
as the Jordan 3 Black Cement. -
1:42 - 1:46This is Nike building
the marketplace for sneakerheads -- -
1:46 - 1:50people who collect sneakers --
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1:50 - 1:51and my daughter.
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1:51 - 1:53(Laughter)
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1:53 - 1:55That's an "I love Dad" T-shirt.
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1:56 - 1:59For the brands, sneakerheads
are a very important demographic. -
1:59 - 2:03These are the tastemakers;
these are the Apple fanboys. -
2:03 - 2:05Because who else is going to buy
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2:05 - 2:08a pair of $8,000
Back to the Future sneakers? -
2:09 - 2:10(Laughter)
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2:10 - 2:13Yeah, 8,000 dollars.
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2:13 - 2:16And while that's obviously the anomaly,
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2:16 - 2:19the resell sneaker market
is definitely not. -
2:19 - 2:21Thirty years in the making,
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2:21 - 2:23what started as an underground culture
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2:23 - 2:26of a few people who like sneakers
just a bit too much -- -
2:26 - 2:27(Laughter)
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2:29 - 2:31Now we have sneaker addictions.
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2:31 - 2:33In a market where in the past 12 months,
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2:33 - 2:35there have been over
nine million pairs of shoes -
2:35 - 2:37resold in the United States alone,
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2:37 - 2:42at a value of 1.2 billion dollars.
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2:42 - 2:44And that's a conservative estimate --
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2:44 - 2:47I should know, I am a sneakerhead.
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2:47 - 2:48This is my collection.
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2:49 - 2:53In the pantheon of great collections,
mine doesn't even register. -
2:53 - 2:56I have about 250 pairs,
but trust me, I am small-time. -
2:56 - 2:58People have thousands.
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2:59 - 3:01I'm a very typical
37-year-old sneakerhead. -
3:02 - 3:05I grew up playing basketball
when Michael Jordan played, -
3:05 - 3:06I always wanted Air Jordans,
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3:06 - 3:08my mother would never buy me Air Jordans,
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3:08 - 3:11as soon as I got some money
I bought Air Jordans -- -
3:11 - 3:13literally, we all have
the exact same story. -
3:13 - 3:14But here's where mine diverged.
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3:15 - 3:19After starting three companies,
I took a job as a strategy consultant, -
3:19 - 3:23when I very quickly realized that
I didn't know the first thing about data. -
3:24 - 3:27But I learned, because I had to,
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3:27 - 3:28and I liked it.
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3:28 - 3:31So I thought, I wonder if I could
get ahold of some sneaker data, -
3:32 - 3:34just to play with for my own amusement.
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3:34 - 3:36The goal was to develop a price guide,
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3:36 - 3:38a real data-driven view of the market.
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3:38 - 3:43And four years later, we're analyzing
over 25 million transactions, -
3:43 - 3:46providing real-time analytics
on thousands of sneakers. -
3:46 - 3:50Now sneakerheads check prices
while camping out for releases. -
3:51 - 3:54Others have used the data
to validate insurance claims. -
3:55 - 3:57And the top investment banks in the world
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3:57 - 4:01now use resell data to analyze
the retail footwear industry. -
4:01 - 4:03And here's the best part:
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4:03 - 4:07sneakerheads have sneaker portfolios.
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4:07 - 4:08(Laughter)
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4:09 - 4:12Sneakerheads can track the value
of their collection over time, -
4:12 - 4:13compare it to others,
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4:13 - 4:15and have access to the same
analytics you might -
4:15 - 4:17for your online brokerage account.
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4:17 - 4:22So sneakerhead Dan builds his collection
and identifies which 352 are his. -
4:22 - 4:25He can see it's worth 103,000 dollars --
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4:25 - 4:27frankly, a modest collection.
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4:27 - 4:30At the asset level,
he can see gain-loss by shoe. -
4:30 - 4:33Here he's made over
600 dollars on one pair. -
4:34 - 4:36I have one of those.
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4:36 - 4:37(Laughter)
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4:39 - 4:42So an unregulated
1.2 billion dollar industry -
4:42 - 4:45that thrives as much on the street
as it does online, -
4:45 - 4:48and has spawned fundamental
financial services for sneakers? -
4:49 - 4:52At some point I asked myself
what's really going on in the market, -
4:52 - 4:55and two comparisons started to emerge.
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4:55 - 4:58Are sneakers more like stocks or drugs?
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4:58 - 5:00(Laughter)
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5:00 - 5:01In fact, one guy emailed to say
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5:02 - 5:06he thought his 15-year-old son
was selling drugs -
5:06 - 5:08and later found out
he was selling sneakers. -
5:09 - 5:10(Laughter)
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5:11 - 5:13And now they use the data
to do it together. -
5:14 - 5:16And that's because sneakers
are an investment opportunity -
5:16 - 5:18where none other exists.
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5:18 - 5:21And I don't just mean the kid
selling sneakers instead of drugs. -
5:21 - 5:22How about all kids?
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5:22 - 5:25You have to be 18
to play the stock market. -
5:26 - 5:28I sold chewing gum in sixth grade,
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5:28 - 5:30Blow Pops in ninth grade
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5:30 - 5:32and collected baseball cards
through high school. -
5:32 - 5:34The cards are long dead,
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5:34 - 5:37and the candy market's
usually quite local. -
5:37 - 5:43For a lot of people, sneakers are a legal
and accessible investment opportunity -- -
5:43 - 5:47a democratized stock market,
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5:47 - 5:49but also unregulated.
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5:49 - 5:52Which is why the story
you're probably most familiar with -
5:52 - 5:54is people killing each other for sneakers.
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5:55 - 5:58And while that definitely
happens and is tragic, -
5:58 - 6:02it's not nearly the epidemic
some media would have you believe. -
6:02 - 6:06In fact, it's a very small piece
of a much bigger and better story. -
6:06 - 6:08So sneakers have clear similarities
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6:08 - 6:11to both the stock exchange
and the illegal drug trade, -
6:11 - 6:16but perhaps the most fundamental
is the existence of a central actor. -
6:16 - 6:18Someone is making the rules.
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6:19 - 6:23In the case of sneakers,
that someone is Nike. -
6:24 - 6:26Let me walk you through some numbers.
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6:26 - 6:29The resell market,
we know, is $1.2 billion. -
6:29 - 6:32Nike, including Jordan brand,
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6:32 - 6:36accounts for 96 percent of all shoes
sold on the secondary market. -
6:36 - 6:38Just complete domination.
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6:38 - 6:41Sneakerheads love Jordans.
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6:41 - 6:44And profit on the secondary market
is about a third. -
6:44 - 6:49That means that sneakerheads
made 380 million dollars -
6:49 - 6:51selling Nikes last year.
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6:51 - 6:53Let's jump to retail for a second.
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6:53 - 6:54Skechers, earlier this year,
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6:55 - 6:57became the number two
footwear brand in the country, -
6:57 - 7:00surpassing Adidas --
this was a big deal. -
7:00 - 7:03And in the 12 months ending in June,
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7:03 - 7:07Skechers's net income
was 209 million dollars. -
7:08 - 7:11That means that Nike's customers
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7:11 - 7:15make almost twice as much profit
as their closest competitor. -
7:16 - 7:18That --
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7:18 - 7:21(Laughter)
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7:21 - 7:23How is that even possible?
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7:24 - 7:27The sneaker market
is just supply and demand, -
7:27 - 7:32but Nike's gotten very good at using
supply -- limited sneakers -- -
7:32 - 7:35and the distribution of those sneakers
to their own benefit. -
7:35 - 7:37So it's really just supply.
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7:37 - 7:41Sneakerheads joke that as long
as it's limited and Nike, they'll buy it. -
7:41 - 7:45Shoes that sell for 8,000 dollars
do so because they're very rare. -
7:45 - 7:48It's no different than any other
collectible market, -
7:48 - 7:51only this isn't a market at all.
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7:52 - 7:54It's a false construct created by Nike --
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7:54 - 7:58ingeniously created by Nike, in the most
positive sense -- to sell more shoes. -
7:59 - 8:00And in the process,
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8:00 - 8:03it provided tens of thousands of people
with life-long passions, -
8:03 - 8:05myself included.
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8:05 - 8:09If Nike wanted to kill the resell market,
they could do so tomorrow, -
8:09 - 8:11all they have to do is release more shoes.
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8:11 - 8:14But we certainly don't want them to,
nor is it in their best interest. -
8:15 - 8:20That's because unlike Apple, who will sell
an iPhone to anyone who wants one, -
8:20 - 8:23Nike doesn't make their money
by just selling $200 sneakers. -
8:23 - 8:27They sell millions of shoes to millions
of people for 60 dollars. -
8:27 - 8:30And sneakerheads are the ones
who drive the marketing -
8:30 - 8:32and the hype and the PR
and the brand cachet, -
8:32 - 8:36and enable Nike to sell millions
of $60 sneakers. -
8:38 - 8:39It's marketing.
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8:39 - 8:42It's marketing the likes of which
has never been seen before -- -
8:42 - 8:43this isn't in any textbook.
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8:43 - 8:47For 15 years Nike has propped up
an artificial commodities market, -
8:47 - 8:52with a Facebook-level hyped IPO
every single weekend. -
8:52 - 8:54Drive by any Footlocker at 8am
on a Saturday morning, -
8:54 - 8:57and there will be a line down the street
and around the block, -
8:57 - 9:00and sometimes those kids
have been waiting there all week. -
9:00 - 9:04You know those crazy iPhone lines
you see on the news every other year? -
9:04 - 9:09Nike lines happen 104 times more often.
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9:09 - 9:11So Nike sets the rules.
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9:11 - 9:13And they do so by controlling
supply and distribution. -
9:14 - 9:18But once a pair leaves
the retail channel, it's the Wild West. -
9:18 - 9:24There are very few -- if any --
legal, unregulated markets of this size. -
9:24 - 9:28So Nike is definitely
not the stock exchange. -
9:28 - 9:31In fact, there is no central exchange.
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9:31 - 9:35By last count, there were 48 different
online markets that I know of. -
9:37 - 9:39Some are eBay clones,
some are mobile markets, -
9:40 - 9:43and then you have consignment shops
and brick-and-mortar stores, -
9:43 - 9:45and sneaker conventions,
and reseller sites, -
9:45 - 9:47and Facebook and Instagram and Twitter --
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9:47 - 9:51literally, anywhere sneakerheads
come into contact with each other, -
9:51 - 9:53shoes will be bought and sold.
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9:54 - 9:59But that means no efficiencies,
no transparency, -
9:59 - 10:01sometimes not even authenticity.
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10:02 - 10:04Can you imagine if that's
how stocks were bought? -
10:05 - 10:07What if the way to buy
a share of Apple stock -
10:07 - 10:10was to search over 100 places
online and off, -
10:10 - 10:13including every time
you walk down the street -
10:13 - 10:15just hoping to pass someone
wearing some Apple stock? -
10:15 - 10:17Never knowing who had the best price,
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10:17 - 10:20or even if the stock
you were looking at was real. -
10:20 - 10:22That would surely make you say:
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10:22 - 10:24[WTF?]
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10:24 - 10:26Of course that's not how we buy stock.
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10:27 - 10:30But what if that's not how
we need to buy sneakers either? -
10:31 - 10:32What if the inverse is true,
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10:32 - 10:34and what if we could buy sneakers
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10:34 - 10:36exactly the same way as we buy stock?
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10:36 - 10:39And what if it wasn't just sneakers,
but any similar product, -
10:39 - 10:41like watches and handbags
and women's shoes, -
10:41 - 10:44and any collectible, any seasonal item
and any markdown item? -
10:44 - 10:47What if there was
a stock market for commerce? -
10:48 - 10:51A stock market of things.
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10:52 - 10:56And not only could you buy in a much more
educated and efficient manner, -
10:57 - 11:00but you could engage in all
the sophisticated financial transactions -
11:00 - 11:01you can with the stock market.
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11:01 - 11:03Shorts and options and futures
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11:03 - 11:06and well, maybe you see
where this is going. -
11:06 - 11:10Maybe you want to invest
in a stock market of things. -
11:11 - 11:17Because if you had invested in a pair
of Air Jordan 3 Black Cement in 2011, -
11:17 - 11:20you could either be wearing them onstage,
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11:20 - 11:22(Laughter)
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11:22 - 11:25or have earned 162 percent
on your money -- -
11:26 - 11:29double the S&P and 20 percent
more than Apple. -
11:29 - 11:31(Laughter)
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11:31 - 11:34And that's why
we're talking about sneakers. -
11:34 - 11:35Thank you.
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11:35 - 11:38(Applause)
- Title:
- Why sneakers are a great investment
- Speaker:
- Josh Luber
- Description:
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Josh Luber is a "sneakerhead," a collector of rare or limited sneakers. With their insatiable appetite for exclusive sneakers, these tastemakers drive marketing and create hype for the brands they love, specifically Nike, which absolutely dominates the multi-billion dollar secondary market for sneakers. Luber’s company, Campless, collects data about this market and analyzes it for collectors and investors. In this talk, he takes us on a journey into this complicated, unregulated market and imagines how it could be a model for a stock market for commerce.
- Video Language:
- English
- Team:
- closed TED
- Project:
- TEDTalks
- Duration:
- 11:51
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