Stop stealing dreams - Seth Godin at TEDxYouth@BFS
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0:14 - 0:16Good morning, boys and girls.
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0:16 - 0:18Audience: (Murmur)
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0:18 - 0:20That was terrible.
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0:20 - 0:22You've learned how to do that
from a young age. -
0:22 - 0:25You're supposed to say,
"Good morning, Mr. Godin." -
0:25 - 0:26So let's try again.
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0:26 - 0:29Good morning, boys and girls.
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0:29 - 0:33Audience: Good morning, Mr. Godin.
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0:33 - 0:35Have you thought about
what that's for? -
0:35 - 0:37Have you thought about how,
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0:37 - 0:40for a hundred or
hundred and fifty years, -
0:40 - 0:45that was ingrained into
the process of public education? -
0:45 - 0:47And have you thought at all
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0:47 - 0:48as people on the cutting edge,
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0:48 - 0:53as people who are interested
in making school work again, -
0:53 - 0:56about a very simple question:
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0:56 - 1:00What is school for?
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1:00 - 1:02I don't think
we're answering that question. -
1:02 - 1:05I don't even think
we're asking that question. -
1:05 - 1:09Everyone seems to think
they know what school is for, -
1:09 - 1:13but we're not gonna make anything happen
until we can all agree -
1:13 - 1:14about how we got here
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1:14 - 1:16and where we are going.
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1:16 - 1:20My goal today is to put
that question into your head -
1:20 - 1:21and help you think about it.
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1:21 - 1:25First we have to understand
what school used to be for. -
1:25 - 1:29There was a woman named
Mary Everest Boole -
1:29 - 1:32and she came up with this notion --
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1:32 - 1:34she was a mathematician
in the late 1800s -- -
1:34 - 1:36that you can use string
and nails and wood -
1:36 - 1:39and make decorations, those things
with the string goes back and forth, -
1:39 - 1:42and there is math
built into that, -
1:42 - 1:44and that a teacher
on the cutting edge, -
1:44 - 1:47of fifth graders, might decide
to use that idea -
1:47 - 1:50modulo nine and remainders
and string going back and forth -
1:50 - 1:52to teach an important lesson
about math. -
1:52 - 1:57So that memo went home to all the parents
at my kids public school and said, -
1:57 - 2:00"We need help with this.
We need hammers." -
2:00 - 2:01So I am sort of unemployed.
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2:01 - 2:05I showed up at school that day
with a bag of hammers, -
2:05 - 2:06a big bag of 18 hammers.
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2:06 - 2:09Now, I don't know
if you've ever heard -
2:09 - 2:1418 kids hitting nails with 18 hammers
in a little room for 20 minutes, -
2:14 - 2:15but I have.
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2:15 - 2:18I’m not gonna do it for you
because it's really hard to listen to. -
2:18 - 2:22And what the teacher
explained to the kids is -
2:22 - 2:25they must arrange the brads
in this certain pattern, -
2:25 - 2:26hammering, hammering, hammering
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2:26 - 2:28and make sure they're in there
nice and firm. -
2:28 - 2:30And so these kids are hammering,
hammering, hammering, -
2:30 - 2:3120 minutes of zero education.
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2:31 - 2:33Just 20 minutes of hammering.
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2:33 - 2:36And then the teacher walks over
and she says to a boy, -
2:36 - 2:42"I told you to make sure
the brads were all the way in." -
2:42 - 2:46And one by one she pulled them out
and threw them on the floor -
2:46 - 2:48every single one.
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2:48 - 2:49And put the board down
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2:49 - 2:54and that is what she believed
school was for. -
2:54 - 2:59School was about
teaching obedience. -
2:59 - 3:01"Good morning, boys and girls"
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3:01 - 3:06starts the day
with respect and obedience. -
3:06 - 3:08Now I have to move on
to Frederick J. Kelly. -
3:08 - 3:10Some of you brought your own
number 2 pencil for the quiz -
3:10 - 3:12that is going to be part of today.
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3:12 - 3:17The number 2 pencil is famous
because Frederick J. Kelly made it famous. -
3:17 - 3:21Back around World War I
we had a problem, -
3:21 - 3:24which was that there was
this huge influx of students -
3:24 - 3:27'cause we'd expanded the school date
to include high school -
3:27 - 3:30and there was this huge need
to sort them all out. -
3:30 - 3:33So he invented the standardized test
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3:33 - 3:35and an abomination.
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3:35 - 3:37And he gave it up ten years later
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3:37 - 3:39when the emergency was over
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3:39 - 3:40but because he gave it up
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3:40 - 3:41because he called it out,
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3:41 - 3:45because he said the standardized test is
too crude to be used, -
3:45 - 3:48he was ostracized and lost his job
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3:48 - 3:50as the president of a university
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3:50 - 3:57because he dared to speak up
against a system that was working. -
3:57 - 3:58So let's try a little experiment here.
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3:58 - 4:00I'd like everyone to go ahead
and raise your right hand -
4:00 - 4:02just as high as possibly you can.
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4:02 - 4:04Now please raise it a little higher.
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4:04 - 4:06Hmm. What's that about?!
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4:06 - 4:09(Laughter)
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4:09 - 4:12My instructions were pretty clear and yet
you all held back. How come? -
4:12 - 4:13You held back because
you've been taught -
4:13 - 4:16since you were 3 years old
to hold a little bit back -
4:16 - 4:19because if you do everything,
if you put all out -
4:19 - 4:21than your parents or your teacher
or your coach or your boss -
4:21 - 4:25is gonna ask for little bit more,
aren't they? (Laughter) -
4:25 - 4:30And the reason they will is because
we are products of the industrial age. -
4:30 - 4:32The industrial age made us all rich.
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4:32 - 4:35The industrial age brought
productivity to the table. -
4:35 - 4:40Productivity allowes human beings
working together with a boss or a manager -
4:40 - 4:42to make more than
they could ever make alone. -
4:42 - 4:48Productivity makes us a car for 700 dollars
instead of 700 000 dollars in 1920. -
4:48 - 4:53But the thing about productivity
and industrialism is this. -
4:53 - 4:57The people who ran factories had
two huge problems. -
4:57 - 4:59Problem number one:
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4:59 - 5:01they looked around and said,
"We don't have enough workers. -
5:01 - 5:04We don't have enough people
who are willing to move off the farm -
5:04 - 5:08and come to this dark building
for 12 hours a day, 6 days a week -
5:08 - 5:10and do what they are told.
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5:10 - 5:12If we can get more workers,
we could pay them less. -
5:12 - 5:15And if we can pay them less,
we'd make more money. -
5:15 - 5:18We need more workers."
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5:18 - 5:25And so, the KKK went to
industrialists and said, -
5:25 - 5:27"You need to get those kids
out of the factories, -
5:27 - 5:28those people you're paying
3 dollars a day, -
5:28 - 5:31'cause they're taking our jobs."
And so a deal was made. -
5:31 - 5:34And the deal was
universal public education -
5:34 - 5:39whose sole intent was
not to train the scholars of tomorrow. -
5:39 - 5:40We have plenty of scholars.
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5:40 - 5:45It was to train people
to be willing to work in the factory. -
5:45 - 5:50It was to train people
to behave, to comply, to fit in. -
5:50 - 5:52We process you for a whole year.
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5:52 - 5:56If you are defective, we hold you back
and process you again. -
5:56 - 6:01We sit you in straight rows just like
they organize things in the factory. -
6:01 - 6:03We build a system,
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6:03 - 6:07all about interchangeable people
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6:07 - 6:10because factories are based
on interchangeable parts. -
6:10 - 6:13If this piece is no good,
put another piece in there. -
6:13 - 6:17And org charts, those little boxes are
all designed to say, -
6:17 - 6:21"Oh, we can fit Bob in there
'cause Rachel didn't show to work today." -
6:21 - 6:22And so we built school.
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6:22 - 6:25That's what school was for.
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6:25 - 6:29And the second thing industrialists
were really worried about was -
6:29 - 6:31that we weren't going to buy
all the stuff they could make, -
6:31 - 6:35that in 1880, 1890, people owned
two pairs of shoes, -
6:35 - 6:37one pair of jeans.
That was it. -
6:37 - 6:42You don't know anyone who owns
one pair of jeans anymore, ever. -
6:42 - 6:45What they needed to train us
to do was buy stuff. -
6:45 - 6:47They needed to train us to fit in.
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6:47 - 6:51They needed to train us
to become consumers. -
6:51 - 6:53And so, Horace Mann,
who meant well, -
6:53 - 6:55built the public school
as we know it. -
6:55 - 6:57And then, he needed
more teachers, right? -
6:57 - 6:59Because you have more schools
so he built a school for teachers. -
6:59 - 7:02Do you know what it's called?
The normal school. -
7:02 - 7:04He called it the normal school
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7:04 - 7:07where they train people
to teach in the common school -
7:07 - 7:09because he wanted you
to be normal, -
7:09 - 7:11and wanted the class
to be normal, -
7:11 - 7:12and he wanted people to fit in.
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7:12 - 7:17And then we came up with this:
the textbook. -
7:17 - 7:20Now if you want to teach somebody,
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7:20 - 7:22how to become passionate about,
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7:22 - 7:23I don't know, American history,
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7:23 - 7:24why would you give them this?
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7:24 - 7:27(Laughter)
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7:27 - 7:29Do people walk into Barnes & Noble and say,
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7:29 - 7:32"I'm really interested in
that latest gripping thing -
7:32 - 7:34that's going to get me all engaged
about the Civil War. -
7:34 - 7:37Do you have one of those
textbooks in stock?" -
7:37 - 7:42If you wanted to teach someone
how to be a baseball fan, -
7:42 - 7:45would you start by having them
understand the history of baseball, -
7:45 - 7:48who Abner Doubleday was,
what barnstorming was, -
7:48 - 7:51the influences of cricket and capitalism
and the Negro leagues? -
7:51 - 7:52Would you do that?
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7:52 - 7:54Would you say,
"OK, there's a test tomorrow. -
7:54 - 7:59I want you to memorize the top 50 batters
in order by batting average," -
7:59 - 8:04and then rank the people
based on how they do on the test -
8:04 - 8:08so the ones that do well get to memorize
more baseball players? -
8:08 - 8:11Is that how we would create
baseball fans? -
8:11 - 8:14Here is the key distinction.
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8:14 - 8:21What people do quite naturally is, if it's work,
they try to figure out how to do less. -
8:21 - 8:25And if it's art, we try to figure out
how to do more. -
8:25 - 8:30And when we put kids
in the factory we call school, -
8:30 - 8:35the thing we built to indoctrinate them
into compliance, -
8:35 - 8:41why are we surprised that the question is
"Will this be on the test?" -
8:41 - 8:43Someone who is making art doesn't say,
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8:43 - 8:46"Can I do one less canvas this month?"
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8:46 - 8:49They don't say, "Can I write
one less song this month?" -
8:49 - 8:54They don't say, "Can I touch
one fewer person this month?" -
8:54 - 8:57It's art. They want to do more of it.
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8:57 - 9:00But when it's work, when it's your job,
when you're seven, -
9:00 - 9:04of course you want
to do less of it. -
9:04 - 9:09So one of the things
that I've done as an application is -
9:09 - 9:12when I meet people, I take this out.
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9:12 - 9:13There's a great bargain online.
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9:13 - 9:16And it's filled with
these blocks, right? -
9:16 - 9:18You've probably seen blocks before.
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9:18 - 9:20I'm gonna dump them out of it.
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9:20 - 9:25And I say, "Take four blocks and
make them into something interesting." -
9:25 - 9:27Now it's an interesting question.
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9:27 - 9:29Because you can use the letters
and you can use the shapes -
9:29 - 9:31you can spell the word,
you can put a profanity there. -
9:31 - 9:33You can spell a word
that means nothing. -
9:33 - 9:34You can make the shape
into a bridge. -
9:34 - 9:37And people hate this.
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9:38 - 9:42Because there's no right answer
and there's a million wrong answers. -
9:42 - 9:45They hate this because
there's no Dummies Guide to -
9:45 - 9:50how to make something interesting out of blocks
when you are 30 years old. -
9:50 - 9:52And now, we are at a crossroads.
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9:52 - 9:56We're at a crossroads because as a culture
we say the only thing we care about, -
9:56 - 9:58the only place we are willing
to cross the street to go, -
9:58 - 9:59the only thing we are willing to buy,
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9:59 - 10:01the only person we are willing
to vote for, -
10:01 - 10:04the only stuff we are willing
to talk about -
10:04 - 10:05is interesting,
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10:05 - 10:07is art,
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10:07 - 10:08is new,
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10:08 - 10:10will touch us,
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10:10 - 10:11is valuable.
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10:11 - 10:14And then we spend all of our money
and all of our time -
10:14 - 10:17teaching people not to do that.
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10:17 - 10:20And so we're now at this crossroads
because technology is here too. -
10:20 - 10:22And the technology says,
you know what, -
10:22 - 10:26for the first time in history,
we do not need a human being -
10:26 - 10:28to stand next to us
to teach us to do square roots. -
10:28 - 10:30For the first time in history,
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10:30 - 10:34we do not need a human being
to teach us how to sharpen an ax -
10:34 - 10:37because the Internet connects us all.
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10:37 - 10:41And so I want to share with you 8 things
that I think are gonna change completely -
10:41 - 10:44if we decide how we want answer
to this question, -
10:44 - 10:46or maybe even if we don't.
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10:46 - 10:48One, as Sal Khan has pointed out,
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10:48 - 10:53homework during the day,
lectures at night. -
10:53 - 10:56World-class lecturers lecturing
on anything you want to learn -
10:56 - 11:00to every single person in the world
who's got an Internet connection for free. -
11:00 - 11:03And then all day go and sit
with a human being, a teacher -
11:03 - 11:08and ask your questions and do your work
and explore face-to-face. -
11:08 - 11:13It's stupid to have the same lecture
being given handmade -
11:13 - 11:1510,000 times a day across the country
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11:15 - 11:19when we can get one person to do it great
for the people who want to hear it. -
11:19 - 11:21Number two,
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11:21 - 11:23open book, open note all the time.
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11:23 - 11:28There is zero value
in memorizing anything ever again. -
11:28 - 11:32Anything that is worth memorizing
is worth looking up. -
11:32 - 11:36So we shouldn't spend any time
teaching people to memorize stuff. -
11:36 - 11:41Number three, access to any course anywhere
in the world anytime you want to take it. -
11:41 - 11:43So this notion that we have to do
things in a certain order, -
11:43 - 11:46which is based on physical location
and chronology, makes no sense. -
11:46 - 11:53Number four, precise focused education
instead of mass batch stuff. -
11:53 - 11:56That's the way we make
almost everything we buy now, right? -
11:56 - 11:59It used to be you could have any color of car
you wanted as long as it's black. -
11:59 - 12:01So we could keep
the assembly line going. -
12:01 - 12:04But now they make
ten thousand kinds of cars -
12:04 - 12:05because they can.
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12:05 - 12:07So we should make
ten thousand kinds of education. -
12:07 - 12:09No more multiple-choice exams.
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12:09 - 12:11Those were invented
to make them easy to score -
12:11 - 12:14but computers are
smarter than that. -
12:14 - 12:18Measuring experience
instead of test scores -
12:18 - 12:20because experience is
what we really care about. -
12:20 - 12:24The end of compliance
as an outcome. -
12:24 - 12:27The resume is proof that
you have complied -
12:27 - 12:29for years and years and years
with famous brand names -
12:29 - 12:30and it gets you your next job.
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12:30 - 12:32It's worthless now.
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12:32 - 12:34And cooperation
instead of isolation. -
12:34 - 12:38Why do we do anything
where we ask people to do it all by themselves -
12:38 - 12:43and then we put them in the real world
and say, "Cooperate." -
12:43 - 12:44Four more.
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12:44 - 12:46Teacher's role transforms into coach,
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12:46 - 12:51lifelong learning with work
happening earlier in your life, -
12:51 - 12:55and really important
the death of the famous college. -
12:55 - 12:57Not good college.
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12:57 - 12:58We don't know
what a good college is -
12:58 - 13:00but we know
what a famous college is -
13:00 - 13:01because someone ranked them
as famous -
13:01 - 13:03or because they have
a football team that is famous. -
13:03 - 13:05Why on earth are we paying extra,
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13:05 - 13:09why on earth are we working harder
to comply and be obedient? -
13:09 - 13:12Just so we get
a famous brand name -
13:12 - 13:18that has no relevance
to success or happiness -
13:18 - 13:19put after our name.
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13:19 - 13:23I want to show you one more device
I have over here as I start -- -
13:23 - 13:26This is called an Arduino.
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13:26 - 13:27It's a little bit like Raspberry Pi.
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13:27 - 13:32They're both electronic devices
that cost $20 to $30 each. -
13:32 - 13:34Raspberry Pi, which
you can buy for $25, -
13:34 - 13:37has on it the complete
Linux operating system, -
13:37 - 13:41a USB port, audio out,
and a monitor. -
13:41 - 13:45So if we take that cable
and that keyboard and that monitor -
13:45 - 13:48we already have in front of
almost every kid in this country -
13:48 - 13:50and hand them one of these.
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13:50 - 13:55We can then say to them,
"Go build something interesting -
13:55 - 13:58and ask if you need help."
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13:58 - 14:03Why wouldn't we want to teach our kids
to go do something interesting? -
14:03 - 14:07Why would we want to teach our kids
to figure it out? -
14:07 - 14:11And yet, everyday we send kids
to school and say, -
14:11 - 14:12"Do not figure it out,"
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14:12 - 14:15"Do not ask questions
I do not know the answer to," -
14:15 - 14:16"Do not look it up,"
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14:16 - 14:18"Do not vary
from the curriculum," -
14:18 - 14:22and better better better
better better comply, -
14:22 - 14:26fit in, be like your peers,
do what you're told -
14:26 - 14:28because I must process you,
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14:28 - 14:36because everything in my evaluation is
based on whether or not I processed you properly. -
14:36 - 14:38So, there are two myths
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14:38 - 14:39I want to close with --
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14:39 - 14:43The first one and we gotta be really honest
with ourselves about this. -
14:43 - 14:49Myth one: great performance in school
leads to happiness and success. -
14:49 - 14:53If that's not true,
we should stop telling ourselves it is. -
14:53 - 15:00And two: great parents have kids
who produce great performance in school. -
15:00 - 15:04If that's not true,
we should stop telling ourselves it is. -
15:04 - 15:09Are we asking our kids to collect dots
or connect dots? -
15:09 - 15:13Because we're really good at measuring
how many dots they collect, -
15:13 - 15:16how many facts
they have memorized, -
15:16 - 15:18how many boxes
they have filled in, -
15:18 - 15:22but we teach nothing about
how to connect those dots. -
15:22 - 15:25You cannot teach connecting dots
in a Dummies manual. -
15:25 - 15:28You cannot teach connecting dots
in a textbook. -
15:28 - 15:33You can only do it by putting kids
into a situation where they can fail. -
15:33 - 15:35Grades are an illusion.
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15:35 - 15:39Passion and insight are reality.
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15:39 - 15:44Your work is more important
than your congruence to an answer key. -
15:44 - 15:50Persistence in the face of a skeptical
authority figure is priceless. -
15:50 - 15:52And yet we undermine it.
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15:52 - 15:55Fitting in is a short-term strategy
that gets you nowhere. -
15:55 - 16:01Standing out is a long-term strategy
that takes guts and produces results. -
16:01 - 16:06If you care enough about your work
to be willing to be criticized for it -
16:06 - 16:09then you have done
a good day's work. -
16:09 - 16:10So what now?
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16:10 - 16:12What now?
What should we do? -
16:12 - 16:15Because we've been talking
about it a whole lot. -
16:15 - 16:17Only one thing.
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16:17 - 16:20Ask the question,
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16:20 - 16:23"What is school for?"
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16:23 - 16:25When they say this is our new textbook,
the question is, -
16:25 - 16:30"Is that going to help us with getting
what school is for?" -
16:30 - 16:33When they say this is the new superintendent,
we need to say, -
16:33 - 16:37"Yes, but is this superintendent going to help us do
what we think school is for?" -
16:37 - 16:40And if you don't know
what school is for, -
16:40 - 16:42then have a conversation about it.
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16:42 - 16:45Because until we can agree
what school is for, -
16:45 - 16:48we're not going to get
what we need. -
16:48 - 16:49Thank you for the work you do.
I appreciate it. -
16:49 - 16:51(Applause)
- Title:
- Stop stealing dreams - Seth Godin at TEDxYouth@BFS
- Description:
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Seth Godin says, the school system was designed to make obedient compliant interchangeable people suited for factory workers and it doesn’t lead to success or happiness of students in the current world. It’s time to change.
- Video Language:
- English
- Team:
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- Project:
- TEDxTalks
- Duration:
- 16:58
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