1-14-19 City Council

get started but prior to our beginning

we're gonna have a special work from our

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we'd appreciate it as we gather here

today we pray that we are ever mindful

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each day's problems

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let's call the meeting to order and I'll

ask the clerk to please take role County

here Coleman here Posen

here gray here Westergaard here

Mandelbaum yeah Gatto here we have a

quorum all right our first item on the

agenda tonight is approving a

recommendation by myself for appointment

for Mayor Pro Tem for the calendar year

of 2019

I want to thank council member Coleman

for his services Mayor Pro Tem and he

did an excellent job this year I am my

recommendation for appointment to Mayor

Pro Tem is our senior Ward council

person mr. bill gray Ward one so on and

do we need to have a move on that one as

my final action as the reigning Mayor

Pro Tem I wholeheartedly move the

mayor's recommendations bill you're a

good leader for our town if everybody

would assume I can vote on this Thank

You yourself well unless you don't have

confidence in the seven yes okay our

second item is approving the agenda as

presented and/or as amended and I will

quickly say that item for a council

member Coleman votes no 4l council

member Coleman votes no for M council

member kulmann votes no item eight

council member Coleman wishes to speak

item 15 councilmember Gray wishes to

speak in item 27 councilmember gray

boats no not that and where's my

okay in addition to that there are no

changes this evening

I'll move item two all right all in

favor say aye aye opposed item passes

the other next item is approving the

consent agenda those tonight are items 3

through 41 these are routine items that

are generally enacted by one roll call

votes without separate discussion unless

someone a council or public request

items be removed for additional

consideration or clarification the items

that I noted before have been asked to

be spoken item eight in item 15 are

there any others anybody has this

evening these are items again 3 through

41 asking if anybody has any items in

that group that they'd like to have

polled for further consideration

I see now mr. mayor we'll move item 3

don't get up and ask everybody voting in

progress any comments and none 7 yes all

right

that takes us to item 8 item 8 is a

public improvement approving the

professional services agreement with

Kirkham Michael and Associates Inc for

the ingersoll Avenue streetscape phase 1

Martin Luther King Parkway to 31st

Street not to exceed five hundred and

twenty-five thousand dollars council

communication number nineteen dash zero

one five mr. Coleman thank you I've been

lucky to vote on the ingersoll

streetscape improvements and I think

it's done an amazing job over there

tonight we're really talking about the

the architectural work

I I'm not quite sure there's a whole lot

I can do about it but Scott and Jeff in

particular I would just like to see us

find a way to streamline this it's my

understanding as I look at the designs

which the blue letter rightfully points

out that we've done most of the design

work we've done the conceptual stuff

we've there's pictures of it in there

but even with all that and the fact that

we've done something identical on many

blocks already in the corridor we're

spending another five hundred and

twenty-five thousand dollars to design

the next section and I have voiced this

not just about Ingersoll but many other

places I just think it's in the best

interest of our taxpayers to streamline

the conceptual designs that we might

spend for streetscape there might be

little tweaks we can do to make it

unique around the community but you know

this is gonna we're gonna have millions

of dollars on the Ingersoll streetscape

in just architectural fees and it seems

to me that it's just not that

complicated especially when we're

replicating what we've done for blocks

the rest of the way so that's that's my

primary frustration and concern it it

just seems repetitive and a bad use of

money and I wish we would have written

the specs to kind of build off of what

was done already I mean the blue letter

includes the design stuff I'm not really

quite sure what it is that we're getting

for the next five hundred thousand

dollars its manager would you want to

touch on that yeah I can answer to some

of that and pull up staff as well as as

they come up there are some elements of

the design that are different with

bump-outs in particular which you don't

often see in some other portions but a

lot of times that design has to be

specific to the site with the other

utilities the

right away constraints that are that are

specific to the segments that we're

looking at now that doesn't account

obviously for the full amount but you

can't just simply say I want the same

thing as what's on this block or that

block and not still have to design it

out for what the actual construction

specs would require to build that's a

good segue to it let's Steve thank you

honorable mayor members of City Council

Steve neighbor city engineer basically

the the drawing that you included that I

included in the council communication is

a a concept not to read it but it's

basically a pretty drawing it's just a

surface drawing what would this what

this engineering services contract

includes is actually that detailed

design the sake of actually putting

elevations to those curves actual

dimensions designing the stormwater

drainage so that you can actually when

you add these bump outs and change the

curb lines you can make them drain

that's designing the actual

reconstruction of the roadway photo

metrics for lighting it's it's it's the

actual detailed design so all that's

been done to date to be honest this is a

conceptual estimate of what the

geometrics could look like so and then

they also put the contract

specifications bid items they calculate

all the quantities that that the

contractors use to develop their bids

and so none of that work has been done

this actually is for just for phase one

- is it comes communication States is

this not about the ten to twelve percent

or even potentially less of the total

project cost if we may so if we're

looking at that's right but yeah it's

it's because yeah the total project cost

is sixteen million we're probably

looking at about two and a half out two

and a quarter if I remember the total

four for fees

so are we going to be able to take this

and use it in other sections are we

gonna every time we do a streetscape

project we're we're we working out this

kind we can take concepts and apply it

out elsewhere but in terms of like

actual elevations and how drainage works

that it never yeah you cannot take it

anywhere else you you at all you would

need to detail out you know the grades

are different the utilities are

different in each location

so but in terms of like a concept or a

principle you could take that elsewhere

but but but a specific design you

typically never use elsewhere and I

think one of the other things that has

happened is we've looked at different

sections of town there's certain

infrastructure pieces that are

underground that are going to be

affected as you mentioned the water in

the intakes and what are part of which

it was put in place over 150 years ago

and so we've got to you know deal with

that and you've got to have some pretty

expert opinions I think in a lot of

those cases especially coming down

Ingersoll and that area that has some

older infrastructure that that really

needs to be addressed and the other

thing with Street scapes again it comes

back a lot of its televisions when we're

working with the Americans with

Disabilities Act design guidelines your

sidewalks are there's requirements on

those sidewalks slopes and that not only

at the intersection ramps and corners

themselves at driveways and even the

cross slope itself when you're changing

that curb line those can be quite be

quite cumbersome I used to be the

streetscape diet at my previous firm and

have rebuilt all of downtown DeKalb's

eyen Glenview a number of communities

and and that was always a very

challenging Elizabeth it was detailing

out what those elevations could be any

other questions those are good points I

get a second question I felt this is

about funding I I felt like the

statement there I just want to make sure

I'm not reading too much into it it it

said that with the current increment it

was fully funded

that's God I'm kind of looking to you

can you get infirmed at and just when

when is that is that development that's

already happened or does that include an

anticipated development yes so I can

clarify that the existing growth along

Ingersoll in valuation is sufficient to

pay debt service on the full project and

so there's excess capacity within the

TIF from a valuation standpoint it would

still take borrowing to get it done but

it can be done through the the TIF

growth that's already occurred to this

point and that's each of the that's each

of the phases in total in totality so

the district as a whole there's I

haven't done the analysis of

block-by-block what growth is a clear

yeah but but the four phases I think

it's yes yes so you're saying the

increment is there with the growth has

already occurred correct tomorrow

against the whole project

understanding that the motivation to do

this project is there are still a lot of

parcels along Ingersoll that have the

opportunity to expand further so there's

that opportunity to development to

recoup the cost even further yet with

future growth and that's that's a key

point that differs from some other TIF

opportunities and streetscapes alright

other questions I'm happy to move item

eight appreciate the discussion seven

yes I taste item 15 land property

transactions of a authorization to

proceed with acquisition the necessary

property interests for the Merle hay

road and Hickman intersection

improvements project council

communication number 19 - zero-one-zero

husband gray Thank You mayor this is

gonna go back to ancient history but

five years ago when I first got on the

City Council the first thing that I

brought forward to rick clark the city

manager was i want to take a look at

redoing the corner of Merle hay and

Hickman five years later what have we

got this this is really you know if you

if you look at what the intent of this

is it says right here the goals of these

improvements are to entreat increase the

traffic capacity and improve the safety

of the intersection at Merle hay road

and hip let me tell you what we have

there we have probably the worst

intersection in the entire city of des

moines a five-way intersection this

doesn't make any sense and this is the

gate Western gateway for people coming

in to visit des moines I won't go into

signage because Windsor Heights has a

nice monument sign identifying their

territory

bourbon Dale has a nice sign identifying

their territory and if it weren't for

the Merle hay neighborhood posting a

sign you wouldn't even know you're in

Des Moines but that's another issue that

we can go at but this you know if you

look at this inner

section there's only one corner that is

turning lights people are piled up there

we have a letter from Jason poem Merle

hay Neighborhood Association president

one of his big concerns in the Myrtle in

the whole neighborhood association is

the fact that westbound traffic on

Hickman has no no left-hand turn lane at

all and again it comes back to this

eminent domain and what we need to do

we're already going after three separate

property owners for four improvements

but keep in mind now we have some new

businesses in here they're gonna warrant

more traffic Ivy's going to be opening

up one of their fresh and fast stores on

the northwest corner they're in this

spring CVS has just invested a lot of

money on the northeast corner there and

we have a new housing development up the

street on rural haein and Franklin I

keep looking at this and this can has

been kicked down the road

way too long we missed when CVS was

built as we could have taken part of

that property and put a turn lane in

which shows not to IVs going to be doing

some stuff but we're going to put in a

left-hand two left-hand turning lane

it's not take into account that crazy

corner where people can just drive in

and make a complete turn without having

to stop this is if this intersection is

atrociously designed it's not conducive

to the betterment of the neighborhood

nor the City of Des Moines

also that's its state highway highway 28

roars up through there I did talk to

engineering at one time about the path

white why it was this crazy design set

up and some were in the fifties the

concept came well we're gonna make Merle

hay road a six-lane superhighway and

then we're going to bend all the traffic

down murkland way which is a one-way to

head towards a future freeway

well now that stuffs ever happened and

Merkel away those poor people that live

there after coming home from downtown

they have to drive down probably 55th

get down to Hickman Road and

backtrack to get on berkland way so they

can get to their home this whole corner

has been a hodgepodge of patches I would

like to see with the backing of the

Merle hay Neighborhood Association I

want to see where we can move forward

and make this a corner that that the

city can be proud of is functionally

good and and meets the needs of the

neighborhood as well as the city so I

will move fifteen but added it to the

stipulation that I want this referred

back to the city manager and engineering

we need a target well I was just told it

cost too much money tell me what it is

we have got to have a target to go and

we got to work with the Neighborhood

Association

I want this corner fixed before I leave

this earth so yeah I do too but that's

my motions all right move fifteen with

the stipulation that we refer to the

city management engineering let's get

design done let's make something that's

functional it's going to work for our

city and let's get a price tag on it

that we can shoot for that moment I'd

love to see that master plan even if we

have to walk away from the price tag

because I think it can be affordable

I think the five-way intersection has to

stop you and I have talked about that

since the day you got a lie that's

exactly right it is we're fixing so

that's a persuasive mayor pro-tem over

there coming out of the blocks fight

seven yes okay that completes the

consent agenda and Nexus communications

reports this one from item 42 from Joe

grand Annette of 6215 Gordon Avenue to

speak regarding streets sewers bike

paths and the one cent sales tax

Joe mayor and the City Council people

I'm back both of us

anything has happened since I was here

last and talked about the bike pass

after I had left the last time you voted

for about over two hundred thousand

dollars for a bike path on the south

side and just recently you voted six to

one for the amount of five hundred and

fifty two thousand four hundred seventy

six dollars and seventy seven thousand

dollars it was over budget

your billy bike pass at the expense of

the homeowners they have lost their

homes due to bad sewers and streets if

you want to be good stewards of our

money I would think that you would fix

the roads and the streets and the sewers

that are falling in the bike paths is a

good idea but not at the expense of the

homeowners who need and equated outdated

outmoded sewers and how you could vote

for that I don't understand why and

that's one of the reasons why I'm back

here Grand Avenue Ingersoll University

every major thoroughfare in this town

needs to be repaved did you have do you

have a plan for resurfacing them in

addition to the resurfacing them the

sewers are outdated and yes you're

addressing it some this spring but now

you have less money to do more because

you're spending it on bike paths

45 years ago Bill Riley started bike

paths down at Ashford swimming pool you

want to get the bike people off the

streets so they would be safe

and now we're wanting more bicycles on

streets and they don't pay their way now

in Oregon just this last couple last

year you know you come up you come up

and complain about things you got to

have a solution why don't the bike

people pay the way they should save some

something in it for them and you bike

over $200 in Oregon they got to pay $15

and they're gonna raise 1.2 million

dollars before he can do that or I can't

de Moines Iowa I remember when I was a

little kid we used to go up the fire

station I don't know how much it was I

used to get a your little sticker and

you put it on your bike I don't know if

it was free or not but everything

everybody was accounted for so bike

paths are a good idea but not when you

have other other things that need that

are really needed for these poor

homeowners that have had their houses

ruined because of this and the people

that go back and forth to work every day

because we pay higher property taxes in

the City of Des Moines then all the rest

of the suburbs

so our Road should be more pristine than

the suburbs since we're getting more

money from the homeowners but our roads

are less now as I understand you're

fixing floor drive did you concede to 11

feet or 12 feet I left I don't know if

the lanes are gonna be loving feet or

twelve feet but fluor drive is going to

be fixed and it is bad I will tell you

and now you're going to fix it

and also I went up to I talked about the

bike situation at East Village I talked

to several the people up there I do know

a lot of the owners up there they

appreciate the fact that I went there

and talked but there's also a problem

now with they put in a steel post with a

little sign going one way it's not very

forgiving if you have a truck and if you

have and if you have businesses coming

in there with big semis beer trucks pop

trucks in the amp service there's not

enough room for the truck driver to get

through or get by because they have to

stick out because now they have a sign

there that you can't move over and also

all the pylons that you have on the east

side they're all pushed down and pushed

over I thought we had a person that

manages the bike thing now isn't that

his job to make sure that it is that it

looks good because I think it looks

pretty bad so is that my time okay I

didn't get to talk about other things

but I will be back thank you for your

time

I hope you taken considerations when you

make decisions on behalf of the people

that you represent that you're good

stewards of our money

that's what City Council people do thank

you thank you Joe

all right thank you Joe it's 4:58 let's

hear from Alex hoops of 2330 University

Avenue to speak regarding predatory

towing witnesses slide yep I do make a

quick motion to receive him file mr.

Graetz

comments I'll make that motion they

receive a file mr. and Annette's having

passes thank you okay

all right we have some more stuff for

receiving file yeah I'll move to receive

and file his documents he has another

power thank you you know all in favor

say aye aye aye aye Bose and business

all right now it's your up yeah Thank

You mr. mayor thank you

members of the City Council for the

opportunity to speak here today I'm

gonna work in good faith to get through

all this in in my five minutes so I'm

here today to talk about the issue of

predatory towing I want to start by just

orienting you to the current ordinances

that deal with the removal of vehicles

from private property in a nutshell the

ordinances today say that any vehicle

that is parked on private property

without the permission of the owner is

illegally parked and there are two ways

that a private property owner can handle

that situation

one is to all of them flow through

contacting the police department in

which case they can offer a citation or

they can have the vehicle removed and

impounded but again this all is done

through the police department the

Department of Public Works or the

Department of Community Development so

that's those are the current ordinances

in the Municipal Code in

des Moines that cover the removal of

vehicles from private property so what

do I mean when I talk about predatory

towing there's a lot of different

aspects to predatory towing I'm going to

really focus on just two of those

aspects so when I say predatory towing

I'm talking about a private

non-consensual tow that has either of

the following aspects either entrapment

which is concealing the intense to tow

or price gouging which is charging

significantly above market rates for

towing services so I say private in that

these would be toes that are not

pursuant to a citation that are not

ordered by either the police department

or the Department of Public Works and

they're and they're fairly common

obviously I have a personal story that's

what brings me here today so in December

of last year I had parked in a

commercial zone parking lot across the

street from a restaurant that I was

going to this parking lot is near Drake

University and as I pulled in I made

sure to check the walls check the curb

cuts look for signage that would

indicate that this was a parking lot

that I could not park in and went to the

establishment I was there for about two

hours when I came out and my car was

gone there was a tow truck there that

was removing another vehicle at the time

so I went for the tow truck driver and I

said oh I imagine my car got towed when

I pulled in I looked for a sign where's

the sign I don't see any sign that would

say this is not a place that I can park

and he gestured to the corner there so

just to orient you to the photos on the

screen what you're looking at is the

wall adjacent to the parking lot and the

big photo on the right you can see

there's kind of two parts to the wall

large and short bottom laughs we start

to zoom in a little bit more and you can

still see those two parts of the wall

and the top left you can see the sign

that the tow truck driver had referenced

that says towed vehicles can be redeemed

at such-and-such location so on that

entire wall the sign that they chose

supposed was that one the fair

for bottom right hand corner of that

fairly large wall so I went to the lot

the next morning I had a friend drive me

home that night my wife and my wife

brought me there the next day and I

challenged the owner and I said you know

I'm not sure that this is a very

upstanding way to conduct business they

basically gave me two choices you said

you can either pay to get your car back

today and take me to court feel like

you've been wronged to get your money

back or you can leave and if you don't

want to do either of those things I will

call the cops on you for trespassing

while I was standing there and had the

opportunity to see three other people

that were in front of me in line deal

with this same owner and it seemed like

they were in situations that were fairly

similar to the one that I was in towing

under maybe suspect conditions but what

was different about their interactions

was you know I was talking about

ordinances and statutes and an in due

process and the people in front of you

were talking about how they had to call

in to miss their shift that day because

they didn't have their car or how they

did not have the money to get their car

out that day so unfortunately I have a

salaried position it was fairly easy for

me to just say hey boss me to be in a

couple hours late while I get my car the

fee I had to pay was you know more of a

nuisance than a financial hardship

clearly not the case for everybody that

was there that day so I could very

easily take them to small claims courts

try to try to get my money back that

would solve my problem but this is

something that happens

dozens of times every day and that would

go and change the ball I did was was

taking the small plane sports

I just want to talk to this part

proposed ordinances so what I think we

could do to address this there's really

three things required posted signage and

lots it's clearly visible limit the fees

that can be charged and imposed

penalties on towing companies who

violate those rules this last slide that

I'll touch on I looked at what other

cities in the Midwest do to address this

situation and it turns out that many of

them have rules on the books I through

statute or ordinance that address these

three issues so there's a lot of

precedents to look to and they seem to

have found ways to effectively deal with

this matter so thank you for your time

today

all right Alex thank you

all right it is 505 before I guess we

need to receive them file and if you

have a comment

great yeah well I I would I mean I

appreciate the comments that have been

made in the suggestions I would

certainly appreciate from the city

attorney maybe seeing how this compares

to our ordinance and the suggestions

made and and if there is any

recommendation for best practices that

we as a city could could implement

through situations like this and I

welcome your recommendations so I'd make

a motion to just to be clear in that and

I I would support Josh's motion but just

to be clear there is a picture that you

had posted on there and I have the same

exact picture

you didn't zoom in on the loo no

trespassing the one that says posted no

trespassing the holes in the building

where people have ran into the building

and that's why they don't want your

parking in that some of those photos I

think you left out I mean there's

pictures of where cars have hit the

building so I mean I think the owners of

that building or I mean a picture of

that right there where where a car has

banged into the building

yeah and that's that's part of the

reason why they don't want trespassing

and cars parked on that lot and your car

was towed that night yeah I believe that

but I think that if you look at

businesses right I mean if you drive

around the East Village you can see

plenty of examples of businesses that

clearly do not want people to park there

I completely inaccurate Ian's better

links than that to make that known so

and I said that to them too if they

really didn't want people to park there

they would take a better approach than

the one that they Joe

and I would think that they have

probably taken a much better approach if

you've gone out there now and my

understanding that they went out there

30 minutes after you left here their

yard and all of these signs were posted

on that building at that time so I'm not

I'm not sure what the deal is but I

I mean I'd support whatever motion but

there there is two sides and I know that

the towing company has a very difficult

job because he has difficulties there me

as a small business owner and I've spoke

with Josh how people just dump cars into

my businesses property stolen cars cars

that don't run anymore

they'll just leave them and without with

that and I don't have any signs posted

but I would be stuck with that car in

there if we didn't tell that car yeah

and and I want to state that I have a

appreciation for the rights of private

property owners but I think that's the

balance that we need to strike yeah

because I agree with you I think if

someone sees a sign and they say to heck

with I'm gonna park there in some

respect you've consented to have your

car towed

yeah well but those are not situations

I'm talking about no that's alright

unforgivable motion here to receive in

file and just get recommendations if

there any best practices that are not

currently in our ordinance I with

Councilman Gatos points being well taken

I mean private property owners have a

right to remove vehicles it's if there's

anything that can be that we should be

thinking about relating to notice or if

there's you know the p4 Shahnaz well

those things seem reasonable to address

every issues right over here are on some

other issues that I think it would be

worthwhile

yeah all right so we're going to receive

in file and refer to appropriate

departments for recommendations on how

to work through this issue okay setting

yes

all right let's it is now 509 we're

gonna skip quickly to our hearings we're

past our five o'clock opening time first

item is 48 which are items regarding

Gray's landing and gray station urban

renewal projects located south of Martin

Luther King jr. Parkway and west of

Southwest 9th Street a is closing the

public hearing on the issuance of not to

exceed 8 million 500,000 urban renewal

revenue refunding section 108 government

guaranteed participation certificates

and one or more notes issued as part of

said series of the City of Des Moines

state of Iowa council communication

number 19 - 0 - 4 1 under that is

instituting and proceeding to take

additional action mr. attorney should we

read all three of these into this and

see if there's any comment on on any

amount once or take them dipped

separately you can read them all

together all right

he is closing the three party agreement

with the river point West LLC and HRC

and fs1 limited liability corporation

which provides for the sale at

city-owned land - rear Pointe West LLC

in approving same accounts communication

number 19 - 0 - 1 C is conditionally

approving the third amended and restated

urban renewal development agreement with

River Pointe West LLC for the Gray's

landing project council communication

number 19 - 0 to 2 let's go ahead and

open the hearing and see if there's

anybody in the audience who would like

to speak to this item

seeing none let's go ahead and see if

there's any council discussion on items

48 a B and C I'm happy to move items 48

48 a B and C appreciate all the work

that staff is put into put into this I

know it's been complicated there have

been lots of parties but this will

hopefully pay dividends down the line

and I'm excited to see things moving

forward and in this area

your most includes 48 a1 includes 40 a1

thank you for the clarification

seven yes

all right 49 on the urban renewal

development agreement with Market

District one LLC to purchase and develop

city-owned property at 401 southeast

Sixth and 400 South East seventh Street

in the Metro Center urban renewal area

and improving the conceptual development

plan counts communication number 19 -

zero zero five let's open the hearing on

this item and see if there's anybody in

the audience who would like to speak to

this item anyone seeing none

Council I will move item 49 hopefully we

can dig a hole and build something mr.

levy at this point and we won't have

this in front of us again mr. Connelly's

out there

I can't think of a oh he's right there I

can't think of a more persistent

development very persistent they have

not given up which is great this might

have been four years that I may be yeah

that's the first time I talked to you I

didn't see Matt so yeah I'll move item

49 seven yes

1050 on approval of documents for

conveyance of excess city-owned property

located at southeast 25th Street south

of Shaw Street to Jose Gonzalez a for

ten thousand nine hundred and fifty five

dollars open the hearing is there anyone

here to speak to this item regarding

property located on South East 25th

Street

I seem done mr. mayor I'll be divided

fifty right item fifties been moved

seven yes item 51 on the conveyance of

city-owned property at 1124 thirteen

Street in eleven no thirteen eleven

Laurel Street - indigo dawn LLC for

redevelopment of housing council

communication number 19 - double O three

any buddy here to speak on this item you

want to speak okay

anybody have any thoughts for questions

he's doing great great work done happy

to move out in 51

your choice sir seven yes

item 52 items regarding properties at

1900 1904 1912 and 1914 Southwest 4th

Street CS family properties LLC a is to

amend the existing plan DSM creating our

tomorrow plan future land use

designation from medium desserted

density residential to community

mixed-use to allow for rezoning to

limited dr down town riverfront and the

redevelopment for senior living

apartments at a density of up to 40

units per acre be is a hearing on the

rezoning the property from our three

multiple family residential to limited

dr downtown riverfront c is the first

consideration of the ordinance above d

is the final consideration the ordinance

above the waiver is requested by the

applicant and requires six votes let's

open the hearing on this item and I

think before Kieran gets closed if no

one comes up to speak I think we have

some questions where it might be useful

that staff come up yeah we may not even

want to close this here yeah okay

all right anybody here to speak to this

item its people leaving nobody to speak

to it okay let's turn back to the

council and let's let's discuss this

project anybody have any comments I

think there were there's just been some

questions related to the infrastructure

and I I wouldn't mind if there's someone

from staff that could help get a full

picture of the infrastructure that maybe

even put the photos up to understand

because my understanding is that there's

gonna be you know the full urban

cross-section required in some areas but

maybe not others and I just want to

understand where the proposed units are

what's happening in the length of the

property and where there might not throw

things

where where there might not be

don't know things I know

slide up a little bit

I just pulled it yeah

so the question about the cross-section

that yep

looking is on Southwest first right here

this st. Anthony's right here mm-hmm

it's right there and then on Edison here

that's what we're referring to of I know

the questions we answered for council

today yeah so so that whole length of

Southwest birth and that whole length of

Medicine we're requires a full cross

section which includes sidewalks gutter

curve and then the Columbus Avenue piece

in the southwest segment we are not

requiring that that correct my

understanding for this it's only on

Southwest first and then just Edison so

that will be the requirement of the

developer to put curb sidewalk gutter

yep on both of those streets pull from

Southwest second to from for Edison from

Southwest second dis outlets first yep

how about Columbus not not for sight

nothing nothing on Columbus nothing on

Southwest second yep okay

is Southwest second used is that the I

know there's a parcel that's closed

further to the north of Southwest second

that another developer owns and has a

sign up and doesn't allow through

traffic is that correct

is that Southwest second I'm not sure

about that Joe is Matt here

Southwest second is it is that like we

talked about today Matt that was up

there the Hansen where they turn in in

front of where that Reese is the

construction the semi place I know I'm

pretty sure it is so it's not really

it's not really a through Street south

of a second it's one on warm

yes no it goes up and then you can go

over or Madison flattest to get to in L

Avenue but you can't go any further then

then Madison flats and I believe we had

Madison flats put that Street in and

turn lane and that media and I believe

they had to put that in is that right I

don't know somebody been around long

enough this probably tell me because I

wasn't on the council at that time let

me

this is map

so here's st. Anthony's yeah

maybe Laura has it up here is that that

doesn't go out far yeah that doesn't go

out far enough the bad sand flats is at

the top of that page I don't know can

you zoom into that Chris see the cross

streets okay where you might want to

come up and then so you can address some

of these issues because I know the

neighborhood had some of these issues

that we talked about a little bit at the

neighborhood meeting yeah that's what I

was just telling him hi mr. mayor and

city council core hey by the way the

street that is in front of Iron Works is

that what we're talking about

Southwest 2nd yeah yeah that actually

connects to Indianola it comes out right

where that massive flat is and you're

done you know right right come right

ridge yeah it will run in to know that

streets close or do they guys not that

is actually not a through Street in

there I'll sign up that says that is not

a through Street okay because a

developer it pushes that whole area so

that it does not go all the way to the

bridge do they just do that maybe about

four or five months ago because I've

received numerous complaints about that

even though it's Josh's War I do not

know that there's an alternative oh

there is an alternative path that's why

to it turn there is large it or Maddox

appliances if your honor then you got a

HDMI in there

yeah oh wait enjoy no no

yeah go to the camera here we go okay

okay so Joe this is cut Matt Anderson

deputy city manager

councilman Gatto this is what we were

looking at this morning so right here is

where yep that's close now that's closed

now where you could come get to this

property directly from Indianola as this

gentleman has stated but this is closed

now barricades aren't up but there is a

sign put up at any point in time

barricades could be put up so you you

have to come in off of Dunham's and then

down second to get to the ironworks

place or to your facility if you came in

off of any and all that Avenue so South

last second I believe that that's yeah I

mean you can come in off of Southwest

first but I mean Dunham and Edison

Edison would yeah so some of the

concerns that the neighbors had had was

walkability to the bike path and also a

curb and gutter around around that and

who was going to pay for it and what

what the what the cop you know who's

responsible for it

and I guess we just all need to be clear

before we go forward what we're doing

here and you're gonna need to know and

so and what we're all gonna need to be

on the same page and I'm not sure how we

do it with other developments I know

some of them have done some some of them

haven't did all of them some of them

because I know there's certain portions

that we've allowed them not to do it and

then I've gotten complaints that why is

there a big puddle on the street you got

a brand new building and we didn't we

didn't do the new street or sewer on

there we were basing it off of that

Madison flat and kind of what the pre-op

medium was saying they were saying

whatever our main entrance may be say

it's Edison sure that we would have to

provide the curb and all that and cooked

as them to the main entrance and then

hoping this you know the city would

probably or somebody down the road would

take care of Columbus and what's out of

the one Burge target third second we

just need to be clear because right now

it's not in our five-year CIP to put

curb gutter street improvements to

either one of those streets so I mean we

just need to clear what we're doing here

and I just want to look ahead and try to

be somewhat proactive instead of

reactive to this because I know when

this goes in they're gonna look at you

and I and Josh and say who's gonna fix

that Street yeah

really they're gonna look at John yet so

does it include because we have a map on

our and in our council book that only

shows that you're only using half of the

parcel you're using the full block

aren't you crap right because you have

parking and you have a community garden

of retention that so well you do

landscaping along the southwest second

right you know and finish that off

I guess I'm open for whatever the city

and I would just say you know at least

if you had Lance requirements would be

so would you be open to do

the full the full street section on all

four sides you know at this point

probably not just because we have to see

what it's gonna cost to build the

project anyway you know I've already I

think we're already thinking around

seven yeah seven million to do it

already

no it is not is it nine yeah so either

way I at this point we would just like

to improve the main entrance off of

Edison I I think it sounds like a great

project on the on the one in on the

other hand I'm somewhat concerned about

you know how we deal with water issues

knowing that that area can tend to be a

little damp down there and so how do we

deal with that I mean you're gonna use

permeable pavement are we having trees I

mean bioswales Gardens I mean what are

we doing about those issues mr. mayor my

name is Pierce Cody I've worked with

Simonson and associates architects and

we're here with Cory today is the

developer water retention of course by

city standard is required on all new

developments so we will have on-site

detention for our own water that we're

generating on this site while this is an

early concept of course for landscaping

keeping as much of the site in turf as

opposed to concrete and were we defined

that we can't accommodate everything

with surface detention in the lower

corner of the site we would of course

have to entertain underground detention

as well but we would meet city standards

in that regard relative to the street

improvements based on our pre AB meeting

with city staff and Beansie they've

requested that we do full section across

Southwest first and Essen and I believe

frankly that it wasn't even the full

extent of Edison it was primarily the

two

portions of the street were our main

entry into the site so that increased

traffic generated to the site is

actually going on top of improved baton

on as opposed to saying that might be in

a little bit lesser condition older

condition they did not have a

requirement for us to do urban gutter

and certainly not full section on all

four sides of the property there might

be a compromise position where we would

think about curb and gutter on the other

two sides but frankly I'm not sure that

buys us much improvement because

whatever eventually replaces those two

streets would have to match up with what

we do and at the time without any design

work who knows how well that would tie

into what the future plan is so from our

perspective I think we're being pretty

generous in the sense that we're paving

to full public streets sidewalks curb

and gutter on the sites that we are but

of course you may disagree with that I

understand that this neighborhood needs

more the question is whether this

development should do it all so are you

not because it kind of shows on this

piece of paper that you're putting

sidewalks all the way around your

property yes we are putting sidewalks on

a site cooperating so what we're more

concerned about of course the the full

width of the street curb and gutter on

both sides that's a much larger suspense

sapelo seconds really a road that it's

halfway closed I mean that's there isn't

much traffic it doesn't it shouldn't the

only traffic you're gonna get is when

the kids are getting dropped off to

school and these people can't pull out

and go down Edison they're gonna go to

where mattes and flat is and go go away

from that Columbus there's nothing other

than an ironworks behind it I mean

there's no accessibility to anything

other than Southwest second so I'm sure

that's what P & Z was was looking at

when they looked at it there's no I mean

if you

there's a daycare there but really I

think this is the parking for Iron Works

isn't it that gravel that gravel dry

believe so so there's absolutely nothing

there so I mean if if the improvements

this house bursts are completed and them

got sidewalks all the way around

yep and Edison is is completed up to

your access point and probably goes

beyond it to some Riya I'll be honest

I'm a little fuzzy about how much we've

committed to and pnz there but I do know

that we're replacing at least portion of

that stream what one of my questions is

you'll look at this area and knowing

what's kind of to the west of it up to

the river end down I mean that that at

some are another especially with a nice

development here that may open up to

something besides ironworks certain in

whatever and so what access are we're

going to use moving down the the road to

get access to that property that could

also have some future value as well and

you know if we just toss it out and say

well done there now and you know it's

not going to happen though agreed we

have to have but at the same time if

whatever replaces Iron Works uses

Columbus as their main entry which I

think they probably would it seems like

that improvement comes along with that

project much like we're improving our

project I just think we have to make the

pathways to make that a possibility and

at least see that as a potential at this

time what Ray you know lay the

groundwork for something in the future

to happen not that we have to pave all

that stuff but just make sure we

recognize that you know that's probably

what's going to happen we're talking

about Joe you and I talked about

recently you know a a scrapyard not far

from here that needs to be removed that

there are some developers that are

looking at real hardened and that's that

you know first I want to say centuries

but decades I've been something that we

would never have imagined that there'd

be this kind of interest but looking at

everything that's happened so positively

in the East Village and then seeing some

really positive thing

happen around this and I think member

there goes to discussion we had at

Beansie which is currently this site is

well there there are two parcels there's

an alley that runs up and down on this

plan between the two sites what is

already our downtown riverfront the

others are three I believe it is and

we're asking that we change the are

three to match the D are on the other

side that way we have consistent zoning

consistent setbacks that sort of thing

across the parcel but ultimately in the

current land use plan this entire

neighborhood eventually kind of goes to

be a dr a kind of level of density and

and as this neighborhood redevelops

that's probably what it's going to take

on in terms of its character much like

the apartments long you need all have

done already so i think this is another

step in the evolution of this

neighborhood someone so that we're gonna

have storm sewers on sapless first

correct water is gonna go into a storm

sewer and go away from this I'm gonna be

very honest I don't know if there was

existing storm sewer in that as I see an

existing storm sewer on southla second

and this is there one on top recording

right here Joe over here the water main

a sanitary sewer but I mean if you're

gonna put curb and me wait no it's

actually here because you put it has a

water sanitary and storm sewer shall be

provided in accordance with City of Des

Moines standards on here does that mean

that you're well right there public

storm sir okay perfect right there so

you'll be able to tap into that when we

finish the screen everything I'll be

fine right down there on the corner

where Saint Anthony's is you swell it

goes all along Columbus there as well

okay when I noticed that on the I guess

the southwest corner of the property

there's that little note that says

proposed connection to public storms or

I'm sorry from the detention area from

the detention base right yes

so where's the storm tore well there's a

storm sewer an existing 10-inch in

Columbus Avenue down the center who

can't read and then I believe the

detention area of showing it exiting II

to another to the mr. mayor

okay so there's storms who are on the

west side of the property yes so that's

there it's just not a well finished

street so I guess I would my other

question how do we I guess we've

collected the storm water where do we

take it there's a place today get to see

it unfortunately Southwest seconds that

we need to figure out I mean if that

streets gonna be closed then we could

easily take it to Columbus Avenue I mean

yeah but you've already got a sewer

there you're gonna write you know I I

just I mean I'm comfortable with

Southwest verse I think the neighbors

would appreciate that being finished I

think they would appreciate Edison with

curb and gutter being finished with the

with the storm sewer I think I

appreciate the mayor's comments and I

think all of us are concerned that I'm

sure Iron Works isn't probably going to

be there forever this could be a

catalyst but I mean whoever or whenever

that happens then that might be a

responsibility of them plus you know a

portion of the city CIP to you know

strengthen some some other development

to the West there I think I think that

that answers a lot of the questions that

that we had yeah

and the neighbors really and I think to

all this it really gives a nice nod to

affordable housing so well at least for

1200 first thing we're successful with

hyper so yeah absolutely yeah you're

gonna go ahead and build it if you don't

get the iPhone probably not subsidized

housing is very very tight business so

okay yeah well I yeah I think we need we

need the housing I I'm hopeful it's a

catalyst in this area as well because

this area has a

tremendous amount of potential

appreciate that in detail in unison with

that I'm willing to move item 52 ABC and

seven yes 153 these are items regarding

property at 11:45 and 1147 24th Street

Mulvihill Farms Inc has to mend the

existing plan dsm creating our tomorrow

plan future land use designation from

low medium density residential to

neighborhood mixed-use to allow for

rezoning to limited NPC neighborhood

pedestrian commercial and expansion of

the off street parking for existing

multifamily dwellings in for shared

parking for nearby mixed-use be is a

hearing on the rezoning the property

from our 160 low density residential the

NPC neighborhood pedestrian commercial C

is the first consideration the orange

above D is the final consideration of

the ordinance above and the waiver is

requested by the applicant and requires

six votes let's go ahead and open the

hearing and see if anybody's here to

speak about this project over just south

of the University on 24th Street we

should we should kind of Chris up to

achieve

don't be knocking that chair over Chris

you want to step up and if you would

like to speak or you want to respond to

what I'll just speak don't care about it

that'll be grand

I'm Robert Mulvihill I own those

properties and I requested the zoning

change to get more parking for those

three properties the 1147 property does

not have any off street parking and it's

the five Plex so it needs about seven

spaces or so the 1145 building that's

the parking lot is there but it needs to

be resurfaced and then I'm starting a

new business at 11:39 24th Street which

is a third property and it could use

more parking for the business so we used

by converting it's commercial we could

kind of have a shared use parking

between the three properties so that was

kind of reasoning behind it and there's

been more parking on 24th Street this

past year just due to changes in

Tennessee but Drake properties

and against the the questions in this

this is going to be as much for for

Chris but probably gonna have some

questions here too you know we've got

the neighborhood pilot program going on

and I had a question about how this

connects and you know particularly when

we're doing something that will you know

we're looking to the property owners

looking to add value and we're trying to

bring up the quality of of all of these

properties and how are we thinking about

that and in particular these properties

you know I've been out there and you

know this is the money that's being

invested in these properties that

there's clearly some need for investment

in from maybe even meeting code but also

improving that exterior and curb appeal

of these properties as well

mayor member city council chris

johansson community velopment director

with regards to the two rental

properties particular i think that's

exactly what you're getting at

for currently on our current rental code

I know this is something we could take a

look at and address more immediately

than waiting for the our pilot areas to

complete I know they do have rental

certificates right now but this is

something we could go out and address

right now with addition to moving

forward with our our neighborhood

revitalization program I think one thing

we're trying to do is develop more

incentives for these types of properties

we've talked not only about having some

sort of program to help with the repair

cost for this loans grants we haven't

gotten all through that yet but that's

an opportunity to something to look at

to address these types of issues not

only just for the rental but also for

the single-family as well but where

we're at right now I I'm comfortable in

saying that we drove by and looked at

the properties today this is something

we could we could do a reinfection with

them in address before the end of this

project happens yeah well I guess

one of the questions that that I have

just in general with the neighborhood

plans when you're we're talking about

incentives well and I mean zoning is one

of the tools that we have and we have I

mean it's an incentive to property

owners if they want to come in and ask

us for rezoning that that they invest in

their property right I mean there's

nothing wrong with us and they go bring

it out to come yeah we have to be really

careful that there's zoning its

statutory predominantly in Iowa and we

have an ability to agree to certain

zoning conditions with the property

owner those generally are related to as

zoning to the use of the property as

opposed to particular conditions of the

property in those conditions generally

as your community development directors

indicating our address through different

codes perhaps I mean one of one of the

things that council has done in the past

is to continue the hearing continue the

item generally visit with the owner

about certain commitments and and what

what they're going to do prior to

council going ahead and potentially

exacerbating a situation like for

example you might have here if the

property becomes commercial and and

you've got some multi flexes that could

create other problems but we'd be we

have to be very careful in terms of

using zoning as a hammer for property

can

conditions as opposed to uses if it's

it's a route that I think we can

successfully navigate or at least have

in the past but I don't think I can make

I don't think I can give you a broad

statement that that's fine to tie

whatever incentives to the zoning yeah

and the use the the use piece which is

appropriate pers owning and that the

question there is if our general goal I

mean these are two units that have I

mean there are five five flex is it

right or they say sex and I think I mean

I five so that that's a use question two

to some degree and what is that existing

kitchen space is building what is that

it building next to it I think it's a

34k to eyes front

you can go restauranteurs no okay shared

kitchen stress isn't it yeah that's

partly um what she said is right

it's it's a well you'll hear about it

every months but it's a building that

has four kitchens in it that people can

rent by the hour then in the front part

will be a kind of a kitchen cafe that

people can rent as a kitchen or rent it

as a cafe where they can sell food from

there so will be open to the public

yeah the puzzle where's the parking up

for that that's that's why it went so

sorry

yeah answering your question yeah

excellent yeah I mean

I thought it was for the apartments but

that's in theory what it is because it's

tied to the apartments right now but in

reality it's I'm so easy to survey for

that that kitchen space is worth asking

tennis builders there so is it for the

tenants where's the further kitchen

space that's for both it's a mixed use

that's why it ok because the NPC is for

the kitchen spaces building but the

other two are residential so by making

them all commercial they'll can share

the same ok maybe I just didn't read it

correctly because I think what's the use

directly south of this of the edge of

your property

it's a dip it's a duplex you mean on the

south side of the kitchen space is Donen

yeah that's a duplex that's mid block

there's not a street and that's also is

that also one of your properties yeah

not by inclination I guess is to

continue this and to have conversations

about

to see what we can do on on the full

range of properties around here and so I

don't I don't know if we need more than

two more than a council meeting or I

don't know who we refer to I mean you

want that staff at the NP and Z or what

do you think it I mean I think it can

probably just be done with staff right I

don't I don't know that it needs to go

back to PNC okay so we refer to staff

come back what do you think and next

meeting or two meetings from now what do

you think I may would ask that well I'm

concerned I could and we can discuss

this more but is parking the

appropriateness of the additional

parking part of that question except

that would be trafficking as well to to

understand our parking situation

yeah I mean throw what else has to go

through a traffic study don't they when

they open up a business yeah okay I just

didn't I didn't read it that we were

giving additional parking to a

commercial building I just didn't see it

anywhere in there I mean up that's in I

mean just service perhaps continuing

continuing to the next meeting with

councils understanding that that may be

very that's okay and again might have to

continue it again and continue as

appropriate or yeah I'm just gonna try

to get it resolved as quickly as

possible and if I can do and with our

eye to continue this councilman until

next meeting and let's sit here you get

it done and then we'll get in touch with

you if there's a hang-up somewhere along

seven yes it's existing alright it takes

us to item 54 item that pours on a

proposed Drake urban renewal plan

receiving in filing the determination of

the Des Moines Planning and Zoning

Commission and adopting the urban

renewal plan council communication

number 19 - double O six as a

recommendation of the Planning and

Zoning Commission B is the resolution of

necessity for Drake urban renewal plan

and C is the first consideration the

ordinance designating the area as a TIF

district the only comment I will make is

this was some very extensive reading

over the weekend but some good history

involved also it's really a detailed

plan so any rate let's open it up is

there anybody here to speak to this plan

anybody seeing none let's I'm happy to

move item 54 a B and C and C now not do

we need a couple more readings can we

waive those and I'll move to waive the

second and third reading as well I agree

with Josh this is a great opportunity we

have a lot of synergy working down there

right now it's good to see that we're

moving forward with rejuvenating that

area it's I can see a lot of positive

things happening so supported entirely

Josh and I've been working together in

that Drake area for a year now I love it

keep it up synergy

synergy they've done shelling from our

mayor so yeah they teach you that a mere

code on the proposed connection fee

ordinance for the little four mile trunk

sewer benefited District Council

communication number 19 - double O 1a is

the first consideration the ordinance

above will open the hearing anybody here

to speak to come on up give us your name

and address and give us your import

please Jeff Klinenberg 29 17 northeast

56 this has a clarification questions I

guess this cost is connected to connect

to the sewer if we do that our we fund

voluntarily enacting to Des Moines when

we connect to the sewer if they are

adjacent yes if you're armed if you in

your back yard would be adjacent right

the the ordinance provides that you

would waive any objection to annexation

so it's off to go through the normal

process but you would not be allowed to

objected to the anything okay

these I thought the three and a half

percent interest rate appliance - what

if I wait 10 years to connect does that

interest accruing and then it cost us

that much higher then so that $4,000

have changes in the ordinance does

escalate - okay it's loose its 4,000

something Creek your family cares that

paraded there are some accommodations

for smaller properties I'm not exactly

from there with the formula on that that

we

okay so you're thinking it probably is

prorated partially for it I don't know

how the home you'll break families up

two times anyone know and staff where I

know there's exceptions Brooks

exceptionally smaller parcels but I

think in your case you would want to

expect go later

right this way it's yet like point a to

thinking that might be charged the full

acre that I might be I don't know that

they could come up

do we know but I think this is detail

that we're guessing at idea I'd like I'm

sure what I'm I need I'm queasy about

moving this one without any move on if I

saw my home at five years we'll the

buyer or me as a seller be forced to

connect at that point say again if you'd

be Celsius property in the next five

years or would when it'd be forced

either upon sale or the new one to

connect to it at that time no it would

still be the existing owners choice

what cash the next owner without that

choice okay finally it appears that at

least for one point seven acres involved

there's only about a three to four dozen

existing houses so it's being done for a

new development open up those open areas

obviously as he developments grow and

seem to become part of Des Moines

if I become surrounded by the moines

property then will I be involuntarily

annexed so that would take a vote that

would take a vote of the communities

understand that this project is also an

opportunity for existing homes like

yourself to connect on by choice

so we oftentimes do have property owners

that their septic tanks yeah sewers fail

and and so this is a benefit not only

for new construction but also for the

existing at that point right that's all

the hell thank you

all right do you need answers to that

you feel before you would access to the

prorated part well the whole concept of

the connection in the fee I think there

- I think I get it yeah I didn't you get

it okay you're good

next speaker you just answered my

question I live I'm Larry Zimmer 29 18

or theast 56 I'm his next door neighbor

having spent an obscene amount of money

and repair and updating mine what kind

of repercussions am I going to have but

if I do not want to connect because as

far as I know I'm up to date within the

last three years I don't know the depth

of my laterals but just two feet guess

what happened two years ago when the

frost went down four feet it froze up so

all I'm asking is if I do not connect

what kind of repercussions am I gonna

get into I'm not aware of any the idea

the idea is if you choose to connect

here's what happens okay so I can choose

not to as long write it like this

that's all I want to know fucking

facility Thank You Larry

all right see no one else counsel and he

comments I wouldn't move item 55 m55 a

and 55 a any waves

seven yes

at in 56 on the lower oak and Highland

Park sewer separation phase three

resolution proving the plans

specifications form of contract

documents engineer assessment and

designating the lowest responsible

bidder as J&K contracting LLC Jeremy

Feldman president and Bill I know you'll

appreciate the number four million seven

hundred and forty seven thousand four

hundred and seventy four dollars and

seventy four cents

Council communication number 19-0 one

set six of a is approving the contract

in the bond and permission to sublet

let's go ahead and open it up and see if

there's anyone here to speak to this

item

all right seeing none

shoes comment anybody Bill's got his cup

I was over 74 cents one item 56 and 56 a

and mr. Mary you're right I think what

he has set a new standard here not only

did we not round off not only we just

round off the dimes

we have pennies in here now 4.7 million

dollars and you have to have 74 extra

cents here's a cap let's help them out

you sort of like the way the flow work

with the numbers didn't yet I like it

because it's for 47 47 or that's I liked

enough 47 through the rule at 77 yeah 47

7 yes start yeah four million all right

item 57 on the four-mile Community

Center window replacement proving the

plans specifications form of contract

documents engineer's estimate

designating the lowest responsible

bidder is JPG Company LLC Jared Geiss

president sixty eight thousand nine

hundred dollars council communication

number nineteen dash zero one four days

of proving the contract and bond and

permission to sublet item 57 let's go

ahead and open it up is there anybody

here to speak to this item window

replacement at the four-mile community

center seeing none I will move item 57

and 57

seven yes item 58 on the police academy

window replacements resolution proven

plans specifications form of contract

documents engineer's estimate

designating the lowest responsible

bidder is mid-american glazing systems

inc Daniel D Madden president

eighty-seven thousand seven hundred

counts communication number nineteen

density

0:08 a is approving the contract and the

bond let's go ahead and open up and see

if anybody is here that would like to

make comment on the windows at the

police academy

I see no mr. Merrill above fifty eight

and fifty eight a seven yes mr. manager

these window replacements damage or

these failing windows aged and failing

age okay

it's been there a while now 59 on the

principal Park Cub Club reroofing

resolution improving the plans

specifications form of contract

documents engineers estimate and

designating the lowest responsible

bidder as rubber roofing systems inc

david AKC president ninety four thousand

four hundred dollars council

communication number 19 - zero zero nine

a is approving the contract in the bond

let's go ahead and open it up see if

there's anybody here to come in on this

is my gardener here a say none on date

59 59 a

good company a roofing system 7 yes they

do good job this is it 2016 on the

University Avenue improvements from 55th

Street to 63rd Street resolution

approving the plans specifications form

of contract documents engineers estimate

and designating the lowest responsible

bidder as TK concrete Inc Tony Jay

premier president of seven hundred and

sixty-five thousand four hundred and

eight dollars and thirty cents council

communication number 19 - zero one eight

a is approving the contract and bond and

permission to sublet let's go ahead and

open the hearing on this item anybody

here to speak regarding the University

Avenue improvements seeing none council

I'd move item 68 just wanna give a shout

out to engineering they did a great job

with community meetings an open house

people were allowed to give input talk

about it express their concerns I think

they did a great job a lot of times the

engineering gets pulled in the

crosshairs at this time I was really

proud of it it really worked great and I

need $0.30 guys can help me out bill I

appreciate the project I'm not I'm not

keen on the one who's doing the work and

so I will be a no vote here but I was

gonna ask Miss Mary you appreciate the

project and and all the work that's

being done over there and I'll use this

opportunity to talk about the synergy

and University a you know this is

hopefully something that is part of a

larger change in the way University is

going to be working and then it next few

years and that will include connecting

with our neighbors West as well as

thinking about how how it goes to the

east in our our friends in the Drake

neighborhood and Drake University as

well and so I I look forward to seeing

everything that's going to be happening

along that corridor in the in the coming

years we've been putting a good chunk of

work in and I think we're gonna start

seeing results and I look forward to

that and this is one piece of that it's

gonna be exciting time to be on

University I move sixty and sixty a

success one note

alright let's note that it's 6:03 and we

end our hearings it takes us back to

item 44 item 44 is from Milton Sud Brock

of 3021 Dean Avenue to speak regarding

having police escort for the bait toy

run in October actually a my name is

Scott sang Bush and I've been designated

to speak for such Scout sang Bush I'm at

3614 47th Street Des Moines

okay number Coleman yeah please are you

thank you

all right to receiving file mr. :

yes is there one copy all in favor say

aye

yes I wait we might be short one we're

we're all wait one I'll make sure that

everybody gets Moses here so 101 you

take what somebody move it Josh smile

cheer yep and we know also that one of

each we're neighbors

Scott I live on 40

a shot Thank You mayor councilmembers

thank you for your attention for those

of you don't know if eight is Iowa State

motorcycle rights organization of

brotherhood aimed toward education for

the past 35 years of eight of Iowa

district four has hosted an annual toy

run parade this is an event that many

look forward to participating in and

many more have come to depend on and

Pope warned in Dallas counties those who

depend on our parade our various

agencies that provide shelter and

services to women children and families

under a variety of circumstances these

agencies have budgets they must operate

under and extras like toys gifts and

clothing for the children for Christmas

has to fall to donations by the public

debate of Iowa District four has stepped

up for 35 years to help provide for

these children and families many aspects

of the toy on parade have changed over

the years

but the one thing that remains constant

is our desire to continue in the role of

helping make Christmas happier for the

underprivileged children within our

district we will be hosting our 36th

annual toy run parade October 13th 2019

once again starting from the State

Capitol Complex parking lot 15 each year

as we plan a parade of motorcyclists who

ride in transport donated toys to a

pre-planned ending dust desert of

destination excuse me for that parade we

must plan a route and each year we have

been assisted by the City of Des Moines

police traffic control unit and

confirming streets we want to use will

not be under construction and that

off-duty officers provide escort and

traffic control for the parade we pay a

minimum of two hours of wages for each

officer at a rate of one and a half

times their normal hourly wage while we

are deeply grateful for the safe they

provide our riders that they provide our

riders that are traveling for the cause

the cost associated with this aspect of

our annual event can negatively have

depending on our circumstances in a

given year

it can also dictate where we ride and

the distance if sponsorship of the event

falls short of the expenses or if there

are bad weather year that impacts

participation which results in less

merchandise sales that help to offset

expenses we can actually lose money in

our attempt to aid those less fortunate

so we are asking if it would be possible

for the City of Des Moines to possibly

consider some sort of credit beyond the

standard street use permit cost or even

look to incorporate into the city budget

an allowance of some sort to decrease or

completely offset the expense abate of

Iowa district 4 pays for the police

services for this event in earlier years

we saw a credit in the amount of $1000

applied against the cost of police

services but that ceased in 2012 it was

then replaced with a credit equal to the

cost of the street use permit now $250

when considering our request please keep

in mind this information of which I have

handed you we partnered with five

agencies in the tri-county area in our

district folk warned in Dallas gift

cards bicycles batteries and 60 to 70

boxes of toys games puzzles books

clothing etc valued at approximately

thirteen thousand and fifteen thousand

dollars are divided and dispersed to

these agencies each year through the

generosity of our parade event

participants past year's parade expenses

KY Bo's ninety to one hundred dollars as

required to be provided at the Capitol

Complex each year for parade

starting-point Street use permit

application fees two hundred to two

hundred fifty dollars per year escort

the traffic control by local police

both des moines and other joining cities

have ranged from 900 to $2,200 per year

depending on the route taken for the

parades

personnel needed to provide the escorts

and traffic controls this has long been

there's a long been a labor of love it

always will be

we are only inviting you to be a part of

this labor any questions that I might be

able to sir

thanks for coming down anybody have any

questions for Scott I think that yep we

probably want to receive and file your

comments and this module must receive a

file to you to take a look not only at

this but some of the others and let's

talk about what we do and how we do it

and what impacts there might be moving

forward and certainly we always salute

everybody that's doing good things for

our or our city and our citizens so okay

well folks again thank you for your

attention

thank you thank you ride safely

anybody have a want to say that's her

motion I'll move as the mayor outlined

seven yes all right item 45 is an

authorization to proceed with

acquisition of necessary property

interests for the Grayslake Park

expansion project council communication

number 19-7

let's go ahead and open it up

I'll move item 45 seeing no one the

items been moved sorry seven yes all

right let's move to 46 these are items

regarding proposed agreement for

transcription services council

communication number 19 - - below for a

civilian reduction in force of the Des

Moines police department and be a

three-year contract with three

successive one-year renewal options with

net transcripts Inc Susan summer CEO to

provide transcription services of police

audio records there were five proposals

received that's anybody have any

comments on this one chief

um the salamu 46 a nd

seven yes I'm 47 agreement for sharing

of gaming revenue with Polk County and

Prairie Meadows council communication

number 19 - 0 to 5 anybody to talk to

this item the mayor and I were at their

30th celebration Scott was there -

actually there's a good story there

don't know if we had a shorter meeting I

tell you it's God still trying to figure

out what happened yeah yeah they had a

guest that was on America's Got Talent

the what were their names Skylar vines

the clairvoyance in fact they're on this

week for their Champions reunion thing

and they brought Scott on stage and read

his mind he was thinking gosh I can't

believe Coleman in the mayor here yeah

well it'll make for an interesting

personnel review this year and now that

we know what he's really thinking the

the prairie meadows agreement has been

an amazing benefit to the city we give

up a lot you know I think the mayor and

I were the only ones around when we had

serious interest from people from 63rd

and highway five to property that we

talked about today on the northeast side

of Des Moines with interest of a casino

and we gave up that to essentially go

into a partnership with Polk County they

continue to respect that Scott did an

outstanding job representing our

interest this year in that negotiation

but well as you recall even an interest

in putting one on the river and downtown

yes yes nope nobody like that except for

me

[Laughter]

so maybe Scott thank you very much for

representing us I'll move the agreement

this creates an amazing revenue stream

for us putting it into streets and roads

and bridges fantastic agreement did work

good job I just got mayor thank you

they're seven yes all right

everybody unless there's something else

that somebody wants to bring up we're

moving forward in the new year and mr.

manager did you

you can adjourn I was just going to

explain something we can adjourn all

right some of us are going to go home

and Scott's gonna stay here thank you

all for attending yep

council they know we're adjourned thank

you sir the handouts are the same as the

public will receive tomorrow at the

finance and budget should we do that

those between the budget

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