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get started but prior to our beginning

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we're gonna have a special work from our

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own councilmember bill great bill do you

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want to stand up or stand up alright

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everybody stand up with us at this time

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we'd appreciate it as we gather here

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today we pray that we are ever mindful

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of opportunities to provide service to

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our fellow citizens and to our community

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always in keeping mind the enduring

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values of life and that things with

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future generations can build let us

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continue to strive to make a better city

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state county country and world we're

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thankful for this day that you have

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given us for its blessings its

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opportunities and its challenges we pray

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for strength and guidance for each day

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as it comes for each day's tasks for

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each day's problems

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may we be challenged to give our best

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always and may we be assured of your

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presence with us amen

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let's call the meeting to order and I'll

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ask the clerk to please take role County

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here Coleman here Posen

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here gray here Westergaard here

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Mandelbaum yeah Gatto here we have a

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quorum all right our first item on the

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agenda tonight is approving a

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recommendation by myself for appointment

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for Mayor Pro Tem for the calendar year

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of 2019

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I want to thank council member Coleman

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for his services Mayor Pro Tem and he

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did an excellent job this year I am my

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recommendation for appointment to Mayor

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Pro Tem is our senior Ward council

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person mr. bill gray Ward one so on and

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do we need to have a move on that one as

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my final action as the reigning Mayor

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Pro Tem I wholeheartedly move the

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mayor's recommendations bill you're a

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good leader for our town if everybody

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would assume I can vote on this Thank

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You yourself well unless you don't have

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confidence in the seven yes okay our

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second item is approving the agenda as

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presented and/or as amended and I will

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quickly say that item for a council

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member Coleman votes no 4l council

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member Coleman votes no for M council

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member kulmann votes no item eight

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council member Coleman wishes to speak

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item 15 councilmember Gray wishes to

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speak in item 27 councilmember gray

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boats no not that and where's my

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okay in addition to that there are no

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changes this evening

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I'll move item two all right all in

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favor say aye aye opposed item passes

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the other next item is approving the

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consent agenda those tonight are items 3

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through 41 these are routine items that

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are generally enacted by one roll call

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votes without separate discussion unless

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someone a council or public request

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items be removed for additional

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consideration or clarification the items

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that I noted before have been asked to

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be spoken item eight in item 15 are

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there any others anybody has this

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evening these are items again 3 through

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41 asking if anybody has any items in

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that group that they'd like to have

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polled for further consideration

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I see now mr. mayor we'll move item 3

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don't get up and ask everybody voting in

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progress any comments and none 7 yes all

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right

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that takes us to item 8 item 8 is a

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public improvement approving the

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professional services agreement with

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Kirkham Michael and Associates Inc for

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the ingersoll Avenue streetscape phase 1

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Martin Luther King Parkway to 31st

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Street not to exceed five hundred and

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twenty-five thousand dollars council

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communication number nineteen dash zero

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one five mr. Coleman thank you I've been

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lucky to vote on the ingersoll

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streetscape improvements and I think

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it's done an amazing job over there

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tonight we're really talking about the

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the architectural work

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I I'm not quite sure there's a whole lot

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I can do about it but Scott and Jeff in

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particular I would just like to see us

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find a way to streamline this it's my

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understanding as I look at the designs

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which the blue letter rightfully points

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out that we've done most of the design

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work we've done the conceptual stuff

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we've there's pictures of it in there

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but even with all that and the fact that

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we've done something identical on many

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blocks already in the corridor we're

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spending another five hundred and

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twenty-five thousand dollars to design

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the next section and I have voiced this

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not just about Ingersoll but many other

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places I just think it's in the best

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interest of our taxpayers to streamline

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the conceptual designs that we might

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spend for streetscape there might be

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little tweaks we can do to make it

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unique around the community but you know

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this is gonna we're gonna have millions

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of dollars on the Ingersoll streetscape

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in just architectural fees and it seems

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to me that it's just not that

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complicated especially when we're

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replicating what we've done for blocks

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the rest of the way so that's that's my

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primary frustration and concern it it

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just seems repetitive and a bad use of

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money and I wish we would have written

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the specs to kind of build off of what

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was done already I mean the blue letter

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includes the design stuff I'm not really

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quite sure what it is that we're getting

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for the next five hundred thousand

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dollars its manager would you want to

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touch on that yeah I can answer to some

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of that and pull up staff as well as as

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they come up there are some elements of

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the design that are different with

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bump-outs in particular which you don't

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often see in some other portions but a

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lot of times that design has to be

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specific to the site with the other

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utilities the

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right away constraints that are that are

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specific to the segments that we're

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looking at now that doesn't account

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obviously for the full amount but you

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can't just simply say I want the same

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thing as what's on this block or that

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block and not still have to design it

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out for what the actual construction

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specs would require to build that's a

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good segue to it let's Steve thank you

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honorable mayor members of City Council

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Steve neighbor city engineer basically

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the the drawing that you included that I

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included in the council communication is

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a a concept not to read it but it's

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basically a pretty drawing it's just a

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surface drawing what would this what

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this engineering services contract

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includes is actually that detailed

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design the sake of actually putting

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elevations to those curves actual

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dimensions designing the stormwater

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drainage so that you can actually when

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you add these bump outs and change the

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curb lines you can make them drain

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that's designing the actual

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reconstruction of the roadway photo

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metrics for lighting it's it's it's the

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actual detailed design so all that's

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been done to date to be honest this is a

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conceptual estimate of what the

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geometrics could look like so and then

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they also put the contract

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specifications bid items they calculate

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all the quantities that that the

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contractors use to develop their bids

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and so none of that work has been done

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this actually is for just for phase one

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- is it comes communication States is

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this not about the ten to twelve percent

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or even potentially less of the total

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project cost if we may so if we're

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looking at that's right but yeah it's

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it's because yeah the total project cost

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is sixteen million we're probably

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looking at about two and a half out two

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and a quarter if I remember the total

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four for fees

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so are we going to be able to take this

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and use it in other sections are we

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gonna every time we do a streetscape

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project we're we're we working out this

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kind we can take concepts and apply it

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out elsewhere but in terms of like

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actual elevations and how drainage works

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that it never yeah you cannot take it

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anywhere else you you at all you would

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need to detail out you know the grades

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are different the utilities are

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different in each location

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so but in terms of like a concept or a

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principle you could take that elsewhere

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but but but a specific design you

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typically never use elsewhere and I

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think one of the other things that has

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happened is we've looked at different

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sections of town there's certain

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infrastructure pieces that are

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underground that are going to be

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affected as you mentioned the water in

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the intakes and what are part of which

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it was put in place over 150 years ago

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and so we've got to you know deal with

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that and you've got to have some pretty

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expert opinions I think in a lot of

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those cases especially coming down

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Ingersoll and that area that has some

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older infrastructure that that really

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needs to be addressed and the other

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thing with Street scapes again it comes

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back a lot of its televisions when we're

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working with the Americans with

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Disabilities Act design guidelines your

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sidewalks are there's requirements on

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those sidewalks slopes and that not only

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at the intersection ramps and corners

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themselves at driveways and even the

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cross slope itself when you're changing

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that curb line those can be quite be

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quite cumbersome I used to be the

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streetscape diet at my previous firm and

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have rebuilt all of downtown DeKalb's

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eyen Glenview a number of communities

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and and that was always a very

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challenging Elizabeth it was detailing

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out what those elevations could be any

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other questions those are good points I

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get a second question I felt this is

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about funding I I felt like the

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statement there I just want to make sure

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I'm not reading too much into it it it

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said that with the current increment it

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was fully funded

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that's God I'm kind of looking to you

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can you get infirmed at and just when

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when is that is that development that's

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already happened or does that include an

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anticipated development yes so I can

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clarify that the existing growth along

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Ingersoll in valuation is sufficient to

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pay debt service on the full project and

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so there's excess capacity within the

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TIF from a valuation standpoint it would

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still take borrowing to get it done but

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it can be done through the the TIF

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growth that's already occurred to this

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point and that's each of the that's each

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of the phases in total in totality so

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the district as a whole there's I

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haven't done the analysis of

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block-by-block what growth is a clear

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yeah but but the four phases I think

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it's yes yes so you're saying the

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increment is there with the growth has

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already occurred correct tomorrow

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against the whole project

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understanding that the motivation to do

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this project is there are still a lot of

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parcels along Ingersoll that have the

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opportunity to expand further so there's

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that opportunity to development to

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recoup the cost even further yet with

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future growth and that's that's a key

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point that differs from some other TIF

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opportunities and streetscapes alright

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other questions I'm happy to move item

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eight appreciate the discussion seven

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yes I taste item 15 land property

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transactions of a authorization to

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proceed with acquisition the necessary

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property interests for the Merle hay

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road and Hickman intersection

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improvements project council

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communication number 19 - zero-one-zero

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husband gray Thank You mayor this is

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gonna go back to ancient history but

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five years ago when I first got on the

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City Council the first thing that I

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brought forward to rick clark the city

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manager was i want to take a look at

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redoing the corner of Merle hay and

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Hickman five years later what have we

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got this this is really you know if you

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if you look at what the intent of this

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is it says right here the goals of these

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improvements are to entreat increase the

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traffic capacity and improve the safety

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of the intersection at Merle hay road

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and hip let me tell you what we have

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there we have probably the worst

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intersection in the entire city of des

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moines a five-way intersection this

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doesn't make any sense and this is the

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gate Western gateway for people coming

0:14:35.710,0:14:40.150
in to visit des moines I won't go into

0:14:37.720,0:14:42.310
signage because Windsor Heights has a

0:14:40.150,0:14:43.300
nice monument sign identifying their

0:14:42.310,0:14:45.910
territory

0:14:43.300,0:14:47.980
bourbon Dale has a nice sign identifying

0:14:45.910,0:14:49.450
their territory and if it weren't for

0:14:47.980,0:14:50.560
the Merle hay neighborhood posting a

0:14:49.450,0:14:52.510
sign you wouldn't even know you're in

0:14:50.560,0:14:56.140
Des Moines but that's another issue that

0:14:52.510,0:14:56.920
we can go at but this you know if you

0:14:56.140,0:15:00.250
look at this inner

0:14:56.920,0:15:03.240
section there's only one corner that is

0:15:00.250,0:15:07.120
turning lights people are piled up there

0:15:03.240,0:15:08.470
we have a letter from Jason poem Merle

0:15:07.120,0:15:11.170
hay Neighborhood Association president

0:15:08.470,0:15:13.240
one of his big concerns in the Myrtle in

0:15:11.170,0:15:15.610
the whole neighborhood association is

0:15:13.240,0:15:19.149
the fact that westbound traffic on

0:15:15.610,0:15:21.550
Hickman has no no left-hand turn lane at

0:15:19.149,0:15:24.300
all and again it comes back to this

0:15:21.550,0:15:27.010
eminent domain and what we need to do

0:15:24.300,0:15:29.199
we're already going after three separate

0:15:27.010,0:15:32.769
property owners for four improvements

0:15:29.199,0:15:34.899
but keep in mind now we have some new

0:15:32.769,0:15:37.389
businesses in here they're gonna warrant

0:15:34.899,0:15:40.600
more traffic Ivy's going to be opening

0:15:37.389,0:15:43.720
up one of their fresh and fast stores on

0:15:40.600,0:15:46.990
the northwest corner they're in this

0:15:43.720,0:15:49.870
spring CVS has just invested a lot of

0:15:46.990,0:15:52.420
money on the northeast corner there and

0:15:49.870,0:15:54.820
we have a new housing development up the

0:15:52.420,0:15:58.360
street on rural haein and Franklin I

0:15:54.820,0:16:00.130
keep looking at this and this can has

0:15:58.360,0:16:04.000
been kicked down the road

0:16:00.130,0:16:05.800
way too long we missed when CVS was

0:16:04.000,0:16:07.360
built as we could have taken part of

0:16:05.800,0:16:10.959
that property and put a turn lane in

0:16:07.360,0:16:12.430
which shows not to IVs going to be doing

0:16:10.959,0:16:14.320
some stuff but we're going to put in a

0:16:12.430,0:16:16.690
left-hand two left-hand turning lane

0:16:14.320,0:16:18.640
it's not take into account that crazy

0:16:16.690,0:16:20.860
corner where people can just drive in

0:16:18.640,0:16:24.000
and make a complete turn without having

0:16:20.860,0:16:26.769
to stop this is if this intersection is

0:16:24.000,0:16:28.510
atrociously designed it's not conducive

0:16:26.769,0:16:30.810
to the betterment of the neighborhood

0:16:28.510,0:16:34.810
nor the City of Des Moines

0:16:30.810,0:16:37.810
also that's its state highway highway 28

0:16:34.810,0:16:40.420
roars up through there I did talk to

0:16:37.810,0:16:42.819
engineering at one time about the path

0:16:40.420,0:16:44.980
white why it was this crazy design set

0:16:42.819,0:16:48.220
up and some were in the fifties the

0:16:44.980,0:16:51.010
concept came well we're gonna make Merle

0:16:48.220,0:16:52.899
hay road a six-lane superhighway and

0:16:51.010,0:16:56.649
then we're going to bend all the traffic

0:16:52.899,0:16:58.569
down murkland way which is a one-way to

0:16:56.649,0:17:00.399
head towards a future freeway

0:16:58.569,0:17:03.279
well now that stuffs ever happened and

0:17:00.399,0:17:05.589
Merkel away those poor people that live

0:17:03.279,0:17:07.720
there after coming home from downtown

0:17:05.589,0:17:09.839
they have to drive down probably 55th

0:17:07.720,0:17:11.429
get down to Hickman Road and

0:17:09.839,0:17:14.100
backtrack to get on berkland way so they

0:17:11.429,0:17:18.270
can get to their home this whole corner

0:17:14.100,0:17:20.339
has been a hodgepodge of patches I would

0:17:18.270,0:17:22.140
like to see with the backing of the

0:17:20.339,0:17:24.209
Merle hay Neighborhood Association I

0:17:22.140,0:17:27.240
want to see where we can move forward

0:17:24.209,0:17:28.919
and make this a corner that that the

0:17:27.240,0:17:31.890
city can be proud of is functionally

0:17:28.919,0:17:34.860
good and and meets the needs of the

0:17:31.890,0:17:38.400
neighborhood as well as the city so I

0:17:34.860,0:17:40.919
will move fifteen but added it to the

0:17:38.400,0:17:42.899
stipulation that I want this referred

0:17:40.919,0:17:46.110
back to the city manager and engineering

0:17:42.899,0:17:48.059
we need a target well I was just told it

0:17:46.110,0:17:50.490
cost too much money tell me what it is

0:17:48.059,0:17:51.630
we have got to have a target to go and

0:17:50.490,0:17:52.950
we got to work with the Neighborhood

0:17:51.630,0:17:55.380
Association

0:17:52.950,0:18:03.480
I want this corner fixed before I leave

0:17:55.380,0:18:06.570
this earth so yeah I do too but that's

0:18:03.480,0:18:09.120
my motions all right move fifteen with

0:18:06.570,0:18:10.830
the stipulation that we refer to the

0:18:09.120,0:18:12.539
city management engineering let's get

0:18:10.830,0:18:14.460
design done let's make something that's

0:18:12.539,0:18:16.980
functional it's going to work for our

0:18:14.460,0:18:20.010
city and let's get a price tag on it

0:18:16.980,0:18:21.840
that we can shoot for that moment I'd

0:18:20.010,0:18:23.220
love to see that master plan even if we

0:18:21.840,0:18:24.809
have to walk away from the price tag

0:18:23.220,0:18:27.480
because I think it can be affordable

0:18:24.809,0:18:29.399
I think the five-way intersection has to

0:18:27.480,0:18:32.039
stop you and I have talked about that

0:18:29.399,0:18:37.250
since the day you got a lie that's

0:18:32.039,0:18:37.250
exactly right it is we're fixing so

0:18:37.809,0:18:45.029
that's a persuasive mayor pro-tem over

0:18:40.389,0:18:45.029
there coming out of the blocks fight

0:18:51.149,0:19:04.389
seven yes okay that completes the

0:18:57.789,0:19:07.779
consent agenda and Nexus communications

0:19:04.389,0:19:11.259
reports this one from item 42 from Joe

0:19:07.779,0:19:14.229
grand Annette of 6215 Gordon Avenue to

0:19:11.259,0:19:17.320
speak regarding streets sewers bike

0:19:14.229,0:19:24.940
paths and the one cent sales tax

0:19:17.320,0:19:30.629
Joe mayor and the City Council people

0:19:24.940,0:19:30.629
I'm back both of us

0:19:30.659,0:19:36.710
anything has happened since I was here

0:19:33.570,0:19:39.119
last and talked about the bike pass

0:19:36.710,0:19:40.950
after I had left the last time you voted

0:19:39.119,0:19:42.359
for about over two hundred thousand

0:19:40.950,0:19:45.239
dollars for a bike path on the south

0:19:42.359,0:19:48.960
side and just recently you voted six to

0:19:45.239,0:19:50.999
one for the amount of five hundred and

0:19:48.960,0:19:55.499
fifty two thousand four hundred seventy

0:19:50.999,0:19:59.989
six dollars and seventy seven thousand

0:19:55.499,0:19:59.989
dollars it was over budget

0:20:00.049,0:20:07.619
your billy bike pass at the expense of

0:20:03.539,0:20:14.129
the homeowners they have lost their

0:20:07.619,0:20:16.049
homes due to bad sewers and streets if

0:20:14.129,0:20:19.080
you want to be good stewards of our

0:20:16.049,0:20:22.909
money I would think that you would fix

0:20:19.080,0:20:27.989
the roads and the streets and the sewers

0:20:22.909,0:20:30.779
that are falling in the bike paths is a

0:20:27.989,0:20:34.470
good idea but not at the expense of the

0:20:30.779,0:20:39.989
homeowners who need and equated outdated

0:20:34.470,0:20:44.249
outmoded sewers and how you could vote

0:20:39.989,0:20:45.869
for that I don't understand why and

0:20:44.249,0:20:50.369
that's one of the reasons why I'm back

0:20:45.869,0:20:52.940
here Grand Avenue Ingersoll University

0:20:50.369,0:20:56.970
every major thoroughfare in this town

0:20:52.940,0:21:00.899
needs to be repaved did you have do you

0:20:56.970,0:21:03.899
have a plan for resurfacing them in

0:21:00.899,0:21:07.679
addition to the resurfacing them the

0:21:03.899,0:21:12.409
sewers are outdated and yes you're

0:21:07.679,0:21:16.200
addressing it some this spring but now

0:21:12.409,0:21:19.759
you have less money to do more because

0:21:16.200,0:21:19.759
you're spending it on bike paths

0:21:21.260,0:21:27.960
45 years ago Bill Riley started bike

0:21:24.450,0:21:31.860
paths down at Ashford swimming pool you

0:21:27.960,0:21:34.140
want to get the bike people off the

0:21:31.860,0:21:39.090
streets so they would be safe

0:21:34.140,0:21:45.840
and now we're wanting more bicycles on

0:21:39.090,0:21:47.970
streets and they don't pay their way now

0:21:45.840,0:21:50.760
in Oregon just this last couple last

0:21:47.970,0:21:52.230
year you know you come up you come up

0:21:50.760,0:21:55.350
and complain about things you got to

0:21:52.230,0:21:58.220
have a solution why don't the bike

0:21:55.350,0:22:03.630
people pay the way they should save some

0:21:58.220,0:22:06.480
something in it for them and you bike

0:22:03.630,0:22:10.350
over $200 in Oregon they got to pay $15

0:22:06.480,0:22:14.220
and they're gonna raise 1.2 million

0:22:10.350,0:22:16.470
dollars before he can do that or I can't

0:22:14.220,0:22:17.640
de Moines Iowa I remember when I was a

0:22:16.470,0:22:21.350
little kid we used to go up the fire

0:22:17.640,0:22:24.870
station I don't know how much it was I

0:22:21.350,0:22:26.370
used to get a your little sticker and

0:22:24.870,0:22:28.710
you put it on your bike I don't know if

0:22:26.370,0:22:34.680
it was free or not but everything

0:22:28.710,0:22:36.630
everybody was accounted for so bike

0:22:34.680,0:22:40.820
paths are a good idea but not when you

0:22:36.630,0:22:43.290
have other other things that need that

0:22:40.820,0:22:46.800
are really needed for these poor

0:22:43.290,0:22:49.710
homeowners that have had their houses

0:22:46.800,0:22:51.210
ruined because of this and the people

0:22:49.710,0:22:53.940
that go back and forth to work every day

0:22:51.210,0:22:57.750
because we pay higher property taxes in

0:22:53.940,0:22:59.660
the City of Des Moines then all the rest

0:22:57.750,0:23:02.610
of the suburbs

0:22:59.660,0:23:05.370
so our Road should be more pristine than

0:23:02.610,0:23:08.400
the suburbs since we're getting more

0:23:05.370,0:23:10.830
money from the homeowners but our roads

0:23:08.400,0:23:14.280
are less now as I understand you're

0:23:10.830,0:23:16.200
fixing floor drive did you concede to 11

0:23:14.280,0:23:17.730
feet or 12 feet I left I don't know if

0:23:16.200,0:23:20.040
the lanes are gonna be loving feet or

0:23:17.730,0:23:22.140
twelve feet but fluor drive is going to

0:23:20.040,0:23:25.520
be fixed and it is bad I will tell you

0:23:22.140,0:23:25.520
and now you're going to fix it

0:23:26.520,0:23:34.200
and also I went up to I talked about the

0:23:31.320,0:23:35.730
bike situation at East Village I talked

0:23:34.200,0:23:37.650
to several the people up there I do know

0:23:35.730,0:23:39.210
a lot of the owners up there they

0:23:37.650,0:23:41.580
appreciate the fact that I went there

0:23:39.210,0:23:45.510
and talked but there's also a problem

0:23:41.580,0:23:47.370
now with they put in a steel post with a

0:23:45.510,0:23:49.050
little sign going one way it's not very

0:23:47.370,0:23:51.960
forgiving if you have a truck and if you

0:23:49.050,0:23:54.809
have and if you have businesses coming

0:23:51.960,0:23:58.110
in there with big semis beer trucks pop

0:23:54.809,0:24:00.420
trucks in the amp service there's not

0:23:58.110,0:24:02.400
enough room for the truck driver to get

0:24:00.420,0:24:03.870
through or get by because they have to

0:24:02.400,0:24:06.330
stick out because now they have a sign

0:24:03.870,0:24:08.100
there that you can't move over and also

0:24:06.330,0:24:10.590
all the pylons that you have on the east

0:24:08.100,0:24:12.540
side they're all pushed down and pushed

0:24:10.590,0:24:15.420
over I thought we had a person that

0:24:12.540,0:24:18.570
manages the bike thing now isn't that

0:24:15.420,0:24:20.340
his job to make sure that it is that it

0:24:18.570,0:24:27.320
looks good because I think it looks

0:24:20.340,0:24:29.280
pretty bad so is that my time okay I

0:24:27.320,0:24:32.010
didn't get to talk about other things

0:24:29.280,0:24:32.580
but I will be back thank you for your

0:24:32.010,0:24:34.980
time

0:24:32.580,0:24:37.710
I hope you taken considerations when you

0:24:34.980,0:24:40.290
make decisions on behalf of the people

0:24:37.710,0:24:41.720
that you represent that you're good

0:24:40.290,0:24:45.570
stewards of our money

0:24:41.720,0:24:48.710
that's what City Council people do thank

0:24:45.570,0:24:48.710
you thank you Joe

0:24:48.910,0:24:57.980
all right thank you Joe it's 4:58 let's

0:24:53.390,0:25:01.160
hear from Alex hoops of 2330 University

0:24:57.980,0:25:12.740
Avenue to speak regarding predatory

0:25:01.160,0:25:14.570
towing witnesses slide yep I do make a

0:25:12.740,0:25:15.530
quick motion to receive him file mr.

0:25:14.570,0:25:18.020
Graetz

0:25:15.530,0:25:29.690
comments I'll make that motion they

0:25:18.020,0:25:32.720
receive a file mr. and Annette's having

0:25:29.690,0:25:35.720
passes thank you okay

0:25:32.720,0:25:37.490
all right we have some more stuff for

0:25:35.720,0:25:39.110
receiving file yeah I'll move to receive

0:25:37.490,0:25:41.659
and file his documents he has another

0:25:39.110,0:25:45.080
power thank you you know all in favor

0:25:41.659,0:25:47.570
say aye aye aye aye Bose and business

0:25:45.080,0:25:48.530
all right now it's your up yeah Thank

0:25:47.570,0:25:49.789
You mr. mayor thank you

0:25:48.530,0:25:52.010
members of the City Council for the

0:25:49.789,0:25:54.440
opportunity to speak here today I'm

0:25:52.010,0:25:57.950
gonna work in good faith to get through

0:25:54.440,0:26:00.440
all this in in my five minutes so I'm

0:25:57.950,0:26:02.480
here today to talk about the issue of

0:26:00.440,0:26:05.630
predatory towing I want to start by just

0:26:02.480,0:26:08.510
orienting you to the current ordinances

0:26:05.630,0:26:12.080
that deal with the removal of vehicles

0:26:08.510,0:26:14.809
from private property in a nutshell the

0:26:12.080,0:26:15.830
ordinances today say that any vehicle

0:26:14.809,0:26:17.299
that is parked on private property

0:26:15.830,0:26:19.490
without the permission of the owner is

0:26:17.299,0:26:22.220
illegally parked and there are two ways

0:26:19.490,0:26:24.190
that a private property owner can handle

0:26:22.220,0:26:28.179
that situation

0:26:24.190,0:26:33.110
one is to all of them flow through

0:26:28.179,0:26:36.919
contacting the police department in

0:26:33.110,0:26:40.630
which case they can offer a citation or

0:26:36.919,0:26:43.429
they can have the vehicle removed and

0:26:40.630,0:26:45.020
impounded but again this all is done

0:26:43.429,0:26:47.270
through the police department the

0:26:45.020,0:26:50.419
Department of Public Works or the

0:26:47.270,0:26:52.299
Department of Community Development so

0:26:50.419,0:26:55.780
that's those are the current ordinances

0:26:52.299,0:26:57.580
in the Municipal Code in

0:26:55.780,0:27:00.909
des Moines that cover the removal of

0:26:57.580,0:27:02.500
vehicles from private property so what

0:27:00.909,0:27:04.390
do I mean when I talk about predatory

0:27:02.500,0:27:07.450
towing there's a lot of different

0:27:04.390,0:27:11.110
aspects to predatory towing I'm going to

0:27:07.450,0:27:13.960
really focus on just two of those

0:27:11.110,0:27:16.350
aspects so when I say predatory towing

0:27:13.960,0:27:20.020
I'm talking about a private

0:27:16.350,0:27:22.000
non-consensual tow that has either of

0:27:20.020,0:27:23.830
the following aspects either entrapment

0:27:22.000,0:27:26.530
which is concealing the intense to tow

0:27:23.830,0:27:28.679
or price gouging which is charging

0:27:26.530,0:27:32.110
significantly above market rates for

0:27:28.679,0:27:33.990
towing services so I say private in that

0:27:32.110,0:27:37.240
these would be toes that are not

0:27:33.990,0:27:40.990
pursuant to a citation that are not

0:27:37.240,0:27:44.740
ordered by either the police department

0:27:40.990,0:27:47.970
or the Department of Public Works and

0:27:44.740,0:27:47.970
they're and they're fairly common

0:27:48.539,0:27:54.520
obviously I have a personal story that's

0:27:50.710,0:27:57.460
what brings me here today so in December

0:27:54.520,0:27:59.080
of last year I had parked in a

0:27:57.460,0:28:02.260
commercial zone parking lot across the

0:27:59.080,0:28:05.140
street from a restaurant that I was

0:28:02.260,0:28:08.919
going to this parking lot is near Drake

0:28:05.140,0:28:11.230
University and as I pulled in I made

0:28:08.919,0:28:13.299
sure to check the walls check the curb

0:28:11.230,0:28:15.100
cuts look for signage that would

0:28:13.299,0:28:19.690
indicate that this was a parking lot

0:28:15.100,0:28:21.070
that I could not park in and went to the

0:28:19.690,0:28:23.799
establishment I was there for about two

0:28:21.070,0:28:25.900
hours when I came out and my car was

0:28:23.799,0:28:28.600
gone there was a tow truck there that

0:28:25.900,0:28:30.100
was removing another vehicle at the time

0:28:28.600,0:28:34.270
so I went for the tow truck driver and I

0:28:30.100,0:28:35.530
said oh I imagine my car got towed when

0:28:34.270,0:28:37.179
I pulled in I looked for a sign where's

0:28:35.530,0:28:38.559
the sign I don't see any sign that would

0:28:37.179,0:28:40.750
say this is not a place that I can park

0:28:38.559,0:28:42.309
and he gestured to the corner there so

0:28:40.750,0:28:44.260
just to orient you to the photos on the

0:28:42.309,0:28:46.809
screen what you're looking at is the

0:28:44.260,0:28:47.919
wall adjacent to the parking lot and the

0:28:46.809,0:28:49.120
big photo on the right you can see

0:28:47.919,0:28:52.240
there's kind of two parts to the wall

0:28:49.120,0:28:54.370
large and short bottom laughs we start

0:28:52.240,0:28:55.600
to zoom in a little bit more and you can

0:28:54.370,0:28:58.030
still see those two parts of the wall

0:28:55.600,0:29:00.730
and the top left you can see the sign

0:28:58.030,0:29:03.250
that the tow truck driver had referenced

0:29:00.730,0:29:06.159
that says towed vehicles can be redeemed

0:29:03.250,0:29:07.539
at such-and-such location so on that

0:29:06.159,0:29:09.149
entire wall the sign that they chose

0:29:07.539,0:29:15.570
supposed was that one the fair

0:29:09.149,0:29:19.320
for bottom right hand corner of that

0:29:15.570,0:29:20.879
fairly large wall so I went to the lot

0:29:19.320,0:29:22.139
the next morning I had a friend drive me

0:29:20.879,0:29:24.779
home that night my wife and my wife

0:29:22.139,0:29:26.339
brought me there the next day and I

0:29:24.779,0:29:30.200
challenged the owner and I said you know

0:29:26.339,0:29:33.330
I'm not sure that this is a very

0:29:30.200,0:29:34.589
upstanding way to conduct business they

0:29:33.330,0:29:36.299
basically gave me two choices you said

0:29:34.589,0:29:38.429
you can either pay to get your car back

0:29:36.299,0:29:39.419
today and take me to court feel like

0:29:38.429,0:29:41.969
you've been wronged to get your money

0:29:39.419,0:29:43.830
back or you can leave and if you don't

0:29:41.969,0:29:46.879
want to do either of those things I will

0:29:43.830,0:29:48.629
call the cops on you for trespassing

0:29:46.879,0:29:51.210
while I was standing there and had the

0:29:48.629,0:29:53.070
opportunity to see three other people

0:29:51.210,0:29:55.259
that were in front of me in line deal

0:29:53.070,0:29:56.639
with this same owner and it seemed like

0:29:55.259,0:30:01.289
they were in situations that were fairly

0:29:56.639,0:30:05.759
similar to the one that I was in towing

0:30:01.289,0:30:07.019
under maybe suspect conditions but what

0:30:05.759,0:30:09.169
was different about their interactions

0:30:07.019,0:30:11.940
was you know I was talking about

0:30:09.169,0:30:14.129
ordinances and statutes and an in due

0:30:11.940,0:30:16.049
process and the people in front of you

0:30:14.129,0:30:17.580
were talking about how they had to call

0:30:16.049,0:30:20.009
in to miss their shift that day because

0:30:17.580,0:30:21.239
they didn't have their car or how they

0:30:20.009,0:30:24.149
did not have the money to get their car

0:30:21.239,0:30:25.919
out that day so unfortunately I have a

0:30:24.149,0:30:27.479
salaried position it was fairly easy for

0:30:25.919,0:30:29.820
me to just say hey boss me to be in a

0:30:27.479,0:30:32.759
couple hours late while I get my car the

0:30:29.820,0:30:35.509
fee I had to pay was you know more of a

0:30:32.759,0:30:37.409
nuisance than a financial hardship

0:30:35.509,0:30:40.679
clearly not the case for everybody that

0:30:37.409,0:30:42.929
was there that day so I could very

0:30:40.679,0:30:46.589
easily take them to small claims courts

0:30:42.929,0:30:48.239
try to try to get my money back that

0:30:46.589,0:30:49.440
would solve my problem but this is

0:30:48.239,0:30:53.429
something that happens

0:30:49.440,0:30:55.080
dozens of times every day and that would

0:30:53.429,0:30:58.279
go and change the ball I did was was

0:30:55.080,0:30:58.279
taking the small plane sports

0:30:58.370,0:31:01.700
I just want to talk to this part

0:30:59.390,0:31:03.020
proposed ordinances so what I think we

0:31:01.700,0:31:05.150
could do to address this there's really

0:31:03.020,0:31:07.730
three things required posted signage and

0:31:05.150,0:31:10.100
lots it's clearly visible limit the fees

0:31:07.730,0:31:11.630
that can be charged and imposed

0:31:10.100,0:31:14.930
penalties on towing companies who

0:31:11.630,0:31:16.310
violate those rules this last slide that

0:31:14.930,0:31:20.000
I'll touch on I looked at what other

0:31:16.310,0:31:22.490
cities in the Midwest do to address this

0:31:20.000,0:31:24.950
situation and it turns out that many of

0:31:22.490,0:31:27.470
them have rules on the books I through

0:31:24.950,0:31:29.660
statute or ordinance that address these

0:31:27.470,0:31:32.690
three issues so there's a lot of

0:31:29.660,0:31:33.950
precedents to look to and they seem to

0:31:32.690,0:31:37.400
have found ways to effectively deal with

0:31:33.950,0:31:37.670
this matter so thank you for your time

0:31:37.400,0:31:40.690
today

0:31:37.670,0:31:40.690
all right Alex thank you

0:31:42.590,0:31:49.820
all right it is 505 before I guess we

0:31:48.200,0:31:51.350
need to receive them file and if you

0:31:49.820,0:31:54.830
have a comment

0:31:51.350,0:31:56.300
great yeah well I I would I mean I

0:31:54.830,0:32:00.970
appreciate the comments that have been

0:31:56.300,0:32:04.280
made in the suggestions I would

0:32:00.970,0:32:07.250
certainly appreciate from the city

0:32:04.280,0:32:08.900
attorney maybe seeing how this compares

0:32:07.250,0:32:11.180
to our ordinance and the suggestions

0:32:08.900,0:32:15.980
made and and if there is any

0:32:11.180,0:32:17.840
recommendation for best practices that

0:32:15.980,0:32:20.420
we as a city could could implement

0:32:17.840,0:32:24.290
through situations like this and I

0:32:20.420,0:32:27.920
welcome your recommendations so I'd make

0:32:24.290,0:32:30.560
a motion to just to be clear in that and

0:32:27.920,0:32:32.540
I I would support Josh's motion but just

0:32:30.560,0:32:35.930
to be clear there is a picture that you

0:32:32.540,0:32:36.920
had posted on there and I have the same

0:32:35.930,0:32:38.360
exact picture

0:32:36.920,0:32:40.700
you didn't zoom in on the loo no

0:32:38.360,0:32:43.160
trespassing the one that says posted no

0:32:40.700,0:32:44.690
trespassing the holes in the building

0:32:43.160,0:32:46.010
where people have ran into the building

0:32:44.690,0:32:48.650
and that's why they don't want your

0:32:46.010,0:32:51.980
parking in that some of those photos I

0:32:48.650,0:32:54.320
think you left out I mean there's

0:32:51.980,0:32:59.900
pictures of where cars have hit the

0:32:54.320,0:33:03.100
building so I mean I think the owners of

0:32:59.900,0:33:06.170
that building or I mean a picture of

0:33:03.100,0:33:07.430
that right there where where a car has

0:33:06.170,0:33:09.260
banged into the building

0:33:07.430,0:33:11.240
yeah and that's that's part of the

0:33:09.260,0:33:13.520
reason why they don't want trespassing

0:33:11.240,0:33:15.920
and cars parked on that lot and your car

0:33:13.520,0:33:19.580
was towed that night yeah I believe that

0:33:15.920,0:33:20.870
but I think that if you look at

0:33:19.580,0:33:21.800
businesses right I mean if you drive

0:33:20.870,0:33:23.090
around the East Village you can see

0:33:21.800,0:33:24.830
plenty of examples of businesses that

0:33:23.090,0:33:26.750
clearly do not want people to park there

0:33:24.830,0:33:29.720
I completely inaccurate Ian's better

0:33:26.750,0:33:31.550
links than that to make that known so

0:33:29.720,0:33:32.950
and I said that to them too if they

0:33:31.550,0:33:34.910
really didn't want people to park there

0:33:32.950,0:33:36.740
they would take a better approach than

0:33:34.910,0:33:38.210
the one that they Joe

0:33:36.740,0:33:40.760
and I would think that they have

0:33:38.210,0:33:43.400
probably taken a much better approach if

0:33:40.760,0:33:44.690
you've gone out there now and my

0:33:43.400,0:33:46.370
understanding that they went out there

0:33:44.690,0:33:48.320
30 minutes after you left here their

0:33:46.370,0:33:50.990
yard and all of these signs were posted

0:33:48.320,0:33:55.210
on that building at that time so I'm not

0:33:50.990,0:33:58.270
I'm not sure what the deal is but I

0:33:55.210,0:34:00.910
I mean I'd support whatever motion but

0:33:58.270,0:34:02.470
there there is two sides and I know that

0:34:00.910,0:34:05.290
the towing company has a very difficult

0:34:02.470,0:34:07.690
job because he has difficulties there me

0:34:05.290,0:34:10.030
as a small business owner and I've spoke

0:34:07.690,0:34:12.670
with Josh how people just dump cars into

0:34:10.030,0:34:13.600
my businesses property stolen cars cars

0:34:12.670,0:34:15.820
that don't run anymore

0:34:13.600,0:34:17.580
they'll just leave them and without with

0:34:15.820,0:34:20.170
that and I don't have any signs posted

0:34:17.580,0:34:22.420
but I would be stuck with that car in

0:34:20.170,0:34:25.860
there if we didn't tell that car yeah

0:34:22.420,0:34:27.610
and and I want to state that I have a

0:34:25.860,0:34:29.710
appreciation for the rights of private

0:34:27.610,0:34:30.850
property owners but I think that's the

0:34:29.710,0:34:32.710
balance that we need to strike yeah

0:34:30.850,0:34:35.140
because I agree with you I think if

0:34:32.710,0:34:38.410
someone sees a sign and they say to heck

0:34:35.140,0:34:39.760
with I'm gonna park there in some

0:34:38.410,0:34:40.390
respect you've consented to have your

0:34:39.760,0:34:42.610
car towed

0:34:40.390,0:34:45.730
yeah well but those are not situations

0:34:42.610,0:34:47.890
I'm talking about no that's alright

0:34:45.730,0:34:51.730
unforgivable motion here to receive in

0:34:47.890,0:34:54.130
file and just get recommendations if

0:34:51.730,0:34:57.610
there any best practices that are not

0:34:54.130,0:34:59.740
currently in our ordinance I with

0:34:57.610,0:35:02.080
Councilman Gatos points being well taken

0:34:59.740,0:35:07.090
I mean private property owners have a

0:35:02.080,0:35:09.520
right to remove vehicles it's if there's

0:35:07.090,0:35:12.910
anything that can be that we should be

0:35:09.520,0:35:17.340
thinking about relating to notice or if

0:35:12.910,0:35:20.230
there's you know the p4 Shahnaz well

0:35:17.340,0:35:23.350
those things seem reasonable to address

0:35:20.230,0:35:24.670
every issues right over here are on some

0:35:23.350,0:35:26.180
other issues that I think it would be

0:35:24.670,0:35:29.510
worthwhile

0:35:26.180,0:35:31.880
yeah all right so we're going to receive

0:35:29.510,0:35:34.039
in file and refer to appropriate

0:35:31.880,0:35:41.480
departments for recommendations on how

0:35:34.039,0:35:41.900
to work through this issue okay setting

0:35:41.480,0:35:46.160
yes

0:35:41.900,0:35:49.970
all right let's it is now 509 we're

0:35:46.160,0:35:53.510
gonna skip quickly to our hearings we're

0:35:49.970,0:35:56.390
past our five o'clock opening time first

0:35:53.510,0:35:59.240
item is 48 which are items regarding

0:35:56.390,0:36:02.839
Gray's landing and gray station urban

0:35:59.240,0:36:05.299
renewal projects located south of Martin

0:36:02.839,0:36:08.420
Luther King jr. Parkway and west of

0:36:05.299,0:36:10.250
Southwest 9th Street a is closing the

0:36:08.420,0:36:14.119
public hearing on the issuance of not to

0:36:10.250,0:36:17.869
exceed 8 million 500,000 urban renewal

0:36:14.119,0:36:19.849
revenue refunding section 108 government

0:36:17.869,0:36:23.299
guaranteed participation certificates

0:36:19.849,0:36:25.779
and one or more notes issued as part of

0:36:23.299,0:36:28.309
said series of the City of Des Moines

0:36:25.779,0:36:32.930
state of Iowa council communication

0:36:28.309,0:36:35.779
number 19 - 0 - 4 1 under that is

0:36:32.930,0:36:40.789
instituting and proceeding to take

0:36:35.779,0:36:43.730
additional action mr. attorney should we

0:36:40.789,0:36:46.670
read all three of these into this and

0:36:43.730,0:36:48.319
see if there's any comment on on any

0:36:46.670,0:36:49.640
amount once or take them dipped

0:36:48.319,0:36:51.079
separately you can read them all

0:36:49.640,0:36:53.779
together all right

0:36:51.079,0:36:56.930
he is closing the three party agreement

0:36:53.779,0:37:01.010
with the river point West LLC and HRC

0:36:56.930,0:37:03.079
and fs1 limited liability corporation

0:37:01.010,0:37:06.020
which provides for the sale at

0:37:03.079,0:37:09.710
city-owned land - rear Pointe West LLC

0:37:06.020,0:37:14.089
in approving same accounts communication

0:37:09.710,0:37:16.819
number 19 - 0 - 1 C is conditionally

0:37:14.089,0:37:19.760
approving the third amended and restated

0:37:16.819,0:37:22.250
urban renewal development agreement with

0:37:19.760,0:37:24.559
River Pointe West LLC for the Gray's

0:37:22.250,0:37:28.010
landing project council communication

0:37:24.559,0:37:29.630
number 19 - 0 to 2 let's go ahead and

0:37:28.010,0:37:32.359
open the hearing and see if there's

0:37:29.630,0:37:35.859
anybody in the audience who would like

0:37:32.359,0:37:35.859
to speak to this item

0:37:36.839,0:37:44.369
seeing none let's go ahead and see if

0:37:40.540,0:37:49.800
there's any council discussion on items

0:37:44.369,0:37:54.130
48 a B and C I'm happy to move items 48

0:37:49.800,0:37:59.710
48 a B and C appreciate all the work

0:37:54.130,0:38:01.900
that staff is put into put into this I

0:37:59.710,0:38:03.790
know it's been complicated there have

0:38:01.900,0:38:05.580
been lots of parties but this will

0:38:03.790,0:38:09.670
hopefully pay dividends down the line

0:38:05.580,0:38:11.260
and I'm excited to see things moving

0:38:09.670,0:38:14.500
forward and in this area

0:38:11.260,0:38:17.580
your most includes 48 a1 includes 40 a1

0:38:14.500,0:38:17.580
thank you for the clarification

0:38:23.390,0:38:31.529
seven yes

0:38:25.579,0:38:33.210
all right 49 on the urban renewal

0:38:31.529,0:38:35.279
development agreement with Market

0:38:33.210,0:38:38.130
District one LLC to purchase and develop

0:38:35.279,0:38:40.589
city-owned property at 401 southeast

0:38:38.130,0:38:43.259
Sixth and 400 South East seventh Street

0:38:40.589,0:38:45.029
in the Metro Center urban renewal area

0:38:43.259,0:38:47.569
and improving the conceptual development

0:38:45.029,0:38:51.660
plan counts communication number 19 -

0:38:47.569,0:38:54.720
zero zero five let's open the hearing on

0:38:51.660,0:38:55.950
this item and see if there's anybody in

0:38:54.720,0:39:02.759
the audience who would like to speak to

0:38:55.950,0:39:08.460
this item anyone seeing none

0:39:02.759,0:39:11.309
Council I will move item 49 hopefully we

0:39:08.460,0:39:13.259
can dig a hole and build something mr.

0:39:11.309,0:39:18.539
levy at this point and we won't have

0:39:13.259,0:39:19.380
this in front of us again mr. Connelly's

0:39:18.539,0:39:23.069
out there

0:39:19.380,0:39:25.049
I can't think of a oh he's right there I

0:39:23.069,0:39:28.499
can't think of a more persistent

0:39:25.049,0:39:30.930
development very persistent they have

0:39:28.499,0:39:34.619
not given up which is great this might

0:39:30.930,0:39:39.329
have been four years that I may be yeah

0:39:34.619,0:39:42.059
that's the first time I talked to you I

0:39:39.329,0:39:47.509
didn't see Matt so yeah I'll move item

0:39:42.059,0:39:47.509
49 seven yes

0:39:51.950,0:39:57.120
1050 on approval of documents for

0:39:54.420,0:39:59.220
conveyance of excess city-owned property

0:39:57.120,0:40:03.090
located at southeast 25th Street south

0:39:59.220,0:40:05.370
of Shaw Street to Jose Gonzalez a for

0:40:03.090,0:40:07.950
ten thousand nine hundred and fifty five

0:40:05.370,0:40:11.820
dollars open the hearing is there anyone

0:40:07.950,0:40:13.860
here to speak to this item regarding

0:40:11.820,0:40:14.280
property located on South East 25th

0:40:13.860,0:40:17.640
Street

0:40:14.280,0:40:22.880
I seem done mr. mayor I'll be divided

0:40:17.640,0:40:26.880
fifty right item fifties been moved

0:40:22.880,0:40:30.450
seven yes item 51 on the conveyance of

0:40:26.880,0:40:32.570
city-owned property at 1124 thirteen

0:40:30.450,0:40:36.060
Street in eleven no thirteen eleven

0:40:32.570,0:40:38.370
Laurel Street - indigo dawn LLC for

0:40:36.060,0:40:41.810
redevelopment of housing council

0:40:38.370,0:40:45.870
communication number 19 - double O three

0:40:41.810,0:40:50.930
any buddy here to speak on this item you

0:40:45.870,0:40:53.360
want to speak okay

0:40:50.930,0:40:56.970
anybody have any thoughts for questions

0:40:53.360,0:40:59.900
he's doing great great work done happy

0:40:56.970,0:40:59.900
to move out in 51

0:41:01.100,0:41:05.960
your choice sir seven yes

0:41:10.330,0:41:19.760
item 52 items regarding properties at

0:41:15.200,0:41:24.260
1900 1904 1912 and 1914 Southwest 4th

0:41:19.760,0:41:26.540
Street CS family properties LLC a is to

0:41:24.260,0:41:29.000
amend the existing plan DSM creating our

0:41:26.540,0:41:31.600
tomorrow plan future land use

0:41:29.000,0:41:34.670
designation from medium desserted

0:41:31.600,0:41:37.220
density residential to community

0:41:34.670,0:41:41.780
mixed-use to allow for rezoning to

0:41:37.220,0:41:43.400
limited dr down town riverfront and the

0:41:41.780,0:41:45.980
redevelopment for senior living

0:41:43.400,0:41:48.890
apartments at a density of up to 40

0:41:45.980,0:41:51.010
units per acre be is a hearing on the

0:41:48.890,0:41:54.230
rezoning the property from our three

0:41:51.010,0:41:57.500
multiple family residential to limited

0:41:54.230,0:41:59.150
dr downtown riverfront c is the first

0:41:57.500,0:42:00.650
consideration of the ordinance above d

0:41:59.150,0:42:02.240
is the final consideration the ordinance

0:42:00.650,0:42:06.020
above the waiver is requested by the

0:42:02.240,0:42:09.410
applicant and requires six votes let's

0:42:06.020,0:42:13.370
open the hearing on this item and I

0:42:09.410,0:42:15.080
think before Kieran gets closed if no

0:42:13.370,0:42:16.970
one comes up to speak I think we have

0:42:15.080,0:42:19.430
some questions where it might be useful

0:42:16.970,0:42:23.680
that staff come up yeah we may not even

0:42:19.430,0:42:23.680
want to close this here yeah okay

0:42:23.780,0:42:33.440
all right anybody here to speak to this

0:42:25.850,0:42:37.550
item its people leaving nobody to speak

0:42:33.440,0:42:41.800
to it okay let's turn back to the

0:42:37.550,0:42:47.140
council and let's let's discuss this

0:42:41.800,0:42:50.900
project anybody have any comments I

0:42:47.140,0:42:52.970
think there were there's just been some

0:42:50.900,0:42:56.270
questions related to the infrastructure

0:42:52.970,0:42:58.280
and I I wouldn't mind if there's someone

0:42:56.270,0:43:01.820
from staff that could help get a full

0:42:58.280,0:43:04.390
picture of the infrastructure that maybe

0:43:01.820,0:43:06.950
even put the photos up to understand

0:43:04.390,0:43:09.770
because my understanding is that there's

0:43:06.950,0:43:12.170
gonna be you know the full urban

0:43:09.770,0:43:14.960
cross-section required in some areas but

0:43:12.170,0:43:17.600
maybe not others and I just want to

0:43:14.960,0:43:20.240
understand where the proposed units are

0:43:17.600,0:43:27.110
what's happening in the length of the

0:43:20.240,0:43:29.470
property and where there might not throw

0:43:27.110,0:43:29.470
things

0:43:30.650,0:43:34.269
where where there might not be

0:43:39.390,0:43:42.500
don't know things I know

0:43:47.210,0:43:50.590
slide up a little bit

0:43:51.460,0:43:55.349
I just pulled it yeah

0:43:57.510,0:44:01.640
so the question about the cross-section

0:44:00.210,0:44:05.820
that yep

0:44:01.640,0:44:07.619
looking is on Southwest first right here

0:44:05.820,0:44:09.770
this st. Anthony's right here mm-hmm

0:44:07.619,0:44:11.970
it's right there and then on Edison here

0:44:09.770,0:44:13.650
that's what we're referring to of I know

0:44:11.970,0:44:18.480
the questions we answered for council

0:44:13.650,0:44:20.850
today yeah so so that whole length of

0:44:18.480,0:44:22.560
Southwest birth and that whole length of

0:44:20.850,0:44:24.990
Medicine we're requires a full cross

0:44:22.560,0:44:29.400
section which includes sidewalks gutter

0:44:24.990,0:44:31.619
curve and then the Columbus Avenue piece

0:44:29.400,0:44:35.580
in the southwest segment we are not

0:44:31.619,0:44:37.230
requiring that that correct my

0:44:35.580,0:44:41.550
understanding for this it's only on

0:44:37.230,0:44:43.440
Southwest first and then just Edison so

0:44:41.550,0:44:49.170
that will be the requirement of the

0:44:43.440,0:44:52.859
developer to put curb sidewalk gutter

0:44:49.170,0:44:57.300
yep on both of those streets pull from

0:44:52.859,0:45:00.030
Southwest second to from for Edison from

0:44:57.300,0:45:03.150
Southwest second dis outlets first yep

0:45:00.030,0:45:05.730
how about Columbus not not for sight

0:45:03.150,0:45:11.200
nothing nothing on Columbus nothing on

0:45:05.730,0:45:14.260
Southwest second yep okay

0:45:11.200,0:45:15.819
is Southwest second used is that the I

0:45:14.260,0:45:18.849
know there's a parcel that's closed

0:45:15.819,0:45:22.270
further to the north of Southwest second

0:45:18.849,0:45:24.069
that another developer owns and has a

0:45:22.270,0:45:25.390
sign up and doesn't allow through

0:45:24.069,0:45:28.089
traffic is that correct

0:45:25.390,0:45:31.589
is that Southwest second I'm not sure

0:45:28.089,0:45:31.589
about that Joe is Matt here

0:45:32.800,0:45:37.040
Southwest second is it is that like we

0:45:35.480,0:45:40.430
talked about today Matt that was up

0:45:37.040,0:45:42.710
there the Hansen where they turn in in

0:45:40.430,0:45:50.000
front of where that Reese is the

0:45:42.710,0:45:53.510
construction the semi place I know I'm

0:45:50.000,0:45:55.580
pretty sure it is so it's not really

0:45:53.510,0:45:57.320
it's not really a through Street south

0:45:55.580,0:46:01.760
of a second it's one on warm

0:45:57.320,0:46:05.270
yes no it goes up and then you can go

0:46:01.760,0:46:09.380
over or Madison flattest to get to in L

0:46:05.270,0:46:12.770
Avenue but you can't go any further then

0:46:09.380,0:46:14.900
then Madison flats and I believe we had

0:46:12.770,0:46:17.750
Madison flats put that Street in and

0:46:14.900,0:46:19.550
turn lane and that media and I believe

0:46:17.750,0:46:21.260
they had to put that in is that right I

0:46:19.550,0:46:23.420
don't know somebody been around long

0:46:21.260,0:46:28.070
enough this probably tell me because I

0:46:23.420,0:46:29.890
wasn't on the council at that time let

0:46:28.070,0:46:33.300
me

0:46:29.890,0:46:33.300
this is map

0:46:35.910,0:46:41.700
so here's st. Anthony's yeah

0:46:42.090,0:46:50.020
maybe Laura has it up here is that that

0:46:46.030,0:46:53.530
doesn't go out far yeah that doesn't go

0:46:50.020,0:46:58.900
out far enough the bad sand flats is at

0:46:53.530,0:47:01.840
the top of that page I don't know can

0:46:58.900,0:47:09.400
you zoom into that Chris see the cross

0:47:01.840,0:47:10.930
streets okay where you might want to

0:47:09.400,0:47:13.510
come up and then so you can address some

0:47:10.930,0:47:15.370
of these issues because I know the

0:47:13.510,0:47:18.280
neighborhood had some of these issues

0:47:15.370,0:47:20.950
that we talked about a little bit at the

0:47:18.280,0:47:23.470
neighborhood meeting yeah that's what I

0:47:20.950,0:47:26.590
was just telling him hi mr. mayor and

0:47:23.470,0:47:30.550
city council core hey by the way the

0:47:26.590,0:47:31.360
street that is in front of Iron Works is

0:47:30.550,0:47:33.640
that what we're talking about

0:47:31.360,0:47:38.890
Southwest 2nd yeah yeah that actually

0:47:33.640,0:47:40.300
connects to Indianola it comes out right

0:47:38.890,0:47:41.530
where that massive flat is and you're

0:47:40.300,0:47:44.530
done you know right right come right

0:47:41.530,0:47:47.020
ridge yeah it will run in to know that

0:47:44.530,0:47:48.580
streets close or do they guys not that

0:47:47.020,0:47:51.580
is actually not a through Street in

0:47:48.580,0:47:53.440
there I'll sign up that says that is not

0:47:51.580,0:47:55.840
a through Street okay because a

0:47:53.440,0:47:58.570
developer it pushes that whole area so

0:47:55.840,0:48:01.540
that it does not go all the way to the

0:47:58.570,0:48:04.690
bridge do they just do that maybe about

0:48:01.540,0:48:06.940
four or five months ago because I've

0:48:04.690,0:48:09.580
received numerous complaints about that

0:48:06.940,0:48:15.970
even though it's Josh's War I do not

0:48:09.580,0:48:18.220
know that there's an alternative oh

0:48:15.970,0:48:20.470
there is an alternative path that's why

0:48:18.220,0:48:22.000
to it turn there is large it or Maddox

0:48:20.470,0:48:24.960
appliances if your honor then you got a

0:48:22.000,0:48:24.960
HDMI in there

0:48:25.000,0:48:32.670
yeah oh wait enjoy no no

0:48:41.500,0:48:46.960
yeah go to the camera here we go okay

0:48:44.320,0:48:48.130
okay so Joe this is cut Matt Anderson

0:48:46.960,0:48:49.900
deputy city manager

0:48:48.130,0:48:52.690
councilman Gatto this is what we were

0:48:49.900,0:48:55.390
looking at this morning so right here is

0:48:52.690,0:48:57.790
where yep that's close now that's closed

0:48:55.390,0:49:00.790
now where you could come get to this

0:48:57.790,0:49:02.560
property directly from Indianola as this

0:49:00.790,0:49:04.780
gentleman has stated but this is closed

0:49:02.560,0:49:06.460
now barricades aren't up but there is a

0:49:04.780,0:49:09.460
sign put up at any point in time

0:49:06.460,0:49:11.770
barricades could be put up so you you

0:49:09.460,0:49:13.870
have to come in off of Dunham's and then

0:49:11.770,0:49:17.890
down second to get to the ironworks

0:49:13.870,0:49:20.200
place or to your facility if you came in

0:49:17.890,0:49:28.810
off of any and all that Avenue so South

0:49:20.200,0:49:30.940
last second I believe that that's yeah I

0:49:28.810,0:49:44.280
mean you can come in off of Southwest

0:49:30.940,0:49:48.490
first but I mean Dunham and Edison

0:49:44.280,0:49:51.310
Edison would yeah so some of the

0:49:48.490,0:49:56.050
concerns that the neighbors had had was

0:49:51.310,0:49:59.710
walkability to the bike path and also a

0:49:56.050,0:50:01.510
curb and gutter around around that and

0:49:59.710,0:50:03.850
who was going to pay for it and what

0:50:01.510,0:50:06.930
what the what the cop you know who's

0:50:03.850,0:50:06.930
responsible for it

0:50:07.609,0:50:12.920
and I guess we just all need to be clear

0:50:10.099,0:50:15.229
before we go forward what we're doing

0:50:12.920,0:50:17.509
here and you're gonna need to know and

0:50:15.229,0:50:19.549
so and what we're all gonna need to be

0:50:17.509,0:50:21.410
on the same page and I'm not sure how we

0:50:19.549,0:50:23.660
do it with other developments I know

0:50:21.410,0:50:25.640
some of them have done some some of them

0:50:23.660,0:50:27.739
haven't did all of them some of them

0:50:25.640,0:50:30.170
because I know there's certain portions

0:50:27.739,0:50:32.539
that we've allowed them not to do it and

0:50:30.170,0:50:34.729
then I've gotten complaints that why is

0:50:32.539,0:50:37.160
there a big puddle on the street you got

0:50:34.729,0:50:38.869
a brand new building and we didn't we

0:50:37.160,0:50:41.390
didn't do the new street or sewer on

0:50:38.869,0:50:43.819
there we were basing it off of that

0:50:41.390,0:50:45.529
Madison flat and kind of what the pre-op

0:50:43.819,0:50:47.630
medium was saying they were saying

0:50:45.529,0:50:49.700
whatever our main entrance may be say

0:50:47.630,0:50:54.349
it's Edison sure that we would have to

0:50:49.700,0:50:57.549
provide the curb and all that and cooked

0:50:54.349,0:50:59.900
as them to the main entrance and then

0:50:57.549,0:51:01.729
hoping this you know the city would

0:50:59.900,0:51:04.430
probably or somebody down the road would

0:51:01.729,0:51:08.420
take care of Columbus and what's out of

0:51:04.430,0:51:10.219
the one Burge target third second we

0:51:08.420,0:51:13.069
just need to be clear because right now

0:51:10.219,0:51:17.630
it's not in our five-year CIP to put

0:51:13.069,0:51:20.509
curb gutter street improvements to

0:51:17.630,0:51:23.269
either one of those streets so I mean we

0:51:20.509,0:51:25.519
just need to clear what we're doing here

0:51:23.269,0:51:27.019
and I just want to look ahead and try to

0:51:25.519,0:51:29.959
be somewhat proactive instead of

0:51:27.019,0:51:32.209
reactive to this because I know when

0:51:29.959,0:51:35.150
this goes in they're gonna look at you

0:51:32.209,0:51:37.660
and I and Josh and say who's gonna fix

0:51:35.150,0:51:46.599
that Street yeah

0:51:37.660,0:51:49.609
really they're gonna look at John yet so

0:51:46.599,0:51:53.660
does it include because we have a map on

0:51:49.609,0:51:55.969
our and in our council book that only

0:51:53.660,0:51:57.920
shows that you're only using half of the

0:51:55.969,0:51:59.749
parcel you're using the full block

0:51:57.920,0:52:01.160
aren't you crap right because you have

0:51:59.749,0:52:03.559
parking and you have a community garden

0:52:01.160,0:52:05.479
of retention that so well you do

0:52:03.559,0:52:07.999
landscaping along the southwest second

0:52:05.479,0:52:13.400
right you know and finish that off

0:52:07.999,0:52:15.319
I guess I'm open for whatever the city

0:52:13.400,0:52:16.999
and I would just say you know at least

0:52:15.319,0:52:19.119
if you had Lance requirements would be

0:52:16.999,0:52:24.009
so would you be open to do

0:52:19.119,0:52:26.469
the full the full street section on all

0:52:24.009,0:52:32.259
four sides you know at this point

0:52:26.469,0:52:33.640
probably not just because we have to see

0:52:32.259,0:52:36.059
what it's gonna cost to build the

0:52:33.640,0:52:38.130
project anyway you know I've already I

0:52:36.059,0:52:42.969
think we're already thinking around

0:52:38.130,0:52:43.509
seven yeah seven million to do it

0:52:42.969,0:52:46.989
already

0:52:43.509,0:52:50.469
no it is not is it nine yeah so either

0:52:46.989,0:52:52.809
way I at this point we would just like

0:52:50.469,0:53:01.390
to improve the main entrance off of

0:52:52.809,0:53:03.849
Edison I I think it sounds like a great

0:53:01.390,0:53:06.219
project on the on the one in on the

0:53:03.849,0:53:08.829
other hand I'm somewhat concerned about

0:53:06.219,0:53:12.009
you know how we deal with water issues

0:53:08.829,0:53:14.650
knowing that that area can tend to be a

0:53:12.009,0:53:16.119
little damp down there and so how do we

0:53:14.650,0:53:18.430
deal with that I mean you're gonna use

0:53:16.119,0:53:22.059
permeable pavement are we having trees I

0:53:18.430,0:53:26.019
mean bioswales Gardens I mean what are

0:53:22.059,0:53:27.549
we doing about those issues mr. mayor my

0:53:26.019,0:53:29.229
name is Pierce Cody I've worked with

0:53:27.549,0:53:31.900
Simonson and associates architects and

0:53:29.229,0:53:35.799
we're here with Cory today is the

0:53:31.900,0:53:38.229
developer water retention of course by

0:53:35.799,0:53:40.180
city standard is required on all new

0:53:38.229,0:53:42.009
developments so we will have on-site

0:53:40.180,0:53:45.309
detention for our own water that we're

0:53:42.009,0:53:47.109
generating on this site while this is an

0:53:45.309,0:53:51.489
early concept of course for landscaping

0:53:47.109,0:53:58.299
keeping as much of the site in turf as

0:53:51.489,0:53:59.650
opposed to concrete and were we defined

0:53:58.299,0:54:03.489
that we can't accommodate everything

0:53:59.650,0:54:05.829
with surface detention in the lower

0:54:03.489,0:54:07.660
corner of the site we would of course

0:54:05.829,0:54:09.969
have to entertain underground detention

0:54:07.660,0:54:12.400
as well but we would meet city standards

0:54:09.969,0:54:17.859
in that regard relative to the street

0:54:12.400,0:54:21.549
improvements based on our pre AB meeting

0:54:17.859,0:54:23.559
with city staff and Beansie they've

0:54:21.549,0:54:27.640
requested that we do full section across

0:54:23.559,0:54:29.049
Southwest first and Essen and I believe

0:54:27.640,0:54:30.910
frankly that it wasn't even the full

0:54:29.049,0:54:31.960
extent of Edison it was primarily the

0:54:30.910,0:54:33.339
two

0:54:31.960,0:54:37.060
portions of the street were our main

0:54:33.339,0:54:39.180
entry into the site so that increased

0:54:37.060,0:54:41.770
traffic generated to the site is

0:54:39.180,0:54:44.050
actually going on top of improved baton

0:54:41.770,0:54:45.609
on as opposed to saying that might be in

0:54:44.050,0:54:48.430
a little bit lesser condition older

0:54:45.609,0:54:50.470
condition they did not have a

0:54:48.430,0:54:52.450
requirement for us to do urban gutter

0:54:50.470,0:54:56.560
and certainly not full section on all

0:54:52.450,0:54:58.270
four sides of the property there might

0:54:56.560,0:55:00.280
be a compromise position where we would

0:54:58.270,0:55:02.560
think about curb and gutter on the other

0:55:00.280,0:55:05.830
two sides but frankly I'm not sure that

0:55:02.560,0:55:07.990
buys us much improvement because

0:55:05.830,0:55:10.030
whatever eventually replaces those two

0:55:07.990,0:55:12.820
streets would have to match up with what

0:55:10.030,0:55:16.210
we do and at the time without any design

0:55:12.820,0:55:19.359
work who knows how well that would tie

0:55:16.210,0:55:22.300
into what the future plan is so from our

0:55:19.359,0:55:23.880
perspective I think we're being pretty

0:55:22.300,0:55:27.970
generous in the sense that we're paving

0:55:23.880,0:55:31.690
to full public streets sidewalks curb

0:55:27.970,0:55:35.430
and gutter on the sites that we are but

0:55:31.690,0:55:37.359
of course you may disagree with that I

0:55:35.430,0:55:39.580
understand that this neighborhood needs

0:55:37.359,0:55:41.619
more the question is whether this

0:55:39.580,0:55:43.480
development should do it all so are you

0:55:41.619,0:55:45.520
not because it kind of shows on this

0:55:43.480,0:55:46.930
piece of paper that you're putting

0:55:45.520,0:55:48.940
sidewalks all the way around your

0:55:46.930,0:55:51.160
property yes we are putting sidewalks on

0:55:48.940,0:55:53.080
a site cooperating so what we're more

0:55:51.160,0:55:54.700
concerned about of course the the full

0:55:53.080,0:55:59.580
width of the street curb and gutter on

0:55:54.700,0:56:04.390
both sides that's a much larger suspense

0:55:59.580,0:56:06.550
sapelo seconds really a road that it's

0:56:04.390,0:56:08.530
halfway closed I mean that's there isn't

0:56:06.550,0:56:10.359
much traffic it doesn't it shouldn't the

0:56:08.530,0:56:12.070
only traffic you're gonna get is when

0:56:10.359,0:56:13.359
the kids are getting dropped off to

0:56:12.070,0:56:15.640
school and these people can't pull out

0:56:13.359,0:56:17.830
and go down Edison they're gonna go to

0:56:15.640,0:56:21.790
where mattes and flat is and go go away

0:56:17.830,0:56:24.400
from that Columbus there's nothing other

0:56:21.790,0:56:26.890
than an ironworks behind it I mean

0:56:24.400,0:56:29.800
there's no accessibility to anything

0:56:26.890,0:56:32.140
other than Southwest second so I'm sure

0:56:29.800,0:56:35.290
that's what P & Z was was looking at

0:56:32.140,0:56:36.520
when they looked at it there's no I mean

0:56:35.290,0:56:38.380
if you

0:56:36.520,0:56:40.180
there's a daycare there but really I

0:56:38.380,0:56:42.369
think this is the parking for Iron Works

0:56:40.180,0:56:45.490
isn't it that gravel that gravel dry

0:56:42.369,0:56:48.070
believe so so there's absolutely nothing

0:56:45.490,0:56:52.150
there so I mean if if the improvements

0:56:48.070,0:56:53.770
this house bursts are completed and them

0:56:52.150,0:56:56.140
got sidewalks all the way around

0:56:53.770,0:56:59.530
yep and Edison is is completed up to

0:56:56.140,0:57:01.720
your access point and probably goes

0:56:59.530,0:57:03.369
beyond it to some Riya I'll be honest

0:57:01.720,0:57:05.170
I'm a little fuzzy about how much we've

0:57:03.369,0:57:07.270
committed to and pnz there but I do know

0:57:05.170,0:57:11.530
that we're replacing at least portion of

0:57:07.270,0:57:13.420
that stream what one of my questions is

0:57:11.530,0:57:16.510
you'll look at this area and knowing

0:57:13.420,0:57:18.970
what's kind of to the west of it up to

0:57:16.510,0:57:21.700
the river end down I mean that that at

0:57:18.970,0:57:24.580
some are another especially with a nice

0:57:21.700,0:57:27.310
development here that may open up to

0:57:24.580,0:57:29.589
something besides ironworks certain in

0:57:27.310,0:57:33.700
whatever and so what access are we're

0:57:29.589,0:57:36.369
going to use moving down the the road to

0:57:33.700,0:57:38.859
get access to that property that could

0:57:36.369,0:57:41.349
also have some future value as well and

0:57:38.859,0:57:43.359
you know if we just toss it out and say

0:57:41.349,0:57:44.770
well done there now and you know it's

0:57:43.359,0:57:46.450
not going to happen though agreed we

0:57:44.770,0:57:49.210
have to have but at the same time if

0:57:46.450,0:57:50.980
whatever replaces Iron Works uses

0:57:49.210,0:57:54.099
Columbus as their main entry which I

0:57:50.980,0:57:55.810
think they probably would it seems like

0:57:54.099,0:57:57.609
that improvement comes along with that

0:57:55.810,0:57:59.920
project much like we're improving our

0:57:57.609,0:58:02.349
project I just think we have to make the

0:57:59.920,0:58:05.650
pathways to make that a possibility and

0:58:02.349,0:58:07.540
at least see that as a potential at this

0:58:05.650,0:58:09.700
time what Ray you know lay the

0:58:07.540,0:58:11.530
groundwork for something in the future

0:58:09.700,0:58:13.839
to happen not that we have to pave all

0:58:11.530,0:58:16.780
that stuff but just make sure we

0:58:13.839,0:58:19.180
recognize that you know that's probably

0:58:16.780,0:58:20.920
what's going to happen we're talking

0:58:19.180,0:58:26.020
about Joe you and I talked about

0:58:20.920,0:58:29.440
recently you know a a scrapyard not far

0:58:26.020,0:58:30.790
from here that needs to be removed that

0:58:29.440,0:58:34.570
there are some developers that are

0:58:30.790,0:58:38.470
looking at real hardened and that's that

0:58:34.570,0:58:40.780
you know first I want to say centuries

0:58:38.470,0:58:43.089
but decades I've been something that we

0:58:40.780,0:58:44.680
would never have imagined that there'd

0:58:43.089,0:58:46.330
be this kind of interest but looking at

0:58:44.680,0:58:48.550
everything that's happened so positively

0:58:46.330,0:58:49.780
in the East Village and then seeing some

0:58:48.550,0:58:51.640
really positive thing

0:58:49.780,0:58:54.550
happen around this and I think member

0:58:51.640,0:58:57.330
there goes to discussion we had at

0:58:54.550,0:59:00.760
Beansie which is currently this site is

0:58:57.330,0:59:02.650
well there there are two parcels there's

0:59:00.760,0:59:04.660
an alley that runs up and down on this

0:59:02.650,0:59:08.110
plan between the two sites what is

0:59:04.660,0:59:10.330
already our downtown riverfront the

0:59:08.110,0:59:11.860
others are three I believe it is and

0:59:10.330,0:59:13.630
we're asking that we change the are

0:59:11.860,0:59:16.000
three to match the D are on the other

0:59:13.630,0:59:17.740
side that way we have consistent zoning

0:59:16.000,0:59:23.710
consistent setbacks that sort of thing

0:59:17.740,0:59:26.050
across the parcel but ultimately in the

0:59:23.710,0:59:28.630
current land use plan this entire

0:59:26.050,0:59:32.860
neighborhood eventually kind of goes to

0:59:28.630,0:59:36.010
be a dr a kind of level of density and

0:59:32.860,0:59:38.110
and as this neighborhood redevelops

0:59:36.010,0:59:41.290
that's probably what it's going to take

0:59:38.110,0:59:42.940
on in terms of its character much like

0:59:41.290,0:59:46.570
the apartments long you need all have

0:59:42.940,0:59:48.430
done already so i think this is another

0:59:46.570,0:59:51.970
step in the evolution of this

0:59:48.430,0:59:54.820
neighborhood someone so that we're gonna

0:59:51.970,0:59:58.060
have storm sewers on sapless first

0:59:54.820,1:00:00.970
correct water is gonna go into a storm

0:59:58.060,1:00:02.890
sewer and go away from this I'm gonna be

1:00:00.970,1:00:05.470
very honest I don't know if there was

1:00:02.890,1:00:07.450
existing storm sewer in that as I see an

1:00:05.470,1:00:09.490
existing storm sewer on southla second

1:00:07.450,1:00:14.880
and this is there one on top recording

1:00:09.490,1:00:19.600
right here Joe over here the water main

1:00:14.880,1:00:21.580
a sanitary sewer but I mean if you're

1:00:19.600,1:00:25.390
gonna put curb and me wait no it's

1:00:21.580,1:00:27.670
actually here because you put it has a

1:00:25.390,1:00:29.410
water sanitary and storm sewer shall be

1:00:27.670,1:00:32.080
provided in accordance with City of Des

1:00:29.410,1:00:34.300
Moines standards on here does that mean

1:00:32.080,1:00:36.700
that you're well right there public

1:00:34.300,1:00:38.200
storm sir okay perfect right there so

1:00:36.700,1:00:39.610
you'll be able to tap into that when we

1:00:38.200,1:00:42.160
finish the screen everything I'll be

1:00:39.610,1:00:44.050
fine right down there on the corner

1:00:42.160,1:00:45.850
where Saint Anthony's is you swell it

1:00:44.050,1:00:50.200
goes all along Columbus there as well

1:00:45.850,1:00:51.820
okay when I noticed that on the I guess

1:00:50.200,1:00:53.200
the southwest corner of the property

1:00:51.820,1:00:55.830
there's that little note that says

1:00:53.200,1:00:58.570
proposed connection to public storms or

1:00:55.830,1:01:03.580
I'm sorry from the detention area from

1:00:58.570,1:01:06.730
the detention base right yes

1:01:03.580,1:01:08.530
so where's the storm tore well there's a

1:01:06.730,1:01:10.030
storm sewer an existing 10-inch in

1:01:08.530,1:01:12.100
Columbus Avenue down the center who

1:01:10.030,1:01:13.720
can't read and then I believe the

1:01:12.100,1:01:15.310
detention area of showing it exiting II

1:01:13.720,1:01:18.880
to another to the mr. mayor

1:01:15.310,1:01:21.280
okay so there's storms who are on the

1:01:18.880,1:01:23.860
west side of the property yes so that's

1:01:21.280,1:01:26.410
there it's just not a well finished

1:01:23.860,1:01:29.500
street so I guess I would my other

1:01:26.410,1:01:30.790
question how do we I guess we've

1:01:29.500,1:01:33.340
collected the storm water where do we

1:01:30.790,1:01:37.780
take it there's a place today get to see

1:01:33.340,1:01:39.610
it unfortunately Southwest seconds that

1:01:37.780,1:01:42.640
we need to figure out I mean if that

1:01:39.610,1:01:45.960
streets gonna be closed then we could

1:01:42.640,1:01:47.800
easily take it to Columbus Avenue I mean

1:01:45.960,1:01:49.510
yeah but you've already got a sewer

1:01:47.800,1:01:52.330
there you're gonna write you know I I

1:01:49.510,1:01:54.010
just I mean I'm comfortable with

1:01:52.330,1:01:56.650
Southwest verse I think the neighbors

1:01:54.010,1:01:58.420
would appreciate that being finished I

1:01:56.650,1:01:59.950
think they would appreciate Edison with

1:01:58.420,1:02:03.640
curb and gutter being finished with the

1:01:59.950,1:02:05.890
with the storm sewer I think I

1:02:03.640,1:02:07.720
appreciate the mayor's comments and I

1:02:05.890,1:02:09.640
think all of us are concerned that I'm

1:02:07.720,1:02:11.050
sure Iron Works isn't probably going to

1:02:09.640,1:02:15.850
be there forever this could be a

1:02:11.050,1:02:17.680
catalyst but I mean whoever or whenever

1:02:15.850,1:02:21.100
that happens then that might be a

1:02:17.680,1:02:24.610
responsibility of them plus you know a

1:02:21.100,1:02:26.530
portion of the city CIP to you know

1:02:24.610,1:02:30.760
strengthen some some other development

1:02:26.530,1:02:32.680
to the West there I think I think that

1:02:30.760,1:02:34.810
that answers a lot of the questions that

1:02:32.680,1:02:40.330
that we had yeah

1:02:34.810,1:02:44.320
and the neighbors really and I think to

1:02:40.330,1:02:47.140
all this it really gives a nice nod to

1:02:44.320,1:02:48.820
affordable housing so well at least for

1:02:47.140,1:02:52.750
1200 first thing we're successful with

1:02:48.820,1:02:54.070
hyper so yeah absolutely yeah you're

1:02:52.750,1:02:58.030
gonna go ahead and build it if you don't

1:02:54.070,1:03:01.650
get the iPhone probably not subsidized

1:02:58.030,1:03:05.680
housing is very very tight business so

1:03:01.650,1:03:08.260
okay yeah well I yeah I think we need we

1:03:05.680,1:03:10.510
need the housing I I'm hopeful it's a

1:03:08.260,1:03:11.530
catalyst in this area as well because

1:03:10.510,1:03:13.110
this area has a

1:03:11.530,1:03:17.560
tremendous amount of potential

1:03:13.110,1:03:25.230
appreciate that in detail in unison with

1:03:17.560,1:03:25.230
that I'm willing to move item 52 ABC and

1:03:30.930,1:03:43.290
seven yes 153 these are items regarding

1:03:39.730,1:03:46.600
property at 11:45 and 1147 24th Street

1:03:43.290,1:03:49.180
Mulvihill Farms Inc has to mend the

1:03:46.600,1:03:51.430
existing plan dsm creating our tomorrow

1:03:49.180,1:03:53.620
plan future land use designation from

1:03:51.430,1:03:55.810
low medium density residential to

1:03:53.620,1:03:58.750
neighborhood mixed-use to allow for

1:03:55.810,1:04:00.940
rezoning to limited NPC neighborhood

1:03:58.750,1:04:02.770
pedestrian commercial and expansion of

1:04:00.940,1:04:06.040
the off street parking for existing

1:04:02.770,1:04:09.790
multifamily dwellings in for shared

1:04:06.040,1:04:12.280
parking for nearby mixed-use be is a

1:04:09.790,1:04:14.980
hearing on the rezoning the property

1:04:12.280,1:04:17.680
from our 160 low density residential the

1:04:14.980,1:04:19.150
NPC neighborhood pedestrian commercial C

1:04:17.680,1:04:22.000
is the first consideration the orange

1:04:19.150,1:04:23.680
above D is the final consideration of

1:04:22.000,1:04:25.480
the ordinance above and the waiver is

1:04:23.680,1:04:30.190
requested by the applicant and requires

1:04:25.480,1:04:31.780
six votes let's go ahead and open the

1:04:30.190,1:04:35.380
hearing and see if anybody's here to

1:04:31.780,1:04:38.650
speak about this project over just south

1:04:35.380,1:04:41.770
of the University on 24th Street we

1:04:38.650,1:04:43.890
should we should kind of Chris up to

1:04:41.770,1:04:43.890
achieve

1:04:44.540,1:04:48.830
don't be knocking that chair over Chris

1:04:52.580,1:04:59.880
you want to step up and if you would

1:04:57.930,1:05:03.900
like to speak or you want to respond to

1:04:59.880,1:05:04.620
what I'll just speak don't care about it

1:05:03.900,1:05:06.410
that'll be grand

1:05:04.620,1:05:09.390
I'm Robert Mulvihill I own those

1:05:06.410,1:05:11.610
properties and I requested the zoning

1:05:09.390,1:05:14.580
change to get more parking for those

1:05:11.610,1:05:18.210
three properties the 1147 property does

1:05:14.580,1:05:20.700
not have any off street parking and it's

1:05:18.210,1:05:25.140
the five Plex so it needs about seven

1:05:20.700,1:05:26.700
spaces or so the 1145 building that's

1:05:25.140,1:05:28.680
the parking lot is there but it needs to

1:05:26.700,1:05:31.080
be resurfaced and then I'm starting a

1:05:28.680,1:05:33.450
new business at 11:39 24th Street which

1:05:31.080,1:05:35.940
is a third property and it could use

1:05:33.450,1:05:38.000
more parking for the business so we used

1:05:35.940,1:05:40.470
by converting it's commercial we could

1:05:38.000,1:05:43.530
kind of have a shared use parking

1:05:40.470,1:05:45.690
between the three properties so that was

1:05:43.530,1:05:48.300
kind of reasoning behind it and there's

1:05:45.690,1:05:50.690
been more parking on 24th Street this

1:05:48.300,1:05:54.830
past year just due to changes in

1:05:50.690,1:05:54.830
Tennessee but Drake properties

1:05:55.460,1:06:00.260
and against the the questions in this

1:05:58.430,1:06:02.599
this is going to be as much for for

1:06:00.260,1:06:05.990
Chris but probably gonna have some

1:06:02.599,1:06:09.290
questions here too you know we've got

1:06:05.990,1:06:11.650
the neighborhood pilot program going on

1:06:09.290,1:06:16.640
and I had a question about how this

1:06:11.650,1:06:20.780
connects and you know particularly when

1:06:16.640,1:06:24.200
we're doing something that will you know

1:06:20.780,1:06:26.450
we're looking to the property owners

1:06:24.200,1:06:30.200
looking to add value and we're trying to

1:06:26.450,1:06:33.140
bring up the quality of of all of these

1:06:30.200,1:06:36.460
properties and how are we thinking about

1:06:33.140,1:06:40.880
that and in particular these properties

1:06:36.460,1:06:42.740
you know I've been out there and you

1:06:40.880,1:06:44.210
know this is the money that's being

1:06:42.740,1:06:47.240
invested in these properties that

1:06:44.210,1:06:52.960
there's clearly some need for investment

1:06:47.240,1:06:56.420
in from maybe even meeting code but also

1:06:52.960,1:06:58.040
improving that exterior and curb appeal

1:06:56.420,1:06:59.960
of these properties as well

1:06:58.040,1:07:01.400
mayor member city council chris

1:06:59.960,1:07:03.440
johansson community velopment director

1:07:01.400,1:07:05.000
with regards to the two rental

1:07:03.440,1:07:07.359
properties particular i think that's

1:07:05.000,1:07:10.940
exactly what you're getting at

1:07:07.359,1:07:12.260
for currently on our current rental code

1:07:10.940,1:07:13.880
I know this is something we could take a

1:07:12.260,1:07:17.089
look at and address more immediately

1:07:13.880,1:07:19.490
than waiting for the our pilot areas to

1:07:17.089,1:07:21.109
complete I know they do have rental

1:07:19.490,1:07:22.819
certificates right now but this is

1:07:21.109,1:07:25.280
something we could go out and address

1:07:22.819,1:07:28.430
right now with addition to moving

1:07:25.280,1:07:30.200
forward with our our neighborhood

1:07:28.430,1:07:31.549
revitalization program I think one thing

1:07:30.200,1:07:33.819
we're trying to do is develop more

1:07:31.549,1:07:38.569
incentives for these types of properties

1:07:33.819,1:07:40.309
we've talked not only about having some

1:07:38.569,1:07:42.440
sort of program to help with the repair

1:07:40.309,1:07:44.869
cost for this loans grants we haven't

1:07:42.440,1:07:46.490
gotten all through that yet but that's

1:07:44.869,1:07:49.309
an opportunity to something to look at

1:07:46.490,1:07:50.960
to address these types of issues not

1:07:49.309,1:07:54.440
only just for the rental but also for

1:07:50.960,1:07:56.780
the single-family as well but where

1:07:54.440,1:07:59.480
we're at right now I I'm comfortable in

1:07:56.780,1:08:01.970
saying that we drove by and looked at

1:07:59.480,1:08:03.710
the properties today this is something

1:08:01.970,1:08:06.700
we could we could do a reinfection with

1:08:03.710,1:08:09.560
them in address before the end of this

1:08:06.700,1:08:11.780
project happens yeah well I guess

1:08:09.560,1:08:14.150
one of the questions that that I have

1:08:11.780,1:08:16.730
just in general with the neighborhood

1:08:14.150,1:08:21.830
plans when you're we're talking about

1:08:16.730,1:08:25.850
incentives well and I mean zoning is one

1:08:21.830,1:08:29.390
of the tools that we have and we have I

1:08:25.850,1:08:31.339
mean it's an incentive to property

1:08:29.390,1:08:34.430
owners if they want to come in and ask

1:08:31.339,1:08:36.500
us for rezoning that that they invest in

1:08:34.430,1:08:40.370
their property right I mean there's

1:08:36.500,1:08:43.790
nothing wrong with us and they go bring

1:08:40.370,1:08:46.850
it out to come yeah we have to be really

1:08:43.790,1:08:49.759
careful that there's zoning its

1:08:46.850,1:08:53.779
statutory predominantly in Iowa and we

1:08:49.759,1:08:58.430
have an ability to agree to certain

1:08:53.779,1:09:02.650
zoning conditions with the property

1:08:58.430,1:09:06.080
owner those generally are related to as

1:09:02.650,1:09:08.990
zoning to the use of the property as

1:09:06.080,1:09:11.359
opposed to particular conditions of the

1:09:08.990,1:09:14.000
property in those conditions generally

1:09:11.359,1:09:15.920
as your community development directors

1:09:14.000,1:09:20.509
indicating our address through different

1:09:15.920,1:09:21.980
codes perhaps I mean one of one of the

1:09:20.509,1:09:24.859
things that council has done in the past

1:09:21.980,1:09:27.049
is to continue the hearing continue the

1:09:24.859,1:09:29.540
item generally visit with the owner

1:09:27.049,1:09:31.370
about certain commitments and and what

1:09:29.540,1:09:33.500
what they're going to do prior to

1:09:31.370,1:09:36.859
council going ahead and potentially

1:09:33.500,1:09:38.330
exacerbating a situation like for

1:09:36.859,1:09:41.540
example you might have here if the

1:09:38.330,1:09:46.730
property becomes commercial and and

1:09:41.540,1:09:51.319
you've got some multi flexes that could

1:09:46.730,1:09:52.940
create other problems but we'd be we

1:09:51.319,1:09:57.200
have to be very careful in terms of

1:09:52.940,1:09:58.130
using zoning as a hammer for property

1:09:57.200,1:10:01.700
can

1:09:58.130,1:10:05.240
conditions as opposed to uses if it's

1:10:01.700,1:10:07.790
it's a route that I think we can

1:10:05.240,1:10:09.500
successfully navigate or at least have

1:10:07.790,1:10:10.700
in the past but I don't think I can make

1:10:09.500,1:10:12.380
I don't think I can give you a broad

1:10:10.700,1:10:14.290
statement that that's fine to tie

1:10:12.380,1:10:18.710
whatever incentives to the zoning yeah

1:10:14.290,1:10:20.430
and the use the the use piece which is

1:10:18.710,1:10:22.710
appropriate pers owning and that the

1:10:20.430,1:10:25.580
question there is if our general goal I

1:10:22.710,1:10:29.040
mean these are two units that have I

1:10:25.580,1:10:31.530
mean there are five five flex is it

1:10:29.040,1:10:40.560
right or they say sex and I think I mean

1:10:31.530,1:10:45.300
I five so that that's a use question two

1:10:40.560,1:10:47.450
to some degree and what is that existing

1:10:45.300,1:10:51.890
kitchen space is building what is that

1:10:47.450,1:10:53.940
it building next to it I think it's a

1:10:51.890,1:10:57.540
34k to eyes front

1:10:53.940,1:11:00.020
you can go restauranteurs no okay shared

1:10:57.540,1:11:02.850
kitchen stress isn't it yeah that's

1:11:00.020,1:11:06.390
partly um what she said is right

1:11:02.850,1:11:08.280
it's it's a well you'll hear about it

1:11:06.390,1:11:09.840
every months but it's a building that

1:11:08.280,1:11:12.150
has four kitchens in it that people can

1:11:09.840,1:11:13.650
rent by the hour then in the front part

1:11:12.150,1:11:16.380
will be a kind of a kitchen cafe that

1:11:13.650,1:11:17.880
people can rent as a kitchen or rent it

1:11:16.380,1:11:20.220
as a cafe where they can sell food from

1:11:17.880,1:11:22.500
there so will be open to the public

1:11:20.220,1:11:25.320
yeah the puzzle where's the parking up

1:11:22.500,1:11:26.120
for that that's that's why it went so

1:11:25.320,1:11:29.250
sorry

1:11:26.120,1:11:32.719
yeah answering your question yeah

1:11:29.250,1:11:35.960
excellent yeah I mean

1:11:32.719,1:11:39.590
I thought it was for the apartments but

1:11:35.960,1:11:41.870
that's in theory what it is because it's

1:11:39.590,1:11:44.660
tied to the apartments right now but in

1:11:41.870,1:11:47.170
reality it's I'm so easy to survey for

1:11:44.660,1:11:50.780
that that kitchen space is worth asking

1:11:47.170,1:11:52.250
tennis builders there so is it for the

1:11:50.780,1:11:54.680
tenants where's the further kitchen

1:11:52.250,1:11:58.760
space that's for both it's a mixed use

1:11:54.680,1:12:00.260
that's why it ok because the NPC is for

1:11:58.760,1:12:02.300
the kitchen spaces building but the

1:12:00.260,1:12:05.239
other two are residential so by making

1:12:02.300,1:12:09.110
them all commercial they'll can share

1:12:05.239,1:12:10.969
the same ok maybe I just didn't read it

1:12:09.110,1:12:15.560
correctly because I think what's the use

1:12:10.969,1:12:16.390
directly south of this of the edge of

1:12:15.560,1:12:19.310
your property

1:12:16.390,1:12:21.110
it's a dip it's a duplex you mean on the

1:12:19.310,1:12:25.340
south side of the kitchen space is Donen

1:12:21.110,1:12:29.300
yeah that's a duplex that's mid block

1:12:25.340,1:12:32.920
there's not a street and that's also is

1:12:29.300,1:12:32.920
that also one of your properties yeah

1:12:34.250,1:12:39.120
not by inclination I guess is to

1:12:36.690,1:12:41.810
continue this and to have conversations

1:12:39.120,1:12:41.810
about

1:12:43.290,1:12:50.740
to see what we can do on on the full

1:12:46.330,1:12:53.560
range of properties around here and so I

1:12:50.740,1:12:57.880
don't I don't know if we need more than

1:12:53.560,1:13:00.040
two more than a council meeting or I

1:12:57.880,1:13:03.490
don't know who we refer to I mean you

1:13:00.040,1:13:07.360
want that staff at the NP and Z or what

1:13:03.490,1:13:09.490
do you think it I mean I think it can

1:13:07.360,1:13:11.290
probably just be done with staff right I

1:13:09.490,1:13:14.460
don't I don't know that it needs to go

1:13:11.290,1:13:18.520
back to PNC okay so we refer to staff

1:13:14.460,1:13:20.800
come back what do you think and next

1:13:18.520,1:13:24.370
meeting or two meetings from now what do

1:13:20.800,1:13:27.220
you think I may would ask that well I'm

1:13:24.370,1:13:29.530
concerned I could and we can discuss

1:13:27.220,1:13:31.210
this more but is parking the

1:13:29.530,1:13:33.340
appropriateness of the additional

1:13:31.210,1:13:36.130
parking part of that question except

1:13:33.340,1:13:39.810
that would be trafficking as well to to

1:13:36.130,1:13:42.270
understand our parking situation

1:13:39.810,1:13:43.740
yeah I mean throw what else has to go

1:13:42.270,1:13:48.450
through a traffic study don't they when

1:13:43.740,1:13:50.810
they open up a business yeah okay I just

1:13:48.450,1:13:52.890
didn't I didn't read it that we were

1:13:50.810,1:13:57.390
giving additional parking to a

1:13:52.890,1:14:00.930
commercial building I just didn't see it

1:13:57.390,1:14:03.750
anywhere in there I mean up that's in I

1:14:00.930,1:14:07.500
mean just service perhaps continuing

1:14:03.750,1:14:09.330
continuing to the next meeting with

1:14:07.500,1:14:12.240
councils understanding that that may be

1:14:09.330,1:14:13.860
very that's okay and again might have to

1:14:12.240,1:14:16.260
continue it again and continue as

1:14:13.860,1:14:17.640
appropriate or yeah I'm just gonna try

1:14:16.260,1:14:21.690
to get it resolved as quickly as

1:14:17.640,1:14:25.410
possible and if I can do and with our

1:14:21.690,1:14:27.120
eye to continue this councilman until

1:14:25.410,1:14:29.130
next meeting and let's sit here you get

1:14:27.120,1:14:33.020
it done and then we'll get in touch with

1:14:29.130,1:14:33.020
you if there's a hang-up somewhere along

1:14:49.080,1:15:03.670
seven yes it's existing alright it takes

1:15:01.360,1:15:06.640
us to item 54 item that pours on a

1:15:03.670,1:15:10.030
proposed Drake urban renewal plan

1:15:06.640,1:15:11.800
receiving in filing the determination of

1:15:10.030,1:15:13.690
the Des Moines Planning and Zoning

1:15:11.800,1:15:15.400
Commission and adopting the urban

1:15:13.690,1:15:18.220
renewal plan council communication

1:15:15.400,1:15:19.630
number 19 - double O six as a

1:15:18.220,1:15:22.260
recommendation of the Planning and

1:15:19.630,1:15:25.030
Zoning Commission B is the resolution of

1:15:22.260,1:15:27.340
necessity for Drake urban renewal plan

1:15:25.030,1:15:30.130
and C is the first consideration the

1:15:27.340,1:15:33.820
ordinance designating the area as a TIF

1:15:30.130,1:15:37.810
district the only comment I will make is

1:15:33.820,1:15:41.080
this was some very extensive reading

1:15:37.810,1:15:43.810
over the weekend but some good history

1:15:41.080,1:15:45.910
involved also it's really a detailed

1:15:43.810,1:15:49.500
plan so any rate let's open it up is

1:15:45.910,1:15:55.780
there anybody here to speak to this plan

1:15:49.500,1:16:05.230
anybody seeing none let's I'm happy to

1:15:55.780,1:16:07.090
move item 54 a B and C and C now not do

1:16:05.230,1:16:12.430
we need a couple more readings can we

1:16:07.090,1:16:15.610
waive those and I'll move to waive the

1:16:12.430,1:16:17.920
second and third reading as well I agree

1:16:15.610,1:16:20.170
with Josh this is a great opportunity we

1:16:17.920,1:16:23.410
have a lot of synergy working down there

1:16:20.170,1:16:25.930
right now it's good to see that we're

1:16:23.410,1:16:28.540
moving forward with rejuvenating that

1:16:25.930,1:16:30.910
area it's I can see a lot of positive

1:16:28.540,1:16:32.260
things happening so supported entirely

1:16:30.910,1:16:34.930
Josh and I've been working together in

1:16:32.260,1:16:40.590
that Drake area for a year now I love it

1:16:34.930,1:16:40.590
keep it up synergy

1:16:43.570,1:16:47.960
synergy they've done shelling from our

1:16:45.710,1:16:50.630
mayor so yeah they teach you that a mere

1:16:47.960,1:16:52.640
code on the proposed connection fee

1:16:50.630,1:16:54.500
ordinance for the little four mile trunk

1:16:52.640,1:16:59.239
sewer benefited District Council

1:16:54.500,1:17:00.830
communication number 19 - double O 1a is

1:16:59.239,1:17:03.770
the first consideration the ordinance

1:17:00.830,1:17:07.820
above will open the hearing anybody here

1:17:03.770,1:17:12.410
to speak to come on up give us your name

1:17:07.820,1:17:15.980
and address and give us your import

1:17:12.410,1:17:19.610
please Jeff Klinenberg 29 17 northeast

1:17:15.980,1:17:24.560
56 this has a clarification questions I

1:17:19.610,1:17:27.680
guess this cost is connected to connect

1:17:24.560,1:17:31.790
to the sewer if we do that our we fund

1:17:27.680,1:17:35.450
voluntarily enacting to Des Moines when

1:17:31.790,1:17:39.020
we connect to the sewer if they are

1:17:35.450,1:17:41.470
adjacent yes if you're armed if you in

1:17:39.020,1:17:44.870
your back yard would be adjacent right

1:17:41.470,1:17:47.270
the the ordinance provides that you

1:17:44.870,1:17:48.890
would waive any objection to annexation

1:17:47.270,1:17:50.570
so it's off to go through the normal

1:17:48.890,1:17:53.200
process but you would not be allowed to

1:17:50.570,1:17:55.640
objected to the anything okay

1:17:53.200,1:17:57.590
these I thought the three and a half

1:17:55.640,1:18:00.230
percent interest rate appliance - what

1:17:57.590,1:18:01.910
if I wait 10 years to connect does that

1:18:00.230,1:18:04.460
interest accruing and then it cost us

1:18:01.910,1:18:06.790
that much higher then so that $4,000

1:18:04.460,1:18:12.020
have changes in the ordinance does

1:18:06.790,1:18:14.180
escalate - okay it's loose its 4,000

1:18:12.020,1:18:18.770
something Creek your family cares that

1:18:14.180,1:18:20.960
paraded there are some accommodations

1:18:18.770,1:18:23.540
for smaller properties I'm not exactly

1:18:20.960,1:18:25.040
from there with the formula on that that

1:18:23.540,1:18:27.650
we

1:18:25.040,1:18:31.800
okay so you're thinking it probably is

1:18:27.650,1:18:33.120
prorated partially for it I don't know

1:18:31.800,1:18:34.920
how the home you'll break families up

1:18:33.120,1:18:36.960
two times anyone know and staff where I

1:18:34.920,1:18:39.660
know there's exceptions Brooks

1:18:36.960,1:18:41.070
exceptionally smaller parcels but I

1:18:39.660,1:18:42.390
think in your case you would want to

1:18:41.070,1:18:46.310
expect go later

1:18:42.390,1:18:48.420
right this way it's yet like point a to

1:18:46.310,1:18:49.980
thinking that might be charged the full

1:18:48.420,1:18:51.669
acre that I might be I don't know that

1:18:49.980,1:18:53.709
they could come up

1:18:51.669,1:18:57.249
do we know but I think this is detail

1:18:53.709,1:19:00.280
that we're guessing at idea I'd like I'm

1:18:57.249,1:19:02.349
sure what I'm I need I'm queasy about

1:19:00.280,1:19:04.300
moving this one without any move on if I

1:19:02.349,1:19:06.519
saw my home at five years we'll the

1:19:04.300,1:19:11.590
buyer or me as a seller be forced to

1:19:06.519,1:19:13.809
connect at that point say again if you'd

1:19:11.590,1:19:15.789
be Celsius property in the next five

1:19:13.809,1:19:17.919
years or would when it'd be forced

1:19:15.789,1:19:20.590
either upon sale or the new one to

1:19:17.919,1:19:23.349
connect to it at that time no it would

1:19:20.590,1:19:24.909
still be the existing owners choice

1:19:23.349,1:19:28.840
what cash the next owner without that

1:19:24.909,1:19:30.519
choice okay finally it appears that at

1:19:28.840,1:19:32.800
least for one point seven acres involved

1:19:30.519,1:19:35.619
there's only about a three to four dozen

1:19:32.800,1:19:37.510
existing houses so it's being done for a

1:19:35.619,1:19:40.570
new development open up those open areas

1:19:37.510,1:19:41.949
obviously as he developments grow and

1:19:40.570,1:19:43.959
seem to become part of Des Moines

1:19:41.949,1:19:46.599
if I become surrounded by the moines

1:19:43.959,1:19:50.039
property then will I be involuntarily

1:19:46.599,1:19:54.209
annexed so that would take a vote that

1:19:50.039,1:19:58.090
would take a vote of the communities

1:19:54.209,1:19:59.979
understand that this project is also an

1:19:58.090,1:20:03.130
opportunity for existing homes like

1:19:59.979,1:20:06.130
yourself to connect on by choice

1:20:03.130,1:20:10.929
so we oftentimes do have property owners

1:20:06.130,1:20:13.539
that their septic tanks yeah sewers fail

1:20:10.929,1:20:15.760
and and so this is a benefit not only

1:20:13.539,1:20:18.399
for new construction but also for the

1:20:15.760,1:20:20.400
existing at that point right that's all

1:20:18.399,1:20:22.800
the hell thank you

1:20:20.400,1:20:28.250
all right do you need answers to that

1:20:22.800,1:20:33.590
you feel before you would access to the

1:20:28.250,1:20:39.180
prorated part well the whole concept of

1:20:33.590,1:20:43.260
the connection in the fee I think there

1:20:39.180,1:20:44.190
- I think I get it yeah I didn't you get

1:20:43.260,1:20:48.150
it okay you're good

1:20:44.190,1:20:51.390
next speaker you just answered my

1:20:48.150,1:20:54.320
question I live I'm Larry Zimmer 29 18

1:20:51.390,1:20:57.000
or theast 56 I'm his next door neighbor

1:20:54.320,1:21:00.630
having spent an obscene amount of money

1:20:57.000,1:21:02.580
and repair and updating mine what kind

1:21:00.630,1:21:05.670
of repercussions am I going to have but

1:21:02.580,1:21:08.070
if I do not want to connect because as

1:21:05.670,1:21:12.120
far as I know I'm up to date within the

1:21:08.070,1:21:14.160
last three years I don't know the depth

1:21:12.120,1:21:15.840
of my laterals but just two feet guess

1:21:14.160,1:21:21.540
what happened two years ago when the

1:21:15.840,1:21:24.240
frost went down four feet it froze up so

1:21:21.540,1:21:27.840
all I'm asking is if I do not connect

1:21:24.240,1:21:32.480
what kind of repercussions am I gonna

1:21:27.840,1:21:32.480
get into I'm not aware of any the idea

1:21:32.960,1:21:38.970
the idea is if you choose to connect

1:21:36.570,1:21:42.030
here's what happens okay so I can choose

1:21:38.970,1:21:43.560
not to as long write it like this

1:21:42.030,1:21:48.469
that's all I want to know fucking

1:21:43.560,1:21:52.280
facility Thank You Larry

1:21:48.469,1:21:57.140
all right see no one else counsel and he

1:21:52.280,1:22:02.920
comments I wouldn't move item 55 m55 a

1:21:57.140,1:22:02.920
and 55 a any waves

1:22:03.500,1:22:06.680
seven yes

1:22:09.260,1:22:16.220
at in 56 on the lower oak and Highland

1:22:13.610,1:22:17.540
Park sewer separation phase three

1:22:16.220,1:22:19.070
resolution proving the plans

1:22:17.540,1:22:20.650
specifications form of contract

1:22:19.070,1:22:22.940
documents engineer assessment and

1:22:20.650,1:22:28.190
designating the lowest responsible

1:22:22.940,1:22:30.950
bidder as J&K contracting LLC Jeremy

1:22:28.190,1:22:34.790
Feldman president and Bill I know you'll

1:22:30.950,1:22:36.739
appreciate the number four million seven

1:22:34.790,1:22:38.750
hundred and forty seven thousand four

1:22:36.739,1:22:40.280
hundred and seventy four dollars and

1:22:38.750,1:22:43.700
seventy four cents

1:22:40.280,1:22:46.880
Council communication number 19-0 one

1:22:43.700,1:22:48.560
set six of a is approving the contract

1:22:46.880,1:22:50.989
in the bond and permission to sublet

1:22:48.560,1:22:52.190
let's go ahead and open it up and see if

1:22:50.989,1:22:54.400
there's anyone here to speak to this

1:22:52.190,1:22:54.400
item

1:22:55.840,1:23:04.420
all right seeing none

1:22:59.950,1:23:13.530
shoes comment anybody Bill's got his cup

1:23:04.420,1:23:13.530
I was over 74 cents one item 56 and 56 a

1:23:14.100,1:23:19.060
and mr. Mary you're right I think what

1:23:16.600,1:23:22.060
he has set a new standard here not only

1:23:19.060,1:23:24.160
did we not round off not only we just

1:23:22.060,1:23:27.520
round off the dimes

1:23:24.160,1:23:29.440
we have pennies in here now 4.7 million

1:23:27.520,1:23:34.230
dollars and you have to have 74 extra

1:23:29.440,1:23:38.170
cents here's a cap let's help them out

1:23:34.230,1:23:41.200
you sort of like the way the flow work

1:23:38.170,1:23:45.400
with the numbers didn't yet I like it

1:23:41.200,1:23:50.670
because it's for 47 47 or that's I liked

1:23:45.400,1:23:55.120
enough 47 through the rule at 77 yeah 47

1:23:50.670,1:23:57.340
7 yes start yeah four million all right

1:23:55.120,1:23:59.590
item 57 on the four-mile Community

1:23:57.340,1:24:01.900
Center window replacement proving the

1:23:59.590,1:24:03.040
plans specifications form of contract

1:24:01.900,1:24:04.930
documents engineer's estimate

1:24:03.040,1:24:09.210
designating the lowest responsible

1:24:04.930,1:24:11.350
bidder is JPG Company LLC Jared Geiss

1:24:09.210,1:24:13.300
president sixty eight thousand nine

1:24:11.350,1:24:16.180
hundred dollars council communication

1:24:13.300,1:24:18.220
number nineteen dash zero one four days

1:24:16.180,1:24:22.480
of proving the contract and bond and

1:24:18.220,1:24:25.860
permission to sublet item 57 let's go

1:24:22.480,1:24:28.600
ahead and open it up is there anybody

1:24:25.860,1:24:30.550
here to speak to this item window

1:24:28.600,1:24:37.300
replacement at the four-mile community

1:24:30.550,1:24:40.410
center seeing none I will move item 57

1:24:37.300,1:24:40.410
and 57

1:24:45.270,1:24:53.440
seven yes item 58 on the police academy

1:24:51.130,1:24:55.480
window replacements resolution proven

1:24:53.440,1:24:56.739
plans specifications form of contract

1:24:55.480,1:24:58.900
documents engineer's estimate

1:24:56.739,1:25:01.090
designating the lowest responsible

1:24:58.900,1:25:04.570
bidder is mid-american glazing systems

1:25:01.090,1:25:06.429
inc Daniel D Madden president

1:25:04.570,1:25:08.110
eighty-seven thousand seven hundred

1:25:06.429,1:25:09.329
counts communication number nineteen

1:25:08.110,1:25:12.280
density

1:25:09.329,1:25:15.369
0:08 a is approving the contract and the

1:25:12.280,1:25:17.079
bond let's go ahead and open up and see

1:25:15.369,1:25:19.929
if anybody is here that would like to

1:25:17.079,1:25:20.829
make comment on the windows at the

1:25:19.929,1:25:24.789
police academy

1:25:20.829,1:25:34.420
I see no mr. Merrill above fifty eight

1:25:24.789,1:25:36.820
and fifty eight a seven yes mr. manager

1:25:34.420,1:25:40.329
these window replacements damage or

1:25:36.820,1:25:42.449
these failing windows aged and failing

1:25:40.329,1:25:48.940
age okay

1:25:42.449,1:25:51.340
it's been there a while now 59 on the

1:25:48.940,1:25:52.900
principal Park Cub Club reroofing

1:25:51.340,1:25:54.699
resolution improving the plans

1:25:52.900,1:25:56.520
specifications form of contract

1:25:54.699,1:25:58.719
documents engineers estimate and

1:25:56.520,1:26:01.480
designating the lowest responsible

1:25:58.719,1:26:04.750
bidder as rubber roofing systems inc

1:26:01.480,1:26:06.460
david AKC president ninety four thousand

1:26:04.750,1:26:10.090
four hundred dollars council

1:26:06.460,1:26:12.610
communication number 19 - zero zero nine

1:26:10.090,1:26:14.739
a is approving the contract in the bond

1:26:12.610,1:26:17.530
let's go ahead and open it up see if

1:26:14.739,1:26:22.809
there's anybody here to come in on this

1:26:17.530,1:26:26.610
is my gardener here a say none on date

1:26:22.809,1:26:26.610
59 59 a

1:26:32.180,1:26:41.310
good company a roofing system 7 yes they

1:26:36.030,1:26:43.710
do good job this is it 2016 on the

1:26:41.310,1:26:46.110
University Avenue improvements from 55th

1:26:43.710,1:26:48.090
Street to 63rd Street resolution

1:26:46.110,1:26:50.730
approving the plans specifications form

1:26:48.090,1:26:53.040
of contract documents engineers estimate

1:26:50.730,1:26:56.490
and designating the lowest responsible

1:26:53.040,1:26:58.380
bidder as TK concrete Inc Tony Jay

1:26:56.490,1:27:00.360
premier president of seven hundred and

1:26:58.380,1:27:03.090
sixty-five thousand four hundred and

1:27:00.360,1:27:06.690
eight dollars and thirty cents council

1:27:03.090,1:27:09.450
communication number 19 - zero one eight

1:27:06.690,1:27:12.300
a is approving the contract and bond and

1:27:09.450,1:27:16.110
permission to sublet let's go ahead and

1:27:12.300,1:27:18.690
open the hearing on this item anybody

1:27:16.110,1:27:24.170
here to speak regarding the University

1:27:18.690,1:27:28.710
Avenue improvements seeing none council

1:27:24.170,1:27:31.200
I'd move item 68 just wanna give a shout

1:27:28.710,1:27:33.840
out to engineering they did a great job

1:27:31.200,1:27:36.510
with community meetings an open house

1:27:33.840,1:27:39.510
people were allowed to give input talk

1:27:36.510,1:27:42.180
about it express their concerns I think

1:27:39.510,1:27:43.200
they did a great job a lot of times the

1:27:42.180,1:27:45.300
engineering gets pulled in the

1:27:43.200,1:27:47.900
crosshairs at this time I was really

1:27:45.300,1:27:52.200
proud of it it really worked great and I

1:27:47.900,1:27:55.020
need $0.30 guys can help me out bill I

1:27:52.200,1:27:58.140
appreciate the project I'm not I'm not

1:27:55.020,1:28:00.930
keen on the one who's doing the work and

1:27:58.140,1:28:02.550
so I will be a no vote here but I was

1:28:00.930,1:28:05.520
gonna ask Miss Mary you appreciate the

1:28:02.550,1:28:10.140
project and and all the work that's

1:28:05.520,1:28:11.910
being done over there and I'll use this

1:28:10.140,1:28:17.420
opportunity to talk about the synergy

1:28:11.910,1:28:20.370
and University a you know this is

1:28:17.420,1:28:22.470
hopefully something that is part of a

1:28:20.370,1:28:24.210
larger change in the way University is

1:28:22.470,1:28:27.480
going to be working and then it next few

1:28:24.210,1:28:31.480
years and that will include connecting

1:28:27.480,1:28:34.480
with our neighbors West as well as

1:28:31.480,1:28:37.180
thinking about how how it goes to the

1:28:34.480,1:28:39.400
east in our our friends in the Drake

1:28:37.180,1:28:42.880
neighborhood and Drake University as

1:28:39.400,1:28:43.960
well and so I I look forward to seeing

1:28:42.880,1:28:46.750
everything that's going to be happening

1:28:43.960,1:28:50.260
along that corridor in the in the coming

1:28:46.750,1:28:51.610
years we've been putting a good chunk of

1:28:50.260,1:28:53.860
work in and I think we're gonna start

1:28:51.610,1:28:56.440
seeing results and I look forward to

1:28:53.860,1:28:57.670
that and this is one piece of that it's

1:28:56.440,1:29:02.430
gonna be exciting time to be on

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University I move sixty and sixty a

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success one note

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alright let's note that it's 6:03 and we

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end our hearings it takes us back to

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item 44 item 44 is from Milton Sud Brock

1:29:20.980,1:29:27.790
of 3021 Dean Avenue to speak regarding

1:29:24.280,1:29:34.780
having police escort for the bait toy

1:29:27.790,1:29:37.210
run in October actually a my name is

1:29:34.780,1:29:41.790
Scott sang Bush and I've been designated

1:29:37.210,1:29:46.020
to speak for such Scout sang Bush I'm at

1:29:41.790,1:29:46.020
3614 47th Street Des Moines

1:29:49.130,1:29:53.389
okay number Coleman yeah please are you

1:29:51.960,1:29:56.309
thank you

1:29:53.389,1:30:00.269
all right to receiving file mr. :

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yes is there one copy all in favor say

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aye

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yes I wait we might be short one we're

1:30:03.260,1:30:10.590
we're all wait one I'll make sure that

1:30:06.269,1:30:12.300
everybody gets Moses here so 101 you

1:30:10.590,1:30:16.829
take what somebody move it Josh smile

1:30:12.300,1:30:17.909
cheer yep and we know also that one of

1:30:16.829,1:30:22.760
each we're neighbors

1:30:17.909,1:30:22.760
Scott I live on 40

1:30:41.539,1:30:49.940
a shot Thank You mayor councilmembers

1:30:45.289,1:30:53.000
thank you for your attention for those

1:30:49.940,1:30:54.440
of you don't know if eight is Iowa State

1:30:53.000,1:30:57.349
motorcycle rights organization of

1:30:54.440,1:30:59.360
brotherhood aimed toward education for

1:30:57.349,1:31:01.519
the past 35 years of eight of Iowa

1:30:59.360,1:31:03.739
district four has hosted an annual toy

1:31:01.519,1:31:06.590
run parade this is an event that many

1:31:03.739,1:31:08.809
look forward to participating in and

1:31:06.590,1:31:12.289
many more have come to depend on and

1:31:08.809,1:31:13.909
Pope warned in Dallas counties those who

1:31:12.289,1:31:16.010
depend on our parade our various

1:31:13.909,1:31:18.230
agencies that provide shelter and

1:31:16.010,1:31:20.630
services to women children and families

1:31:18.230,1:31:23.000
under a variety of circumstances these

1:31:20.630,1:31:25.730
agencies have budgets they must operate

1:31:23.000,1:31:27.519
under and extras like toys gifts and

1:31:25.730,1:31:30.699
clothing for the children for Christmas

1:31:27.519,1:31:33.440
has to fall to donations by the public

1:31:30.699,1:31:35.659
debate of Iowa District four has stepped

1:31:33.440,1:31:39.139
up for 35 years to help provide for

1:31:35.659,1:31:41.119
these children and families many aspects

1:31:39.139,1:31:42.250
of the toy on parade have changed over

1:31:41.119,1:31:44.389
the years

1:31:42.250,1:31:46.670
but the one thing that remains constant

1:31:44.389,1:31:48.590
is our desire to continue in the role of

1:31:46.670,1:31:50.000
helping make Christmas happier for the

1:31:48.590,1:31:53.420
underprivileged children within our

1:31:50.000,1:31:56.840
district we will be hosting our 36th

1:31:53.420,1:31:59.119
annual toy run parade October 13th 2019

1:31:56.840,1:32:01.940
once again starting from the State

1:31:59.119,1:32:04.610
Capitol Complex parking lot 15 each year

1:32:01.940,1:32:06.679
as we plan a parade of motorcyclists who

1:32:04.610,1:32:08.929
ride in transport donated toys to a

1:32:06.679,1:32:13.550
pre-planned ending dust desert of

1:32:08.929,1:32:17.449
destination excuse me for that parade we

1:32:13.550,1:32:19.340
must plan a route and each year we have

1:32:17.449,1:32:20.780
been assisted by the City of Des Moines

1:32:19.340,1:32:24.710
police traffic control unit and

1:32:20.780,1:32:26.809
confirming streets we want to use will

1:32:24.710,1:32:28.849
not be under construction and that

1:32:26.809,1:32:32.659
off-duty officers provide escort and

1:32:28.849,1:32:34.940
traffic control for the parade we pay a

1:32:32.659,1:32:37.489
minimum of two hours of wages for each

1:32:34.940,1:32:41.630
officer at a rate of one and a half

1:32:37.489,1:32:44.000
times their normal hourly wage while we

1:32:41.630,1:32:46.489
are deeply grateful for the safe they

1:32:44.000,1:32:50.539
provide our riders that they provide our

1:32:46.489,1:32:53.179
riders that are traveling for the cause

1:32:50.539,1:32:55.490
the cost associated with this aspect of

1:32:53.179,1:32:58.100
our annual event can negatively have

1:32:55.490,1:32:58.700
depending on our circumstances in a

1:32:58.100,1:33:01.610
given year

1:32:58.700,1:33:06.050
it can also dictate where we ride and

1:33:01.610,1:33:09.230
the distance if sponsorship of the event

1:33:06.050,1:33:11.270
falls short of the expenses or if there

1:33:09.230,1:33:12.950
are bad weather year that impacts

1:33:11.270,1:33:15.230
participation which results in less

1:33:12.950,1:33:18.440
merchandise sales that help to offset

1:33:15.230,1:33:21.370
expenses we can actually lose money in

1:33:18.440,1:33:24.980
our attempt to aid those less fortunate

1:33:21.370,1:33:27.050
so we are asking if it would be possible

1:33:24.980,1:33:29.930
for the City of Des Moines to possibly

1:33:27.050,1:33:32.870
consider some sort of credit beyond the

1:33:29.930,1:33:36.410
standard street use permit cost or even

1:33:32.870,1:33:39.800
look to incorporate into the city budget

1:33:36.410,1:33:43.130
an allowance of some sort to decrease or

1:33:39.800,1:33:45.080
completely offset the expense abate of

1:33:43.130,1:33:50.080
Iowa district 4 pays for the police

1:33:45.080,1:33:53.290
services for this event in earlier years

1:33:50.080,1:33:55.520
we saw a credit in the amount of $1000

1:33:53.290,1:33:58.790
applied against the cost of police

1:33:55.520,1:34:01.160
services but that ceased in 2012 it was

1:33:58.790,1:34:07.120
then replaced with a credit equal to the

1:34:01.160,1:34:11.180
cost of the street use permit now $250

1:34:07.120,1:34:14.360
when considering our request please keep

1:34:11.180,1:34:17.330
in mind this information of which I have

1:34:14.360,1:34:19.340
handed you we partnered with five

1:34:17.330,1:34:22.550
agencies in the tri-county area in our

1:34:19.340,1:34:24.920
district folk warned in Dallas gift

1:34:22.550,1:34:27.020
cards bicycles batteries and 60 to 70

1:34:24.920,1:34:29.410
boxes of toys games puzzles books

1:34:27.020,1:34:31.940
clothing etc valued at approximately

1:34:29.410,1:34:34.130
thirteen thousand and fifteen thousand

1:34:31.940,1:34:35.870
dollars are divided and dispersed to

1:34:34.130,1:34:37.930
these agencies each year through the

1:34:35.870,1:34:41.350
generosity of our parade event

1:34:37.930,1:34:44.300
participants past year's parade expenses

1:34:41.350,1:34:47.090
KY Bo's ninety to one hundred dollars as

1:34:44.300,1:34:48.920
required to be provided at the Capitol

1:34:47.090,1:34:51.380
Complex each year for parade

1:34:48.920,1:34:54.500
starting-point Street use permit

1:34:51.380,1:34:56.810
application fees two hundred to two

1:34:54.500,1:34:58.460
hundred fifty dollars per year escort

1:34:56.810,1:35:01.400
the traffic control by local police

1:34:58.460,1:35:06.200
both des moines and other joining cities

1:35:01.400,1:35:08.210
have ranged from 900 to $2,200 per year

1:35:06.200,1:35:09.229
depending on the route taken for the

1:35:08.210,1:35:12.679
parades

1:35:09.229,1:35:20.709
personnel needed to provide the escorts

1:35:12.679,1:35:20.709
and traffic controls this has long been

1:35:26.010,1:35:32.730
there's a long been a labor of love it

1:35:30.190,1:35:32.730
always will be

1:35:32.760,1:35:42.370
we are only inviting you to be a part of

1:35:36.490,1:35:43.470
this labor any questions that I might be

1:35:42.370,1:35:47.080
able to sir

1:35:43.470,1:35:52.300
thanks for coming down anybody have any

1:35:47.080,1:35:53.710
questions for Scott I think that yep we

1:35:52.300,1:35:56.140
probably want to receive and file your

1:35:53.710,1:35:59.770
comments and this module must receive a

1:35:56.140,1:36:02.260
file to you to take a look not only at

1:35:59.770,1:36:04.350
this but some of the others and let's

1:36:02.260,1:36:08.620
talk about what we do and how we do it

1:36:04.350,1:36:10.990
and what impacts there might be moving

1:36:08.620,1:36:12.340
forward and certainly we always salute

1:36:10.990,1:36:18.970
everybody that's doing good things for

1:36:12.340,1:36:21.370
our or our city and our citizens so okay

1:36:18.970,1:36:21.940
well folks again thank you for your

1:36:21.370,1:36:26.520
attention

1:36:21.940,1:36:26.520
thank you thank you ride safely

1:36:27.939,1:36:37.300
anybody have a want to say that's her

1:36:31.909,1:36:44.300
motion I'll move as the mayor outlined

1:36:37.300,1:36:45.469
seven yes all right item 45 is an

1:36:44.300,1:36:47.449
authorization to proceed with

1:36:45.469,1:36:49.820
acquisition of necessary property

1:36:47.449,1:36:52.760
interests for the Grayslake Park

1:36:49.820,1:36:56.979
expansion project council communication

1:36:52.760,1:36:56.979
number 19-7

1:36:58.119,1:37:03.469
let's go ahead and open it up

1:37:00.229,1:37:17.269
I'll move item 45 seeing no one the

1:37:03.469,1:37:19.729
items been moved sorry seven yes all

1:37:17.269,1:37:22.090
right let's move to 46 these are items

1:37:19.729,1:37:24.380
regarding proposed agreement for

1:37:22.090,1:37:27.280
transcription services council

1:37:24.380,1:37:30.229
communication number 19 - - below for a

1:37:27.280,1:37:31.969
civilian reduction in force of the Des

1:37:30.229,1:37:33.860
Moines police department and be a

1:37:31.969,1:37:37.159
three-year contract with three

1:37:33.860,1:37:41.630
successive one-year renewal options with

1:37:37.159,1:37:43.880
net transcripts Inc Susan summer CEO to

1:37:41.630,1:37:47.209
provide transcription services of police

1:37:43.880,1:37:50.809
audio records there were five proposals

1:37:47.209,1:37:53.959
received that's anybody have any

1:37:50.809,1:37:59.019
comments on this one chief

1:37:53.959,1:37:59.019
um the salamu 46 a nd

1:38:04.780,1:38:13.270
seven yes I'm 47 agreement for sharing

1:38:10.750,1:38:16.330
of gaming revenue with Polk County and

1:38:13.270,1:38:20.800
Prairie Meadows council communication

1:38:16.330,1:38:24.310
number 19 - 0 to 5 anybody to talk to

1:38:20.800,1:38:28.080
this item the mayor and I were at their

1:38:24.310,1:38:29.890
30th celebration Scott was there -

1:38:28.080,1:38:32.380
actually there's a good story there

1:38:29.890,1:38:34.750
don't know if we had a shorter meeting I

1:38:32.380,1:38:37.390
tell you it's God still trying to figure

1:38:34.750,1:38:39.520
out what happened yeah yeah they had a

1:38:37.390,1:38:42.400
guest that was on America's Got Talent

1:38:39.520,1:38:44.710
the what were their names Skylar vines

1:38:42.400,1:38:47.920
the clairvoyance in fact they're on this

1:38:44.710,1:38:51.880
week for their Champions reunion thing

1:38:47.920,1:38:56.770
and they brought Scott on stage and read

1:38:51.880,1:38:58.690
his mind he was thinking gosh I can't

1:38:56.770,1:39:00.870
believe Coleman in the mayor here yeah

1:38:58.690,1:39:03.820
well it'll make for an interesting

1:39:00.870,1:39:11.400
personnel review this year and now that

1:39:03.820,1:39:11.400
we know what he's really thinking the

1:39:12.540,1:39:19.630
the prairie meadows agreement has been

1:39:15.760,1:39:22.300
an amazing benefit to the city we give

1:39:19.630,1:39:24.340
up a lot you know I think the mayor and

1:39:22.300,1:39:27.820
I were the only ones around when we had

1:39:24.340,1:39:31.000
serious interest from people from 63rd

1:39:27.820,1:39:32.590
and highway five to property that we

1:39:31.000,1:39:35.650
talked about today on the northeast side

1:39:32.590,1:39:38.800
of Des Moines with interest of a casino

1:39:35.650,1:39:41.080
and we gave up that to essentially go

1:39:38.800,1:39:42.940
into a partnership with Polk County they

1:39:41.080,1:39:45.070
continue to respect that Scott did an

1:39:42.940,1:39:46.930
outstanding job representing our

1:39:45.070,1:39:49.330
interest this year in that negotiation

1:39:46.930,1:39:51.640
but well as you recall even an interest

1:39:49.330,1:39:57.790
in putting one on the river and downtown

1:39:51.640,1:39:58.280
yes yes nope nobody like that except for

1:39:57.790,1:40:00.580
me

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[Laughter]

1:40:00.580,1:40:05.020
so maybe Scott thank you very much for

1:40:02.980,1:40:08.200
representing us I'll move the agreement

1:40:05.020,1:40:10.510
this creates an amazing revenue stream

1:40:08.200,1:40:13.720
for us putting it into streets and roads

1:40:10.510,1:40:17.910
and bridges fantastic agreement did work

1:40:13.720,1:40:17.910
good job I just got mayor thank you

1:40:18.060,1:40:26.080
they're seven yes all right

1:40:23.530,1:40:29.920
everybody unless there's something else

1:40:26.080,1:40:34.150
that somebody wants to bring up we're

1:40:29.920,1:40:35.200
moving forward in the new year and mr.

1:40:34.150,1:40:36.820
manager did you

1:40:35.200,1:40:40.180
you can adjourn I was just going to

1:40:36.820,1:40:42.100
explain something we can adjourn all

1:40:40.180,1:40:46.840
right some of us are going to go home

1:40:42.100,1:40:48.070
and Scott's gonna stay here thank you

1:40:46.840,1:40:50.740
all for attending yep

1:40:48.070,1:40:54.070
council they know we're adjourned thank

1:40:50.740,1:40:56.200
you sir the handouts are the same as the

1:40:54.070,1:41:00.100
public will receive tomorrow at the

1:40:56.200,1:41:03.360
finance and budget should we do that

1:41:00.100,1:41:03.360
those between the budget

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