How I use sonar to navigate the world
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0:08 - 0:12I was born with bilateral retinoblastoma,
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0:12 - 0:14retinal cancer.
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0:15 - 0:18My right eye was removed
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0:18 - 0:21at seven months of age.
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0:21 - 0:25I was 13 months
when they removed my left eye. -
0:26 - 0:31The first thing I did
upon awakening from that last surgery -
0:31 - 0:35was to climb out of my crib
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0:35 - 0:39and begin wandering around
the intensive care nursery, -
0:40 - 0:43probably looking for the one
who did this to me. -
0:43 - 0:45(Laughter)
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0:47 - 0:50Evidently, wandering around the nursery
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0:50 - 0:54was not a problem for me without eyes.
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0:54 - 0:56The problem was getting caught.
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0:58 - 1:01It's impressions about blindness
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1:01 - 1:04that are far more threatening
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1:04 - 1:08to blind people than the blindness itself.
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1:09 - 1:13Think for a moment about
your own impressions of blindness. -
1:13 - 1:17Think about your reactions
when I first came onto the stage, -
1:17 - 1:21or the prospect of your own blindness,
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1:21 - 1:25or a loved one going blind.
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1:25 - 1:31The terror is incomprehensible
to most of us, -
1:31 - 1:33because blindness
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1:33 - 1:39is thought to epitomize ignorance
and unawareness, -
1:39 - 1:47hapless exposure to the ravages
of the dark unknown. -
1:47 - 1:48How poetic.
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1:49 - 1:53Fortunately for me,
my parents were not poetic. -
1:53 - 1:55They were pragmatic.
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1:55 - 2:01They understood that ignorance and fear
were but matters of the mind, -
2:01 - 2:05and the mind is adaptable.
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2:05 - 2:09They believed that I should grow up
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2:09 - 2:14to enjoy the same freedoms
and responsibilities as everyone else. -
2:14 - 2:16In their own words, I would move out --
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2:16 - 2:19which I did when I was 18 --
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2:19 - 2:21I will pay taxes --
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2:21 - 2:24thanks --
(Laughter) -- -
2:26 - 2:31and they knew the difference
between love and fear. -
2:31 - 2:36Fear immobilizes us
in the face of challenge. -
2:36 - 2:39They knew that blindness
would pose a significant challenge. -
2:39 - 2:42I was not raised with fear.
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2:42 - 2:45They put my freedom first before all else,
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2:45 - 2:49because that is what love does.
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2:49 - 2:53Now, moving forward,
how do I manage today? -
2:54 - 2:57The world is a much larger nursery.
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2:57 - 3:01Fortunately, I have my trusty long cane,
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3:01 - 3:04longer than the canes
used by most blind people. -
3:04 - 3:07I call it my freedom staff.
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3:07 - 3:09It will keep me, for example,
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3:09 - 3:15from making an undignified
departure from the stage. (Laughter) -
3:15 - 3:17I do see that cliff edge.
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3:18 - 3:22They warned us earlier
that every imaginable mishap -
3:22 - 3:25has occurred to speakers
up here on the stage. -
3:25 - 3:27I don't care to set a new precedent.
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3:28 - 3:30But beyond that,
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3:30 - 3:34many of you may have heard me clicking
as I came onto the stage -- -
3:34 - 3:35(Clicking) --
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3:35 - 3:36with my tongue.
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3:36 - 3:40Those are flashes of sound
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3:40 - 3:45that go out and reflect
from surfaces all around me, -
3:45 - 3:46just like a bat's sonar,
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3:46 - 3:52and return to me with patterns,
with pieces of information, -
3:52 - 3:54much as light does for you.
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3:55 - 3:59And my brain, thanks to my parents,
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3:59 - 4:04has been activated to form images
in my visual cortex, -
4:04 - 4:07which we now call the imaging system,
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4:07 - 4:11from those patterns of information,
much as your brain does. -
4:11 - 4:14I call this process flash sonar.
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4:15 - 4:20It is how I have learned to see
through my blindness, -
4:20 - 4:23to navigate my journey
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4:23 - 4:28through the dark unknowns
of my own challenges, -
4:28 - 4:31which has earned me the moniker
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4:31 - 4:35"the remarkable Batman."
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4:35 - 4:38Now, Batman I will accept.
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4:38 - 4:41Bats are cool. Batman is cool.
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4:41 - 4:47But I was not raised to think of myself
as in any way remarkable. -
4:48 - 4:52I have always regarded myself
much like anyone else -
4:52 - 4:57who navigates the dark unknowns
of their own challenges. -
4:57 - 5:01Is that so remarkable?
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5:01 - 5:04I do not use my eyes, I use my brain.
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5:05 - 5:07Now, someone, somewhere,
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5:07 - 5:11must think that's remarkable,
or I wouldn't be up here, -
5:11 - 5:14but let's consider this for a moment.
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5:15 - 5:18Everyone out there
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5:18 - 5:22who faces or who has ever
faced a challenge, -
5:22 - 5:24raise your hands.
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5:25 - 5:27Whoosh. Okay.
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5:27 - 5:30Lots of hands going up, a moment,
let me do a head count. -
5:30 - 5:33(Clicking)
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5:34 - 5:37This will take a while.
(Clicking) (Laughter) -
5:37 - 5:38Okay, lots of hands in the air.
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5:38 - 5:41Keep them up. I have an idea.
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5:41 - 5:46Those of you who use your brains
to navigate these challenges, -
5:46 - 5:49put your hands down.
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5:50 - 5:53Okay, anyone with your hands still up
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5:53 - 5:58has challenges of your own. (Laughter)
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5:58 - 6:01So we all face challenges,
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6:01 - 6:05and we all face the dark unknown,
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6:05 - 6:09which is endemic to most challenges,
which is what most of us fear, okay? -
6:09 - 6:13But we all have brains
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6:13 - 6:17that allow us, that activate to allow us
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6:17 - 6:23to navigate the journey
through these challenges. Okay? -
6:24 - 6:28Case in point: I came up here
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6:28 - 6:35and -- (Clicking) -- they wouldn't tell me
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6:35 - 6:38where the lectern was.
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6:38 - 6:41So you can't trust those TED folks.
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6:43 - 6:45"Find it yourself," they said.
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6:45 - 6:48So -- (Laughter)
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6:49 - 6:53And the feedback for the P.A. system
is no help at all. -
6:53 - 6:56So now I present to you a challenge.
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6:56 - 7:00So if you'd all close your eyes
for just a moment, okay? -
7:00 - 7:04And you're going to learn
a bit of flash sonar. -
7:04 - 7:05I'm going to make a sound.
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7:05 - 7:09I'm going to hold this panel in front
of me, but I'm not going to move it. -
7:09 - 7:11Just listen to the sound for a moment.
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7:13 - 7:19Shhhhhhhhhh.
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7:19 - 7:21Okay, nothing very interesting.
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7:21 - 7:24Now, listen to what happens
to that same exact sound -
7:24 - 7:26when I move the panel.
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7:27 - 7:33Shhhhhhhhhhh.
(Pitch getting higher and lower) -
7:38 - 7:42You do not know the power
of the dark side. -
7:42 - 7:43(Laughter)
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7:43 - 7:46I couldn't resist.
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7:48 - 7:50Okay, now keep your eyes closed
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7:50 - 7:52because, did you hear the difference?
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7:52 - 7:55Okay. Now, let's be sure.
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7:55 - 7:57For your challenge,
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7:57 - 8:02you tell me, just say "now"
when you hear the panel start to move. -
8:02 - 8:05Okay? We'll relax into this.
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8:08 - 8:12Shhhhhhh.
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8:12 - 8:14Audience: Now.
Daniel Kish: Good. Excellent. -
8:14 - 8:15Open your eyes.
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8:15 - 8:20All right. So just a few centimeters,
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8:20 - 8:22you would notice the difference.
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8:22 - 8:24You've experienced sonar.
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8:26 - 8:29You'd all make great blind people.
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8:29 - 8:31Let's have a look at what can happen
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8:31 - 8:35when this activation process
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8:35 - 8:39is given some time and attention.
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8:39 - 8:42(Video) Juan Ruiz: It's like
you guys can see with your eyes -
8:42 - 8:45and we can see with our ears.
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8:45 - 8:49Brian Bushway: It's not a matter
of enjoying it more or less, -
8:49 - 8:51it's about enjoying it differently.
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8:51 - 8:55Shawn Marsolais: It goes across.
DK: Yeah. -
8:55 - 8:58SM: And then it's gradually
coming back down again. -
8:58 - 9:00DK: Yes!
SM: That's amazing. -
9:00 - 9:04I can, like, see the car. Holy mother!
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9:10 - 9:12J. Louchart: I love being blind.
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9:12 - 9:16If I had the opportunity, honestly,
I wouldn't go back to being sighted. -
9:16 - 9:19JR: The bigger the goal,
the more obstacles you'll face, -
9:19 - 9:22and on the other side of that goal
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9:22 - 9:23is victory.
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9:23 - 9:29[In Italian]
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9:29 - 9:38(Applause)
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9:38 - 9:42DK: Now, do these people look terrified?
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9:42 - 9:44Not so much.
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9:44 - 9:47We have delivered activation training
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9:47 - 9:50to tens of thousands of blind
and sighted people from all backgrounds -
9:50 - 9:53in nearly 40 countries.
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9:53 - 9:57When blind people learn to see,
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9:57 - 10:00sighted people seem inspired
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10:00 - 10:05to want to learn to see their way
better, more clearly, with less fear, -
10:07 - 10:13because this exemplifies
the immense capacity within us all -
10:13 - 10:19to navigate any type of challenge,
through any form of darkness, -
10:19 - 10:22to discoveries unimagined
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10:22 - 10:28when we are activated.
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10:28 - 10:34I wish you all a most activating journey.
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10:34 - 10:35Thank you very much.
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10:35 - 10:43(Applause)
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10:44 - 10:46Chris Anderson: Daniel, my friend.
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10:46 - 10:51As I know you can see, it's
a spectacular standing ovation at TED. -
10:51 - 10:54Thank you for an extraordinary talk.
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10:54 - 11:00Just one more question about your world,
your inner world that you construct. -
11:00 - 11:05We think that we have things in our world
that you as a blind person don't have, -
11:05 - 11:07but what's your world like?
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11:07 - 11:10What do you have that we don't have?
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11:10 - 11:13DK: Three hundred and sixty-degree view,
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11:13 - 11:17so my sonar works about as well
behind me as it does in front of me. -
11:17 - 11:18It works around corners.
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11:18 - 11:21It works through surfaces.
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11:22 - 11:27Generally, it's kind of a fuzzy
three-dimensional geometry. -
11:27 - 11:31One of my students, who has now
become an instructor, -
11:31 - 11:34when he lost his vision,
after a few months -
11:34 - 11:36he was sitting in his three story house
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11:36 - 11:40and he realized that he could hear
everything going on throughout the house: -
11:40 - 11:45conversations, people in the kitchen,
people in the bathroom, -
11:45 - 11:47several floors away, several walls away.
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11:47 - 11:51He said it was something
like having x-ray vision. -
11:51 - 11:55CA: What do you picture
that you're in right now? -
11:55 - 11:58How do you picture this theater?
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11:58 - 12:03DK: Lots of loudspeakers, quite frankly.
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12:04 - 12:09It's interesting.
When people make a sound, -
12:09 - 12:14when they laugh, when they fidget,
when they take a drink or blow their nose -
12:14 - 12:17or whatever, I hear everything.
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12:17 - 12:20I hear every little movement
that every single person makes. -
12:20 - 12:23None of it really escapes my attention,
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12:23 - 12:24and then, from a sonar perspective,
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12:24 - 12:30the size of the room, the curvature
of the audience around the stage, -
12:30 - 12:34it's the height of the room.
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12:34 - 12:37Like I say, it's all that kind
of three-dimensional surface geometry -
12:37 - 12:39all around me.
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12:39 - 12:41CA: Well, Daniel, you have done
a spectacular job -
12:41 - 12:44of helping us all see the world
in a different way. -
12:44 - 12:46Thanks so much for that, truly.
DK: Thank you. -
12:46 - 12:50(Applause)
- Title:
- How I use sonar to navigate the world
- Speaker:
- Daniel Kish
- Description:
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Daniel Kish has been blind since he was 13 months old, but has learned to “see” using a form of echolocation. He clicks his tongue and sends out flashes of sound that bounce off surfaces in the environment and return to him, helping him to construct an understanding of the space around him. In a rousing talk, Kish demonstrates how this works and asks us to let go of our fear of the “dark unknown.”
- Video Language:
- English
- Team:
- closed TED
- Project:
- TEDTalks
- Duration:
- 13:03
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