Poverty isn't a lack of character; it's a lack of cash
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0:02 - 0:05I'd like to start with a simple question:
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0:06 - 0:10Why do the poor make
so many poor decisions? -
0:12 - 0:13I know it's a harsh question,
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0:13 - 0:15but take a look at the data.
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0:15 - 0:17The poor borrow more, save less,
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0:17 - 0:20smoke more, exercise less, drink more
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0:20 - 0:21and eat less healthfully.
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0:22 - 0:24Why?
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0:24 - 0:26Well, the standard explanation
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0:26 - 0:29was once summed up by the British
Prime Minister, Margaret Thatcher. -
0:29 - 0:33And she called poverty
"a personality defect." -
0:33 - 0:35(Laughter)
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0:35 - 0:37A lack of character, basically.
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0:37 - 0:41Now, I'm sure not many of you
would be so blunt. -
0:42 - 0:46But the idea that there's something
wrong with the poor themselves -
0:46 - 0:48is not restricted to Mrs. Thatcher.
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0:49 - 0:52Some of you may believe that the poor
should be held responsible -
0:53 - 0:54for their own mistakes.
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0:54 - 0:58And others may argue that we should
help them to make better decisions. -
0:59 - 1:02But the underlying assumption is the same:
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1:03 - 1:05there's something wrong with them.
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1:06 - 1:08If we could just change them,
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1:08 - 1:10if we could just teach them
how to live their lives, -
1:10 - 1:12if they would only listen.
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1:13 - 1:15And to be honest,
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1:15 - 1:18this was what I thought for a long time.
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1:19 - 1:21It was only a few years ago
that I discovered -
1:21 - 1:25that everything I thought I knew
about poverty was wrong. -
1:26 - 1:29It all started when I accidentally
stumbled upon a paper -
1:29 - 1:31by a few American psychologists.
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1:31 - 1:33They had traveled 8,000 miles,
all the way to India, -
1:33 - 1:35for a fascinating study.
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1:35 - 1:38And it was an experiment
with sugarcane farmers. -
1:39 - 1:42You should know that these farmers
collect about 60 percent -
1:42 - 1:44of their annual income all at once,
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1:44 - 1:46right after the harvest.
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1:46 - 1:50This means that they're relatively
poor one part of the year -
1:50 - 1:51and rich the other.
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1:53 - 1:57The researchers asked them to do
an IQ test before and after the harvest. -
1:58 - 2:02What they subsequently discovered
completely blew my mind. -
2:03 - 2:08The farmers scored much worse
on the test before the harvest. -
2:08 - 2:11The effects of living
in poverty, it turns out, -
2:11 - 2:14correspond to losing 14 points of IQ.
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2:14 - 2:16Now, to give you an idea,
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2:16 - 2:19that's comparable
to losing a night's sleep -
2:19 - 2:21or the effects of alcoholism.
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2:23 - 2:25A few months later,
I heard that Eldar Shafir, -
2:25 - 2:29a professor at Princeton University
and one of the authors of this study, -
2:29 - 2:31was coming over to Holland, where I live.
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2:31 - 2:32So we met up in Amsterdam
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2:32 - 2:36to talk about his revolutionary
new theory of poverty. -
2:36 - 2:38And I can sum it up in just two words:
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2:39 - 2:41scarcity mentality.
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2:43 - 2:45It turns out that people
behave differently -
2:45 - 2:47when they perceive a thing to be scarce.
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2:47 - 2:50And what that thing is
doesn't much matter -- -
2:50 - 2:53whether it's not enough time,
money or food. -
2:53 - 2:55You all know this feeling,
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2:55 - 2:57when you've got too much to do,
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2:57 - 2:59or when you've put off breaking for lunch
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2:59 - 3:00and your blood sugar takes a dive.
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3:00 - 3:03This narrows your focus
to your immediate lack -- -
3:03 - 3:05to the sandwich you've got to have now,
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3:05 - 3:08the meeting that's starting
in five minutes -
3:08 - 3:11or the bills that have
to be paid tomorrow. -
3:11 - 3:14So the long-term perspective
goes out the window. -
3:16 - 3:18You could compare it to a new computer
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3:18 - 3:21that's running 10 heavy programs at once.
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3:21 - 3:24It gets slower and slower, making errors.
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3:24 - 3:26Eventually, it freezes --
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3:26 - 3:28not because it's a bad computer,
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3:28 - 3:31but because it has too much to do at once.
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3:31 - 3:34The poor have the same problem.
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3:35 - 3:38They're not making dumb decisions
because they are dumb, -
3:38 - 3:40but because they're living in a context
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3:40 - 3:42in which anyone would make dumb decisions.
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3:43 - 3:45So suddenly I understood
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3:46 - 3:49why so many of our anti-poverty
programs don't work. -
3:51 - 3:55Investments in education, for example,
are often completely ineffective. -
3:55 - 3:58Poverty is not a lack of knowledge.
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3:59 - 4:01A recent analysis of 201 studies
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4:01 - 4:04on the effectiveness
of money-management training -
4:04 - 4:07came to the conclusion
that it has almost no effect at all. -
4:07 - 4:09Now, don't get me wrong --
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4:09 - 4:11this is not to say the poor
don't learn anything -- -
4:11 - 4:13they can come out wiser for sure.
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4:14 - 4:16But it's not enough.
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4:16 - 4:19Or as Professor Shafir told me,
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4:19 - 4:21"It's like teaching someone to swim
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4:21 - 4:24and then throwing them in a stormy sea."
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4:25 - 4:26I still remember sitting there,
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4:27 - 4:28perplexed.
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4:29 - 4:30And it struck me
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4:30 - 4:33that we could have figured
this all out decades ago. -
4:33 - 4:36I mean, these psychologists didn't need
any complicated brain scans; -
4:36 - 4:38they only had to measure the farmer's IQ,
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4:38 - 4:41and IQ tests were invented
more that 100 years ago. -
4:41 - 4:45Actually, I realized I had read about
the psychology of poverty before. -
4:46 - 4:49George Orwell, one of the greatest
writers who ever lived, -
4:49 - 4:52experienced poverty
firsthand in the 1920s. -
4:53 - 4:55"The essence of poverty,"
he wrote back then, -
4:55 - 4:58is that it "annihilates the future."
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4:59 - 5:01And he marveled at, quote,
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5:02 - 5:05"How people take it for granted
they have the right to preach at you -
5:05 - 5:06and pray over you
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5:06 - 5:09as soon as your income falls
below a certain level." -
5:09 - 5:13Now, those words are every bit
as resonant today. -
5:15 - 5:17The big question is, of course:
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5:17 - 5:18What can be done?
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5:19 - 5:21Modern economists have
a few solutions up their sleeves. -
5:21 - 5:23We could help the poor
with their paperwork -
5:23 - 5:26or send them a text message
to remind them to pay their bills. -
5:26 - 5:31This type of solution is hugely popular
with modern politicians, -
5:31 - 5:33mostly because,
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5:33 - 5:35well, they cost next to nothing.
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5:36 - 5:40These solutions are, I think,
a symbol of this era -
5:40 - 5:42in which we so often treat the symptoms,
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5:42 - 5:44but ignore the underlying cause.
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5:46 - 5:47So I wonder:
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5:48 - 5:51Why don't we just change the context
in which the poor live? -
5:52 - 5:54Or, going back to our computer analogy:
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5:54 - 5:56Why keep tinkering around
with the software -
5:56 - 6:00when we can easily solve the problem
by installing some extra memory instead? -
6:00 - 6:04At that point, Professor Shafir
responded with a blank look. -
6:04 - 6:06And after a few seconds, he said,
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6:07 - 6:09"Oh, I get it.
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6:10 - 6:13You mean you want to just hand out
more money to the poor -
6:14 - 6:16to eradicate poverty.
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6:16 - 6:19Uh, sure, that'd be great.
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6:20 - 6:22But I'm afraid that brand
of left-wing politics -
6:22 - 6:24you've got in Amsterdam --
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6:24 - 6:26it doesn't exist in the States."
-
6:27 - 6:30But is this really
an old-fashioned, leftist idea? -
6:31 - 6:33I remembered reading about an old plan --
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6:33 - 6:37something that has been proposed
by some of history's leading thinkers. -
6:37 - 6:41The philosopher Thomas More
first hinted at it in his book, "Utopia," -
6:41 - 6:43more than 500 years ago.
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6:43 - 6:47And its proponents have spanned
the spectrum from the left to the right, -
6:47 - 6:50from the civil rights campaigner,
Martin Luther King, -
6:50 - 6:52to the economist Milton Friedman.
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6:53 - 6:56And it's an incredibly simple idea:
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6:57 - 7:00basic income guarantee.
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7:01 - 7:03What it is?
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7:03 - 7:04Well, that's easy.
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7:05 - 7:07It's a monthly grant, enough to pay
for your basic needs: -
7:07 - 7:09food, shelter, education.
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7:10 - 7:12It's completely unconditional,
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7:12 - 7:14so no one's going to tell you
what you have to do for it, -
7:14 - 7:17and no one's going to tell you
what you have to do with it. -
7:17 - 7:19The basic income
is not a favor, but a right. -
7:19 - 7:22There's absolutely no stigma attached.
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7:22 - 7:25So as I learned about the true
nature of poverty, -
7:25 - 7:27I couldn't stop wondering:
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7:27 - 7:30Is this the idea
we've all been waiting for? -
7:31 - 7:33Could it really be that simple?
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7:34 - 7:36And in the three years that followed,
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7:36 - 7:39I read everything I could find
about basic income. -
7:39 - 7:41I researched the dozens of experiments
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7:41 - 7:43that have been conducted
all over the globe, -
7:43 - 7:46and it didn't take long before I stumbled
upon a story of a town -
7:46 - 7:48that had done it --
had actually eradicated poverty. -
7:48 - 7:50But then ...
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7:50 - 7:52nearly everyone forgot about it.
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7:54 - 7:56This story starts in Dauphin, Canada.
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7:57 - 8:03In 1974, everybody in this small town
was guaranteed a basic income, -
8:03 - 8:05ensuring that no one fell
below the poverty line. -
8:05 - 8:07At the start of the experiment,
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8:07 - 8:11an army of researchers
descended on the town. -
8:11 - 8:14For four years, all went well.
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8:15 - 8:18But then a new government
was voted into power, -
8:18 - 8:21and the new Canadian cabinet saw
little point to the expensive experiment. -
8:22 - 8:26So when it became clear there was
no money left to analyze the results, -
8:26 - 8:31the researchers decided to pack
their files away in some 2,000 boxes. -
8:32 - 8:35Twenty-five years went by,
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8:35 - 8:38and then Evelyn Forget,
a Canadian professor, -
8:38 - 8:39found the records.
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8:39 - 8:43For three years, she subjected the data
to all manner of statistical analysis, -
8:43 - 8:45and no matter what she tried,
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8:45 - 8:47the results were the same every time:
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8:48 - 8:52the experiment had been
a resounding success. -
8:53 - 8:54Evelyn Forget discovered
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8:54 - 8:57that the people in Dauphin
had not only become richer -
8:57 - 8:59but also smarter and healthier.
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8:59 - 9:02The school performance of kids
improved substantially. -
9:03 - 9:07The hospitalization rate decreased
by as much as 8.5 percent. -
9:08 - 9:10Domestic violence incidents were down,
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9:10 - 9:12as were mental health complaints.
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9:12 - 9:14And people didn't quit their jobs.
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9:15 - 9:18The only ones who worked a little less
were new mothers and students -- -
9:18 - 9:20who stayed in school longer.
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9:21 - 9:23Similar results have since been found
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9:23 - 9:25in countless other experiments
around the globe, -
9:25 - 9:27from the US to India.
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9:30 - 9:31So ...
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9:32 - 9:33here's what I've learned.
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9:34 - 9:36When it comes to poverty,
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9:36 - 9:41we, the rich, should stop
pretending we know best. -
9:42 - 9:45We should stop sending shoes
and teddy bears to the poor, -
9:45 - 9:47to people we have never met.
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9:47 - 9:50And we should get rid of the vast
industry of paternalistic bureaucrats -
9:50 - 9:52when we could simply
hand over their salaries -
9:52 - 9:54to the poor they're supposed to help.
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9:54 - 9:56(Applause)
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9:56 - 9:59Because, I mean, the great
thing about money -
9:59 - 10:02is that people can use it
to buy things they need -
10:02 - 10:05instead of things that self-appointed
experts think they need. -
10:06 - 10:10Just imagine how many brilliant scientists
and entrepreneurs and writers, -
10:10 - 10:11like George Orwell,
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10:11 - 10:14are now withering away in scarcity.
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10:14 - 10:17Imagine how much energy
and talent we would unleash -
10:17 - 10:20if we got rid of poverty once and for all.
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10:20 - 10:24I believe that a basic income would work
like venture capital for the people. -
10:25 - 10:27And we can't afford not to do it,
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10:27 - 10:30because poverty is hugely expensive.
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10:31 - 10:34Just look at the cost of child poverty
in the US, for example. -
10:34 - 10:38It's estimated at 500 billion
dollars each year, -
10:38 - 10:41in terms of higher health care
spending, higher dropout rates, -
10:41 - 10:43and more crime.
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10:43 - 10:46Now, this is an incredible waste
of human potential. -
10:48 - 10:51But let's talk about
the elephant in the room. -
10:51 - 10:54How could we ever afford
a basic income guarantee? -
10:55 - 10:58Well, it's actually a lot cheaper
than you may think. -
10:58 - 11:02What they did in Dauphin is finance it
with a negative income tax. -
11:02 - 11:04This means that your income is topped up
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11:04 - 11:06as soon as you fall
below the poverty line. -
11:06 - 11:08And in that scenario,
-
11:08 - 11:10according to our economists'
best estimates, -
11:10 - 11:13for a net cost of 175 billion --
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11:13 - 11:18a quarter of US military spending,
one percent of GDP -- -
11:18 - 11:22you could lift all impoverished Americans
above the poverty line. -
11:23 - 11:26You could actually eradicate poverty.
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11:26 - 11:28Now, that should be our goal.
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11:29 - 11:30(Applause)
-
11:30 - 11:33The time for small thoughts
and little nudges is past. -
11:33 - 11:36I really believe that the time has come
for radical new ideas, -
11:36 - 11:39and basic income is so much more
than just another policy. -
11:39 - 11:44It is also a complete rethink
of what work actually is. -
11:44 - 11:46And in that sense,
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11:46 - 11:47it will not only free the poor,
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11:49 - 11:50but also the rest of us.
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11:51 - 11:54Nowadays, millions of people feel
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11:54 - 11:56that their jobs have little
meaning or significance. -
11:56 - 11:59A recent poll among 230,000 employees
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11:59 - 12:01in 142 countries
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12:01 - 12:05found that only 30 percent of workers
actually like their job. -
12:07 - 12:10And another poll found that as much
as 37 percent of British workers -
12:10 - 12:13have a job that they think
doesn't even need to exist. -
12:14 - 12:17It's like Brad Pitt says in "Fight Club,"
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12:17 - 12:20"Too often we're working jobs we hate
so we can buy shit we don't need." -
12:20 - 12:22(Laughter)
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12:22 - 12:23Now, don't get me wrong --
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12:23 - 12:26I'm not talking about the teachers
and the garbagemen -
12:26 - 12:27and the care workers here.
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12:27 - 12:29If they stopped working,
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12:29 - 12:30we'd be in trouble.
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12:31 - 12:35I'm talking about all those well-paid
professionals with excellent résumés -
12:35 - 12:36who earn their money doing ...
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12:36 - 12:39strategic transactor peer-to-peer meetings
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12:39 - 12:42while brainstorming the value
add-on of disruptive co-creation -
12:42 - 12:43in the network society.
-
12:43 - 12:44(Laughter)
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12:44 - 12:45(Applause)
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12:45 - 12:46Or something like that.
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12:46 - 12:49Just imagine again how much
talent we're wasting, -
12:49 - 12:53simply because we tell our kids
they'll have to "earn a living." -
12:54 - 12:57Or think of what a math whiz working
at Facebook lamented a few years ago: -
12:57 - 12:59"The best minds of my generation
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12:59 - 13:02are thinking about how
to make people click ads." -
13:05 - 13:06I'm a historian.
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13:07 - 13:09And if history teaches us anything,
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13:09 - 13:12it is that things could be different.
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13:12 - 13:13There is nothing inevitable
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13:13 - 13:16about the way we structured our society
and economy right now. -
13:16 - 13:19Ideas can and do change the world.
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13:19 - 13:21And I think that especially
in the past few years, -
13:21 - 13:23it has become abundantly clear
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13:23 - 13:25that we cannot stick to the status quo --
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13:25 - 13:26that we need new ideas.
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13:28 - 13:32I know that many of you
may feel pessimistic -
13:32 - 13:34about a future of rising inequality,
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13:34 - 13:35xenophobia
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13:35 - 13:36and climate change.
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13:37 - 13:39But it's not enough
to know what we're against. -
13:39 - 13:41We also need to be for something.
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13:41 - 13:43Martin Luther King didn't say,
"I have a nightmare." -
13:43 - 13:45(Laughter)
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13:45 - 13:46He had a dream.
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13:47 - 13:48(Applause)
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13:48 - 13:49So ...
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13:50 - 13:51here's my dream:
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13:52 - 13:54I believe in a future
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13:54 - 13:56where the value of your work
is not determined -
13:56 - 13:58by the size of your paycheck,
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13:58 - 14:00but by the amount of happiness you spread
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14:00 - 14:02and the amount of meaning you give.
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14:02 - 14:03I believe in a future
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14:03 - 14:07where the point of education is not
to prepare you for another useless job -
14:07 - 14:08but for a life well-lived.
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14:09 - 14:10I believe in a future
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14:11 - 14:14where an existence
without poverty is not a privilege -
14:14 - 14:16but a right we all deserve.
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14:16 - 14:17So here we are.
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14:17 - 14:18Here we are.
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14:18 - 14:21We've got the research,
we've got the evidence -
14:21 - 14:22and we've got the means.
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14:22 - 14:26Now, more than 500 years after Thomas More
first wrote about a basic income, -
14:26 - 14:30and 100 years after George Orwell
discovered the true nature of poverty, -
14:30 - 14:32we all need to change our worldview,
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14:32 - 14:35because poverty
is not a lack of character. -
14:36 - 14:38Poverty is a lack of cash.
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14:39 - 14:41Thank you.
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14:41 - 14:45(Applause)
- Title:
- Poverty isn't a lack of character; it's a lack of cash
- Speaker:
- Rutger Bregman
- Description:
-
"Ideas can and do change the world," says historian Rutger Bregman, sharing his case for a provocative one: guaranteed basic income. Learn more about the idea's 500-year history and a forgotten modern experiment where it actually worked -- and imagine how much energy and talent we would unleash if we got rid of poverty once and for all.
- Video Language:
- English
- Team:
- closed TED
- Project:
- TEDTalks
- Duration:
- 14:58
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Riaki Ponist
4:38 Typo:
more that 100 years ago
->
more than 100 years ago
Swenja Gawantka
Question: At 12:01 I hear "30 percent" instead of "13 percent". Does anyone agree or did I mishear?
Mihaela Niță
I heard 13.
Swenja Gawantka
P.S. How stupid of me, the number 13 is actually written down on the following slide ;-)
Mihaela Niță
Oh, it was just a little bit of inattention, it can happen to all of us :)