Does money make you mean?
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0:01 - 0:03I want you to, for a moment,
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0:03 - 0:07think about playing a game of Monopoly.
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0:07 - 0:13Except in this game,
that combination of skill, talent and luck -
0:13 - 0:15that helped earn you success
in games, as in life, -
0:15 - 0:17has been rendered irrelevant,
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0:17 - 0:19because this game's been rigged,
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0:19 - 0:20and you've got the upper hand.
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0:21 - 0:23You've got more money,
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0:23 - 0:25more opportunities to move
around the board, -
0:25 - 0:27and more access to resources.
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0:27 - 0:29And as you think about that experience,
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0:29 - 0:31I want you to ask yourself:
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0:31 - 0:36How might that experience of being
a privileged player in a rigged game -
0:36 - 0:38change the way you think about yourself
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0:39 - 0:42and regard that other player?
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0:43 - 0:46So, we ran a study
on the UC Berkeley campus -
0:46 - 0:48to look at exactly that question.
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0:48 - 0:52We brought in more than 100 pairs
of strangers into the lab, -
0:53 - 0:55and with the flip of a coin,
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0:55 - 0:59randomly assigned one of the two
to be a rich player in a rigged game. -
0:59 - 1:00They got two times as much money;
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1:02 - 1:05when they passed Go,
they collected twice the salary; -
1:05 - 1:08and they got to roll
both dice instead of one, -
1:08 - 1:10so they got to move
around the board a lot more. -
1:10 - 1:12(Laughter)
-
1:12 - 1:14And over the course of 15 minutes,
-
1:14 - 1:16we watched through
hidden cameras what happened. -
1:17 - 1:19What I want to do today,
for the first time, -
1:19 - 1:22is show you a little bit of what we saw.
-
1:22 - 1:24You'll to have to pardon
the sound quality, -
1:24 - 1:26because again, these were hidden cameras.
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1:26 - 1:28So we've provided subtitles.
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1:28 - 1:30[Video] Rich Player: How many
500s did you have? -
1:30 - 1:31Poor Player: Just one.
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1:31 - 1:33RP: Are you serious?
PP: Yeah. -
1:33 - 1:36RP: I have three. (Laughs)
I don't know why they gave me so much. -
1:36 - 1:39Paul Piff: So it was quickly apparent
to players that something was up. -
1:39 - 1:43One person clearly has
a lot more money than the other person, -
1:43 - 1:45and yet, as the game unfolded,
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1:45 - 1:50we saw very notable differences,
dramatic differences begin to emerge -
1:50 - 1:51between the two players.
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1:51 - 1:56The rich player started to move
around the board louder, -
1:56 - 1:59literally smacking the board
with the piece as he went around. -
1:59 - 2:01(Game piece smacks board)
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2:01 - 2:04We were more likely
to see signs of dominance -
2:04 - 2:08and nonverbal signs, displays of power
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2:08 - 2:10and celebration among the rich players.
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2:12 - 2:14We had a bowl of pretzels
positioned off to the side. -
2:14 - 2:16It's on the bottom right corner.
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2:16 - 2:19That allowed us to watch
participants' consummatory behavior. -
2:19 - 2:22So we're just tracking
how many pretzels participants eat. -
2:24 - 2:26[Video] RP: Are those pretzels a trick?
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2:26 - 2:27PP: I don't know.
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2:28 - 2:31Paul Piff: OK, so no surprises,
people are on to us. -
2:31 - 2:34They wonder what that bowl of pretzels
is doing there in the first place. -
2:34 - 2:36One even asks, like you just saw,
-
2:36 - 2:39"Is that bowl of pretzels
there as a trick?" -
2:39 - 2:42And yet, despite that,
the power of the situation -
2:42 - 2:44seems to inevitably dominate,
-
2:44 - 2:47and those rich players
start to eat more pretzels. -
2:47 - 2:49(Laughter)
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2:52 - 2:54[Video] RP: I love pretzels.
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2:54 - 2:55(Laughter)
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2:58 - 3:00Paul Piff: And as the game went on,
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3:00 - 3:03one of the really interesting
and dramatic patterns -
3:03 - 3:06that we observed begin to emerge
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3:06 - 3:09was that the rich players
actually started to become ruder -
3:09 - 3:10toward the other person --
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3:11 - 3:15less and less sensitive to the plight
of those poor, poor players, -
3:15 - 3:19and more and more demonstrative
of their material success, -
3:19 - 3:22more likely to showcase
how well they're doing. -
3:24 - 3:26[Video] RP: I have money ...
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3:26 - 3:28(Laughs) I have money for everything.
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3:28 - 3:29PP: How much is that?
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3:30 - 3:32RP: You owe me 24 dollars.
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3:33 - 3:36You're going to lose all your money soon.
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3:36 - 3:38I'll buy it. I have so much money.
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3:38 - 3:40I have so much money, it takes me forever.
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3:40 - 3:42RP 2: I'm going
to buy out this whole board. -
3:42 - 3:45RP 3: You're going
to run out of money soon. -
3:45 - 3:47I'm pretty much untouchable at this point.
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3:47 - 3:48(Laughter)
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3:48 - 3:51Paul Piff: And here's what I think
was really, really interesting: -
3:51 - 3:54it's that, at the end of the 15 minutes,
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3:54 - 3:58we asked the players to talk
about their experience during the game. -
3:59 - 4:03And when the rich players talked
about why they had inevitably won -
4:03 - 4:04in this rigged game of Monopoly ...
-
4:04 - 4:09(Laughter)
-
4:09 - 4:16They talked about what they'd done
to buy those different properties -
4:16 - 4:18and earn their success in the game.
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4:18 - 4:19(Laughter)
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4:19 - 4:21And they became far less attuned
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4:21 - 4:24to all those different
features of the situation -- -
4:24 - 4:26including that flip of a coin --
-
4:27 - 4:31that had randomly gotten them
into that privileged position -
4:31 - 4:32in the first place.
-
4:32 - 4:35And that's a really,
really incredible insight -
4:35 - 4:38into how the mind
makes sense of advantage. -
4:40 - 4:42Now, this game of Monopoly can be used
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4:42 - 4:47as a metaphor for understanding society
and its hierarchical structure, -
4:47 - 4:51wherein some people
have a lot of wealth and a lot of status, -
4:51 - 4:52and a lot of people don't;
-
4:52 - 4:55they have a lot less wealth
and a lot less status -
4:55 - 4:58and a lot less access to valued resources.
-
4:58 - 5:02And what my colleagues and I
for the last seven years have been doing -
5:02 - 5:05is studying the effects
of these kinds of hierarchies. -
5:06 - 5:09What we've been finding
across dozens of studies -
5:09 - 5:12and thousands of participants
across this country -
5:12 - 5:16is that as a person's levels
of wealth increase, -
5:17 - 5:21their feelings of compassion
and empathy go down, -
5:23 - 5:27and their feelings of entitlement,
of deservingness, -
5:27 - 5:30and their ideology
of self-interest increase. -
5:31 - 5:33In surveys, we've found
-
5:33 - 5:37that it's actually wealthier individuals
who are more likely to moralize -
5:37 - 5:38greed being good,
-
5:39 - 5:42and that the pursuit of self-interest
is favorable and moral. -
5:43 - 5:47Now, what I want to do today
is talk about some of the implications -
5:47 - 5:49of this ideology self-interest,
-
5:50 - 5:52talk about why we should
care about those implications, -
5:52 - 5:54and end with what might be done.
-
5:56 - 5:58Some of the first studies
that we ran in this area -
5:58 - 5:59looked at helping behavior,
-
5:59 - 6:03something social psychologists
call "pro-social behavior." -
6:03 - 6:05And we were really interested
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6:05 - 6:08in who's more likely
to offer help to another person: -
6:08 - 6:11someone who's rich or someone who's poor.
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6:12 - 6:13In one of the studies,
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6:13 - 6:18we bring rich and poor members
of the community into the lab, -
6:18 - 6:21and give each of them
the equivalent of 10 dollars. -
6:22 - 6:26We told the participants they could keep
these 10 dollars for themselves, -
6:26 - 6:29or they could share
a portion of it, if they wanted to, -
6:29 - 6:31with a stranger, who's totally anonymous.
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6:31 - 6:35They'll never meet that stranger;
the stranger will never meet them. -
6:35 - 6:37And we just monitor how much people give.
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6:38 - 6:42Individuals who made 25,000,
sometimes under 15,000 dollars a year, -
6:42 - 6:46gave 44 percent more
of their money to the stranger -
6:46 - 6:49than did individuals making
150,000, 200,000 dollars a year. -
6:51 - 6:53We've had people play games
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6:54 - 6:56to see who's more or less likely to cheat
-
6:56 - 6:59to increase their chances
of winning a prize. -
6:59 - 7:02In one of the games,
we actually rigged a computer -
7:02 - 7:05so that die rolls over a certain score
were impossible -- -
7:05 - 7:09You couldn't get above 12
in this game, and yet ... -
7:11 - 7:14the richer you were, the more likely
you were to cheat in this game -
7:14 - 7:17to earn credits toward a $50 cash prize --
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7:17 - 7:19sometimes by three to four times as much.
-
7:21 - 7:22We ran another study
-
7:22 - 7:26where we looked at whether people
would be inclined to take candy -
7:26 - 7:29from a jar of candy
that we explicitly identified -
7:29 - 7:31as being reserved for children --
-
7:31 - 7:35(Laughter)
-
7:35 - 7:39I'm not kidding -- I know it sounds
like I'm making a joke. -
7:39 - 7:41We explicitly told participants:
-
7:41 - 7:46"This candy is for children participating
in a developmental lab nearby. -
7:46 - 7:48They're in studies. This is for them."
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7:48 - 7:51And we just monitored
how much candy participants took. -
7:52 - 7:54Participants who felt rich
took two times as much candy -
7:55 - 7:56as participants who felt poor.
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7:58 - 8:00We've even studied cars.
-
8:00 - 8:02Not just any cars,
-
8:02 - 8:05but whether drivers
of different kinds of cars -
8:05 - 8:08are more or less inclined
to break the law. -
8:08 - 8:10In one of these studies,
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8:11 - 8:15we looked at whether drivers
would stop for a pedestrian -
8:15 - 8:18that we had posed waiting
to cross at a crosswalk. -
8:18 - 8:20Now in California, as you all know,
-
8:20 - 8:22because I'm sure we all do this,
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8:22 - 8:26it's the law to stop for a pedestrian
who's waiting to cross. -
8:26 - 8:28So here's an example of how we did it.
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8:28 - 8:32That's our confederate off to the left,
posing as a pedestrian. -
8:32 - 8:36He approaches as the red truck
successfully stops. -
8:36 - 8:38In typical California fashion,
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8:38 - 8:41it's overtaken by the bus
who almost runs our pedestrian over. -
8:41 - 8:42(Laughter)
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8:42 - 8:45Now here's an example
of a more expensive car, -
8:45 - 8:49a Prius, driving through,
and a BMW doing the same. -
8:52 - 8:54So we did this for hundreds of vehicles
-
8:54 - 8:56on several days,
-
8:57 - 8:59just tracking who stops and who doesn't.
-
9:01 - 9:05What we found was as the expensiveness
of a car increased ... -
9:05 - 9:07(Laughter)
-
9:07 - 9:10the drivers' tendencies
to break the law increased as well. -
9:10 - 9:13None of the cars -- none of the cars --
-
9:13 - 9:16in our least expensive car category
-
9:16 - 9:17broke the law.
-
9:18 - 9:23Close to 50 percent of the cars
in our most expensive vehicle category -
9:23 - 9:24broke the law.
-
9:26 - 9:27We've run other studies,
-
9:27 - 9:31finding that wealthier individuals
are more likely to lie in negotiations, -
9:31 - 9:33to endorse unethical behavior at work,
-
9:33 - 9:36like stealing cash from the cash register,
-
9:36 - 9:38taking bribes, lying to customers.
-
9:41 - 9:42Now, I don't mean to suggest
-
9:42 - 9:46that it's only wealthy people
who show these patterns of behavior. -
9:46 - 9:49Not at all -- in fact,
I think that we all, -
9:49 - 9:52in our day-to-day, minute-by-minute lives,
-
9:52 - 9:55struggle with these competing motivations
-
9:55 - 10:00of when or if to put our own interests
above the interests of other people. -
10:00 - 10:03And that's understandable,
-
10:03 - 10:05because the American dream is an idea
-
10:05 - 10:10in which we all have an equal opportunity
to succeed and prosper, -
10:10 - 10:13as long as we apply
ourselves and work hard. -
10:13 - 10:16And a piece of that means that sometimes,
-
10:16 - 10:19you need to put your own interests
-
10:19 - 10:22above the interests and well-being
of other people around you. -
10:22 - 10:26But what we're finding
is that the wealthier you are, -
10:26 - 10:29the more likely you are to pursue
a vision of personal success, -
10:29 - 10:32of achievement and accomplishment,
-
10:32 - 10:34to the detriment of others around you.
-
10:35 - 10:38Here I've plotted for you
the mean household income -
10:38 - 10:41received by each fifth
and top five percent of the population -
10:41 - 10:43over the last 20 years.
-
10:44 - 10:45In 1993,
-
10:45 - 10:48the differences between the different
quintiles of the population, -
10:48 - 10:49in terms of income,
-
10:49 - 10:51are fairly egregious.
-
10:52 - 10:54It's not difficult to discern
that there are differences. -
10:54 - 10:57But over the last 20 years,
that significant difference -
10:57 - 11:00has become a Grand Canyon of sorts
-
11:00 - 11:03between those at the top
and everyone else. -
11:03 - 11:06In fact, the top 20 percent
of our population -
11:06 - 11:09own close to 90 percent
of the total wealth in this country. -
11:09 - 11:13We're at unprecedented levels
of economic inequality. -
11:16 - 11:20What that means is that wealth is not only
becoming increasingly concentrated -
11:20 - 11:23in the hands of a select group
of individuals, -
11:23 - 11:27but the American dream
is becoming increasingly unattainable -
11:27 - 11:29for an increasing majority of us.
-
11:30 - 11:33And if it's the case,
as we've been finding, -
11:33 - 11:34that the wealthier you are,
-
11:35 - 11:37the more entitled you feel to that wealth,
-
11:37 - 11:40and the more likely you are
to prioritize your own interests -
11:40 - 11:42above the interests of other people,
-
11:42 - 11:45and be willing to do things
to serve that self-interest, -
11:45 - 11:49well, then, there's no reason to think
that those patterns will change. -
11:49 - 11:53In fact, there's every reason
to think that they'll only get worse, -
11:53 - 11:56and that's what it would look like
if things just stayed the same, -
11:56 - 11:59at the same linear rate,
over the next 20 years. -
12:00 - 12:03Now inequality -- economic inequality --
-
12:03 - 12:05is something we should
all be concerned about, -
12:05 - 12:09and not just because of those
at the bottom of the social hierarchy, -
12:09 - 12:11but because individuals and groups
-
12:11 - 12:16with lots of economic
inequality do worse ... -
12:16 - 12:19not just the people
at the bottom, everyone. -
12:19 - 12:21There's a lot of really
compelling research -
12:21 - 12:24coming out from top labs
all over the world, -
12:24 - 12:29showcasing the range of things
that are undermined -
12:29 - 12:31as economic inequality gets worse.
-
12:31 - 12:34Social mobility,
things we really care about, -
12:34 - 12:37physical health, social trust,
-
12:37 - 12:39all go down as inequality goes up.
-
12:39 - 12:44Similarly, negative things
in social collectives and societies, -
12:44 - 12:46things like obesity, and violence,
-
12:46 - 12:48imprisonment, and punishment,
-
12:48 - 12:52are exacerbated as economic
inequality increases. -
12:52 - 12:55Again, these are outcomes
not just experienced by a few, -
12:55 - 12:59but that resound
across all strata of society. -
12:59 - 13:02Even people at the top
experience these outcomes. -
13:02 - 13:04So what do we do?
-
13:05 - 13:09This cascade of self-perpetuating,
-
13:09 - 13:11pernicious, negative effects
-
13:11 - 13:15could seem like something
that's spun out of control, -
13:15 - 13:17and there's nothing we can do about it,
-
13:17 - 13:19certainly nothing
we as individuals could do. -
13:20 - 13:26But in fact, we've been finding
in our own laboratory research -
13:27 - 13:31that small psychological interventions,
-
13:32 - 13:35small changes to people's values,
-
13:35 - 13:38small nudges in certain directions,
-
13:38 - 13:41can restore levels
of egalitarianism and empathy. -
13:42 - 13:46For instance, reminding people
of the benefits of cooperation -
13:46 - 13:48or the advantages of community,
-
13:49 - 13:53cause wealthier individuals
to be just as egalitarian -
13:53 - 13:54as poor people.
-
13:55 - 14:01In one study, we had people watch
a brief video, just 46 seconds long, -
14:01 - 14:02about childhood poverty
-
14:03 - 14:07that served as a reminder of the needs
of others in the world around them. -
14:08 - 14:10And after watching that,
-
14:10 - 14:14we looked at how willing people
were to offer up their own time -
14:14 - 14:18to a stranger presented to them
in the lab, who was in distress. -
14:19 - 14:22After watching this video, an hour later,
-
14:22 - 14:26rich people became
just as generous of their own time -
14:26 - 14:28to help out this other person, a stranger,
-
14:28 - 14:29as someone who's poor,
-
14:29 - 14:34suggesting that these differences
are not innate or categorical, -
14:34 - 14:37but are so malleable
to slight changes in people's values, -
14:37 - 14:41and little nudges of compassion
and bumps of empathy. -
14:41 - 14:43And beyond the walls of our lab,
-
14:43 - 14:46we're even beginning to see
signs of change in society. -
14:47 - 14:50Bill Gates, one of our nation's
wealthiest individuals, -
14:50 - 14:52in his Harvard commencement speech,
-
14:52 - 14:55talked about the problem
of inequality facing society -
14:55 - 14:58as being the most daunting challenge,
-
14:58 - 15:00and talked about what must
be done to combat it, -
15:00 - 15:05saying, "Humanity's greatest advances
are not in its discoveries -- -
15:05 - 15:09but in how those discoveries are applied
-
15:09 - 15:10to reduce inequity."
-
15:11 - 15:13And there's the Giving Pledge,
-
15:13 - 15:17in which more than 100
of our nation's wealthiest individuals -
15:18 - 15:21are pledging half
of their fortunes to charity. -
15:22 - 15:26And there's the emergence of dozens
of grassroots movements, -
15:27 - 15:29like "We are the 1 percent,"
-
15:30 - 15:31"Resource Generation,"
-
15:32 - 15:33or "Wealth for Common Good,"
-
15:33 - 15:38in which the most privileged
members of the population, -
15:38 - 15:41members of the one percent and elsewhere,
-
15:41 - 15:43people who are wealthy,
-
15:43 - 15:46are using their own economic resources,
-
15:46 - 15:50adults and youth alike --
that's what's most striking to me -- -
15:50 - 15:54leveraging their own privilege,
their own economic resources, -
15:54 - 15:57to combat inequality
-
15:57 - 15:59by advocating for social policies,
-
16:00 - 16:02changes in social values
-
16:02 - 16:04and changes in people's behavior
-
16:04 - 16:07that work against
their own economic interests, -
16:07 - 16:10but that may ultimately
restore the American dream. -
16:11 - 16:13Thank you.
-
16:13 - 16:18(Applause)
- Title:
- Does money make you mean?
- Speaker:
- Paul Piff
- Description:
-
It's amazing what a rigged game of Monopoly can reveal. In this entertaining but sobering talk, social psychologist Paul Piff shares his research into how people behave when they feel wealthy. (Hint: badly.) But while the problem of inequality is a complex and daunting challenge, there's good news too. (Filmed at TEDxMarin.)
- Video Language:
- English
- Team:
closed TED
- Project:
- TEDTalks
- Duration:
- 16:35
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The English transcript was updated on 1/26/2017.