An escape from poverty
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0:00 - 0:04I've been working on issues of poverty for more than 20 years,
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0:04 - 0:09and so it's ironic that the problem that and question that I most grapple with
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0:09 - 0:12is how you actually define poverty. What does it mean?
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0:12 - 0:14So often, we look at dollar terms --
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0:14 - 0:16people making less than a dollar or two or three a day.
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0:16 - 0:21And yet the complexity of poverty really has to look at
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0:21 - 0:23income as only one variable.
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0:23 - 0:25Because really, it's a condition about choice,
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0:25 - 0:27and the lack of freedom.
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0:27 - 0:30And I had an experience that really deepened and elucidated for me
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0:30 - 0:32the understanding that I have.
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0:32 - 0:34It was in Kenya, and I want to share it with you.
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0:34 - 0:36I was with my friend Susan Meiselas, the photographer,
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0:36 - 0:38in the Mathare Valley slums.
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0:38 - 0:41Now, Mathare Valley is one of the oldest slums in Africa.
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0:41 - 0:43It's about three miles out of Nairobi,
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0:43 - 0:46and it's a mile long and about two-tenths of a mile wide,
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0:46 - 0:48where over half a million people
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0:48 - 0:50live crammed in these little tin shacks,
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0:50 - 0:53generation after generation, renting them,
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0:53 - 0:55often eight or 10 people to a room.
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0:55 - 1:01And it's known for prostitution, violence, drugs:
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1:01 - 1:03a hard place to grow up.
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1:03 - 1:05And when we were walking through the narrow alleys,
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1:05 - 1:08it was literally impossible not to step in the
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1:08 - 1:12raw sewage and the garbage alongside the little homes.
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1:12 - 1:14But at the same time it was also
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1:14 - 1:17impossible not to see the human vitality,
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1:17 - 1:20the aspiration and the ambition of the people who live there:
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1:20 - 1:23women washing their babies, washing their clothes, hanging them out to dry.
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1:23 - 1:25I met this woman, Mama Rose,
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1:25 - 1:28who has rented that little tin shack for 32 years,
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1:28 - 1:30where she lives with her seven children.
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1:30 - 1:32Four sleep in one twin bed,
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1:32 - 1:35and three sleep on the mud and linoleum floor.
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1:35 - 1:39And she keeps them all in school by selling water from that kiosk,
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1:39 - 1:43and from selling soap and bread from the little store inside.
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1:43 - 1:45It was also the day after the inauguration,
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1:45 - 1:49and I was reminded how Mathare is still connected to the globe.
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1:49 - 1:51And I would see kids on the street corners,
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1:51 - 1:53and they'd say "Obama, he's our brother!"
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1:53 - 1:56And I'd say "Well, Obama's my brother, so that makes you my brother too."
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1:56 - 2:00And they would look quizzically, and then be like, "High five!"
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2:00 - 2:03And it was here that I met Jane.
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2:03 - 2:06I was struck immediately by the kindness and the gentleness in her face,
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2:06 - 2:09and I asked her to tell me her story.
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2:09 - 2:12She started off by telling me her dream. She said, "I had two.
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2:12 - 2:14My first dream was to be a doctor,
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2:14 - 2:16and the second was to marry a good man
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2:16 - 2:18who would stay with me and my family,
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2:18 - 2:20because my mother was a single mom,
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2:20 - 2:22and couldn't afford to pay for school fees.
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2:22 - 2:26So I had to give up the first dream, and I focused on the second."
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2:26 - 2:29She got married when she was 18, had a baby right away.
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2:29 - 2:33And when she turned 20, found herself pregnant with a second child,
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2:33 - 2:37her mom died and her husband left her -- married another woman.
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2:37 - 2:41So she was again in Mathare, with no income, no skill set, no money.
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2:41 - 2:44And so she ultimately turned to prostitution.
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2:44 - 2:46It wasn't organized in the way we often think of it.
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2:46 - 2:49She would go into the city at night with about 20 girls,
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2:49 - 2:52look for work, and sometimes come back with a few shillings,
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2:52 - 2:54or sometimes with nothing.
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2:54 - 2:57And she said, "You know, the poverty wasn't so bad. It was the humiliation
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2:57 - 2:59and the embarrassment of it all."
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2:59 - 3:03In 2001, her life changed.
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3:03 - 3:07She had a girlfriend who had heard about this organization, Jamii Bora,
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3:07 - 3:10that would lend money to people no matter how poor you were,
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3:10 - 3:14as long as you provided a commensurate amount in savings.
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3:14 - 3:17And so she spent a year to save 50 dollars,
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3:17 - 3:22and started borrowing, and over time she was able to buy a sewing machine.
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3:22 - 3:23She started tailoring.
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3:23 - 3:26And that turned into what she does now,
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3:26 - 3:28which is to go into the secondhand clothing markets,
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3:28 - 3:32and for about three dollars and 25 cents she buys an old ball gown.
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3:32 - 3:34Some of them might be ones you gave.
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3:34 - 3:38And she repurposes them with frills and ribbons,
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3:38 - 3:42and makes these frothy confections that she sells to women
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3:42 - 3:46for their daughter's Sweet 16 or first Holy Communion --
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3:46 - 3:49those milestones in a life that people want to celebrate
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3:49 - 3:51all along the economic spectrum.
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3:51 - 3:54And she does really good business. In fact, I watched her
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3:54 - 3:56walk through the streets hawking. And before you knew it,
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3:56 - 4:00there was a crowd of women around her, buying these dresses.
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4:00 - 4:03And I reflected, as I was watching her sell the dresses,
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4:03 - 4:05and also the jewelry that she makes,
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4:05 - 4:08that now Jane makes more than four dollars a day.
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4:08 - 4:11And by many definitions she is no longer poor.
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4:11 - 4:13But she still lives in Mathare Valley.
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4:13 - 4:16And so she can't move out.
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4:16 - 4:18She lives with all of that insecurity,
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4:18 - 4:21and in fact, in January, during the ethnic riots,
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4:21 - 4:23she was chased from her home and had to find a new shack
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4:23 - 4:25in which she would live.
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4:25 - 4:27Jamii Bora understands that and understands
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4:27 - 4:29that when we're talking about poverty,
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4:29 - 4:32we've got to look at people all along the economic spectrum.
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4:32 - 4:35And so with patient capital from Acumen and other organizations,
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4:35 - 4:38loans and investments that will go the long term with them,
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4:38 - 4:42they built a low-cost housing development,
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4:42 - 4:46about an hour outside Nairobi central.
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4:46 - 4:48And they designed it from the perspective of
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4:48 - 4:50customers like Jane herself,
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4:50 - 4:52insisting on responsibility and accountability.
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4:52 - 4:56So she has to give 10 percent of the mortgage --
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4:56 - 5:00of the total value, or about 400 dollars in savings.
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5:00 - 5:05And then they match her mortgage to what she paid in rent for her little shanty.
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5:05 - 5:07And in the next couple of weeks, she's going to be
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5:07 - 5:10among the first 200 families to move into this development.
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5:10 - 5:14When I asked her if she feared anything,
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5:14 - 5:16or whether she would miss anything from Mathare,
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5:16 - 5:18she said, "What would I fear
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5:18 - 5:20that I haven't confronted already?
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5:20 - 5:24I'm HIV positive. I've dealt with it all."
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5:24 - 5:27And she said, "What would I miss?
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5:27 - 5:30You think I will miss the violence or the drugs? The lack of privacy?
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5:30 - 5:32Do you think I'll miss not knowing if my children are going to come home
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5:32 - 5:34at the end of the day?" She said "If you gave me 10 minutes
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5:34 - 5:36my bags would be packed."
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5:36 - 5:39I said, "Well what about your dreams?"
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5:39 - 5:41And she said, "Well, you know,
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5:41 - 5:45my dreams don't look exactly like I thought they would when I was a little girl.
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5:45 - 5:49But if I think about it, I thought I wanted a husband,
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5:49 - 5:52but what I really wanted was a family
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5:52 - 5:56that was loving. And I fiercely love my children, and they love me back."
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5:56 - 5:59She said, "I thought that I wanted to be a doctor,
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5:59 - 6:01but what I really wanted to be was somebody
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6:01 - 6:04who served and healed and cured.
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6:04 - 6:07And so I feel so blessed with everything that I have,
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6:07 - 6:11that two days a week I go and I counsel HIV patients.
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6:11 - 6:14And I say, 'Look at me. You are not dead.
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6:14 - 6:17You are still alive. And if you are still alive you have to serve.'"
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6:17 - 6:21And she said, "I'm not a doctor who gives out pills.
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6:21 - 6:23But maybe me, I give out something better
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6:23 - 6:25because I give them hope."
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6:25 - 6:29And in the middle of this economic crisis,
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6:29 - 6:32where so many of us are inclined to pull in
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6:32 - 6:36with fear, I think we're well suited to
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6:36 - 6:39take a cue from Jane and reach out,
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6:39 - 6:43recognizing that being poor doesn't mean being ordinary.
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6:43 - 6:45Because when systems are broken,
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6:45 - 6:47like the ones that we're seeing around the world,
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6:47 - 6:50it's an opportunity for invention and for innovation.
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6:50 - 6:53It's an opportunity to truly build a world
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6:53 - 6:56where we can extend services and products
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6:56 - 6:59to all human beings, so that they can
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6:59 - 7:01make decisions and choices for themselves.
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7:01 - 7:03I truly believe it's where dignity starts.
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7:03 - 7:06We owe it to the Janes of the world.
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7:06 - 7:09And just as important, we owe it to ourselves.
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7:09 - 7:11Thank you.
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7:11 - 7:12(Applause)
- Title:
- An escape from poverty
- Speaker:
- Jacqueline Novogratz
- Description:
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Jacqueline Novogratz tells a moving story of an encounter in a Nairobi slum with Jane, a former prostitute, whose dreams of escaping poverty, of becoming a doctor and of getting married were fulfilled in an unexpected way.
- Video Language:
- English
- Team:
closed TED
- Project:
- TEDTalks
- Duration:
- 07:18
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