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<Breaking Bad Habits>
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(Questioner) I'm very glad
to see you again.
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Thank you for all the help you've provided
for me and a lot of people.
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Definitely, your wisdom is very much
appreciated and accepted.
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I'm doing pretty good lately
and, at times, feel a lot of equanimity.
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While there is a lot of peace of mind, there's
always a nagging voice in the background.
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I'm afraid to go back to my old habits.
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Even though I've improved a lot,
there are moments I still fall back
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with less intensity,
and I feel frustrated when that happens.
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Practice has been incredible
in easing most of my mental afflictions
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through a lot of reflection,
and I feel much better.
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But now that I've been feeling this
equanimity for a few weeks
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and feeling very good,
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there's always a nervousness that
I'll fall back into my habitual patterns.
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In a way, that's negative thinking.
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It's very difficult
to break these habitual patterns.
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Why is it so difficult?
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(Sunim) Has your relationship with
your daughter improved a lot, or
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have you been able to let go of the issues
that were hanging over that relationship?
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(Questioner) Yes.
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(Sunim) That's great.
Let me ask you a question.
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Which one is more likely to succeed:
trying something for the first time,
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or trying what you have succeeded
previously and going at it again?
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(Questioner) Sometimes it's more difficult
to go back and review all these patterns.
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Sometimes it's a little easier.
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But let's say it's easier
to go through new things.
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Still there's some difficulty in that too,
but it gives a better outcome in some way.
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(Sunim) You've experienced
some tough times in your life.
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And you said you have gotten a lot better
and can maintain equanimity,
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having gone through a lot of practice and
putting in a lot of effort to get there.
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Even if your concern comes true
and you revert back,
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would you be a little better than before,
knowing what you know
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and having the capacity that you do,
or would you be just as bad as before?
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(Questioner) I'll be definitely better off
knowing what I know now, much better.
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And, in some ways, I'm very glad for
whatever I did to overcome
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my mental attachment.
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I am so glad that
I went through the work
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because I definitely feel
that I'm better off like this.
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(Sunim) The point I'm trying to make is that,
let's say you started off at minus 10.
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Then you worked yourself
all the way up to plus 10.
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Even if you relapse as you are concerned,
you won't relapse all the way to minus 10.
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You'll relapse maybe to minus 5,
and if you restart at minus 5,
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getting to plus 10 or even 15 will be
much easier than the first time.
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What I'm trying to say is that,
even if you relapse,
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it's not as bad as before,
and you have already built up
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the capacity to bring yourself back up.
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So, there's no reason
for you to be concerned.
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You need to practice being awake as much
as possible in order to not relapse.
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But you do not need to be
scared of relapsing
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because it'll be much easier
to find equanimity again,
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even if you relapse
and fall back into your old pattern.
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You can just try again.
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I'm saying that you should not be
scared of relapsing.
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First, you won't relapse.
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Second, even if you do, it's going to be
easier for you to come back,
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so there's no big problem.
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Ultimately what I'm trying to say is that
there's nothing for you to be afraid of.
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(Questioner) Thank you, Sunim.
You're right, and I really get your point.
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I cannot say that it's greed, but I
definitely understand from experience now
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that even when I relapse into
some kind of a mental affliction or
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attachment due to these habitual patterns,
their intensity is much less by far.
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I definitely agree with you that
from minus 10, possibly I work up to 10.
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I agree. You are right.
I have already experienced that.
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It's good that you mentioned
because I do fall,
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but I don't feel
that I fall that deep anymore.
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It's good to know.
Thank you very much.
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(Sunim) The fear comes because you are
attached to that state of positivity.
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You should just observe
that you are in a good state and
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maintaining equanimity and peace of mind
instead of being attached to that state.
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Our mind is always dynamic.
It's constantly moving.
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Just because you are in a good state now,
you can't try to grab onto it.
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All you can do is just observe it as it
fluctuates and moves in dynamic ways.
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The fear comes from your attachment
and desire to hold on to that good state.
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First, you need to not attach yourself to
or obsess over the current state.
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Second, it is for you to realize that,
even if you go back,
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it's not something
for you to be afraid of.