Estimates Debate- Education Sector - Video 4

We will end up short of teachers and
there aren't enough teachers

We will end up short of teachers and
there aren't enough teachers

there aren't enough teachers and
class rooms and

there aren't enough teachers and
class rooms and

class rooms and they have no
solutions for

class rooms and they have no
solutions for

class rooms and they have no
solutions for that problem.

class rooms and they have no
solutions for that problem. Paul

solutions for that problem. Paul
Goldsmith. It

solutions for that problem. Paul
Goldsmith. It

solutions for that problem. Paul
Goldsmith. It is a

solutions for that problem. Paul
Goldsmith. It is a great

solutions for that problem. Paul
Goldsmith. It is a great pleasure to

Goldsmith. It is a great pleasure to
Goldsmith. It is a great pleasure to

Goldsmith. It is a great pleasure to
take a call in

Goldsmith. It is a great pleasure to
take a call in

Goldsmith. It is a great pleasure to
take a call in this

take a call in this estimates debate
and talk

take a call in this estimates debate
and talk

take a call in this estimates debate
and talk about the considerable

take a call in this estimates debate
and talk about the considerable

and talk about the considerable and
ongoing

and talk about the considerable and
ongoing investment

ongoing investment that this
Government makes

ongoing investment that this
Government makes

ongoing investment that this
Government makes in

ongoing investment that this
Government makes in the

ongoing investment that this
Government makes in the tertiary

ongoing investment that this
Government makes in the tertiary

ongoing investment that this
education sector particularly. This

education sector particularly. This
education sector particularly. This

education sector particularly. This
Budget totals

education sector particularly. This

education sector particularly. This

year that we invest in the tertiary
year that we invest in the tertiary

year that we invest in the tertiary
sector plus another

year that we invest in the tertiary

for support for students. We do that
because

for support for students. We do that
because

for support for students. We do that
because of

for support for students. We do that
because of the powerful,

for support for students. We do that
because of the powerful,

because of the powerful, powerful
contribution that

because of the powerful, powerful
contribution that

because of the powerful, powerful

because of the powerful, powerful

New Zealanders, partly in terms of
equipping

New Zealanders, partly in terms of
equipping them with the skills

New Zealanders, partly in terms of
equipping them with the skills

equipping them with the skills and
the knowledge they

equipping them with the skills and
the knowledge they

equipping them with the skills and
the knowledge they need in order

equipping them with the skills and
the knowledge they need in order

the knowledge they need in order to
contribute, get

the knowledge they need in order to
contribute, get a

the knowledge they need in order to
contribute, get a good

the knowledge they need in order to
contribute, get a good

contribute, get a good job and
contribute to

contribute, get a good job and
contribute to

contribute, get a good job and
contribute to our economy and

contribute, get a good job and
contribute to our economy and

contribute to our economy and our
country and to

contribute to our economy and our
country and to

contribute to our economy and our
country and to better

contribute to our economy and our
country and to better understand the

contribute to our economy and our
country and to better understand the

country and to better understand the
world in which

country and to better understand the
world in which they

country and to better understand the
world in which they live and in

country and to better understand the
world in which they live and in

world in which they live and in
which their

world in which they live and in
which their

world in which they live and in
which their families live.

world in which they live and in
which their families live. But

which their families live. But also,
we

which their families live. But also,
we also

which their families live. But also,
we also contribute

which their families live. But also,
we also contribute to

we also contribute to tertiary
education because

we also contribute to tertiary
education because

we also contribute to tertiary
education because we can

we also contribute to tertiary
education because we can

we also contribute to tertiary
education because we can see the

we also contribute to tertiary
education because we can see the

education because we can see the
thought

education because we can see the
thought leadership and innovation

education because we can see the
thought leadership and innovation

thought leadership and innovation
that has developed

thought leadership and innovation
that has developed out

thought leadership and innovation
that has developed out of

thought leadership and innovation
that has developed out of

thought leadership and innovation
that has developed out of our

that has developed out of our
university sectors, particularly,

university sectors, particularly,
university sectors, particularly,

university sectors, particularly,
but also across

university sectors, particularly,
but also across

university sectors, particularly,
but also across the tertiary sector

university sectors, particularly,
but also across the tertiary sector

but also across the tertiary sector
so

but also across the tertiary sector
so that that

but also across the tertiary sector
so that that

but also across the tertiary sector
so that that can contribute

but also across the tertiary sector
so that that can contribute

so that that can contribute to the
making

so that that can contribute to the
making our

so that that can contribute to the
making our companies

so that that can contribute to the
making our companies

so that that can contribute to the
making our companies more

making our companies more
internationally competitive,

making our companies more
internationally competitive,

making our companies more
internationally competitive, yes,

internationally competitive, yes,
but

internationally competitive, yes,
but also to

internationally competitive, yes,
but also to

internationally competitive, yes,
but also to better delivering

internationally competitive, yes,
but also to better delivering

but also to better delivering
evidence upon which we

but also to better delivering
evidence upon which we

evidence upon which we in Government
and

evidence upon which we in Government
and

evidence upon which we in Government
and the

evidence upon which we in Government
and the broader community,

evidence upon which we in Government
and the broader community,

evidence upon which we in Government
and the broader community, can

evidence upon which we in Government
and the broader community, can make

evidence upon which we in Government
and the broader community, can make

and the broader community, can make

and the broader community, can make

and the broader community, can make

and the broader community, can make

contributing to finding solutions to
many

contributing to finding solutions to
many of the challenges

contributing to finding solutions to
many of the challenges

many of the challenges that we make.
So

many of the challenges that we make.
So

many of the challenges that we make.
So many

many of the challenges that we make.
So many of

many of the challenges that we make.
So many of

So many of the university
researchers

So many of the university
researchers

So many of the university
researchers are deeply involved

So many of the university
researchers are deeply involved

researchers are deeply involved in
the national

researchers are deeply involved in
the national science

researchers are deeply involved in
the national science challenges

researchers are deeply involved in
the national science challenges

the national science challenges and
many of those

the national science challenges and
many of those

the national science challenges and
many of those areas in which we

the national science challenges and
many of those areas in which we

many of those areas in which we as a
Government

many of those areas in which we as a
Government continue

many of those areas in which we as a
Government continue to

many of those areas in which we as a
Government continue to

Government continue to invest
heavily into

Government continue to invest
heavily into

Government continue to invest
heavily into that issue, into that

Government continue to invest
heavily into that issue, into that

heavily into that issue, into that
area. When I look

heavily into that issue, into that
area. When I look

heavily into that issue, into that
area. When I look at the

heavily into that issue, into that
area. When I look at the

area. When I look at the tertiary
sector

area. When I look at the tertiary
sector as

area. When I look at the tertiary
sector as a whole I

area. When I look at the tertiary
sector as a whole I

sector as a whole I see it breaking
down

sector as a whole I see it breaking
down

sector as a whole I see it breaking
down into four parts. Part

sector as a whole I see it breaking
down into four parts. Part

down into four parts. Part of it is
all

down into four parts. Part of it is
all

down into four parts. Part of it is
all around a lot

down into four parts. Part of it is
all around a lot

down into four parts. Part of it is
all around a lot of investment we

down into four parts. Part of it is
all around a lot of investment we

all around a lot of investment we
make

all around a lot of investment we
make at that

all around a lot of investment we
make at that

all around a lot of investment we
make at that foundation level, which

all around a lot of investment we
make at that foundation level, which

make at that foundation level, which
is trying to find that

make at that foundation level, which
is trying to find that

make at that foundation level, which
is trying to find that spark

make at that foundation level, which
is trying to find that spark of

is trying to find that spark of
inspiration for young

is trying to find that spark of
inspiration for young people

inspiration for young people who
haven't come

inspiration for young people who
haven't come

inspiration for young people who
haven't come out of

inspiration for young people who
haven't come out of

inspiration for young people who
haven't come out of the schooling

inspiration for young people who
haven't come out of the schooling

haven't come out of the schooling
system connected

haven't come out of the schooling
system connected yet

system connected yet and really
trying to

system connected yet and really
trying to reconnect

trying to reconnect them with
education

trying to reconnect them with
education

trying to reconnect them with
education so that they

trying to reconnect them with
education so that they

trying to reconnect them with
education so that they can get

trying to reconnect them with
education so that they can get

education so that they can get back
into learning

education so that they can get back
into learning and

education so that they can get back
into learning and into

education so that they can get back
into learning and into a

education so that they can get back
into learning and into a job. We

education so that they can get back
into learning and into a job. We

into learning and into a job. We
have a

into learning and into a job. We
have a

into learning and into a job. We
have a number of programmes

into learning and into a job. We
have a number of programmes

into learning and into a job. We
have a number of programmes that we

into learning and into a job. We
have a number of programmes that we

have a number of programmes that we
fund such

have a number of programmes that we
fund such

have a number of programmes that we
fund such as

have a number of programmes that we
fund such as youth guarantee,

have a number of programmes that we
fund such as youth guarantee, the

fund such as youth guarantee, the
SAC level

fund such as youth guarantee, the
SAC level

fund such as youth guarantee, the
SAC level 1

fund such as youth guarantee, the
SAC level 1 reign

SAC level 1 reign 2 funding, Maori
and

SAC level 1 reign 2 funding, Maori
and

SAC level 1 reign 2 funding, Maori
and Pacific

SAC level 1 reign 2 funding, Maori
and Pacific Trade training and

SAC level 1 reign 2 funding, Maori
and Pacific Trade training and

and Pacific Trade training and a
whole bunch

and Pacific Trade training and a
whole bunch

and Pacific Trade training and a
whole bunch of schemes

and Pacific Trade training and a
whole bunch of schemes

whole bunch of schemes designed to
reconnect those

whole bunch of schemes designed to
reconnect those

whole bunch of schemes designed to
reconnect those kid. Our focus

whole bunch of schemes designed to
reconnect those kid. Our focus over

reconnect those kid. Our focus over
the next

reconnect those kid. Our focus over
the next little

reconnect those kid. Our focus over
the next little while will be

the next little while will be
continuing

the next little while will be
continuing to evaluate

the next little while will be
continuing to evaluate them.

continuing to evaluate them. Some
work very well

continuing to evaluate them. Some
work very well

continuing to evaluate them. Some
work very well and

work very well and some work
brilliantly in one

work very well and some work
brilliantly in one

work very well and some work
brilliantly in one part

work very well and some work
brilliantly in one part of the

work very well and some work
brilliantly in one part of the

brilliantly in one part of the
country in

brilliantly in one part of the
country in

brilliantly in one part of the
country in Gisborne but not so

brilliantly in one part of the
country in Gisborne but not so

country in Gisborne but not so well
in

country in Gisborne but not so well
in

country in Gisborne but not so well
in the south island. Others

country in Gisborne but not so well
in the south island. Others

country in Gisborne but not so well
in the south island. Others will

in the south island. Others will
work well in

in the south island. Others will
work well in other

in the south island. Others will
work well in other areas. The focus

in the south island. Others will
work well in other areas. The focus

work well in other areas. The focus
is

work well in other areas. The focus
is on

work well in other areas. The focus
is on the effectiveness of

work well in other areas. The focus
is on the effectiveness of

is on the effectiveness of those
regimes. We want

is on the effectiveness of those
regimes. We want

is on the effectiveness of those
regimes. We want to make sure

is on the effectiveness of those
regimes. We want to make sure

regimes. We want to make sure they
work effectively to

regimes. We want to make sure they
work effectively to

work effectively to try to reduce
that

work effectively to try to reduce
that

work effectively to try to reduce
that group. Next is

work effectively to try to reduce
that group. Next is

that group. Next is the broader
skills

that group. Next is the broader
skills

that group. Next is the broader
skills category with we

that group. Next is the broader
skills category with we

skills category with we are trying

skills category with we are trying

skills category with we are trying

skills category with we are trying

skills category with we are trying

skills category with we are trying

Productivity Commission report that
will

Productivity Commission report that

Productivity Commission report that

Productivity Commission report that

Productivity Commission report that

be delivering our response to
shortly.

be delivering our response to
shortly.

be delivering our response to
shortly. It

be delivering our response to
shortly. It is all about trying to

be delivering our response to
shortly. It is all about trying to

shortly. It is all about trying to
ensure that

shortly. It is all about trying to
ensure that

shortly. It is all about trying to
ensure that the system is

shortly. It is all about trying to
ensure that the system is

ensure that the system is generating
the skills

ensure that the system is generating
the skills

ensure that the system is generating
the skills that we need

ensure that the system is generating
the skills that we need

ensure that the system is generating
the skills that we need as an

ensure that the system is generating
the skills that we need as an

the skills that we need as an
economy right

the skills that we need as an
economy right

the skills that we need as an
economy right here, right now.

the skills that we need as an
economy right here, right now. We're

economy right here, right now. We're
in the

economy right here, right now. We're
in the

economy right here, right now. We're
in the situation where more

economy right here, right now. We're
in the situation where more

economy right here, right now. We're
in the situation where more than

in the situation where more than
11,000

in the situation where more than
11,000 jobs have

in the situation where more than
11,000 jobs have

11,000 jobs have been created every
month.

11,000 jobs have been created every
month. There

11,000 jobs have been created every
month. There is

11,000 jobs have been created every
month. There is

11,000 jobs have been created every
month. There is a desperate

11,000 jobs have been created every

11,000 jobs have been created every

11,000 jobs have been created every

is a real call out for skills in so
many

is a real call out for skills in so
many areas.

is a real call out for skills in so
many areas.

is a real call out for skills in so
many areas. Our

is a real call out for skills in so
many areas. Our tertiary sector is

is a real call out for skills in so
many areas. Our tertiary sector is

many areas. Our tertiary sector is
capable of delivering those

many areas. Our tertiary sector is
capable of delivering those skills

capable of delivering those skills
and we

capable of delivering those skills
and we

capable of delivering those skills
and we want to ensure that

capable of delivering those skills
and we want to ensure that it

and we want to ensure that it
continues to do that

and we want to ensure that it
continues to do that

and we want to ensure that it
continues to do that over the next

and we want to ensure that it
continues to do that over the next

continues to do that over the next
years and

continues to do that over the next
years and is

years and is responsive and
innovative and that

years and is responsive and
innovative and that

innovative and that students have
the

innovative and that students have
the

innovative and that students have
the information that

innovative and that students have
the information that

innovative and that students have
the information that they

the information that they have
available to them to

the information that they have
available to them to

available to them to make wise
choices about the

available to them to make wise
choices about the courses

available to them to make wise
the

available to them to make wise
the

available to them to make wise
take. So there is a lot

available to them to make wise
take. So there is a lot of

take. So there is a lot of work
going on in

take. So there is a lot of work
going on in

take. So there is a lot of work
going on in that

take. So there is a lot of work
going on in that area and

take. So there is a lot of work
going on in that area and

going on in that area and that is
why this

going on in that area and that is
why this

going on in that area and that is
why this Budget that we're

going on in that area and that is
why this Budget that we're

why this Budget that we're talking
about has

why this Budget that we're talking
about has

why this Budget that we're talking
about has increased the

why this Budget that we're talking
about has increased the

about has increased the overall
funding

about has increased the overall
funding

about has increased the overall
funding for

about has increased the overall
funding for tuition rates

about has increased the overall
funding for tuition rates across

funding for tuition rates across the
funding for tuition rates across the

funding for tuition rates across the
board. Other

funding for tuition rates across the
board. Other areas

funding for tuition rates across the
board. Other areas

board. Other areas are around
ensuring

board. Other areas are around
ensuring

board. Other areas are around
ensuring that we maintain

board. Other areas are around
ensuring that we maintain

board. Other areas are around
ensuring that we maintain that

board. Other areas are around
ensuring that we maintain that real

ensuring that we maintain that real

universities so that New Zealanders
have

universities so that New Zealanders
have access to that

universities so that New Zealanders
have access to that and

universities so that New Zealanders
have access to that and that is

universities so that New Zealanders
have access to that and that is

have access to that and that is why
we continue to

have access to that and that is why
we continue to

have access to that and that is why
we continue to put extra

have access to that and that is why
we continue to put extra

have access to that and that is why
we continue to put extra resources

we continue to put extra resources
into

we continue to put extra resources
into the

we continue to put extra resources
into the PBRF,

we continue to put extra resources

we continue to put extra resources

responds and reflects to the higher
responds and reflects to the higher

responds and reflects to the higher
quality research side

responds and reflects to the higher
quality research side

responds and reflects to the higher
quality research side of

quality research side of what
universities do. We

quality research side of what
universities do. We

quality research side of what
universities do. We continue

quality research side of what
universities do. We continue and can

universities do. We continue and can
consistently

universities do. We continue and can
consistently invested in that

universities do. We continue and can
consistently invested in that area

consistently invested in that area
as we

consistently invested in that area
as we

consistently invested in that area
as we have in

consistently invested in that area
as we have in

consistently invested in that area
as we have in the broader

consistently invested in that area
as we have in the broader

as we have in the broader science
factor,

as we have in the broader science
factor,

as we have in the broader science
factor, which a

as we have in the broader science
factor, which a significant

factor, which a significant amount
of

factor, which a significant amount
of

factor, which a significant amount
of our science

factor, which a significant amount
of our science

factor, which a significant amount
of our science funding,

a year is channelled through The
a year is channelled through The

a year is channelled through The
Treasury sector as

a year is channelled through The
Treasury sector as

a year is channelled through The
Treasury sector as well. On

a year is channelled through The
Treasury sector as well. On the

Treasury sector as well. On the
international side the

Treasury sector as well. On the
international side the

international side the Budget has
extra

international side the Budget has
extra

international side the Budget has
extra resources

international side the Budget has
extra resources for

international side the Budget has
extra resources for

international side the Budget has
extra resources for Education

international side the Budget has
extra resources for Education NZ,

international side the Budget has
extra resources for Education NZ,

extra resources for Education NZ,
4.5 billion

extra resources for Education NZ,
4.5 billion

extra resources for Education NZ,
4.5 billion industry, very

extra resources for Education NZ,
4.5 billion industry, very

4.5 billion industry, very important
for employers.

4.5 billion industry, very important
for employers.

4.5 billion industry, very important
for employers. Upwards

4.5 billion industry, very important
for employers. Upwards of

4.5 billion industry, very important
for employers. Upwards of 30,000

for employers. Upwards of 30,000 New
Zealanders. We don't

for employers. Upwards of 30,000 New
Zealanders. We don't

for employers. Upwards of 30,000 New
Zealanders. We don't take the view

Zealanders. We don't take the view
Zealanders. We don't take the view

Zealanders. We don't take the view
that you should slash

Zealanders. We don't take the view
that you should slash the

that you should slash the whole
industry in

that you should slash the whole
industry in

that you should slash the whole
industry in half as

that you should slash the whole
industry in half as

industry in half as some other
parties do. We

industry in half as some other
parties do. We

industry in half as some other
parties do. We think it is

industry in half as some other
parties do. We think it is

parties do. We think it is an
important industry and

parties do. We think it is an
important industry and

parties do. We think it is an
important industry and it is

parties do. We think it is an
important industry and it is about

important industry and it is about
diverse feeing the New Zealand

important industry and it is about
diverse feeing the New Zealand

diverse feeing the New Zealand
economy and the focus

diverse feeing the New Zealand
economy and the focus

diverse feeing the New Zealand
economy and the focus should be

diverse feeing the New Zealand
economy and the focus should be

economy and the focus should be on
dealing

economy and the focus should be on
dealing

economy and the focus should be on
dealing with

economy and the focus should be on
dealing with poor performance

economy and the focus should be on
dealing with poor performance

dealing with poor performance that
undoubtedly there is in

dealing with poor performance that
undoubtedly there is in

undoubtedly there is in areas of
that

undoubtedly there is in areas of
that

undoubtedly there is in areas of
that sector where we

undoubtedly there is in areas of
that sector where we have

undoubtedly there is in areas of
that sector where we have got the

that sector where we have got the
regulators

that sector where we have got the
regulators working

that sector where we have got the
regulators working

that sector where we have got the
regulators working very hard

that sector where we have got the
regulators working very hard

that sector where we have got the
regulators working very hard in that

that sector where we have got the
regulators working very hard in that

regulators working very hard in that
area to rein

regulators working very hard in that
area to rein

regulators working very hard in that
area to rein in poor

regulators working very hard in that
area to rein in poor

area to rein in poor performance but
overall a

area to rein in poor performance but
overall a very

area to rein in poor performance but
overall a very important sector and

overall a very important sector and
we

overall a very important sector and
we continue to

overall a very important sector and
we continue to support

Delahunty.

Delahunty.

Delahunty.

Delahunty.

Delahunty.

this estimates debate is always
this estimates debate is always

this estimates debate is always
worth participating in because

this estimates debate is always
worth participating in because

worth participating in because there
is such

worth participating in because there
is such

worth participating in because there
is such a huge gap

worth participating in because there
is such a huge gap

is such a huge gap between the
rhetoric and

is such a huge gap between the
rhetoric and

is such a huge gap between the
rhetoric and what we say and

is such a huge gap between the
rhetoric and what we say and

rhetoric and what we say and all the
numbers

rhetoric and what we say and all the
numbers

rhetoric and what we say and all the
numbers we throw around in

rhetoric and what we say and all the
numbers we throw around in

numbers we throw around in this
House and

numbers we throw around in this
House and

numbers we throw around in this
House and then

numbers we throw around in this
House and then what happens when you

House and then what happens when you
go

House and then what happens when you
go out and talk to

House and then what happens when you
go out and talk to

House and then what happens when you
go out and talk to people. There

House and then what happens when you
go out and talk to people. There

go out and talk to people. There is
such a

go out and talk to people. There is
such a big

go out and talk to people. There is
such a big credibility gap in.

go out and talk to people. There is
such a big credibility gap in. The