We will end up short of teachers and
there aren't enough teachers
We will end up short of teachers and
there aren't enough teachers
there aren't enough teachers and
class rooms and
there aren't enough teachers and
class rooms and
class rooms and they have no
solutions for
class rooms and they have no
solutions for
class rooms and they have no
solutions for that problem.
class rooms and they have no
solutions for that problem. Paul
solutions for that problem. Paul
Goldsmith. It
solutions for that problem. Paul
Goldsmith. It
solutions for that problem. Paul
Goldsmith. It is a
solutions for that problem. Paul
Goldsmith. It is a great
solutions for that problem. Paul
Goldsmith. It is a great pleasure to
Goldsmith. It is a great pleasure to
Goldsmith. It is a great pleasure to
Goldsmith. It is a great pleasure to
take a call in
Goldsmith. It is a great pleasure to
take a call in
Goldsmith. It is a great pleasure to
take a call in this
take a call in this estimates debate
and talk
take a call in this estimates debate
and talk
take a call in this estimates debate
and talk about the considerable
take a call in this estimates debate
and talk about the considerable
and talk about the considerable and
ongoing
and talk about the considerable and
ongoing investment
ongoing investment that this
Government makes
ongoing investment that this
Government makes
ongoing investment that this
Government makes in
ongoing investment that this
Government makes in the
ongoing investment that this
Government makes in the tertiary
ongoing investment that this
Government makes in the tertiary
ongoing investment that this
education sector particularly. This
education sector particularly. This
education sector particularly. This
education sector particularly. This
Budget totals
education sector particularly. This
education sector particularly. This
year that we invest in the tertiary
year that we invest in the tertiary
year that we invest in the tertiary
sector plus another
year that we invest in the tertiary
for support for students. We do that
because
for support for students. We do that
because
for support for students. We do that
because of
for support for students. We do that
because of the powerful,
for support for students. We do that
because of the powerful,
because of the powerful, powerful
contribution that
because of the powerful, powerful
contribution that
because of the powerful, powerful
because of the powerful, powerful
New Zealanders, partly in terms of
equipping
New Zealanders, partly in terms of
equipping them with the skills
New Zealanders, partly in terms of
equipping them with the skills
equipping them with the skills and
the knowledge they
equipping them with the skills and
the knowledge they
equipping them with the skills and
the knowledge they need in order
equipping them with the skills and
the knowledge they need in order
the knowledge they need in order to
contribute, get
the knowledge they need in order to
contribute, get a
the knowledge they need in order to
contribute, get a good
the knowledge they need in order to
contribute, get a good
contribute, get a good job and
contribute to
contribute, get a good job and
contribute to
contribute, get a good job and
contribute to our economy and
contribute, get a good job and
contribute to our economy and
contribute to our economy and our
country and to
contribute to our economy and our
country and to
contribute to our economy and our
country and to better
contribute to our economy and our
country and to better understand the
contribute to our economy and our
country and to better understand the
country and to better understand the
world in which
country and to better understand the
world in which they
country and to better understand the
world in which they live and in
country and to better understand the
world in which they live and in
world in which they live and in
which their
world in which they live and in
which their
world in which they live and in
which their families live.
world in which they live and in
which their families live. But
which their families live. But also,
we
which their families live. But also,
we also
which their families live. But also,
we also contribute
which their families live. But also,
we also contribute to
we also contribute to tertiary
education because
we also contribute to tertiary
education because
we also contribute to tertiary
education because we can
we also contribute to tertiary
education because we can
we also contribute to tertiary
education because we can see the
we also contribute to tertiary
education because we can see the
education because we can see the
thought
education because we can see the
thought leadership and innovation
education because we can see the
thought leadership and innovation
thought leadership and innovation
that has developed
thought leadership and innovation
that has developed out
thought leadership and innovation
that has developed out of
thought leadership and innovation
that has developed out of
thought leadership and innovation
that has developed out of our
that has developed out of our
university sectors, particularly,
university sectors, particularly,
university sectors, particularly,
university sectors, particularly,
but also across
university sectors, particularly,
but also across
university sectors, particularly,
but also across the tertiary sector
university sectors, particularly,
but also across the tertiary sector
but also across the tertiary sector
so
but also across the tertiary sector
so that that
but also across the tertiary sector
so that that
but also across the tertiary sector
so that that can contribute
but also across the tertiary sector
so that that can contribute
so that that can contribute to the
making
so that that can contribute to the
making our
so that that can contribute to the
making our companies
so that that can contribute to the
making our companies
so that that can contribute to the
making our companies more
making our companies more
internationally competitive,
making our companies more
internationally competitive,
making our companies more
internationally competitive, yes,
internationally competitive, yes,
but
internationally competitive, yes,
but also to
internationally competitive, yes,
but also to
internationally competitive, yes,
but also to better delivering
internationally competitive, yes,
but also to better delivering
but also to better delivering
evidence upon which we
but also to better delivering
evidence upon which we
evidence upon which we in Government
and
evidence upon which we in Government
and
evidence upon which we in Government
and the
evidence upon which we in Government
and the broader community,
evidence upon which we in Government
and the broader community,
evidence upon which we in Government
and the broader community, can
evidence upon which we in Government
and the broader community, can make
evidence upon which we in Government
and the broader community, can make
and the broader community, can make
and the broader community, can make
and the broader community, can make
and the broader community, can make
contributing to finding solutions to
many
contributing to finding solutions to
many of the challenges
contributing to finding solutions to
many of the challenges
many of the challenges that we make.
So
many of the challenges that we make.
So
many of the challenges that we make.
So many
many of the challenges that we make.
So many of
many of the challenges that we make.
So many of
So many of the university
researchers
So many of the university
researchers
So many of the university
researchers are deeply involved
So many of the university
researchers are deeply involved
researchers are deeply involved in
the national
researchers are deeply involved in
the national science
researchers are deeply involved in
the national science challenges
researchers are deeply involved in
the national science challenges
the national science challenges and
many of those
the national science challenges and
many of those
the national science challenges and
many of those areas in which we
the national science challenges and
many of those areas in which we
many of those areas in which we as a
Government
many of those areas in which we as a
Government continue
many of those areas in which we as a
Government continue to
many of those areas in which we as a
Government continue to
Government continue to invest
heavily into
Government continue to invest
heavily into
Government continue to invest
heavily into that issue, into that
Government continue to invest
heavily into that issue, into that
heavily into that issue, into that
area. When I look
heavily into that issue, into that
area. When I look
heavily into that issue, into that
area. When I look at the
heavily into that issue, into that
area. When I look at the
area. When I look at the tertiary
sector
area. When I look at the tertiary
sector as
area. When I look at the tertiary
sector as a whole I
area. When I look at the tertiary
sector as a whole I
sector as a whole I see it breaking
down
sector as a whole I see it breaking
down
sector as a whole I see it breaking
down into four parts. Part
sector as a whole I see it breaking
down into four parts. Part
down into four parts. Part of it is
all
down into four parts. Part of it is
all
down into four parts. Part of it is
all around a lot
down into four parts. Part of it is
all around a lot
down into four parts. Part of it is
all around a lot of investment we
down into four parts. Part of it is
all around a lot of investment we
all around a lot of investment we
make
all around a lot of investment we
make at that
all around a lot of investment we
make at that
all around a lot of investment we
make at that foundation level, which
all around a lot of investment we
make at that foundation level, which
make at that foundation level, which
is trying to find that
make at that foundation level, which
is trying to find that
make at that foundation level, which
is trying to find that spark
make at that foundation level, which
is trying to find that spark of
is trying to find that spark of
inspiration for young
is trying to find that spark of
inspiration for young people
inspiration for young people who
haven't come
inspiration for young people who
haven't come
inspiration for young people who
haven't come out of
inspiration for young people who
haven't come out of
inspiration for young people who
haven't come out of the schooling
inspiration for young people who
haven't come out of the schooling
haven't come out of the schooling
system connected
haven't come out of the schooling
system connected yet
system connected yet and really
trying to
system connected yet and really
trying to reconnect
trying to reconnect them with
education
trying to reconnect them with
education
trying to reconnect them with
education so that they
trying to reconnect them with
education so that they
trying to reconnect them with
education so that they can get
trying to reconnect them with
education so that they can get
education so that they can get back
into learning
education so that they can get back
into learning and
education so that they can get back
into learning and into
education so that they can get back
into learning and into a
education so that they can get back
into learning and into a job. We
education so that they can get back
into learning and into a job. We
into learning and into a job. We
have a
into learning and into a job. We
have a
into learning and into a job. We
have a number of programmes
into learning and into a job. We
have a number of programmes
into learning and into a job. We
have a number of programmes that we
into learning and into a job. We
have a number of programmes that we
have a number of programmes that we
fund such
have a number of programmes that we
fund such
have a number of programmes that we
fund such as
have a number of programmes that we
fund such as youth guarantee,
have a number of programmes that we
fund such as youth guarantee, the
fund such as youth guarantee, the
SAC level
fund such as youth guarantee, the
SAC level
fund such as youth guarantee, the
SAC level 1
fund such as youth guarantee, the
SAC level 1 reign
SAC level 1 reign 2 funding, Maori
and
SAC level 1 reign 2 funding, Maori
and
SAC level 1 reign 2 funding, Maori
and Pacific
SAC level 1 reign 2 funding, Maori
and Pacific Trade training and
SAC level 1 reign 2 funding, Maori
and Pacific Trade training and
and Pacific Trade training and a
whole bunch
and Pacific Trade training and a
whole bunch
and Pacific Trade training and a
whole bunch of schemes
and Pacific Trade training and a
whole bunch of schemes
whole bunch of schemes designed to
reconnect those
whole bunch of schemes designed to
reconnect those
whole bunch of schemes designed to
reconnect those kid. Our focus
whole bunch of schemes designed to
reconnect those kid. Our focus over
reconnect those kid. Our focus over
the next
reconnect those kid. Our focus over
the next little
reconnect those kid. Our focus over
the next little while will be
the next little while will be
continuing
the next little while will be
continuing to evaluate
the next little while will be
continuing to evaluate them.
continuing to evaluate them. Some
work very well
continuing to evaluate them. Some
work very well
continuing to evaluate them. Some
work very well and
work very well and some work
brilliantly in one
work very well and some work
brilliantly in one
work very well and some work
brilliantly in one part
work very well and some work
brilliantly in one part of the
work very well and some work
brilliantly in one part of the
brilliantly in one part of the
country in
brilliantly in one part of the
country in
brilliantly in one part of the
country in Gisborne but not so
brilliantly in one part of the
country in Gisborne but not so
country in Gisborne but not so well
in
country in Gisborne but not so well
in
country in Gisborne but not so well
in the south island. Others
country in Gisborne but not so well
in the south island. Others
country in Gisborne but not so well
in the south island. Others will
in the south island. Others will
work well in
in the south island. Others will
work well in other
in the south island. Others will
work well in other areas. The focus
in the south island. Others will
work well in other areas. The focus
work well in other areas. The focus
is
work well in other areas. The focus
is on
work well in other areas. The focus
is on the effectiveness of
work well in other areas. The focus
is on the effectiveness of
is on the effectiveness of those
regimes. We want
is on the effectiveness of those
regimes. We want
is on the effectiveness of those
regimes. We want to make sure
is on the effectiveness of those
regimes. We want to make sure
regimes. We want to make sure they
work effectively to
regimes. We want to make sure they
work effectively to
work effectively to try to reduce
that
work effectively to try to reduce
that
work effectively to try to reduce
that group. Next is
work effectively to try to reduce
that group. Next is
that group. Next is the broader
skills
that group. Next is the broader
skills
that group. Next is the broader
skills category with we
that group. Next is the broader
skills category with we
skills category with we are trying
skills category with we are trying
skills category with we are trying
skills category with we are trying
skills category with we are trying
skills category with we are trying
Productivity Commission report that
will
Productivity Commission report that
Productivity Commission report that
Productivity Commission report that
Productivity Commission report that
be delivering our response to
shortly.
be delivering our response to
shortly.
be delivering our response to
shortly. It
be delivering our response to
shortly. It is all about trying to
be delivering our response to
shortly. It is all about trying to
shortly. It is all about trying to
ensure that
shortly. It is all about trying to
ensure that
shortly. It is all about trying to
ensure that the system is
shortly. It is all about trying to
ensure that the system is
ensure that the system is generating
the skills
ensure that the system is generating
the skills
ensure that the system is generating
the skills that we need
ensure that the system is generating
the skills that we need
ensure that the system is generating
the skills that we need as an
ensure that the system is generating
the skills that we need as an
the skills that we need as an
economy right
the skills that we need as an
economy right
the skills that we need as an
economy right here, right now.
the skills that we need as an
economy right here, right now. We're
economy right here, right now. We're
in the
economy right here, right now. We're
in the
economy right here, right now. We're
in the situation where more
economy right here, right now. We're
in the situation where more
economy right here, right now. We're
in the situation where more than
in the situation where more than
11,000
in the situation where more than
11,000 jobs have
in the situation where more than
11,000 jobs have
11,000 jobs have been created every
month.
11,000 jobs have been created every
month. There
11,000 jobs have been created every
month. There is
11,000 jobs have been created every
month. There is
11,000 jobs have been created every
month. There is a desperate
11,000 jobs have been created every
11,000 jobs have been created every
11,000 jobs have been created every
is a real call out for skills in so
many
is a real call out for skills in so
many areas.
is a real call out for skills in so
many areas.
is a real call out for skills in so
many areas. Our
is a real call out for skills in so
many areas. Our tertiary sector is
is a real call out for skills in so
many areas. Our tertiary sector is
many areas. Our tertiary sector is
capable of delivering those
many areas. Our tertiary sector is
capable of delivering those skills
capable of delivering those skills
and we
capable of delivering those skills
and we
capable of delivering those skills
and we want to ensure that
capable of delivering those skills
and we want to ensure that it
and we want to ensure that it
continues to do that
and we want to ensure that it
continues to do that
and we want to ensure that it
continues to do that over the next
and we want to ensure that it
continues to do that over the next
continues to do that over the next
years and
continues to do that over the next
years and is
years and is responsive and
innovative and that
years and is responsive and
innovative and that
innovative and that students have
the
innovative and that students have
the
innovative and that students have
the information that
innovative and that students have
the information that
innovative and that students have
the information that they
the information that they have
available to them to
the information that they have
available to them to
available to them to make wise
choices about the
available to them to make wise
choices about the courses
available to them to make wise
the
available to them to make wise
the
available to them to make wise
take. So there is a lot
available to them to make wise
take. So there is a lot of
take. So there is a lot of work
going on in
take. So there is a lot of work
going on in
take. So there is a lot of work
going on in that
take. So there is a lot of work
going on in that area and
take. So there is a lot of work
going on in that area and
going on in that area and that is
why this
going on in that area and that is
why this
going on in that area and that is
why this Budget that we're
going on in that area and that is
why this Budget that we're
why this Budget that we're talking
about has
why this Budget that we're talking
about has
why this Budget that we're talking
about has increased the
why this Budget that we're talking
about has increased the
about has increased the overall
funding
about has increased the overall
funding
about has increased the overall
funding for
about has increased the overall
funding for tuition rates
about has increased the overall
funding for tuition rates across
funding for tuition rates across the
funding for tuition rates across the
funding for tuition rates across the
board. Other
funding for tuition rates across the
board. Other areas
funding for tuition rates across the
board. Other areas
board. Other areas are around
ensuring
board. Other areas are around
ensuring
board. Other areas are around
ensuring that we maintain
board. Other areas are around
ensuring that we maintain
board. Other areas are around
ensuring that we maintain that
board. Other areas are around
ensuring that we maintain that real
ensuring that we maintain that real
universities so that New Zealanders
have
universities so that New Zealanders
have access to that
universities so that New Zealanders
have access to that and
universities so that New Zealanders
have access to that and that is
universities so that New Zealanders
have access to that and that is
have access to that and that is why
we continue to
have access to that and that is why
we continue to
have access to that and that is why
we continue to put extra
have access to that and that is why
we continue to put extra
have access to that and that is why
we continue to put extra resources
we continue to put extra resources
into
we continue to put extra resources
into the
we continue to put extra resources
into the PBRF,
we continue to put extra resources
we continue to put extra resources
responds and reflects to the higher
responds and reflects to the higher
responds and reflects to the higher
quality research side
responds and reflects to the higher
quality research side
responds and reflects to the higher
quality research side of
quality research side of what
universities do. We
quality research side of what
universities do. We
quality research side of what
universities do. We continue
quality research side of what
universities do. We continue and can
universities do. We continue and can
consistently
universities do. We continue and can
consistently invested in that
universities do. We continue and can
consistently invested in that area
consistently invested in that area
as we
consistently invested in that area
as we
consistently invested in that area
as we have in
consistently invested in that area
as we have in
consistently invested in that area
as we have in the broader
consistently invested in that area
as we have in the broader
as we have in the broader science
factor,
as we have in the broader science
factor,
as we have in the broader science
factor, which a
as we have in the broader science
factor, which a significant
factor, which a significant amount
of
factor, which a significant amount
of
factor, which a significant amount
of our science
factor, which a significant amount
of our science
factor, which a significant amount
of our science funding,
a year is channelled through The
a year is channelled through The
a year is channelled through The
Treasury sector as
a year is channelled through The
Treasury sector as
a year is channelled through The
Treasury sector as well. On
a year is channelled through The
Treasury sector as well. On the
Treasury sector as well. On the
international side the
Treasury sector as well. On the
international side the
international side the Budget has
extra
international side the Budget has
extra
international side the Budget has
extra resources
international side the Budget has
extra resources for
international side the Budget has
extra resources for
international side the Budget has
extra resources for Education
international side the Budget has
extra resources for Education NZ,
international side the Budget has
extra resources for Education NZ,
extra resources for Education NZ,
4.5 billion
extra resources for Education NZ,
4.5 billion
extra resources for Education NZ,
4.5 billion industry, very
extra resources for Education NZ,
4.5 billion industry, very
4.5 billion industry, very important
for employers.
4.5 billion industry, very important
for employers.
4.5 billion industry, very important
for employers. Upwards
4.5 billion industry, very important
for employers. Upwards of
4.5 billion industry, very important
for employers. Upwards of 30,000
for employers. Upwards of 30,000 New
Zealanders. We don't
for employers. Upwards of 30,000 New
Zealanders. We don't
for employers. Upwards of 30,000 New
Zealanders. We don't take the view
Zealanders. We don't take the view
Zealanders. We don't take the view
Zealanders. We don't take the view
that you should slash
Zealanders. We don't take the view
that you should slash the
that you should slash the whole
industry in
that you should slash the whole
industry in
that you should slash the whole
industry in half as
that you should slash the whole
industry in half as
industry in half as some other
parties do. We
industry in half as some other
parties do. We
industry in half as some other
parties do. We think it is
industry in half as some other
parties do. We think it is
parties do. We think it is an
important industry and
parties do. We think it is an
important industry and
parties do. We think it is an
important industry and it is
parties do. We think it is an
important industry and it is about
important industry and it is about
diverse feeing the New Zealand
important industry and it is about
diverse feeing the New Zealand
diverse feeing the New Zealand
economy and the focus
diverse feeing the New Zealand
economy and the focus
diverse feeing the New Zealand
economy and the focus should be
diverse feeing the New Zealand
economy and the focus should be
economy and the focus should be on
dealing
economy and the focus should be on
dealing
economy and the focus should be on
dealing with
economy and the focus should be on
dealing with poor performance
economy and the focus should be on
dealing with poor performance
dealing with poor performance that
undoubtedly there is in
dealing with poor performance that
undoubtedly there is in
undoubtedly there is in areas of
that
undoubtedly there is in areas of
that
undoubtedly there is in areas of
that sector where we
undoubtedly there is in areas of
that sector where we have
undoubtedly there is in areas of
that sector where we have got the
that sector where we have got the
regulators
that sector where we have got the
regulators working
that sector where we have got the
regulators working
that sector where we have got the
regulators working very hard
that sector where we have got the
regulators working very hard
that sector where we have got the
regulators working very hard in that
that sector where we have got the
regulators working very hard in that
regulators working very hard in that
area to rein
regulators working very hard in that
area to rein
regulators working very hard in that
area to rein in poor
regulators working very hard in that
area to rein in poor
area to rein in poor performance but
overall a
area to rein in poor performance but
overall a very
area to rein in poor performance but
overall a very important sector and
overall a very important sector and
we
overall a very important sector and
we continue to
overall a very important sector and
we continue to support
Delahunty.
Delahunty.
Delahunty.
Delahunty.
Delahunty.
this estimates debate is always
this estimates debate is always
this estimates debate is always
worth participating in because
this estimates debate is always
worth participating in because
worth participating in because there
is such
worth participating in because there
is such
worth participating in because there
is such a huge gap
worth participating in because there
is such a huge gap
is such a huge gap between the
rhetoric and
is such a huge gap between the
rhetoric and
is such a huge gap between the
rhetoric and what we say and
is such a huge gap between the
rhetoric and what we say and
rhetoric and what we say and all the
numbers
rhetoric and what we say and all the
numbers
rhetoric and what we say and all the
numbers we throw around in
rhetoric and what we say and all the
numbers we throw around in
numbers we throw around in this
House and
numbers we throw around in this
House and
numbers we throw around in this
House and then
numbers we throw around in this
House and then what happens when you
House and then what happens when you
go
House and then what happens when you
go out and talk to
House and then what happens when you
go out and talk to
House and then what happens when you
go out and talk to people. There
House and then what happens when you
go out and talk to people. There
go out and talk to people. There is
such a
go out and talk to people. There is
such a big
go out and talk to people. There is
such a big credibility gap in.
go out and talk to people. There is
such a big credibility gap in. The