Energy from floating algae pods
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0:01 - 0:03Some years ago, I set out to try to understand
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0:03 - 0:06if there was a possibility to develop biofuels
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0:06 - 0:11on a scale that would actually compete with fossil fuels
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0:11 - 0:14but not compete with agriculture for water,
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0:14 - 0:17fertilizer or land.
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0:17 - 0:18So here's what I came up with.
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0:18 - 0:20Imagine that we build an enclosure where we put it
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0:20 - 0:22just underwater, and we fill it with wastewater
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0:22 - 0:25and some form of microalgae that produces oil,
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0:25 - 0:27and we make it out of some kind of flexible material
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0:27 - 0:29that moves with waves underwater,
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0:29 - 0:32and the system that we're going to build, of course,
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0:32 - 0:34will use solar energy to grow the algae,
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0:34 - 0:36and they use CO2, which is good,
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0:36 - 0:38and they produce oxygen as they grow.
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0:38 - 0:42The algae that grow are in a container that
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0:42 - 0:45distributes the heat to the surrounding water,
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0:45 - 0:47and you can harvest them and make biofuels
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0:47 - 0:50and cosmetics and fertilizer and animal feed,
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0:50 - 0:53and of course you'd have to make a large area of this,
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0:53 - 0:55so you'd have to worry about other stakeholders
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0:55 - 0:59like fishermen and ships and such things, but hey,
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0:59 - 1:02we're talking about biofuels,
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1:02 - 1:04and we know the importance of potentially getting
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1:04 - 1:06an alternative liquid fuel.
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1:06 - 1:09Why are we talking about microalgae?
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1:09 - 1:13Here you see a graph showing you the different types
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1:13 - 1:17of crops that are being considered for making biofuels,
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1:17 - 1:19so you can see some things like soybean,
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1:19 - 1:21which makes 50 gallons per acre per year,
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1:21 - 1:27or sunflower or canola or jatropha or palm, and that
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1:27 - 1:31tall graph there shows what microalgae can contribute.
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1:31 - 1:34That is to say, microalgae contributes between 2,000
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1:34 - 1:36and 5,000 gallons per acre per year,
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1:36 - 1:40compared to the 50 gallons per acre per year from soy.
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1:40 - 1:43So what are microalgae? Microalgae are micro --
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1:43 - 1:45that is, they're extremely small, as you can see here
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1:45 - 1:48a picture of those single-celled organisms
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1:48 - 1:51compared to a human hair.
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1:51 - 1:53Those small organisms have been around
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1:53 - 1:56for millions of years and there's thousands
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1:56 - 1:58of different species of microalgae in the world,
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1:58 - 2:01some of which are the fastest-growing plants on the planet,
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2:01 - 2:04and produce, as I just showed you, lots and lots of oil.
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2:04 - 2:07Now, why do we want to do this offshore?
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2:07 - 2:10Well, the reason we're doing this offshore is because
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2:10 - 2:15if you look at our coastal cities, there isn't a choice,
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2:15 - 2:18because we're going to use waste water, as I suggested,
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2:18 - 2:19and if you look at where most of the waste water
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2:19 - 2:23treatment plants are, they're embedded in the cities.
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2:23 - 2:27This is the city of San Francisco, which has 900 miles
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2:27 - 2:29of sewer pipes under the city already,
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2:29 - 2:33and it releases its waste water offshore.
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2:33 - 2:37So different cities around the world treat their waste water
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2:37 - 2:40differently. Some cities process it.
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2:40 - 2:41Some cities just release the water.
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2:41 - 2:44But in all cases, the water that's released is
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2:44 - 2:47perfectly adequate for growing microalgae.
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2:47 - 2:49So let's envision what the system might look like.
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2:49 - 2:51We call it OMEGA, which is an acronym for
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2:51 - 2:55Offshore Membrane Enclosures for Growing Algae.
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2:55 - 2:58At NASA, you have to have good acronyms.
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2:58 - 3:00So how does it work? I sort of showed you how it works already.
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3:00 - 3:04We put waste water and some source of CO2
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3:04 - 3:07into our floating structure,
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3:07 - 3:11and the waste water provides nutrients for the algae to grow,
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3:11 - 3:14and they sequester CO2 that would otherwise go off
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3:14 - 3:16into the atmosphere as a greenhouse gas.
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3:16 - 3:18They of course use solar energy to grow,
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3:18 - 3:21and the wave energy on the surface provides energy
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3:21 - 3:23for mixing the algae, and the temperature
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3:23 - 3:26is controlled by the surrounding water temperature.
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3:26 - 3:29The algae that grow produce oxygen, as I've mentioned,
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3:29 - 3:33and they also produce biofuels and fertilizer and food and
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3:33 - 3:36other bi-algal products of interest.
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3:36 - 3:39And the system is contained. What do I mean by that?
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3:39 - 3:42It's modular. Let's say something happens that's
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3:42 - 3:44totally unexpected to one of the modules.
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3:44 - 3:46It leaks. It's struck by lightning.
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3:46 - 3:49The waste water that leaks out is water that already now
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3:49 - 3:51goes into that coastal environment, and
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3:51 - 3:53the algae that leak out are biodegradable,
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3:53 - 3:54and because they're living in waste water,
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3:54 - 3:57they're fresh water algae, which means they can't
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3:57 - 3:59live in salt water, so they die.
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3:59 - 4:01The plastic we'll build it out of is some kind of
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4:01 - 4:04well-known plastic that we have good experience with, and
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4:04 - 4:09we'll rebuild our modules to be able to reuse them again.
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4:09 - 4:12So we may be able to go beyond that when thinking about
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4:12 - 4:15this system that I'm showing you, and that is to say
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4:15 - 4:18we need to think in terms of the water, the fresh water,
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4:18 - 4:20which is also going to be an issue in the future,
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4:20 - 4:22and we're working on methods now
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4:22 - 4:24for recovering the waste water.
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4:24 - 4:27The other thing to consider is the structure itself.
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4:27 - 4:30It provides a surface for things in the ocean,
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4:30 - 4:33and this surface, which is covered by seaweeds
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4:33 - 4:36and other organisms in the ocean,
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4:36 - 4:40will become enhanced marine habitat
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4:40 - 4:42so it increases biodiversity.
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4:42 - 4:44And finally, because it's an offshore structure,
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4:44 - 4:47we can think in terms of how it might contribute
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4:47 - 4:50to an aquaculture activity offshore.
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4:50 - 4:52So you're probably thinking, "Gee, this sounds
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4:52 - 4:56like a good idea. What can we do to try to see if it's real?"
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4:56 - 5:00Well, I set up laboratories in Santa Cruz
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5:00 - 5:03at the California Fish and Game facility,
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5:03 - 5:06and that facility allowed us to have big seawater tanks
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5:06 - 5:08to test some of these ideas.
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5:08 - 5:11We also set up experiments in San Francisco
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5:11 - 5:14at one of the three waste water treatment plants,
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5:14 - 5:16again a facility to test ideas.
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5:16 - 5:19And finally, we wanted to see where we could look at
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5:19 - 5:22what the impact of this structure would be
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5:22 - 5:26in the marine environment, and we set up a field site
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5:26 - 5:28at a place called Moss Landing Marine Lab
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5:28 - 5:31in Monterey Bay, where we worked in a harbor
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5:31 - 5:35to see what impact this would have on marine organisms.
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5:35 - 5:39The laboratory that we set up in Santa Cruz was our skunkworks.
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5:39 - 5:41It was a place where we were growing algae
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5:41 - 5:44and welding plastic and building tools
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5:44 - 5:46and making a lot of mistakes,
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5:46 - 5:48or, as Edison said, we were
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5:48 - 5:51finding the 10,000 ways that the system wouldn't work.
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5:51 - 5:55Now, we grew algae in waste water, and we built tools
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5:55 - 5:59that allowed us to get into the lives of algae
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5:59 - 6:00so that we could monitor the way they grow,
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6:00 - 6:03what makes them happy, how do we make sure that
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6:03 - 6:07we're going to have a culture that will survive and thrive.
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6:07 - 6:10So the most important feature that we needed to develop were these
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6:10 - 6:13so-called photobioreactors, or PBRs.
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6:13 - 6:14These were the structures that would be floating at the
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6:14 - 6:18surface made out of some inexpensive plastic material
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6:18 - 6:20that'll allow the algae to grow, and we had built lots and lots
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6:20 - 6:23of designs, most of which were horrible failures,
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6:23 - 6:26and when we finally got to a design that worked,
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6:26 - 6:28at about 30 gallons, we scaled it up
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6:28 - 6:32to 450 gallons in San Francisco.
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6:32 - 6:34So let me show you how the system works.
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6:34 - 6:38We basically take waste water with algae of our choice in it,
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6:38 - 6:40and we circulate it through this floating structure,
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6:40 - 6:43this tubular, flexible plastic structure,
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6:43 - 6:44and it circulates through this thing,
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6:44 - 6:47and there's sunlight of course, it's at the surface,
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6:47 - 6:50and the algae grow on the nutrients.
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6:50 - 6:52But this is a bit like putting your head in a plastic bag.
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6:52 - 6:55The algae are not going to suffocate because of CO2,
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6:55 - 6:56as we would.
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6:56 - 6:59They suffocate because they produce oxygen, and they
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6:59 - 7:01don't really suffocate, but the oxygen that they produce
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7:01 - 7:04is problematic, and they use up all the CO2.
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7:04 - 7:06So the next thing we had to figure out was how we could
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7:06 - 7:10remove the oxygen, which we did by building this column
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7:10 - 7:11which circulated some of the water,
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7:11 - 7:15and put back CO2, which we did by bubbling the system
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7:15 - 7:17before we recirculated the water.
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7:17 - 7:19And what you see here is the prototype,
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7:19 - 7:23which was the first attempt at building this type of column.
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7:23 - 7:25The larger column that we then installed in San Francisco
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7:25 - 7:27in the installed system.
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7:27 - 7:30So the column actually had another very nice feature,
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7:30 - 7:33and that is the algae settle in the column,
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7:33 - 7:37and this allowed us to accumulate the algal biomass
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7:37 - 7:40in a context where we could easily harvest it.
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7:40 - 7:42So we would remove the algaes that concentrated
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7:42 - 7:45in the bottom of this column, and then we could
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7:45 - 7:49harvest that by a procedure where you float the algae
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7:49 - 7:53to the surface and can skim it off with a net.
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7:53 - 7:56So we wanted to also investigate what would be the impact
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7:56 - 7:59of this system in the marine environment,
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7:59 - 8:03and I mentioned we set up this experiment at a field site
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8:03 - 8:05in Moss Landing Marine Lab.
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8:05 - 8:08Well, we found of course that this material became
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8:08 - 8:11overgrown with algae, and we needed then to develop
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8:11 - 8:13a cleaning procedure, and we also looked at how
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8:13 - 8:16seabirds and marine mammals interacted, and in fact you
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8:16 - 8:19see here a sea otter that found this incredibly interesting,
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8:19 - 8:22and would periodically work its way across this little
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8:22 - 8:25floating water bed, and we wanted to hire this guy
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8:25 - 8:27or train him to be able to clean the surface
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8:27 - 8:30of these things, but that's for the future.
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8:30 - 8:31Now really what we were doing,
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8:31 - 8:33we were working in four areas.
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8:33 - 8:36Our research covered the biology of the system,
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8:36 - 8:38which included studying the way algae grew,
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8:38 - 8:41but also what eats the algae, and what kills the algae.
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8:41 - 8:44We did engineering to understand what we would need
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8:44 - 8:46to be able to do to build this structure,
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8:46 - 8:49not only on the small scale, but how we would build it
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8:49 - 8:52on this enormous scale that will ultimately be required.
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8:52 - 8:55I mentioned we looked at birds and marine mammals
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8:55 - 8:58and looked at basically the environmental impact
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8:58 - 9:01of the system, and finally we looked at the economics,
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9:01 - 9:02and what I mean by economics is,
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9:02 - 9:06what is the energy required to run the system?
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9:06 - 9:07Do you get more energy out of the system
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9:07 - 9:09than you have to put into the system
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9:09 - 9:11to be able to make the system run?
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9:11 - 9:12And what about operating costs?
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9:12 - 9:14And what about capital costs?
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9:14 - 9:18And what about, just, the whole economic structure?
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9:18 - 9:21So let me tell you that it's not going to be easy,
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9:21 - 9:24and there's lots more work to do in all four
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9:24 - 9:27of those areas to be able to really make the system work.
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9:27 - 9:30But we don't have a lot of time, and I'd like to show you
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9:30 - 9:34the artist's conception of how this system might look
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9:34 - 9:36if we find ourselves in a protected bay
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9:36 - 9:40somewhere in the world, and we have in the background
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9:40 - 9:42in this image, the waste water treatment plant
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9:42 - 9:45and a source of flue gas for the CO2,
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9:45 - 9:48but when you do the economics of this system,
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9:48 - 9:51you find that in fact it will be difficult to make it work.
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9:51 - 9:56Unless you look at the system as a way to treat waste water,
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9:56 - 9:59sequester carbon, and potentially for photovoltaic panels
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9:59 - 10:03or wave energy or even wind energy,
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10:03 - 10:04and if you start thinking in terms of
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10:04 - 10:07integrating all of these different activities,
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10:07 - 10:12you could also include in such a facility aquaculture.
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10:12 - 10:15So we would have under this system a shellfish aquaculture
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10:15 - 10:17where we're growing mussels or scallops.
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10:17 - 10:20We'd be growing oysters and things
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10:20 - 10:23that would be producing high value products and food,
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10:23 - 10:25and this would be a market driver as we build the system
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10:25 - 10:29to larger and larger scales so that it becomes, ultimately,
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10:29 - 10:35competitive with the idea of doing it for fuels.
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10:35 - 10:37So there's always a big question that comes up,
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10:37 - 10:41because plastic in the ocean has got a really bad reputation
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10:41 - 10:44right now, and so we've been thinking cradle to cradle.
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10:44 - 10:46What are we going to do with all this plastic that we're
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10:46 - 10:49going to need to use in our marine environment?
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10:49 - 10:51Well, I don't know if you know about this,
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10:51 - 10:53but in California, there's a huge amount of plastic
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10:53 - 10:57that's used in fields right now as plastic mulch,
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10:57 - 11:00and this is plastic that's making these tiny little greenhouses
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11:00 - 11:03right along the surface of the soil, and this provides
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11:03 - 11:06warming the soil to increase the growing season,
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11:06 - 11:08it allows us to control weeds,
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11:08 - 11:12and, of course, it makes the watering much more efficient.
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11:12 - 11:14So the OMEGA system will be part
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11:14 - 11:17of this type of an outcome, and that when we're finished
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11:17 - 11:20using it in the marine environment, we'll be using it,
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11:20 - 11:23hopefully, on fields.
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11:23 - 11:24Where are we going to put this,
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11:24 - 11:27and what will it look like offshore?
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11:27 - 11:29Here's an image of what we could do in San Francisco Bay.
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11:29 - 11:32San Francisco produces 65 million gallons a day
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11:32 - 11:35of waste water. If we imagine a five-day retention time
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11:35 - 11:37for this system, we'd need 325 million gallons
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11:37 - 11:41to accomodate, and that would be about 1,280 acres
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11:41 - 11:45of these OMEGA modules floating in San Francisco Bay.
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11:45 - 11:47Well, that's less than one percent
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11:47 - 11:48of the surface area of the bay.
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11:48 - 11:52It would produce, at 2,000 gallons per acre per year,
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11:52 - 11:55it would produce over 2 million gallons of fuel,
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11:55 - 11:57which is about 20 percent of the biodiesel,
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11:57 - 12:00or of the diesel that would be required in San Francisco,
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12:00 - 12:04and that's without doing anything about efficiency.
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12:04 - 12:07Where else could we potentially put this system?
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12:07 - 12:09There's lots of possibilities.
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12:09 - 12:12There's, of course, San Francisco Bay, as I mentioned.
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12:12 - 12:13San Diego Bay is another example,
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12:13 - 12:16Mobile Bay or Chesapeake Bay, but the reality is,
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12:16 - 12:18as sea level rises, there's going to be lots and lots
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12:18 - 12:22of new opportunities to consider. (Laughter)
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12:22 - 12:26So what I'm telling you about is a system
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12:26 - 12:29of integrated activities.
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12:29 - 12:32Biofuels production is integrated with alternative energy
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12:32 - 12:35is integrated with aquaculture.
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12:35 - 12:39I set out to find a pathway
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12:39 - 12:44to innovative production of sustainable biofuels,
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12:44 - 12:48and en route I discovered that what's really required
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12:48 - 12:55for sustainability is integration more than innovation.
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12:55 - 12:58Long term, I have great faith
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12:58 - 13:04in our collective and connected ingenuity.
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13:04 - 13:08I think there is almost no limit to what we can accomplish
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13:08 - 13:10if we are radically open
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13:10 - 13:14and we don't care who gets the credit.
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13:14 - 13:18Sustainable solutions for our future problems
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13:18 - 13:20are going to be diverse
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13:20 - 13:23and are going to be many.
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13:23 - 13:26I think we need to consider everything,
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13:26 - 13:29everything from alpha to OMEGA.
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13:29 - 13:32Thank you. (Applause)
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13:32 - 13:37(Applause)
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13:37 - 13:41Chris Anderson: Just a quick question for you, Jonathan.
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13:41 - 13:43Can this project continue to move forward within
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13:43 - 13:47NASA or do you need some very ambitious
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13:47 - 13:51green energy fund to come and take it by the throat?
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13:51 - 13:52Jonathan Trent: So it's really gotten to a stage now
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13:52 - 13:55in NASA where they would like to spin it out into something
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13:55 - 13:58which would go offshore, and there are a lot of issues
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13:58 - 14:00with doing it in the United States because of limited
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14:00 - 14:02permitting issues and the time required to get permits
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14:02 - 14:04to do things offshore.
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14:04 - 14:07It really requires, at this point, people on the outside,
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14:07 - 14:09and we're being radically open with this technology
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14:09 - 14:11in which we're going to launch it out there
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14:11 - 14:13for anybody and everybody who's interested
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14:13 - 14:15to take it on and try to make it real.
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14:15 - 14:17CA: So that's interesting. You're not patenting it.
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14:17 - 14:19You're publishing it.
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14:19 - 14:20JT: Absolutely.
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14:20 - 14:21CA: All right. Thank you so much.
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14:21 - 14:25JT: Thank you. (Applause)
- Title:
- Energy from floating algae pods
- Speaker:
- Jonathan Trent
- Description:
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Call it "fuel without fossils": Jonathan Trent is working on a plan to grow new biofuel by farming micro-algae in floating offshore pods that eat wastewater from cities. Hear his team's bold vision for Project OMEGA (Offshore Membrane Enclosures for Growing Algae) and how it might power the future.
- Video Language:
- English
- Team:
- closed TED
- Project:
- TEDTalks
- Duration:
- 14:45
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