No Sameness. No Otherness
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0:01 - 0:03No sameness, no otherness.
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0:04 - 0:08That is the nature of all that is.
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0:11 - 0:14When you look into your family album,
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0:14 - 0:23you see yourself as a five-year-old boy,
a five-year-old girl, and you ask, -
0:24 - 0:30"Am I the same person with this little boy
or am I a different person?" -
0:31 - 0:34Because now you look
so different from the little boy. -
0:38 - 0:40Your form, your feelings,
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0:40 - 0:45your perceptions, your mental formations,
your consciousness are very different -
0:45 - 0:49from the five aggregates
of the little boy. -
0:51 - 0:54So you are not the same
with the little boy -
0:54 - 0:56that used to be you.
-
0:58 - 1:02But you are not
a totally different person either. -
1:08 - 1:13So the truth is you are neither the same
nor a different one. -
1:18 - 1:22We know that
this plant of corn is the continuation -
1:22 - 1:28of the kernel of corn
that we planted several weeks ago. -
1:32 - 1:38And the grain of corn is still alive.
-
1:41 - 1:46Even if we do not see it
in the form we used to see it, -
1:46 - 1:48it is always there.
-
1:48 - 1:54We cannot remove the grain of corn
out of the plant of corn. -
1:54 - 2:00It is there, in every cell
of the corn stalk. -
2:02 - 2:06Those of us who know how to look deeply,
-
2:07 - 2:14we can see the presence of the kernel
of corn in every cell of the corn stalk. -
2:17 - 2:21The same thing is true with our parents.
-
2:22 - 2:26We may think that our father
has passed away, has died. -
2:27 - 2:30But our father is always alive in us.
-
2:31 - 2:35We can get in touch with our father
in every cell of our body, -
2:35 - 2:37and you can talk to your father,
-
2:37 - 2:40"Daddy, I know you are there."
-
2:41 - 2:44So a conversation between the son,
the daughter and the father -
2:44 - 2:50is always possible, even if the image
of the father you used to know -
2:50 - 2:53is no longer there.
-
2:53 - 2:57So the form of the corn kernel
is no longer there, -
2:58 - 3:03but the kernel of corn is always
there, -
3:06 - 3:08in other form.
-
3:10 - 3:14It is like this glass of tea.
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3:18 - 3:21The tea in this glass
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3:21 - 3:25is the continuation of the cloud
yesterday floating in the sky. -
3:26 - 3:29So the cloud has not really died.
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3:30 - 3:33The cloud has become the tea.
-
3:33 - 3:36When you look into the tea,
you see your beloved cloud. -
3:38 - 3:42"Hello, my dear little cloud,
I know you are still there." -
3:48 - 3:53The tea can talk to the cloud.
The cloud is inside of the tea. -
3:55 - 3:59"My cloud, you are my ancestor.
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3:59 - 4:04Yesterday you were in the sky,
and I was with you also. -
4:04 - 4:09Now I am in this cup, in the form of tea
and you are in me." -
4:12 - 4:16So the tea can talk to the cloud.
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4:16 - 4:19The cloud has not died.
-
4:22 - 4:25We have learned that
it is impossible for a cloud to die. -
4:26 - 4:30To die means that from something
you become nothing. -
4:32 - 4:35But it is impossible for a cloud
to become nothing. -
4:35 - 4:40It becomes rain, or snow, or ice,
but never nothing. -
4:45 - 4:47That is not possible.
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4:49 - 4:53If we look deeply
into the heart of things, -
4:54 - 4:58we found out that everything
has the nature of no-birth and no-death. -
5:00 - 5:06The cloud has not been born.
It just manifests in the form of a cloud. -
5:07 - 5:10The cloud has not come from nothing.
-
5:11 - 5:16The cloud has not come from the realm
of non-being into the realm of being. -
5:18 - 5:24Before taking the form of a cloud,
the cloud has been the water in the ocean. -
5:25 - 5:28So it has not come from nothing.
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5:28 - 5:33The nature of the cloud
is the nature of no-birth and no-death. -
5:35 - 5:40Not only the nature of the cloud
is like that, no-birth and no-death, -
5:41 - 5:45the nature of everything
is no-birth and no-death. -
5:45 - 5:50Your nature.
It is impossible for you to die. -
5:51 - 5:53You can never die.
-
5:54 - 5:58And interestingly enough,
modern science agrees with that. -
6:01 - 6:07We think of
the first law of thermodynamics. -
6:09 - 6:12The law of conservation
of matter and energy. -
6:12 - 6:17We know that matter cannot be destroyed.
-
6:19 - 6:22Matter cannot be created.
-
6:22 - 6:26You can transfer
one kind of matter into another kind. -
6:27 - 6:30You can transform matter into energy,
-
6:30 - 6:34you can transform one kind of energy
into another kind of energy, -
6:35 - 6:40and you can transform energy
back into matter. -
6:41 - 6:46But you cannot create matter or energy
and you cannot destroy them. -
6:47 - 6:52So the nature of matter and energy
is the nature of no-birth and no-death. -
6:53 - 6:58Antoine Lavoisier
has said that very beautifully, -
6:58 - 7:01"Rien ne se crée, rien ne se perds."
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7:01 - 7:05Nothing is born, nothing dies.
That is the truth! -
7:09 - 7:12So our cosmic body-
-
7:13 - 7:17We have a physical body,
but we have our cosmic body. -
7:21 - 7:23Our cosmic body is the Kingdom of God.
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7:26 - 7:30And in the Kingdom of God,
nothing is born, nothing dies. -
7:30 - 7:33The true nature of reality.
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7:35 - 7:39We had a beautiful example yesterday.
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7:40 - 7:43The image of a wave.
-
7:45 - 7:52When we look into a wave
that appears on the surface of the ocean, -
7:54 - 7:58we have the impression
the wave is fragile, impermanent. -
8:03 - 8:08The wave has her own body, wave body
-
8:08 - 8:11like we have a physical body.
-
8:12 - 8:17But the wave also has
her water body, ocean body. -
8:19 - 8:23And the moment when the wave
realizes that she has an ocean body, -
8:23 - 8:26she loses all fear.
-
8:26 - 8:29And she enjoys going up,
she enjoys going down. -
8:29 - 8:35She is no longer fearful, because she is
capable of touching her ocean body. -
8:39 - 8:46The wave suffers because she only knows
that she has a wave body, -
8:47 - 8:52she has a beginning, an end,
she has to go up and to go down, -
8:52 - 8:55she is not the other wave.
-
8:55 - 9:01All these notions, beginning, ending,
birth and death, going up and down, -
9:01 - 9:04make her suffer a lot.
-
9:04 - 9:10But the moment she realizes
that she is water, her ground is water, -
9:10 - 9:17she loses all these notions
and fear and anger and jealousy, -
9:17 - 9:19and she is happy.
-
9:19 - 9:23She enjoys going up,
she enjoys going down. -
9:24 - 9:29So when you touch your true nature,
you are free from birth and death. -
9:33 - 9:35Imagine a cloud in the sky.
-
9:36 - 9:42The cloud has his ocean body also.
-
9:43 - 9:47Because the cloud
has come also from the ocean. -
9:48 - 9:52The cloud has his cloud body.
-
9:52 - 9:56But it also has its ocean body.
-
10:00 - 10:03When we look at the cloud body,
-
10:03 - 10:07we have the impression
that it is something fragile. -
10:07 - 10:09Impermanent.
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10:09 - 10:15But if the cloud realizes
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10:15 - 10:20that he has a water body,
an ocean body, -
10:21 - 10:26then he is no longer afraid of dying
because dying is impossible. -
10:27 - 10:29To die is impossible.
-
10:29 - 10:32Interestingly enough, the teaching
of no-birth and no-death -
10:33 - 10:38goes perfectly with the findings
of modern science. -
10:40 - 10:47Things change but they are not born,
they do not die. -
10:47 - 10:51"Rien ne se crée, rien ne se perds.
Tout se transforme." -
10:53 - 10:57That is the first characteristic
of the bijas, -
10:59 - 11:04of the seeds in alayavijñana,
store consciousness. -
11:10 - 11:15We have blood ancestors.
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11:17 - 11:21Our father, our mother,
our grandfather, our grandmother -
11:24 - 11:27that are alive in us.
-
11:27 - 11:30Don't think that they have died.
-
11:32 - 11:35It is impossible for the ancestors to die.
-
11:36 - 11:39It is like the grain of corn.
-
11:39 - 11:42She is always alive in the plant of corn.
-
11:42 - 11:46The plant of corn carries
the seed of corn always with it. -
11:47 - 11:51We carry our father, our mother,
our ancestors -
11:51 - 11:56in every cell of our body and we can
talk to them at any time. -
11:56 - 11:59When we walk, our ancestors walk.
-
11:59 - 12:06If you can make peaceful,
happy, joyful steps, -
12:06 - 12:13our ancestors enjoy these happy,
peaceful, joyful steps at the same time. -
12:13 - 12:18So you do not walk just for yourself.
You walk for your ancestors. -
12:19 - 12:23And when you breathe in mindfully
and enjoy the fresh air, -
12:23 - 12:29your ancestors in you also breathe in
at the same time and enjoy the fresh air. -
12:30 - 12:34Because their nature is
the nature of no-birth and no-death. -
12:36 - 12:44We also have our spiritual ancestors,
Mohammed, Jesus, Buddha, Abraham. -
12:46 - 12:50We are the continuation of our ancestors.
-
12:50 - 12:53We have to find our ancestors in us.
-
12:53 - 13:00The safest space to be in touch with
our spiritual ancestors is in us. -
13:01 - 13:04If you are a good practitioner
of Christianity, -
13:04 - 13:10Jesus is always alive in yourself,
because he is your spiritual ancestor. -
13:11 - 13:16When you walk, he walks with you,
when you breathe, he breathes with you. -
13:17 - 13:25So Jesus Christ is always available
in our daily life. -
13:25 - 13:30The same thing is true
with a Buddhist practitioner. -
13:30 - 13:34If we practice mindful walking,
mindful breathing, -
13:34 - 13:39the Buddha in us practices
mindful breathing, mindful walking -
13:39 - 13:41at the same time.
-
13:42 - 13:45The Buddha is always alive in us.
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13:45 - 13:48Jesus Christ is always alive in us.
-
13:49 - 13:52Because we have received the teaching,
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13:53 - 13:57we are born spiritually
from our root teacher. -
13:57 - 14:04That is why it is possible for us to talk,
to dialogue with our spiritual ancestors -
14:04 - 14:06at any time.
-
14:07 - 14:10Like the plant of corn.
-
14:10 - 14:14She knows that the corn kernel
is still alive -
14:14 - 14:18and she can talk to
the corn kernel at any time. -
14:23 - 14:31In the case you had difficult ancestors,
a difficult father, a difficult mother, -
14:33 - 14:37in the case that there is
a difficult relationship with the father, -
14:37 - 14:40with the mother, with a brother,
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14:46 - 14:51we can still talk to them and
help them to transform in us. -
14:57 - 15:00This is a good practice.
-
15:02 - 15:08Suppose our father
had a lot of difficulties, -
15:10 - 15:14and there is a lot of suffering in him,
a lot of difficulties in him, -
15:15 - 15:19but he did not know
how to take care, to handle, -
15:19 - 15:22to transform the suffering in him.
-
15:23 - 15:28That is why he remains always
the victim of his own suffering. -
15:30 - 15:33And his suffering is transmitted to you.
-
15:36 - 15:40That is why sometimes you suffer and
you do not know why you suffer. -
15:40 - 15:44Because the suffering of the father
has been transmitted -
15:44 - 15:47to the son or the daughter.
-
15:48 - 15:51You can talk to your father inside,
-
15:51 - 15:56"Daddy, I know that you suffered
quite a lot. You were not lucky. -
15:56 - 16:01You have not met
a spiritual friend, a teacher, -
16:01 - 16:04and did not know how to transform it.
-
16:04 - 16:07But now I have the chance
to meet a spiritual friend, -
16:07 - 16:10the teaching and a teacher,
-
16:10 - 16:14and I'm going to practice in order to
transform the suffering in me. -
16:14 - 16:17That is your suffering also.
-
16:17 - 16:22If I transform the suffering in me,
then you are transformed also in me". -
16:22 - 16:25So everything you do for yourself,
you do for your father, -
16:25 - 16:29your mother, your ancestors.
-
16:29 - 16:33There are young people
who are so angry at their father -
16:34 - 16:39that they cannot talk to their father,
they cannot look at their father, -
16:39 - 16:46they can say, "That person, I don't want
to have anything to do with him." -
16:48 - 16:52There are young people who talk like that.
-
16:52 - 16:56It looks like they don't want to have
anything to do with their father. -
16:56 - 17:01But the truth is that they are
the continuation of their father. -
17:01 - 17:03They are their father.
-
17:03 - 17:07It is impossible
to remove their father from them. -
17:08 - 17:11It is like this plant of corn.
-
17:11 - 17:14Suppose she is angry at the corn kernel.
-
17:15 - 17:22And she wants to remove
the corn kernel from her. -
17:22 - 17:24It is impossible!
-
17:26 - 17:29That is why there is only one way to do,
-
17:29 - 17:34to recognize your father inside of you
and try to understand the suffering -
17:34 - 17:38and try to transform.
-
17:39 - 17:43There is that practice,
-
17:43 - 17:49Breathing in, I see myself
as a five-year-old boy or girl. -
17:50 - 17:55Breathing out, I smile to the
five-year-old boy or girl in me. -
17:57 - 18:03Breathing in, I see the five-year--old boy
or girl in me is fragile, vulnerable. -
18:05 - 18:11Breathing out, I feel a lot of compassion
for that little boy, or little girl in me -
18:11 - 18:13who was me.
-
18:14 - 18:20Then, breathing in, I see my father
as a five-year-old boy. -
18:21 - 18:29Because our father has been also
a fragile, vulnerable little boy. -
18:29 - 18:35And as a fragile, vulnerable little boy,
he suffered also. -
18:36 - 18:40When we are able to see
the suffering of our father, -
18:40 - 18:43suddenly our anger disappears.
-
18:46 - 18:51When we see the suffering and the origin
of the suffering in our father, -
18:53 - 18:56we don't want to punish him anymore.
-
18:56 - 19:01Instead, we want to do something,
to say something to help him suffer less. -
19:01 - 19:07Our anger has transformed into compassion.
-
19:07 - 19:10Meditation has that power.
-
19:11 - 19:13When you recognize the suffering,
-
19:14 - 19:16when you recognize the suffering,
-
19:16 - 19:20when you begin to understand
the nature of suffering, -
19:23 - 19:25in him or in her,
-
19:28 - 19:32compassion is born in your heart.
-
19:32 - 19:36And when compassion is born,
you don't suffer anymore. -
19:37 - 19:40You don't want to punish anymore.
-
19:40 - 19:44You can say nice things to him or to her.
-
19:44 - 19:50You can listen with compassion,
you can restore communication. -
19:51 - 19:58You can help him or her to suffer less
and you can bring about reconciliation. -
19:58 - 20:01And that can be done quickly also.
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20:02 - 20:11We need insight in order to make
compassion arise in our heart. -
20:15 - 20:20"Daddy, I know you have suffered
so much in the past, many years. -
20:22 - 20:26I haven't been able to help you
to suffer less. -
20:28 - 20:33And I have reacted in such a way that
have made you suffer more. I'm sorry. -
20:34 - 20:38It's not my intention, daddy,
to make you suffer. -
20:38 - 20:42It's just because I haven't seen
the suffering in you, -
20:42 - 20:45I haven't understood the suffering in you.
-
20:47 - 20:52Please, father, tell me of your suffering,
of your difficulties. -
20:52 - 20:55Please, help me to understand.
-
20:55 - 20:58I know that if
I understand your suffering, -
20:59 - 21:03I will not react like I have
and make you suffer more. -
21:03 - 21:05Please, help me."
-
21:05 - 21:09That is the kind of speech called
loving speech. -
21:09 - 21:13You can use it when
there is compassion in your heart. -
21:13 - 21:15When you speak like that,
he will open his heart -
21:16 - 21:20and tell you about
what is in his heart. -
21:20 - 21:24And that practice of deep listening
is very healing. -
21:25 - 21:29Listening with compassion
you make a person suffer less. -
21:30 - 21:35Then, you can restore communication
and heal the wounds. -
21:35 - 21:46Even if your father is no longer
in the form you used to recognize. -
21:48 - 21:53Many decades ago, two decades ago,
there was a young American -
21:53 - 21:57who came to the Upper Hamlet here
to practice. -
21:58 - 22:04He had his homework, to write
a love letter to his mother. -
22:06 - 22:10You do walking meditation, sitting
meditation for 2 or 3 days, -
22:12 - 22:15reflecting on your mother,
-
22:15 - 22:20and then you sit down and write
a love letter. That is a meditation. -
22:23 - 22:25And he was able to write
a wonderful letter -
22:26 - 22:30and reported that in the beginning,
he was very doubtful. -
22:30 - 22:36Because he was angry at his mother.
He couldn't communicate with his mother. -
22:36 - 22:39But because it's
an exercise of meditation, -
22:39 - 22:42he had to write a letter.
-
22:42 - 22:44But in order to write the letter,
-
22:44 - 22:48he had to practice breathing in and out
and calm his emotions. -
22:49 - 22:52And look into reality as it is.
-
22:52 - 22:57So during those 2 or 3 days he found out
many virtues of his mother. -
22:59 - 23:03Because when you are angry at someone,
-
23:03 - 23:06you only remember what is
not pleasant in him or in her. -
23:06 - 23:12But when you have enough time to look,
you can discover many wonderful things -
23:12 - 23:14in him or in her.
-
23:15 - 23:21So with that kind of discovery, he was
able to write a very beautiful letter. -
23:23 - 23:27After having finished the letter,
he felt wonderful. -
23:28 - 23:34He had found, he had rediscovered
his mother again. -
23:35 - 23:38He has a new mother.
-
23:38 - 23:42And when his mother read the letter,
she was transformed. -
23:43 - 23:46She rediscovered a beloved son.
-
23:48 - 23:50And he was healed.
-
23:50 - 23:54They were able to reconcile
just because of one letter. -
23:54 - 23:58She wrote to him,
-
23:59 - 24:05"My son, I'm so happy
that you wrote that letter. -
24:06 - 24:09I rediscovered my beloved son.
-
24:09 - 24:11I'm very proud of you.
-
24:12 - 24:19I want to write
a letter like that to my mom. -
24:20 - 24:23Your grandma.
-
24:25 - 24:28Because I did have difficulties
with your grandma. -
24:30 - 24:35But now she has passed away,
I have no chance to write such a letter. -
24:39 - 24:44That is why the condition is no longer
possible, when the other person has died." -
24:45 - 24:48The young man in Upper Hamlet
wrote back and said, -
24:48 - 24:52"Mother, write it anyway,
because my grandma is always alive in you. -
24:52 - 24:54(Laughter)
-
24:54 - 24:57If you sit down and look deeply
you will see -
24:58 - 25:01that grandma is always present
in every cell of your body. -
25:01 - 25:06And as you continue
and begin to write the letter, -
25:06 - 25:10my grandma will begin
to read it right away." -
25:11 - 25:15That is possible with the insight
of no-birth and no-death. -
25:16 - 25:22The non-duality between father and son,
mother and daughter and so on. -
25:22 - 25:24It's wonderful!
-
25:26 - 25:31The restoration of communication,
the reconciliation with other person -
25:31 - 25:34can take place in just
a few days of practice. -
25:37 - 25:40So if you have some difficulties
-
25:40 - 25:43in your relationships
with your father, your mother, -
25:43 - 25:46with your partner,
-
25:46 - 25:49do not allow the situation to continue.
-
25:49 - 25:53With the practice
we can transform the situation. -
25:54 - 25:58The practice of mindful breathing,
the practice of mindful walking, -
26:00 - 26:04will calm down our feelings, our emotions
-
26:05 - 26:09and allow us to look deeply
and to rediscover -
26:12 - 26:17and restore our beautiful relationship.
- Title:
- No Sameness. No Otherness
- Description:
-
No sameness. No otherness. That is the nature of all that is.
The retreat theme is "What Happens when we die?" at Plum Village, France. This is a 26-minute portion of the talk offered from the Stillwater Meditation Hall at Upper Hamlet on June 12, 2014.
In this talk we return to many common teachings of no-brith, no-death as illustrated by the corn seed and the corn plant, the cloud and the cup of tea, and seeing ourselves as a 5-year old child. We are reminded that we carry all our ancestors in our body. When we walk, our ancestors walk with us at the same time. We don’t just walk for ourselves, but we also walk for our ancestors. The same is with our spiritual ancestors - we are the continuation of these ancestors too. The teaching also reminds us how to work with our more difficult ancestors in order to discover healing and transformation. We can turn our anger into compassion.
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