Curiosity and cinema: the story of 'The Eagle Huntress' | Otto Bell | TEDxWakeForestU
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0:05 - 0:06Good afternoon, folks.
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0:08 - 0:10Thank you so much for having me today.
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0:10 - 0:12What a great pleasure. What an honour.
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0:12 - 0:13My name is Otto Bell.
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0:13 - 0:17I'm a British filmmaker
and creative director, -
0:17 - 0:21but I live in New York for about 11 years.
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0:21 - 0:22I'm an immigrant.
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0:22 - 0:23(Laughter)
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0:23 - 0:26And I made a film
about a Muslim girl, so ... -
0:26 - 0:29hopefully I'll be able to stay, who knows.
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0:29 - 0:31(Laughter)
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0:31 - 0:34It's really a great pleasure
to be here today. -
0:34 - 0:37I'm going to talk to you
about the intersection -
0:37 - 0:39between curiosity and cinema,
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0:39 - 0:41specifically how ...
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0:43 - 0:46the biggest act of following my curiosity
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0:46 - 0:50led me to make my first feature film,
'The Eagle Huntress'. -
0:50 - 0:53But for those of you
who haven't seen it, I thought - -
0:53 - 0:56well, if there are any of you
who haven't seen it - -
0:56 - 0:57(Laughter)
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0:57 - 1:00I thought it might be useful
just to start with a little primer. -
1:00 - 1:02Here's a trailer.
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1:02 - 1:05Oh, no. Garrett, could you
bring up the trailer, please, mate? -
1:07 - 1:08Here we go.
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1:08 - 1:11(Video starts)
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1:35 - 1:38(Kazakh) Man:
When it's warm we live in 'gers'; -
1:39 - 1:42when cold in regular houses.
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1:47 - 1:52It's all we've ever known.
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2:14 - 2:17Nature is great here.
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2:20 - 2:23It is like our mother.
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3:51 - 3:54Voice on radio:
Good morning, dear radio listeners. -
3:54 - 3:58Near Ulgii it will be cloudy,
with no precipitation. -
3:58 - 4:03Only four weeks left
until the long-awaited eagles festival. -
4:04 - 4:09Eagle hunters are busy
preparing their eagles for the events. -
4:10 - 4:12Girl: Okay.
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4:13 - 4:14(Applause)
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4:14 - 4:17Otto Bell: Thank you very much. Thank you.
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4:21 - 4:27This film premiered at Sundance,
at the film festival in 2016, -
4:29 - 4:33and it was released in cinemas
on November 2, 2016, -
4:33 - 4:35here in the US.
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4:36 - 4:41It's had an incredible life
that's really genuinely surprised me. -
4:44 - 4:47It was executive produced
by this curious character, -
4:47 - 4:48Morgan Spurlock.
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4:49 - 4:52It was narrated by Daisy Ridley
from Star Wars. -
4:52 - 4:58Sia, the enigmatic Australian singer,
wrote an original song for us, -
4:58 - 5:01a beautiful song called
'Angel By The Wings'. -
5:02 - 5:05It was shortlisted for an Oscar,
it was nominated for a BAFTA. -
5:07 - 5:09By large, the critics really liked it -
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5:09 - 5:14we had, I think, 96 reviews
and 89 of them were really lovely - -
5:15 - 5:16and as the gentleman said,
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5:16 - 5:22we became the highest-grossing
documentary of the year. -
5:24 - 5:25(Applause)
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5:25 - 5:26Well, it's not every day.
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5:28 - 5:31The money really isn't everything;
it's more a factor. -
5:31 - 5:36What that meant was that we had
hundreds and thousands of children - -
5:36 - 5:38principally children - girls and boys,
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5:38 - 5:41turning out to hear
this remarkable true story -
5:42 - 5:45about a young girl who was determined
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5:46 - 5:49and who worked hard and achieved
what it was that she dreamed on. -
5:49 - 5:53These are actually
from my personal scrapbook. -
5:54 - 5:58You can see this little family
from the Mongolian steppes; -
5:58 - 6:00we got to go all over the world together,
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6:02 - 6:04and meet young kids
who had their own dreams -
6:04 - 6:10and who were looking for inspiration
from Girl Guides - -
6:10 - 6:12Girl Scouts, I should say -
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6:13 - 6:15all the way through, marvellous.
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6:15 - 6:18Some of the school screenings
that we did were just really ... -
6:20 - 6:22sort of life-affirming for me,
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6:22 - 6:26and I think the same
is true for the family. -
6:27 - 6:28But it didn't begin that way.
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6:29 - 6:33I made this film for just under
a hundred thousand dollars. -
6:33 - 6:35I used my entire life savings.
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6:36 - 6:39I got a high-interest loan
from the bank as well. -
6:41 - 6:44Use somebody else's money,
that's the first rule of filmmaking. -
6:44 - 6:46It doesn't matter how curious you are,
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6:46 - 6:48make sure you're using
somebody else's money. -
6:48 - 6:49(Laughter)
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6:49 - 6:52But I was curious,
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6:53 - 6:55and what sparked it for me
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6:55 - 6:58was this photo essay
that I saw on the BBC. -
6:58 - 7:01I was literally sitting
in my cube at work, -
7:01 - 7:04and I stumbled across this story,
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7:04 - 7:09and I was incredibly struck by it;
and I was curious about it. -
7:09 - 7:11So I contacted the photographer,
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7:11 - 7:15this big, scary bloke from Israel,
called Asher Svidensky. -
7:16 - 7:22He had been photographing in the army,
and he'd finished his national service. -
7:22 - 7:25He'd gone walkabout
and he's a curious chap as well. -
7:25 - 7:29He started photographing
the next generation of eagle hunters. -
7:29 - 7:32There's only thought to be
about 250 of them left in the world, -
7:32 - 7:35and their way of life is threatened
for a number of reasons, -
7:35 - 7:37most pointedly climate change.
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7:39 - 7:43It was him who found Aisholpan
training with her father's eagle, -
7:46 - 7:49and he just took this remarkable
series of photographs, -
7:49 - 7:51the ones that I would
eventually see on the BBC. -
7:53 - 7:56Here she is; you can see
this almost preternatural connection -
7:56 - 7:58she has with - this is her father's bird
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7:58 - 8:00that she's training with here.
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8:00 - 8:02He followed her all the way to school.
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8:03 - 8:07But it was this photograph
that really grabbed me by the lapels -
8:09 - 8:12and sparked my curiosity
such that I would go on -
8:12 - 8:13and make my first feature film.
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8:16 - 8:20For me this photograph
not only is beautiful - -
8:20 - 8:23I think it's almost like a painting,
in a lot of ways - -
8:23 - 8:26but if you start
to dissect it objectively, -
8:26 - 8:29I think you'll see that it has
a lot of the key ingredients -
8:29 - 8:31that really make for a great film.
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8:31 - 8:34In the background there,
you have the Altai mountains, -
8:34 - 8:37those blues and oranges and purples.
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8:37 - 8:39A fantastic setting.
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8:39 - 8:42It's the most remote part of the least
populated country in the world. -
8:42 - 8:45So, it's not the end of the world,
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8:45 - 8:47but you can see the end
of the world from there. -
8:47 - 8:48(Laughter)
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8:48 - 8:50And then here you have
these golden eagles. -
8:50 - 8:53This is the largest species
of golden eagle in the world, -
8:53 - 8:55have like a seven or eight foot wingspan.
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8:55 - 8:58I mean, they're like dinosaurs.
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8:59 - 9:04And then, of course, in the foreground,
you have this remarkable young woman, -
9:04 - 9:09who is both beautiful, I think,
and angelic, but also very strong. -
9:11 - 9:14For me, that photograph
held a lot of the ingredients -
9:14 - 9:16that go towards making a great film.
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9:16 - 9:20So I called up Asher; I found him
on Facebook, stalked him, -
9:20 - 9:21(Laughter)
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9:21 - 9:24had a Skype with him
and we got on the plane -
9:24 - 9:26and we went to Mongolia.
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9:26 - 9:27These are the little cigar tubes
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9:27 - 9:30that fly you up
to her region twice a week. -
9:31 - 9:33I once took so much film equipment
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9:33 - 9:36that the plane
couldn't physically take off -
9:36 - 9:41from Ulaanbaatar, the capital,
to her region in the Altai Mountains. -
9:42 - 9:47I was nervous. I thought,
'Has my curiosity led me to a dead end?' -
9:49 - 9:51I was worried about finding the family
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9:51 - 9:53and pitching them on the idea
of making a film. -
9:53 - 9:55But luckily, they were used to people
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9:55 - 9:58being curious about the way
they lived their lives, -
9:58 - 10:01about taking an interest
in how they do things. -
10:03 - 10:08I remember sitting in their yurt -
they call it a 'ger' - -
10:08 - 10:10having tea the first day I met them,
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10:10 - 10:13and I said, 'Would you maybe
be interested in making a film?' -
10:13 - 10:15That's where Aisholpan's father
stood up and said, -
10:15 - 10:19'We're going to steal an eagle
off the side of a mountain this afternoon, -
10:19 - 10:20for Aisholpan.
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10:20 - 10:22Would you like to film that?'
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10:22 - 10:24I said, 'Absolutely, I would.'
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10:24 - 10:27That was our first afternoon of filming.
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10:28 - 10:31It became the first act
of the documentary. -
10:33 - 10:36Some of the critics have said
all this is too good to be true, -
10:36 - 10:41but I'm going to tell you a little bit
about how we did this sequence. -
10:41 - 10:46This was performed in one single take
on the first afternoon of filming. -
10:47 - 10:4812 minutes.
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10:48 - 10:51We had the mother eagle circling above,
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10:51 - 10:54threatening to savage
Aisholpan in the nest, -
10:54 - 10:57so we weren't going to do it
for a second time. -
10:57 - 11:01I had a cameraman
here on the ground filming this plate. -
11:01 - 11:06He was actually scared of heights,
so he wouldn't go up the cliff. -
11:06 - 11:09I said, 'Alright, you stay at the bottom
and get a nice big wide shot.' -
11:09 - 11:14Then Asher and I actually hid
behind this crop here -
11:14 - 11:16to get a lateral shot of Aisholpan.
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11:16 - 11:19Her father, I don't know
if you can make it out there, -
11:19 - 11:22he is literally just
winching her down on a rope. -
11:22 - 11:26A rope is a big word for it;
it's more piece of string. -
11:26 - 11:28(Laughter)
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11:28 - 11:32We also put a GoPro
underneath her cardigan, -
11:33 - 11:37so that it would, sort of,
take you inside the nest. -
11:37 - 11:40We did lots of inventive things like that.
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11:40 - 11:43It was fairly ragtag.
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11:43 - 11:46This was our production.
This was our fancy wagon. -
11:46 - 11:47(Laughter)
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11:49 - 11:52There was no electricity,
no running water. -
11:52 - 11:56We sort of lived with the family
like ducks in a row at night, -
11:56 - 12:01and ran all of our batteries
off a petrol generator. -
12:01 - 12:03We did all the sound ourselves
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12:03 - 12:06on one of these little
handheld zoom recorders. -
12:08 - 12:11My cameraman Chris on the first visit.
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12:11 - 12:13We then went back multiple times,
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12:13 - 12:17doubling down on that curiosity
each and every time, -
12:17 - 12:21as things happened in Aisholpan's life
and the story kind of unfolded for us. -
12:22 - 12:25This is the annual Eagle Festival.
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12:25 - 12:27My camera assistant Ben
on top of the mountain -
12:27 - 12:28where they released the birds.
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12:30 - 12:34We wanted to do justice
to this incredible landscape, -
12:34 - 12:36but like I said,
we didn't have much money. -
12:36 - 12:38We had a crew of about three people.
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12:38 - 12:41Sweaty English blokes.
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12:41 - 12:42(Laughter)
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12:42 - 12:43But we did want
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12:43 - 12:48to give it a really big cinematic,
beautiful, polished look and feel, -
12:48 - 12:50so we threw the kitchen sink at it.
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12:50 - 12:53I don't think this film would have been
possible to make five years ago. -
12:53 - 12:55You know, we did it with three people.
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12:55 - 12:58We probably needed 30 people
back in the day. -
12:58 - 13:00But we leaned a lot on drones.
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13:00 - 13:05Here we had our sturdy,
Soviet-era Russian vans, -
13:05 - 13:09where we roped open the side door
and then we had a Steadicam inside, -
13:09 - 13:12and that allowed us
to get all of our tracking shots -
13:12 - 13:14as the family would gallop
through the snow. -
13:14 - 13:17I mean, talk about a shoestring budget.
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13:18 - 13:22My cameraman is amazing -
my main cameraman, Simon Niblett. -
13:22 - 13:24He built me this crane.
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13:24 - 13:28It's nine meters long,
he based it on a ship mast, -
13:28 - 13:30and it folds away into a snowboard bag.
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13:30 - 13:32It weighs 25 kilos.
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13:32 - 13:36That allows you to get these big swooping,
kind of cinematic shots -
13:36 - 13:38with just a couple of people.
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13:41 - 13:44I built a rig to get a GoPro
on the back of an eagle as well, -
13:44 - 13:48so we could get a proper bird's-eye view.
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13:48 - 13:50They loved that,
it didn't faze them at all. -
13:52 - 13:56But I just wanted to share with you
a couple of minutes, just a clip next, -
13:56 - 14:01which will show you a little bit of
what all of these techniques added up to -
14:02 - 14:05and where all of this curiosity led.
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14:05 - 14:08For those of you who are curious
how these nomadic folks live their lives, -
14:08 - 14:12this is a sort of my love letter
in the middle of the film -
14:12 - 14:16to how these people move
from season to season, -
14:16 - 14:19from grasslands to their winter homes.
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14:19 - 14:22Apologies in advance - we had a little bit
of a technical issue with the audio, -
14:22 - 14:26so you're not actually going to be able
to hear her father's voice -
14:26 - 14:27speaking over the top of it.
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14:27 - 14:29But you'll see the subtitles
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14:29 - 14:32and that'll explain the gist
of what he's actually saying. -
14:32 - 14:36Take a look at this clip
from the middle of The Eagle Huntress. -
14:40 - 14:43(Video starts)
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15:04 - 15:08[When it's warm we live in gers.]
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15:08 - 15:11[when cold in regular houses.]
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15:16 - 15:21[It's all we've ever known.]
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15:42 - 15:46[Nature is great here.]
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15:49 - 15:51[It is like our mother.]
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17:03 - 17:05OB: You get the idea.
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17:06 - 17:07Thank you.
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17:07 - 17:10(Applause)
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17:14 - 17:17To bring it back to the beginning,
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17:18 - 17:20Aisholpan was 13 when we filmed.
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17:21 - 17:24She's now 15, should be 16 on May 3.
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17:26 - 17:30For those of you wondering,
where are they now? -
17:30 - 17:33Aisholpan, off the back of the film,
got a free scholarship -
17:33 - 17:35to a really great school.
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17:35 - 17:37One of the top three schools in Mongolia,
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17:37 - 17:40actually, happens to be
in her neighbourhood, -
17:40 - 17:41and she's doing very well there.
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17:41 - 17:44She's learnt Turkish,
she's learning English. -
17:44 - 17:45Her English has really improved.
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17:45 - 17:48She can now write to me
and stuff, which is lovely. -
17:52 - 17:55When the film actually
took off at Sundance -
17:57 - 18:00and we started to get a sense
that it was going to be a big deal, -
18:00 - 18:03I made the family
profit participants in the film, -
18:04 - 18:07and we set up a fund
for Aisholpan's education - -
18:07 - 18:09she wants to be a doctor.
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18:10 - 18:14I'm pleased to say that that fund
is now at the point -
18:14 - 18:18where she'll be able to study medicine
wherever she wants to in the world, -
18:18 - 18:21which brings me to a pitch for you guys,
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18:21 - 18:27that maybe she could be a Demon Deacon,
I don't know, let's push your people. -
18:27 - 18:28(Laughter) (Applause)
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18:28 - 18:33But you could do a lot worse, trust me.
She's an incredible young woman. -
18:33 - 18:37Thank you all for listening
and enjoy the rest of the show. Thanks. -
18:37 - 18:39(Applause)
- Title:
- Curiosity and cinema: the story of 'The Eagle Huntress' | Otto Bell | TEDxWakeForestU
- Description:
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Have you ever wondered what it is like to produce a documentary film that highlights a culture and life unknown to most of the world? Otto Bell explains just how curious he was about the Kazakh culture and why he felt the need to document the Kazakh way of life.
This talk was given at a TEDx event using the TED conference format but independently organized by a local community. Learn more at http://ted.com/tedx
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