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( Audience cheering and applauding)
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Welcome Back
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For more on the gun debate,
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we bring you the first part of the three part
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series with John Oliver
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(John Oliver) Yesterday Americans watched in shock
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as even watered down gun legislation
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but that is exactly where it belongs according to gun lobbyists like
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Philip Van Cleave of the Virginia Citizens Defence League.
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The Second Amendment is sacrosanct.
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ou hold up this sign whenever I make a suggestion that you think is infringing upon your
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Second Amendment rights, ok?
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Ok.
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Assault weapons ban. Boom there it is.
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Increased background checks.
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(John Oliver) Really?
(Philip) Yes.
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(John Oliver) Just for background checks?
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We don't do background checks for the First Amendment.
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Ok so let's just try this one.
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(Philip) Ok. (John Oliver) Nice and easy.
(Philip) Sure
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A mandatory 1 hour waiting period if you buy a gun.
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(Philip) Why a mandatory... (John Oliver)
Are you [beep] kidding me?
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(Laughter in the background)
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Unless I can see a reason - No.
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I can't think of anything that I support
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because at the end of the day none of it works.
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(John Oliver) Exactly, gun control does not work.
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What if - hypothetically speaking - what if gun control could work? Which obviously it can't.
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So we know that it won't so that's not a problem but what if it could,
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due to that time that it did?
(Philip) Ok when was that?
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Australia. (Music) Yes Australia.
In 1996 a conservative Prime Minister
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John Howard, instituted sweeping gun control laws following a mass shooting that shocked
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the nation. So should we be learning from this effective example?
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(Scoffs) Of course not.
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I guess if we're going to go to Planet X
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and say it's not the United States - it's on some other planet, different people,
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different everything, I don't know - yeah.
(Laughter in background)
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But in the real world with human beings it's not going to work and gun control isn't going to work.
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Unfortunately, not only is Australia actually in the real world,
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even their animals can holster weapons.
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So who was right about gun control?
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There was only one way to find out,
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confront the man responsible.
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Mr Prime Minister, let's begin in the formal Australian way - Gidday (audience laughter).
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How do you do.
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Obviously gun control doesn't work,
it can't work, it will never work.
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So how was your scheme a failure?
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Well my scheme was not a failure.
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We had a massacre at a place called
Port Arthur 17 years ago
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and there have been none since.
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Zero gun massacres?
Hold on, did gun control actually work?
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It stopped one thing.
That could also be a statistical anomoly.
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Yeah, it was just their mass shootings disappeared.
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But there were so few of them, whoop-de-do!
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(John Oliver) Whoop-de-doo?
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(Philip) Yes.
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(John Oliver) Whoop-de-doo?
(Philip) Yes, mass shooting are rare anyhow.
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(John Oliver) Exactly. They probably barely had a massacre before 1996.
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There was about 13 in the previous 18 years.
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In the 18 years before Port Arthur there were 13 mass shootings.
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Yes
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Almost one a year.
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I was unaware they had that many.
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Mass being what? More than two people at a time?
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(John Oliver) More than four.
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More than four, ok.
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Whoop-de-doo.
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(John Oliver) But perhaps there were other non-whoop-de-doo side effects.
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The homocide rate involving the use of guns has
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declined significantly by factors of up to 50 and 60%
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and the incidence of youth suicides involving guns has declined dramatically.
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Whoop-de-f*(beep)-do.
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(Audience laughter) Help me out here Philip.
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Homocides with guns went down, suicide with guns also went down. Zero mass shootings.
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Well Australia still has murders, rapes
and robberies last I checked.
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Unless you can get rid of 100% of crime,
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it's not worth doing at all.
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Well put it this way, it's illegal to have crack cocaine anywhere in the United States.
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Do you think if somebody really wants it,
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they could get their hands on crack cocaine in America?
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So unless we can completely get rid of drugs, there's no point in having drug laws at all?
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(Audience laughter)
(Philip sighs) Let me think about that for a minute. Umm.
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Well effectively it doesn't work.
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(John Oliver) You can't argue with Phillip,
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even his logic is bullet proof.
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Well let me put it to you this way,
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there are more drownings in backyards where they have pools,
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if the don't have a pool there are no drownings in backyards.
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So the U.S. has a very high number of guns therefore there's going to be
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more chances for somebody to be killed with a gun.
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(John Oliver) Right. (Philip) Right.
(John Oliver) Right. (Audience laughter)
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Thats MY point.
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(Music) Philip might think that living in a society with dramatically reduced gun violence
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is a whoop-de-doo and people in Australia couldn't agree with him more
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Whoop-de-doo. Whoop-de-doo mate. Whoop-de-do!
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Whoop-de-do whatever that means.
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WHOOP-DE-F*(beep)-D0!!
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(Audience cheering) John.
We'll be right back.