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( Audience cheering and applauding)

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Welcome Back

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For more on the gun debate,

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we bring you the first part of the three part

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series with John Oliver

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(John Oliver) Yesterday Americans watched in shock

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as even watered down gun legislation

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but that is exactly where it belongs according to gun lobbyists like

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Philip Van Cleave of the Virginia Citizens Defence League.

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The Second Amendment is sacrosanct.

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ou hold up this sign whenever I make a suggestion that you think is infringing upon your

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Second Amendment rights, ok?

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Ok.

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Assault weapons ban. Boom there it is.

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Increased background checks.

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(John Oliver) Really? 
(Philip) Yes.

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(John Oliver) Just for background checks?

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We don't do background checks for the First Amendment.

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Ok so let's just try this one.

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(Philip) Ok. (John Oliver) Nice and easy. 
(Philip) Sure

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A mandatory 1 hour waiting period if you buy a gun.

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(Philip) Why a mandatory... (John Oliver) 
Are you [beep] kidding me?

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(Laughter in the background)

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Unless I can see a reason - No.

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I can't think of anything that I support

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because at the end of the day none of it works.

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(John Oliver) Exactly, gun control does not work.

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What if - hypothetically speaking - what if gun control could work? Which obviously it can't.

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So we know that it won't so that's not a problem but what if it could,

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due to that time that it did? 
(Philip) Ok when was that?

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Australia. (Music) Yes Australia. 
In 1996 a conservative Prime Minister

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John Howard, instituted sweeping gun control laws following a mass shooting that shocked

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the nation. So should we be learning from this effective example?

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(Scoffs) Of course not.

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I guess if we're going to go to Planet X

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and say it's not the United States - it's on some other planet, different people,

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different everything, I don't know - yeah. 
(Laughter in background)

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But in the real world with human beings it's not going to work and gun control isn't going to work.

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Unfortunately, not only is Australia actually in the real world,

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even their animals can holster weapons.

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So who was right about gun control?

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There was only one way to find out,

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confront the man responsible.

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Mr Prime Minister, let's begin in the formal Australian way - Gidday (audience laughter).

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How do you do.

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Obviously gun control doesn't work,
it can't work, it will never work.

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So how was your scheme a failure?

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Well my scheme was not a failure.

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We had a massacre at a place called 
Port Arthur 17 years ago

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and there have been none since.

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Zero gun massacres? 
Hold on, did gun control actually work?

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It stopped one thing. 
That could also be a statistical anomoly.

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Yeah, it was just their mass shootings disappeared.

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But there were so few of them, whoop-de-do!

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(John Oliver) Whoop-de-doo?

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(Philip) Yes.

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(John Oliver) Whoop-de-doo?
(Philip) Yes, mass shooting are rare anyhow.

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(John Oliver) Exactly. They probably barely had a massacre before 1996.

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There was about 13 in the previous 18 years.

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In the 18 years before Port Arthur there were 13 mass shootings.

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Yes

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Almost one a year.

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I was unaware they had that many.

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Mass being what? More than two people at a time?

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(John Oliver) More than four.

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More than four, ok.

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Whoop-de-doo.

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(John Oliver) But perhaps there were other non-whoop-de-doo side effects.

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The homocide rate involving the use of guns has

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declined significantly by factors of up to 50 and 60%


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and the incidence of youth suicides involving guns has declined dramatically.

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Whoop-de-f*(beep)-do.

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(Audience laughter) Help me out here Philip.

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Homocides with guns went down, suicide with guns also went down. Zero mass shootings.

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Well Australia still has murders, rapes 
and robberies last I checked.

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Unless you can get rid of 100% of crime,

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it's not worth doing at all.

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Well put it this way, it's illegal to have crack cocaine anywhere in the United States.

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Do you think if somebody really wants it,

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they could get their hands on crack cocaine in America?

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So unless we can completely get rid of drugs, there's no point in having drug laws at all?

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(Audience laughter) 
(Philip sighs) Let me think about that for a minute. Umm.

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Well effectively it doesn't work.

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(John Oliver) You can't argue with Phillip,

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even his logic is bullet proof.

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Well let me put it to you this way,

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there are more drownings in backyards where they have pools,


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if the don't have a pool there are no drownings in backyards.

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So the U.S. has a very high number of guns therefore there's going to be

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more chances for somebody to be killed with a gun.

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(John Oliver) Right. (Philip) Right. 
(John Oliver) Right. (Audience laughter)

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Thats MY point.

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(Music) Philip might think that living in a society with dramatically reduced gun violence

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is a whoop-de-doo and people in Australia couldn't agree with him more

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Whoop-de-doo. Whoop-de-doo mate. Whoop-de-do!

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Whoop-de-do whatever that means.

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WHOOP-DE-F*(beep)-D0!!

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(Audience cheering) John. 
We'll be right back.