Watergate: The Hidden History

it is a major anniversary with regard to
Richard Nixon and Watergate as several

of them happening throughout this week
the CIA spy a non-congress thing that

has dianne feinstein so upset turns out
that was not the first that happened

back during the next nearer
as well and a llamar Waldren the other

several books including the updated
trade paperback edition

above watergate the hidden history nixon
the mafia and the CIA

is on the line with us are welcome back
great to be with you tom

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okay so a let's

let's begin with the this contemporary
the CIA is spying on congress who is

spying on the congressional committee
that was

lou you know looking to see whether the
CIA was involved in

illegal torture um how and why is the
CIA spy non-members a congress not

unique to this era well for me it was
just so shocking when we heard about

that at the CIA was going and I believe
looking at the computers that the

congressional
staff investigators were using an he

lets
battery so he intrusive paying for the

CIA to be doing
we should remember the CIA is not really

supposed to be operating
in the United States your national

security
threats in the United States was

supposed to be the are
in the into the FBI other national

security type organizations Homeland
Security

not the CIA which must be dealing with
foreign threats

so that it was just so shocking because
hit

it brought back comedian probably are
I even to you some some memories from

what it happened back in the late
nineteen seventies

several congressional committees
starting during watergate

especially in the late nineteen
seventies in 1978

1979 when there was a congressional
committee

the last big investigation of the decade
called the house select committee on

assassinations
an inning to you remember I seventy nine

is where been during the carter
administration

right is start 78 within 2 79 under the
carter administration

are the CIA director at that time was
stansfield turner

who took over from girl george bush who
did under gerald ford

but it's important to note before we go
into this

I i don't believe for a moment jimmy
carter

or stansfield turner his CA director he
authorized

the operations I'm about to tell you
about because they're just too

incredible operations
hi I firmly believe that your presents

coming go
CA directors are largely a political

office they coming go
which you have these high-level career

CIA guys who have been in for twenty or
twenty-five years

they have things to hide there there
there

you note regardless accuse president for
you see a director

so I'm I would be very certain if they
mess misrepresented things to their

superiors including stansfield turner in
a bit gotta hi Jimmy Carter

and you won't even talk about the
freemen you why they did that

so here's what happened he had these
congressional investigators including

our old
good friend gate in pharmacy are were

out looking into all sorts of things
related to JFK's assassination

and the CIA because the course CIA
assets in agent had surfaced as a

suspect
so are one night a congressional staffer

who had authorization
was looking at the autopsy photographs

of JFK's murder
and and initially are you love

close to save shipping back in the safe
are

you will win away when she came back so
she put these photos in the safe in a in

a nice book
are here to protect them close safe they

didn't like it because she was coming
back soon

we seek she came back she noticed
the book with their the autopsy

photographs was there
but one in particular with on top

of the notebook it wasn't you and the
notebook where she had put it

so she immediately called an alert talk
to the

director up the house select committee
on assassinations of the noted attorney

the robert blakey within a mafia
prosecutor for opportunity

and blakey call the FBI at see
here who who had guardian to the the

House Select Committee
safe and and look at this JFK material

without authorization while
staffer was out of the room you know

somebody the clearly looking in with
surprised

when she came back so quickly Soviet
times but the notebook back in but not

time to put that photograph in the
notebook

well italian fingerprints on their
photograph

and you'll never guess who those
fingerprints belong to

they belong to the CIA's security
representative

who is charged with helping this
congressional committee

yet important information from the CIA
which is essentially the exact same

thing that happened dianne feinstein the
the CIA

folks who were tasked with Gandhi of to
congress all the information needed

where the ones were spying on congress
exactly right any and believe it or not

it gets works in and we can see by the
way

when the CIA get away with things back
in 1978 and 1979

of course they're gonna keep doing them
ten twenty thirty years later

so they're just gonna keep doing what
works so

so the FBI found out it was it was this
guy are regis blog what was his name

he denied it of course a polygraph him
three times a key fail three polygraph

yes according to get funded and aren't
and then he finally admitted he had the

heat on in there he never explained why
accepted he was I believe curious

you know which is you don't break
security rules and file congress get

you're curious you're following orders
the PA fired him but not his supervisor

they didn't go up the chain of command
so the the the committee never really

felt that what the incident was about
the CIA apologized and said look

will be better will assign you a new guy
kak

is our representative he so good we're
gonna call him out of retirement

and if your help you get what you need
from the CIA because

is congressional investigator Fonzie
hand and the director

regular like you later said you know the
CIA had really

been difficult about giving them
important material

so but but they had a new representative
now wasn't going to rifle

say well it it's ridiculous
so the CIA had having the help select

committee had been looking for one
particular CIA officer

who had dealt with a cuban exile group
had a lot of contact with oswald

we r BR walled are the the chief suspect
in the summer

1963 in the CIA with say what we we just
can't find a CIA officer you wanna talk

to you we don't know where years
but here here's this new guy your new

liaison
he's gonna help you find that CIA

officer he's gonna help you get all the
files you been warning that we haven't

quite been able to fight
well I almost don't have to tell you

what happened with the CIA officer the
committee was looking for

CIA actually made their new liaison
with the congressional committee the CIA

officer
the committee wanted to interview but

they didn't tell the committee that
so all the time blakey engage in Farsi

all the congressional staffers in the
members of congress

are saying to the CIA representative
help us find this guy who was with the

you know who directed the cuban exile
organization with all the songs will

contact help us find the sky
and they're telling that to the guy

himself who was the guy who directed
that cuban exile organization but they

didn't know that
and so they were just completely

deceived and that lasted
until the into the committee which is

why there's one reason
you're still so much controversy about

you know the JFK assassination the day
because the CAA didn't give

are about a million records they should
have to the committee

and the appointed this guy who should
have been put under oath in question

because the committee wanted to
interrogate him they made him

the liaison all without telling the
committee what Israel background was so

we can see how when the CIA get away
with that

all those years ago when they deceive
not just congress but they aren't

certain they deceived president carter
is he a director stansfield turner was

not the number
3 guy in the CIA $archivename Kate

Shaklee
was the guy who probably was behind all

this
good partner had nothing to hide

transporter had nothing to hide
of catchy actually within the head up

Miami CIA station
back in the early fifties the AAA headed

back to top
connie was running outta another

right now working with he was acting
working on the

hot Rick mormon more with mr. Walter
right after this sticker

this is the Thom Hartmann program
from our new book watergate the hidden

history nixon the mafia and the CIA
welcome back

lamar water install with us you still
hear lamar right start now I'm

so it you're gonna say architects it's
so ironic

now with what we know now and that's
really describe in watergate the hidden

history for the first time
is exactly what CIA with so desperate to

hide from congress that they would stage
a burglary

you know they were there was it was
burglarized safe have a congressional

committee
and oddly enough it was to hide the true

information
about another burglary which everyone's

familiar with
the watergate burglary and in and how

that watergate burglary
in 1972 you know is connected to that

burglary
as congress in in in the late seventies

and the
ongoing deceptions comforts remember the

CIA has never come clean
about putting that that making their new

liaison after the burglary
suspect a very suspect house committee

wanted
they never admitted that in fact they

deceived another
committee created by congress the

assassination records review board in
the nineties about that it was only a

a washington post reporter by the name
of Jefferson morley to discover that

deception
and his as hell of it going I believe

for maybe
no eight or ten years now trying to get

the CIA to at least come clean about
that guy and and the CIA won't even do

that
and so the CIA has basically been hiding

information
since the warren commission's certainly

but they hit it
they had important information about

nixon in the Mafia and the CIA
from the senate watergate committee the

committee a prank church in the mid
1970s the church committee they had the

mafia witnesses who got murdered right
out from under the committee

you're from jimmy hoffa sam giancana to
Johnny Roselli

and in the house select committee in the
CAA deceived

the assassination records review board
created by Congress in the nineties

in the CA still refuses to release
these file so is probably now time to

tell people so what what was this big
secret you know that they were all

keeping about nixon in the Mafia
and that was very simply

in 1960 when richard nixon the vice
president for eight years

was running against are Senator John F
Kennedy

are a nixon didn't have the money
sister that the Jonah Keri had

the case file was when the rich in
america: I he didn't have any waiver

support relief from the major unions
arms but he did have the Mafia so

richard nixon in the summer of nineteen
sixty few months before the election

ordered the CIA to hire the Mafia
specifically these mobsters like camper

Miami godfather
son to traffic RT in China Roselli the

Chicago marty is man in Las Vegas in
hollywood

nixon had the CIA hire those mobsters
to assassinate fidel castro before the

election
but but there's more at the same time

nixon also got in this is verified by
the justice department

time magazine lot a credible sources
that day a new PBS special that's right

knee
right now in fact are nixon from the

same of you guys
he got a million dollar bribe to stall

some charges
against jimmy hoffa as the Sun Valley

land deal exactly
and so because the kennedys that help to

bring attention to jimmy hoffa's ties
with the Mafia

so so it was a package deal for nixon
you get the CIA to hire these mobsters

kill Fidel before the election for the
people will go with you endurance vice

president
and you get a million dollars for your

campaign from those say mobbed
that me hang on just a second model will

continue this in just a moment to talk
with Mr Walgren

his new book watergate the hidden
history nixon

a mafia and the CIA
the ball back tomorrow on has a new book

out dirt out now in paperback I believe
watergate the hidden history nixon the

mafia and the CIA
to have the right lamar that's correct

and a
just just to summarize what you just

said you were you
we started out talking about this the

CIA spy non-congress
and and the you know breaking into the

safe and then putting a guy the Congress
was looking for the the gate barges

committee that the slight sense
at the house like manifestations they

were kinda and which concluded by the
way that

JFK was killed as a result of a
conspiracy and not just any conspiracy

but they they said that that santo
traffic party

and also carlos marcello who was also
keen on those see a mafia plots can that

nixon bribe
that they had the quote motive means an

opportunity to have assassinated JFK
they could not conclusively Penate on

prophet ITN marcella they did conclude
it was a conspiracy

because the CIA as well the FBI but
especially

CA withheld so much information from
the house alright so in 78 when they

have withheld that'd when when they
broke into the

the files the it's like Betty they're
doing so because they were trying to

hide something that they did in seventy
two

which was their involvement with
watergate and they were

and that was because they were trying to
hide something that they did in nineteen

sixty
which was richard nixon was mobbed up

but he brought
he ordered the CIA to hire the mob and

then
you know the the CIA gave up on trying

to the mob mob then give a million
dollar bribe debt

to nixon to get to get jimmy hoffa how
to jail basically

well I can't keep him from going to jail
him from going to jail yeah

and obey with the Sun Valley land deal
and so we're kinda back at the beginning

I mean this is a right this is ok but
let's let's let's jump ahead

71 and 72 because thats that was in the
past to and I think you might agree tom

a lot of nixon's supporters see you
remember how conservative law-and-order

he was
that we should you know I should did I

just say for for our younger listeners
and viewers

in 1960 richard nixon was not only
running against jack kennedy for the

presidency the United States
he was the vice president had been for

eight years
under eisenhower he so it's in the only

real area foreign policy nixon was
involved

was allowed to really pee involved with
with cuba because eisenhower did not

wanna touch cuba
in nixon had long ties to cuba both

through the Mafia
into private business deals with his

best friend and business partner
peery bozo so I kinda left with happy

to leave cuba the nixon's good friend
the dictator batista had been overthrown

by fidel castro
would not yet declared himself communist

so people with a lot of turmoil them off
he wasn't happy about having their

casinos
first close then reopened they were

reopened
are the the Cuban government put out

soldier of fortune by the name of rates
you're really in charge is the liaison

between fidel's government hand the
mobsters who were still

running the casinos even though they did
not hold on so

so the mobster seem the ideal choice by
the CIA

22 basically try to kill fidel and to
get the blame for it

in but but of course the Mafia was not
successfully killing fidel castro

because they didn't want to take the
blame

some of you knew if they took the blame
for killing fidel no way we get to keep

running their casinos anyway
so fidel was not killed half are the

charges were stalled but then they were
reinstated after nixon of the election

what flashy head in 1971 nixon is
president because he

kinda committed treason Winnie he
stonewalled the

he threw a monkey wrench into the peace
negotiations that lyndon johnson had to

end the war in Vietnam and 68 soap nixon
became president and I'll

a Jack Anderson who is humor when he was
a very well-known columnist by Erica

you stay here he he wrote up a a weekly
column for parade magazine the

everybody read and he was you will you
know he was

America's most famous investigative
reporter he was Woodward and Bernstein

before Woodward and Bernstein came along
exactly right in January if 71

are watergate the last for the burger
which unit 72 so

so more than a year before watergate
Jack Anderson wrote a couple columns

that almost exposed the CIA mafia nixon
plots

from the early sixties and that really
alarmed richard nixon and we know that

now cuz we have files including summer
I'm have your children the book for the

first time where senate watergate
committee later found out

that the election was really worry when
they jack anderson article appeared cell

what did nixon do he had his
he had this recently retired in output

retired in quotes with the case concerns
former high CIA official by name a-z

Howard hot
any Howard heart he just recently been

the chief of covert operations for all
of Western Europe

I don't have to tell you Tom in the cold
war being cheaper

covert operations for all the Western
Europe I mean that was

that was as the top of the pile yeah be
your your you're you're not james bond

James Bond
supervise you know your right at the top

got that had been ERA hunched couple
years earlier

he was a protege of PBN CIA director
Richard Helms

and so are he Howard heart goes to work
for the white house

and he gets his old buddies from the sea
a mafia plot days including

bernard barker a long time mobster from
the late forties

who in the FBI knew that are in the CAA
knew that so that's why

in september of nineteen sixty when the
see a mafia plots were

coming together a back to the end you
howard hunt had a bad experience

so the CIA had assigned hot this new
assistant

bernard barker who was a longtime are
mob operative for Santa cross-party

so are hot got bar to read a bunch of
other people from

about whether CIA agents in assets who
had worked on

various parts say mafia plot they became
what's known as the white house

plumber's
and and they were formed before the

daniel ellsberg are
revelations about the pentagon papers

where their first jobs was to burglarize
the annual ellsberg's psychiatrist's

office why would they do that
well because daniel ellsberg here and

vietnam back when ellsberg still working
for the government

have been very close to the daughter
have one of the art up the last see a

supervisor
for see a marquee nixon plots because

those plotted continued
unknown to John Robert Kennedy into 1963

in under the kennedys even though they
never authorized those parts

richard helms number three and the CA
back in in 63

he continued those plots without telling
his own CIA director

so they were worried that the daughter
that CIA official might have to hold

annual held
are the the EPA was also worried that

member Salvador Allende be headed Chile
the program

socialist what he was very close to
Fidel Castro

the CIA worried debt debt cash to buy
have told him

the National had compiled the long
report

many hurting our you will continue after
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what about with you and Mr Walgren
on the line with us he's the he's got a

new book out
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little earlier in the year
title watergate the hidden history nixon

the mafia and the CIA lamar welcome back
great to be with you can also if you

could to recap the first half hour of
our conversation in about five sentences

and then let's move forward from there
please sure the most important thing was

that the
current are CA spying on congress

scandal wasn't the first there was a big
one

two big ones in late ninety in the late
nineteen seventies

with the say burglarized to
congressional safe which caught

be replaced their publicly fire liaison
with an actual suspect to the committee

wanted to interrogate but they didn't
tell the committee this week

suspect they were looking for but what
the CIA was worried about

from that committee and and several
others in nineteen seventies

are concerned richard nixon
and in his use of the Mafia are

a if you have the CIA har the Mafia
to try to kill fidel castro before the

1960 election was back when nixon was
vice president

when nixon vice president was when he
gets a bitter China Katie and at the

same time nixon
is the nixon ties with the market go

back to started his political career
nixon with so tight in the Mafia he also

got a million dollar bra I
22 stall charges on jimmy hoffa from the

same
mob bosses like like Florida center

traffic RT
and in louisiana's carlos marcello say

mob bosses that he was using
to try to kill fidel castro from these

the guys who alternately also killed
jack kennedy

well those is traffic ITN Marcelo that
same committee

that the CIA burglarized are safe in the
late seventies

they concluded more so in traffic RT had
the motive means an opportunity to have

killed JFK
they concluded jackie was killed by

conspiracy but they couldn't
directly finger a hundred percent more

so in traffic RT
because the CIA had withheld so much

information from them
right for so now we're in 1971 in Jack

Anderson the leading newspaper reporter
for time

his is put out a couple of articles that
almost exposed

see a mafia nixon plots from 1960
in response nixon gets veterans have

those plots
like hi CA official are

he Howard hart who's recently quote
retiring quote from CA

hot old mafia assistant bernard barker
along country a Asian bodywork for the

Mafia
specifically traffic RT far longer and

other guys who had worked on various
parts to the same RT a plot

they become the white house plumber's
the first burglarized

the office obtain your health bar the
Pentagon Papers guys

psychiatrists because ellsberg have been
closed to the daughter

the last CIA supervisor for the CIA
mafia nixon plots that were continued

into JFK's administration into 1963
into the fall 63 without telling

John and Robert Kennedy and so but they
didn't find anything else Burke

psychiatrist after so nixon
top of it in OK that nothing else is

gonna come out
Henderson wrote no more articles so by

December up 1971
we're we're still seven months before

the watergate break-in up last one
nixon's feeling pretty confident he he

he wants money for his reelection next
year

he would like to cut a deal with the
teamsters to get their support

because uniqueness basically anti-union
president some OC and are gonna

support him the teamsters in those days
could be bought

can so nixon in December 71
it's it's just remarkable like any

career criminal he keeps doing what he
gets away with

and he gets a brand new wanna
billion dollar bribe from planter

traffic RT carlos marcello and their
associates

this time to release jimmy hoffa from
prison but with special conditions

keep are far from resuming control the
teamsters

scope of was a tough guy and the current
teamster chief in 1951 frankfort Simmons

which frankly up a pussy cat in a
pushover

and the Mafia would rather have
Fitzsimmons running things

in the volatile hot-headed tough jimmy
hoffa

so you got a new mafia bribe their are
to richard nixon from the same guys from

62 same company Brycen
same guys it supposedly try to talk

castro forum
splashy had till May 1972

a month before the last 48 break-in are
or the CIA gets word that castro has

compiled
list a detailed report not just a list a

detailed detailed report into sections
about although the CAA's a chance to

kill him
nixon knows those attempts started on

richard nixon's orders
he wants to know what's in that report

because he doesn't want that coming in
up during the seventy two elections

wherein maeve 72 now
the democratic nominee has not even been

chosen and it still could
could be anyone up several people not

just george mcgovern who eventually got
it

ted kennedy was still in the running are
several other people were still in the

running
so are Nick said next it when any those

guys
to be able to put this out n he knew

they just five months earlier
he take a new bra I from the say

mobsters he used on this fidel operation
so are Fidelis close Salvador Allende

the socialist are
ahead of Chile the Chilean embassy

in washington is burglarized by the
Watergate burglars

and there's even a watergate taped it
almost completely ignored by the media

the New York Times are there's an
article about it in the late 90's

through the watergate tapes withheld
from the watergate committee that

everybody for years
in which nixon admits he does that the

Watergate burglars
had burglarized the Chilean embassy it

and not just very important because
nixon

knew that if he clearly they were doing
anything he didn't want them to do that

we doing it for him
they were doing it for the the end CIA

director we continue those
see a mafia plots without authorization

into the
JFK administration they don't find the

report their
so then they're worried the democratic

national committee has
because nixon had used any Howard hot

functionary
to be 10 their liaisons with the mafia

and the CIA
head Hughes are was employed at that

time the head of the democratic national
committee larry o'brien

so if you do about the plot so there was
worry what if you said some help hold

are clearly O'Brien and you know Brock
anyhow ready

area I mean we're talking no the the the
reclusive billionaire Howard Hughes

yeah the reclusive billionaire Howard
Hughes which part

are the original CIA mafia nixon plots
in 1960

to the big longtime nixon supporter are
any was also in tight with the mob thus

his activities in Vegas
right oh yeah another words the that the

key mobster in all this Johnny Roselli
the Chicago market

man in las vegas The Hollywood he was
closed to traffic RT

Johnny Roselli from the same occupied
he's the guy that brokered although the

deal 4
are Howard Hughes the billionaire to buy

these casinos from the Mafia
and that they believe the Mafia in

charge so the Mafia keep skimming money
it was rightfully have received so they

got to sell because the their casinos to
use thanks to John Rose LA

well they got to keep follow mark got to
keep on skimming money out the children

he is
so so they were worried election was

worried they're dead
that Larry O'Brien who was a consultant

for e4 our used
had somehow found out about the spot so

that's why the Watergate burglars
made not one not two not three for a

chance
to burglarize the offices at the

Democratic National Committee
to see if they had a copy I love that

reported it was on the fourth and final
burglary attempt

that that they were caught and that that
everything hit the fan so to speak right

so
so what the Watergate burglars were

looking for
in a nutshell was the

E was evidence have previous crimes
committed by richard nixon

that he believed that the the democrats
the democrats might have gotten the

got their hands on exactly they might
have gotten it through high and the

specific crimes that he was that the
specific things that the Watergate

burglars are looking for
in 72 were what

were worth with this report and I put a
report in the book by the way it came

out a couple years later
but with no word by the time I casters

report yeah we are catchers report is
actually

in the book people can see what nixon
sacrifices present report

it may get if they came out finally a
couple years later george mcgovern got a

copy from fidel released its
but it came out today the day that the

mafia murdered
jimmy hoffa the same up here as well

and so so CEO you can tell what what the
hell I was that day in for the next two

weeks
that we are doing the opposite

disappearance course murder which front
page news

but yes we have easy to get a copy
report in a rapid report in the book

that okay here's here's the issue is
nunu remember how nixon supporters were

nixon supporters in 1972
they would have been upset that he had

hired the Mafia to try to kill fidel
castro back in nineteen sixty

but a lot of nixon supporters all of
them didn't like castro

a lot of them would have still voted for
nixon right but nixon

made his bowls as the law and order
president we didn't know about all this

nearly felonies
Canadian selling out america to the big

corporations
so they were even nixon's most ardent

supporters
would not have like no the on two

occasions
in 1960 1971 nixon had gotten a million

dollar bra
I from those say mobsters right so

so taking a bribe is far less a
appealing than

then you know hiring the mob to kill mo
what's perceived as a bad guy

bad political Ackley exactly so so nixon
knew that if that report came out if it

had these mobsters in it
any new the justice department knew

about the nineteen sixty
drive because the to inform a dealer

that in 1962
robert kennedy had known about it but

hadn't made a public are
in nixon hoped nobody you know in a law

enforcement you about that that
1971 million dollar bribe but it would

be hard to start putting those pieces
together if

you know if mobsters get called for a
congressional committees and

hey you know if he could be a real mess
up so he had to literally risked his

presidency
to do that and then we saw what happened

in so that the anniversaries we're
coming up on

tomorrow fortieth anniversary
%uh nixon going on live prime-time

television
I was in washington at the time I think

I was up
teenager or are not back to all the

stock and I go past the white house to
all these demonstrators trip back to the

hotel
here with my family he said why not

richard nixon
all a whole lot hold it right there will

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it's the its multiple watergate
anniversaries are talking with my water

in his
his new book watergate the hidden

history nixon the mafia and the CIA
okay

Mar you were saying right so in
in the forty years ago tomorrow richard

nixon when on live prime-time television
and it doesn't surprise me some

announced that he was resigning the
presidency effective I believe it was

noon
the next day which would be have this

coming Saturday is the
fortieth anniversary of him actually you

leaving the White House in his
helicopter everything

but you know I I gotta say I mean yeah
it was a huge

you know disgrace for him to have to
resign the presidency but

he was able to keep all of this stuff
under wraps for many many many years

and he should have gone to jail for his
crimes

are you know the only reason he didn't
was that he was pardoned

by the new president gerald ford who
maintained while he was

I believe he's dead are yes it I think
forced

for make a while he was alive he had
never cut a deal to become

president nixon's original vice
president spiro agnew had been very

corrupted
it had to leave office cuz of corruption

scandal are
he was a it was a chris Christie a type

exactly degree
receive his day here and then he was

replaced by general for the former
warring Commissioner

and Ford said no look I didn't make a
deal that you make me vice president

I'll pardon you
but no other people very skeptical about

that sort of thing
and so are are nixon was able to keep

all the stuff
under wraps plus we have to look at this

nixon stayed alive
several participants in the same of the

applause are
proper cokie fun to cross country coach

Marcello they were godfathers they were
the top dogs

up below them in the mob hierarchy was
same gene Khan who was never a guard

he was a mob boss at Chicago be with the
Godfather

and the people I try Roselli wasn't even
ma party with a Mafia don

so in 1975 finally
are you know are a are six months after

nixon's resignation
finally the rest of the world catches up

to Jack Anderson
and they they start talking about the CA

mafia plot
because I we have 20 Fort Lee something

to a reporter said
blurt out something so there's a new

Senate committee Senate Church Committee
now the CIA immediately start

stonewalling
and lying to the church committee but

the church committee
they've got some names they've got some

names like a jimmy hoffa
they've got who who by the way wasn't

particularly party see a mafia part in
addition to that bright

they've got same gene com his name
they've got Johnny Roselli

senator Frank church who has
presidential aspirations himself

has this committee gary hart is on it
and are

they start want to call witnesses yellow
so so they're they're ready to call fam

Gymkhana as a witness
well are before same gene kayaking go to

Washington to testify he is one the
first senate witnesses

prospective witnesses ever murdered in
cold blood

killing unsolved to this day aren't
the free the church's committee are

is also been getting some information
under the table

from jimmy hoffa who does not like those
conditions that richard nixon

put on him said is for the bride the
other he can't

run the teamsters again so in revenge
he's leaking information

to here we come ordered a committee but
also the church committee

so before jimmy hoffa can be called as a
witness

are about sexy about the eighty six or
seven weeks after its empty kinda

jimmy hoffa idk is merged
doubt that this is the church committee

stonewall huge
by the CIA the church we don't get

interview Johnny Roselli several times
each time Roselli

you have to reveal more and more he was
listed in

or did small right there all hand right
there law will be right back

it which I want my Waldren book
watergate the hidden history

it matter talking with all my Walter
larger

watergate the hidden history necks in
the Mafia and the CIA

and were in the story up to 27 and 1975
the church committee Frank church

and gary hart much of the guys looking
into

nixon's potential crimes and they
subpoena

the same Gymkhana and he gets a he is
whacked in the subpoena Jimmy haha funny

gets whacked and now they're gonna
subpoena

another talking to Johnny Roselli right
right here they had not actually

subpoenaed
jimmy hoffa yet because he's he's kinda

passing information to the search me
under the table

right the somebody found out about that
something they stop that

and owned by the way the the guy who's
connected

to to both of those murders and the 1
I'm about to tell you about

is Center traffic cocky but are carlos
marcello in sum the other mob bosses

would of course
all signed off on these things so Johnny

Roselli have to testify several times
each time he has to reveal more and more

and in a course you know these are the
same guys

proper party in marcella later admitted
later admitted

are their involvement in JFK's murder
Johnny Roselli

would later admit are his role in JFK's
murder

so so that that that that that that's
the big crime these guys are tried

that's why you murders are happening not
just to hide the CIA mafia part in the

bride
big deal to the bar to try to hide the

fact that killed jack kennedy
prided this from the same officers

killed decades as is when Johnny Roselli
turns up in

in body parts in a 55-gallon drum
floating in the bay shortly after just a

few weeks after he has
literally as last deal with Center

traffic on T
down in South Florida he shows up in a

55-gallon oil drum dismembered cut apart
and that's just such a huge thing other

CIA has already
torpedoed freight churches Senate

Intelligence Committee investigation
they

they did a huge media PR effort they
stole all they did not give all the

files they were supposed to take a lot
of the information

so churches committee is kinda more
abundant out point are

Howard are have leaders Howard Baker now
howard baker

are are Schweiger Arden
are senator Schweiker with continuing

investigation on his own that's
that's what they didn't want rosalee

talking word out to center Schweiker
so a new committee was formed in the

wake up Johnny Roselli 0 sensational
murder

are and that with the help select
committee on assassinations

the CIA continue to lie to install wall
and burglarized they're safe so where

was herbert hoover our lives
do what where is herbert hoover analysts

I not herbert hoover right there J edgar
hoover she's

well one reason everything went to heck
so much J edgar hoover died in may of

nineteen
seventy-two people should realize he

died
suddenly literally I believe it was the

day after Jack Anderson
same big columnist are you know

watergate
I mean the Woodward and Bernstein before

Woodward and Bernstein jack anderson ran
a column saying he had learned about all

the crimes appear Gruber it was getting
ready to expose

though expose though so know there's I'm
sure that was a lot of stress on J edgar

hoover have been breaking the law for
years

still some people have speculated he
committed suicide but

so he'd lol he died before the first
watergate

a burglary so he's added a picture his
new

are replacement L patrick gray is up
functionary to richard nixon

the guy who should have become CIA
director with Mark felt

mark felt as angry at not becoming I'm
sorry FBI director

and he's the guy we now know is
deepthroat starts leaking too would but

he doesn't tell Woodward almost off
about are the Mafia the mafia ties have

watergate burglar Frank Sturgis real
name freight Fiorini

awarded a tighter Bernard Parker 48 at
the mob ties have

have most to the Watergate burglars so
it's he hides fat

hear something your listeners have never
heard because I just found this out

recently
Senate Watergate Committee they actually

interview Johnny Roselli
in secret you'll find this in the in the

watergate
reporter in in all the president's men

or or in the
follow-up are car Woodward and Bernstein

book but
are the final days but Senate Watergate

Committee
interview Johnny Roselli in secret

learned about the CA mafia plots learned
that that was what

the election was so worried about and
that they want the very investigators to

interview Johnny Roselli for the senate
watergate committee

soon went to work 4 bob woodward me
on on the final days and so I asked a

resizable
what it would work say when you told him

about Johnny Roselli all the mob stuff
because there's no mob stuff

in all the president's men or in the
final days

he said you know it really did not come
up

are you know we were busy on other stuff
nixon had resigned there all these other

crimes
he said it didn't come up and chill just

Roselli we found that oil drum
by that time that was in nineteen

seventy 6
you know that we're so far beyond those

books Woodward had moved on to other
subjects so

so that's why you will not find the
Mafia in Johnny Roselli

any of the conventional watergate expert
but with

thanks to the library of congress thanks
to the National Archives

thanks to have an extra game all day a I
was able to get near the actual

interview notes of Johnny Roselli
by the senate watergate committee in the

had all this great material so
that stuff is all in are whattttt in

history for the first time
but what your listeners should know is

he had it is a million files related to
watergate nixon the Mafia

and the JFK assassination CIA still
withholding

million pages the files there's a law
passed in nineteen

92 unanimously by congress to
to release all the JFK assassination

records that created the JFK
assassination records review board

to see a live to that review board they
withheld information from that review

board
I was able to tell some board

investigators tough to see a with hiding
in the got summer that all other

so it is just ridiculous to see a keep
getting away

with hiding in stonewalling congress
burglarizing

you know they're you know breaking in on
on their computers and safe

a its time people did something is going
to be a big effort

in late September this can be a
conference in Washington at least last

weekend
fiftieth anniversary of the Warren

Report CA with force with health stuff
from the warren commission's

and that's really can be the last chance
right people I believe there's a leak on

your website if they
they go to my facebook in history home

site which i think is not only for your
website

then out that he and in the coming weeks
we'll have more information about that

congress will start a new White House
petition people she contacted him to the

partisans
K you are we gonna wrap it up but lamar

waldron
JK historian of the watergate the hidden

history next in the marquee in the CIA
you can find it

yeah over facebook look for hidden
history thank you lamar

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