0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 it is a major anniversary with regard to[br]Richard Nixon and Watergate as several 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 of them happening throughout this week[br]the CIA spy a non-congress thing that 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 has dianne feinstein so upset turns out[br]that was not the first that happened 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 back during the next nearer[br]as well and a llamar Waldren the other 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 several books including the updated[br]trade paperback edition 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 above watergate the hidden history nixon[br]the mafia and the CIA 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 is on the line with us are welcome back[br]great to be with you tom 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 and and I should say the website is over[br]Facebook 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 to dot com hidden dash history to have[br]the right well 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 if they look are they can find it[br]somewhere on Facebook is hidden history 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 that's correct[br]okay so a let's 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 let's begin with the this contemporary[br]the CIA is spying on congress who is 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 spying on the congressional committee[br]that was 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 lou you know looking to see whether the[br]CIA was involved in 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 illegal torture um how and why is the[br]CIA spy non-members a congress not 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 unique to this era well for me it was[br]just so shocking when we heard about 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 that at the CIA was going and I believe[br]looking at the computers that the 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 congressional[br]staff investigators were using an he 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 lets[br]battery so he intrusive paying for the 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 CIA to be doing[br]we should remember the CIA is not really 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 supposed to be operating[br]in the United States your national 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 security[br]threats in the United States was 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 supposed to be the are[br]in the into the FBI other national 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 security type organizations Homeland[br]Security 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 not the CIA which must be dealing with[br]foreign threats 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 so that it was just so shocking because[br]hit 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 it brought back comedian probably are[br]I even to you some some memories from 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 what it happened back in the late[br]nineteen seventies 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 several congressional committees[br]starting during watergate 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 especially in the late nineteen[br]seventies in 1978 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 1979 when there was a congressional[br]committee 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 the last big investigation of the decade[br]called the house select committee on 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 assassinations[br]an inning to you remember I seventy nine 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 is where been during the carter[br]administration 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 right is start 78 within 2 79 under the[br]carter administration 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 are the CIA director at that time was[br]stansfield turner 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 who took over from girl george bush who[br]did under gerald ford 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 but it's important to note before we go[br]into this 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 I i don't believe for a moment jimmy[br]carter 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 or stansfield turner his CA director he[br]authorized 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 the operations I'm about to tell you[br]about because they're just too 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 incredible operations[br]hi I firmly believe that your presents 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 coming go[br]CA directors are largely a political 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 office they coming go[br]which you have these high-level career 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 CIA guys who have been in for twenty or[br]twenty-five years 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 they have things to hide there there[br]there 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 you note regardless accuse president for[br]you see a director 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 so I'm I would be very certain if they[br]mess misrepresented things to their 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 superiors including stansfield turner in[br]a bit gotta hi Jimmy Carter 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 and you won't even talk about the[br]freemen you why they did that 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 so here's what happened he had these[br]congressional investigators including 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 our old[br]good friend gate in pharmacy are were 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 out looking into all sorts of things[br]related to JFK's assassination 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 and the CIA because the course CIA[br]assets in agent had surfaced as a 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 suspect[br]so are one night a congressional staffer 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 who had authorization[br]was looking at the autopsy photographs 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 of JFK's murder[br]and and initially are you love 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 close to save shipping back in the safe[br]are 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 you will win away when she came back so[br]she put these photos in the safe in a in 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 a nice book[br]are here to protect them close safe they 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 didn't like it because she was coming[br]back soon 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 we seek she came back she noticed[br]the book with their the autopsy 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 photographs was there[br]but one in particular with on top 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 of the notebook it wasn't you and the[br]notebook where she had put it 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 so she immediately called an alert talk[br]to the 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 director up the house select committee[br]on assassinations of the noted attorney 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 the robert blakey within a mafia[br]prosecutor for opportunity 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 and blakey call the FBI at see[br]here who who had guardian to the the 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 House Select Committee[br]safe and and look at this JFK material 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 without authorization while[br]staffer was out of the room you know 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 somebody the clearly looking in with[br]surprised 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 when she came back so quickly Soviet[br]times but the notebook back in but not 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 time to put that photograph in the[br]notebook 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 well italian fingerprints on their[br]photograph 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 and you'll never guess who those[br]fingerprints belong to 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 they belong to the CIA's security[br]representative 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 who is charged with helping this[br]congressional committee 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 yet important information from the CIA[br]which is essentially the exact same 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 thing that happened dianne feinstein the[br]the CIA 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 folks who were tasked with Gandhi of to[br]congress all the information needed 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 where the ones were spying on congress[br]exactly right any and believe it or not 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 it gets works in and we can see by the[br]way 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 when the CIA get away with things back[br]in 1978 and 1979 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 of course they're gonna keep doing them[br]ten twenty thirty years later 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 so they're just gonna keep doing what[br]works so 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 so the FBI found out it was it was this[br]guy are regis blog what was his name 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 he denied it of course a polygraph him[br]three times a key fail three polygraph 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 yes according to get funded and aren't[br]and then he finally admitted he had the 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 heat on in there he never explained why[br]accepted he was I believe curious 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 you know which is you don't break[br]security rules and file congress get 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 you're curious you're following orders[br]the PA fired him but not his supervisor 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 they didn't go up the chain of command[br]so the the the committee never really 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 felt that what the incident was about[br]the CIA apologized and said look 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 will be better will assign you a new guy[br]kak 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 is our representative he so good we're[br]gonna call him out of retirement 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 and if your help you get what you need[br]from the CIA because 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 is congressional investigator Fonzie[br]hand and the director 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 regular like you later said you know the[br]CIA had really 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 been difficult about giving them[br]important material 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 so but but they had a new representative[br]now wasn't going to rifle 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 say well it it's ridiculous[br]so the CIA had having the help select 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 committee had been looking for one[br]particular CIA officer 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 who had dealt with a cuban exile group[br]had a lot of contact with oswald 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 we r BR walled are the the chief suspect[br]in the summer 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 1963 in the CIA with say what we we just[br]can't find a CIA officer you wanna talk 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 to you we don't know where years[br]but here here's this new guy your new 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 liaison[br]he's gonna help you find that CIA 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 officer he's gonna help you get all the[br]files you been warning that we haven't 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 quite been able to fight[br]well I almost don't have to tell you 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 what happened with the CIA officer the[br]committee was looking for 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 CIA actually made their new liaison[br]with the congressional committee the CIA 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 officer[br]the committee wanted to interview but 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 they didn't tell the committee that[br]so all the time blakey engage in Farsi 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 all the congressional staffers in the[br]members of congress 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 are saying to the CIA representative[br]help us find this guy who was with the 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 you know who directed the cuban exile[br]organization with all the songs will 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 contact help us find the sky[br]and they're telling that to the guy 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 himself who was the guy who directed[br]that cuban exile organization but they 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 didn't know that[br]and so they were just completely 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 deceived and that lasted[br]until the into the committee which is 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 why there's one reason[br]you're still so much controversy about 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 you know the JFK assassination the day[br]because the CAA didn't give 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 are about a million records they should[br]have to the committee 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 and the appointed this guy who should[br]have been put under oath in question 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 because the committee wanted to[br]interrogate him they made him 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 the liaison all without telling the[br]committee what Israel background was so 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 we can see how when the CIA get away[br]with that 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 all those years ago when they deceive[br]not just congress but they aren't 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 certain they deceived president carter[br]is he a director stansfield turner was 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 not the number[br]3 guy in the CIA $archivename Kate 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 Shaklee[br]was the guy who probably was behind all 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 this[br]good partner had nothing to hide 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 transporter had nothing to hide[br]of catchy actually within the head up 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 Miami CIA station[br]back in the early fifties the AAA headed 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 back to top[br]connie was running outta another 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 right now working with he was acting[br]working on the 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 hot Rick mormon more with mr. Walter[br]right after this sticker 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 this is the Thom Hartmann program[br]from our new book watergate the hidden 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 history nixon the mafia and the CIA[br]welcome back 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 lamar water install with us you still[br]hear lamar right start now I'm 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 so it you're gonna say architects it's[br]so ironic 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 now with what we know now and that's[br]really describe in watergate the hidden 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 history for the first time[br]is exactly what CIA with so desperate to 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 hide from congress that they would stage[br]a burglary 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 you know they were there was it was[br]burglarized safe have a congressional 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 committee[br]and oddly enough it was to hide the true 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 information[br]about another burglary which everyone's 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 familiar with[br]the watergate burglary and in and how 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 that watergate burglary[br]in 1972 you know is connected to that 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 burglary[br]as congress in in in the late seventies 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 and the[br]ongoing deceptions comforts remember the 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 CIA has never come clean[br]about putting that that making their new 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 liaison after the burglary[br]suspect a very suspect house committee 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 wanted[br]they never admitted that in fact they 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 deceived another[br]committee created by congress the 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 assassination records review board in[br]the nineties about that it was only a 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 a washington post reporter by the name[br]of Jefferson morley to discover that 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 deception[br]and his as hell of it going I believe 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 for maybe[br]no eight or ten years now trying to get 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 the CIA to at least come clean about[br]that guy and and the CIA won't even do 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 that[br]and so the CIA has basically been hiding 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 information[br]since the warren commission's certainly 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 but they hit it[br]they had important information about 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 nixon in the Mafia and the CIA[br]from the senate watergate committee the 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 committee a prank church in the mid[br]1970s the church committee they had the 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 mafia witnesses who got murdered right[br]out from under the committee 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 you're from jimmy hoffa sam giancana to[br]Johnny Roselli 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 and in the house select committee in the[br]CAA deceived 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 the assassination records review board[br]created by Congress in the nineties 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 in the CA still refuses to release[br]these file so is probably now time to 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 tell people so what what was this big[br]secret you know that they were all 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 keeping about nixon in the Mafia[br]and that was very simply 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 in 1960 when richard nixon the vice[br]president for eight years 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 was running against are Senator John F[br]Kennedy 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 are a nixon didn't have the money[br]sister that the Jonah Keri had 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 the case file was when the rich in[br]america: I he didn't have any waiver 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 support relief from the major unions[br]arms but he did have the Mafia so 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 richard nixon in the summer of nineteen[br]sixty few months before the election 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 ordered the CIA to hire the Mafia[br]specifically these mobsters like camper 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 Miami godfather[br]son to traffic RT in China Roselli the 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 Chicago marty is man in Las Vegas in[br]hollywood 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 nixon had the CIA hire those mobsters[br]to assassinate fidel castro before the 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 election[br]but but there's more at the same time 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 nixon also got in this is verified by[br]the justice department 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 time magazine lot a credible sources[br]that day a new PBS special that's right 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 knee[br]right now in fact are nixon from the 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 same of you guys[br]he got a million dollar bribe to stall 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 some charges[br]against jimmy hoffa as the Sun Valley 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 land deal exactly[br]and so because the kennedys that help to 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 bring attention to jimmy hoffa's ties[br]with the Mafia 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 so so it was a package deal for nixon[br]you get the CIA to hire these mobsters 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 kill Fidel before the election for the[br]people will go with you endurance vice 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 president[br]and you get a million dollars for your 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 campaign from those say mobbed[br]that me hang on just a second model will 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 continue this in just a moment to talk[br]with Mr Walgren 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 his new book watergate the hidden[br]history nixon 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 a mafia and the CIA[br]the ball back tomorrow on has a new book 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 out dirt out now in paperback I believe[br]watergate the hidden history nixon the 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 mafia and the CIA[br]to have the right lamar that's correct 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 and a[br]just just to summarize what you just 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 said you were you[br]we started out talking about this the 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 CIA spy non-congress[br]and and the you know breaking into the 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 safe and then putting a guy the Congress[br]was looking for the the gate barges 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 committee that the slight sense[br]at the house like manifestations they 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 were kinda and which concluded by the[br]way that 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 JFK was killed as a result of a[br]conspiracy and not just any conspiracy 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 but they they said that that santo[br]traffic party 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 and also carlos marcello who was also[br]keen on those see a mafia plots can that 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 nixon bribe[br]that they had the quote motive means an 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 opportunity to have assassinated JFK[br]they could not conclusively Penate on 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 prophet ITN marcella they did conclude[br]it was a conspiracy 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 because the CIA as well the FBI but[br]especially 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 CA withheld so much information from[br]the house alright so in 78 when they 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 have withheld that'd when when they[br]broke into the 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 the files the it's like Betty they're[br]doing so because they were trying to 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 hide something that they did in seventy[br]two 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 which was their involvement with[br]watergate and they were 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 and that was because they were trying to[br]hide something that they did in nineteen 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 sixty[br]which was richard nixon was mobbed up 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 but he brought[br]he ordered the CIA to hire the mob and 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 then[br]you know the the CIA gave up on trying 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 to the mob mob then give a million[br]dollar bribe debt 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 to nixon to get to get jimmy hoffa how[br]to jail basically 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 well I can't keep him from going to jail[br]him from going to jail yeah 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 and obey with the Sun Valley land deal[br]and so we're kinda back at the beginning 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 I mean this is a right this is ok but[br]let's let's let's jump ahead 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 71 and 72 because thats that was in the[br]past to and I think you might agree tom 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 a lot of nixon's supporters see you[br]remember how conservative law-and-order 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 he was[br]that we should you know I should did I 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 just say for for our younger listeners[br]and viewers 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 in 1960 richard nixon was not only[br]running against jack kennedy for the 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 presidency the United States[br]he was the vice president had been for 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 eight years[br]under eisenhower he so it's in the only 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 real area foreign policy nixon was[br]involved 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 was allowed to really pee involved with[br]with cuba because eisenhower did not 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 wanna touch cuba[br]in nixon had long ties to cuba both 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 through the Mafia[br]into private business deals with his 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 best friend and business partner[br]peery bozo so I kinda left with happy 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 to leave cuba the nixon's good friend[br]the dictator batista had been overthrown 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 by fidel castro[br]would not yet declared himself communist 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 so people with a lot of turmoil them off[br]he wasn't happy about having their 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 casinos[br]first close then reopened they were 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 reopened[br]are the the Cuban government put out 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 soldier of fortune by the name of rates[br]you're really in charge is the liaison 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 between fidel's government hand the[br]mobsters who were still 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 running the casinos even though they did[br]not hold on so 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 so the mobster seem the ideal choice by[br]the CIA 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 22 basically try to kill fidel and to[br]get the blame for it 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 in but but of course the Mafia was not[br]successfully killing fidel castro 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 because they didn't want to take the[br]blame 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 some of you knew if they took the blame[br]for killing fidel no way we get to keep 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 running their casinos anyway[br]so fidel was not killed half are the 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 charges were stalled but then they were[br]reinstated after nixon of the election 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 what flashy head in 1971 nixon is[br]president because he 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 kinda committed treason Winnie he[br]stonewalled the 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 he threw a monkey wrench into the peace[br]negotiations that lyndon johnson had to 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 end the war in Vietnam and 68 soap nixon[br]became president and I'll 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 a Jack Anderson who is humor when he was[br]a very well-known columnist by Erica 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 you stay here he he wrote up a a weekly[br]column for parade magazine the 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 everybody read and he was you will you[br]know he was 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 America's most famous investigative[br]reporter he was Woodward and Bernstein 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 before Woodward and Bernstein came along[br]exactly right in January if 71 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 are watergate the last for the burger[br]which unit 72 so 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 so more than a year before watergate[br]Jack Anderson wrote a couple columns 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 that almost exposed the CIA mafia nixon[br]plots 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 from the early sixties and that really[br]alarmed richard nixon and we know that 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 now cuz we have files including summer[br]I'm have your children the book for the 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 first time where senate watergate[br]committee later found out 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 that the election was really worry when[br]they jack anderson article appeared cell 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 what did nixon do he had his[br]he had this recently retired in output 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 retired in quotes with the case concerns[br]former high CIA official by name a-z 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 Howard hot[br]any Howard heart he just recently been 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 the chief of covert operations for all[br]of Western Europe 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 I don't have to tell you Tom in the cold[br]war being cheaper 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 covert operations for all the Western[br]Europe I mean that was 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 that was as the top of the pile yeah be[br]your your you're you're not james bond 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 James Bond[br]supervise you know your right at the top 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 got that had been ERA hunched couple[br]years earlier 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 he was a protege of PBN CIA director[br]Richard Helms 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 and so are he Howard heart goes to work[br]for the white house 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 and he gets his old buddies from the sea[br]a mafia plot days including 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 bernard barker a long time mobster from[br]the late forties 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 who in the FBI knew that are in the CAA[br]knew that so that's why 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 in september of nineteen sixty when the[br]see a mafia plots were 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 coming together a back to the end you[br]howard hunt had a bad experience 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 so the CIA had assigned hot this new[br]assistant 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 bernard barker who was a longtime are[br]mob operative for Santa cross-party 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 so are hot got bar to read a bunch of[br]other people from 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 about whether CIA agents in assets who[br]had worked on 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 various parts say mafia plot they became[br]what's known as the white house 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 plumber's[br]and and they were formed before the 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 daniel ellsberg are[br]revelations about the pentagon papers 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 where their first jobs was to burglarize[br]the annual ellsberg's psychiatrist's 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 office why would they do that[br]well because daniel ellsberg here and 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 vietnam back when ellsberg still working[br]for the government 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 have been very close to the daughter[br]have one of the art up the last see a 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 supervisor[br]for see a marquee nixon plots because 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 those plotted continued[br]unknown to John Robert Kennedy into 1963 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 in under the kennedys even though they[br]never authorized those parts 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 richard helms number three and the CA[br]back in in 63 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 he continued those plots without telling[br]his own CIA director 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 so they were worried that the daughter[br]that CIA official might have to hold 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 annual held[br]are the the EPA was also worried that 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 member Salvador Allende be headed Chile[br]the program 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 socialist what he was very close to[br]Fidel Castro 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 the CIA worried debt debt cash to buy[br]have told him 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 the National had compiled the long[br]report 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 many hurting our you will continue after[br]the break tomorrow aldrin weathers his 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 new book[br]the hidden history watergate you're 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 listening to but Tom Hartman program[br]call 866 987 thon 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 mars the book watergate the hidden[br]history nixon the mafia and the CIA 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 hold back with Marwat[br]do 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 what about with you and Mr Walgren[br]on the line with us he's the he's got a 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 new book out[br]I R newly out in paperback came out a 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 little earlier in the year[br]title watergate the hidden history nixon 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 the mafia and the CIA lamar welcome back[br]great to be with you can also if you 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 could to recap the first half hour of[br]our conversation in about five sentences 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 and then let's move forward from there[br]please sure the most important thing was 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 that the[br]current are CA spying on congress 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 scandal wasn't the first there was a big[br]one 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 two big ones in late ninety in the late[br]nineteen seventies 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 with the say burglarized to[br]congressional safe which caught 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 be replaced their publicly fire liaison[br]with an actual suspect to the committee 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 wanted to interrogate but they didn't[br]tell the committee this week 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 suspect they were looking for but what[br]the CIA was worried about 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 from that committee and and several[br]others in nineteen seventies 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 are concerned richard nixon[br]and in his use of the Mafia are 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 a if you have the CIA har the Mafia[br]to try to kill fidel castro before the 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 1960 election was back when nixon was[br]vice president 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 when nixon vice president was when he[br]gets a bitter China Katie and at the 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 same time nixon[br]is the nixon ties with the market go 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 back to started his political career[br]nixon with so tight in the Mafia he also 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 got a million dollar bra I[br]22 stall charges on jimmy hoffa from the 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 same[br]mob bosses like like Florida center 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 traffic RT[br]and in louisiana's carlos marcello say 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 mob bosses that he was using[br]to try to kill fidel castro from these 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 the guys who alternately also killed[br]jack kennedy 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 well those is traffic ITN Marcelo that[br]same committee 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 that the CIA burglarized are safe in the[br]late seventies 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 they concluded more so in traffic RT had[br]the motive means an opportunity to have 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 killed JFK[br]they concluded jackie was killed by 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 conspiracy but they couldn't[br]directly finger a hundred percent more 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 so in traffic RT[br]because the CIA had withheld so much 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 information from them[br]right for so now we're in 1971 in Jack 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 Anderson the leading newspaper reporter[br]for time 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 his is put out a couple of articles that[br]almost exposed 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 see a mafia nixon plots from 1960[br]in response nixon gets veterans have 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 those plots[br]like hi CA official are 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 he Howard hart who's recently quote[br]retiring quote from CA 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 hot old mafia assistant bernard barker[br]along country a Asian bodywork for the 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 Mafia[br]specifically traffic RT far longer and 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 other guys who had worked on various[br]parts to the same RT a plot 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 they become the white house plumber's[br]the first burglarized 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 the office obtain your health bar the[br]Pentagon Papers guys 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 psychiatrists because ellsberg have been[br]closed to the daughter 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 the last CIA supervisor for the CIA[br]mafia nixon plots that were continued 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 into JFK's administration into 1963[br]into the fall 63 without telling 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 John and Robert Kennedy and so but they[br]didn't find anything else Burke 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 psychiatrist after so nixon[br]top of it in OK that nothing else is 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 gonna come out[br]Henderson wrote no more articles so by 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 December up 1971[br]we're we're still seven months before 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 the watergate break-in up last one[br]nixon's feeling pretty confident he he 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 he wants money for his reelection next[br]year 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 he would like to cut a deal with the[br]teamsters to get their support 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 because uniqueness basically anti-union[br]president some OC and are gonna 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 support him the teamsters in those days[br]could be bought 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 can so nixon in December 71[br]it's it's just remarkable like any 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 career criminal he keeps doing what he[br]gets away with 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 and he gets a brand new wanna[br]billion dollar bribe from planter 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 traffic RT carlos marcello and their[br]associates 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 this time to release jimmy hoffa from[br]prison but with special conditions 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 keep are far from resuming control the[br]teamsters 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 scope of was a tough guy and the current[br]teamster chief in 1951 frankfort Simmons 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 which frankly up a pussy cat in a[br]pushover 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 and the Mafia would rather have[br]Fitzsimmons running things 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 in the volatile hot-headed tough jimmy[br]hoffa 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 so you got a new mafia bribe their are[br]to richard nixon from the same guys from 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 62 same company Brycen[br]same guys it supposedly try to talk 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 castro forum[br]splashy had till May 1972 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 a month before the last 48 break-in are[br]or the CIA gets word that castro has 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 compiled[br]list a detailed report not just a list a 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 detailed detailed report into sections[br]about although the CAA's a chance to 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 kill him[br]nixon knows those attempts started on 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 richard nixon's orders[br]he wants to know what's in that report 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 because he doesn't want that coming in[br]up during the seventy two elections 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 wherein maeve 72 now[br]the democratic nominee has not even been 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 chosen and it still could[br]could be anyone up several people not 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 just george mcgovern who eventually got[br]it 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 ted kennedy was still in the running are[br]several other people were still in the 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 running[br]so are Nick said next it when any those 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 guys[br]to be able to put this out n he knew 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 they just five months earlier[br]he take a new bra I from the say 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 mobsters he used on this fidel operation[br]so are Fidelis close Salvador Allende 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 the socialist are[br]ahead of Chile the Chilean embassy 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 in washington is burglarized by the[br]Watergate burglars 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 and there's even a watergate taped it[br]almost completely ignored by the media 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 the New York Times are there's an[br]article about it in the late 90's 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 through the watergate tapes withheld[br]from the watergate committee that 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 everybody for years[br]in which nixon admits he does that the 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 Watergate burglars[br]had burglarized the Chilean embassy it 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 and not just very important because[br]nixon 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 knew that if he clearly they were doing[br]anything he didn't want them to do that 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 we doing it for him[br]they were doing it for the the end CIA 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 director we continue those[br]see a mafia plots without authorization 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 into the[br]JFK administration they don't find the 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 report their[br]so then they're worried the democratic 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 national committee has[br]because nixon had used any Howard hot 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 functionary[br]to be 10 their liaisons with the mafia 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 and the CIA[br]head Hughes are was employed at that 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 time the head of the democratic national[br]committee larry o'brien 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 so if you do about the plot so there was[br]worry what if you said some help hold 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 are clearly O'Brien and you know Brock[br]anyhow ready 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 area I mean we're talking no the the the[br]reclusive billionaire Howard Hughes 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 yeah the reclusive billionaire Howard[br]Hughes which part 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 are the original CIA mafia nixon plots[br]in 1960 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 to the big longtime nixon supporter are[br]any was also in tight with the mob thus 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 his activities in Vegas[br]right oh yeah another words the that the 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 key mobster in all this Johnny Roselli[br]the Chicago market 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 man in las vegas The Hollywood he was[br]closed to traffic RT 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 Johnny Roselli from the same occupied[br]he's the guy that brokered although the 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 deal 4[br]are Howard Hughes the billionaire to buy 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 these casinos from the Mafia[br]and that they believe the Mafia in 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 charge so the Mafia keep skimming money[br]it was rightfully have received so they 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 got to sell because the their casinos to[br]use thanks to John Rose LA 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 well they got to keep follow mark got to[br]keep on skimming money out the children 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 he is[br]so so they were worried election was 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 worried they're dead[br]that Larry O'Brien who was a consultant 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 for e4 our used[br]had somehow found out about the spot so 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 that's why the Watergate burglars[br]made not one not two not three for a 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 chance[br]to burglarize the offices at the 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 Democratic National Committee[br]to see if they had a copy I love that 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 reported it was on the fourth and final[br]burglary attempt 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 that that they were caught and that that[br]everything hit the fan so to speak right 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 so[br]so what the Watergate burglars were 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 looking for[br]in a nutshell was the 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 E was evidence have previous crimes[br]committed by richard nixon 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 that he believed that the the democrats[br]the democrats might have gotten the 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 got their hands on exactly they might[br]have gotten it through high and the 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 specific crimes that he was that the[br]specific things that the Watergate 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 burglars are looking for[br]in 72 were what 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 were worth with this report and I put a[br]report in the book by the way it came 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 out a couple years later[br]but with no word by the time I casters 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 report yeah we are catchers report is[br]actually 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 in the book people can see what nixon[br]sacrifices present report 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 it may get if they came out finally a[br]couple years later george mcgovern got a 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 copy from fidel released its[br]but it came out today the day that the 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 mafia murdered[br]jimmy hoffa the same up here as well 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 and so so CEO you can tell what what the[br]hell I was that day in for the next two 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 weeks[br]that we are doing the opposite 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 disappearance course murder which front[br]page news 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 but yes we have easy to get a copy[br]report in a rapid report in the book 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 that okay here's here's the issue is[br]nunu remember how nixon supporters were 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 nixon supporters in 1972[br]they would have been upset that he had 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 hired the Mafia to try to kill fidel[br]castro back in nineteen sixty 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 but a lot of nixon supporters all of[br]them didn't like castro 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 a lot of them would have still voted for[br]nixon right but nixon 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 made his bowls as the law and order[br]president we didn't know about all this 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 nearly felonies[br]Canadian selling out america to the big 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 corporations[br]so they were even nixon's most ardent 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 supporters[br]would not have like no the on two 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 occasions[br]in 1960 1971 nixon had gotten a million 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 dollar bra[br]I from those say mobsters right so 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 so taking a bribe is far less a[br]appealing than 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 then you know hiring the mob to kill mo[br]what's perceived as a bad guy 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 bad political Ackley exactly so so nixon[br]knew that if that report came out if it 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 had these mobsters in it[br]any new the justice department knew 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 about the nineteen sixty[br]drive because the to inform a dealer 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 that in 1962[br]robert kennedy had known about it but 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 hadn't made a public are[br]in nixon hoped nobody you know in a law 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 enforcement you about that that[br]1971 million dollar bribe but it would 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 be hard to start putting those pieces[br]together if 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 you know if mobsters get called for a[br]congressional committees and 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 hey you know if he could be a real mess[br]up so he had to literally risked his 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 presidency[br]to do that and then we saw what happened 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 in so that the anniversaries we're[br]coming up on 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 tomorrow fortieth anniversary[br]%uh nixon going on live prime-time 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 television[br]I was in washington at the time I think 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 I was up[br]teenager or are not back to all the 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 stock and I go past the white house to[br]all these demonstrators trip back to the 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 hotel[br]here with my family he said why not 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 richard nixon[br]all a whole lot hold it right there will 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 be back you're listening to the Thom[br]Hartmann program 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 visit Thom Hartmann dot com for audio[br]and video archive 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 it's the its multiple watergate[br]anniversaries are talking with my water 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 in his[br]his new book watergate the hidden 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 history nixon the mafia and the CIA[br]okay 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 Mar you were saying right so in[br]in the forty years ago tomorrow richard 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 nixon when on live prime-time television[br]and it doesn't surprise me some 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 announced that he was resigning the[br]presidency effective I believe it was 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 noon[br]the next day which would be have this 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 coming Saturday is the[br]fortieth anniversary of him actually you 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 leaving the White House in his[br]helicopter everything 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 but you know I I gotta say I mean yeah[br]it was a huge 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 you know disgrace for him to have to[br]resign the presidency but 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 he was able to keep all of this stuff[br]under wraps for many many many years 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 and he should have gone to jail for his[br]crimes 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 are you know the only reason he didn't[br]was that he was pardoned 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 by the new president gerald ford who[br]maintained while he was 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 I believe he's dead are yes it I think[br]forced 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 for make a while he was alive he had[br]never cut a deal to become 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 president nixon's original vice[br]president spiro agnew had been very 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 corrupted[br]it had to leave office cuz of corruption 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 scandal are[br]he was a it was a chris Christie a type 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 exactly degree[br]receive his day here and then he was 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 replaced by general for the former[br]warring Commissioner 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 and Ford said no look I didn't make a[br]deal that you make me vice president 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 I'll pardon you[br]but no other people very skeptical about 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 that sort of thing[br]and so are are nixon was able to keep 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 all the stuff[br]under wraps plus we have to look at this 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 nixon stayed alive[br]several participants in the same of the 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 applause are[br]proper cokie fun to cross country coach 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 Marcello they were godfathers they were[br]the top dogs 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 up below them in the mob hierarchy was[br]same gene Khan who was never a guard 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 he was a mob boss at Chicago be with the[br]Godfather 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 and the people I try Roselli wasn't even[br]ma party with a Mafia don 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 so in 1975 finally[br]are you know are a are six months after 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 nixon's resignation[br]finally the rest of the world catches up 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 to Jack Anderson[br]and they they start talking about the CA 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 mafia plot[br]because I we have 20 Fort Lee something 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 to a reporter said[br]blurt out something so there's a new 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 Senate committee Senate Church Committee[br]now the CIA immediately start 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 stonewalling[br]and lying to the church committee but 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 the church committee[br]they've got some names they've got some 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 names like a jimmy hoffa[br]they've got who who by the way wasn't 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 particularly party see a mafia part in[br]addition to that bright 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 they've got same gene com his name[br]they've got Johnny Roselli 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 senator Frank church who has[br]presidential aspirations himself 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 has this committee gary hart is on it[br]and are 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 they start want to call witnesses yellow[br]so so they're they're ready to call fam 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 Gymkhana as a witness[br]well are before same gene kayaking go to 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 Washington to testify he is one the[br]first senate witnesses 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 prospective witnesses ever murdered in[br]cold blood 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 killing unsolved to this day aren't[br]the free the church's committee are 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 is also been getting some information[br]under the table 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 from jimmy hoffa who does not like those[br]conditions that richard nixon 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 put on him said is for the bride the[br]other he can't 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 run the teamsters again so in revenge[br]he's leaking information 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 to here we come ordered a committee but[br]also the church committee 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 so before jimmy hoffa can be called as a[br]witness 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 are about sexy about the eighty six or[br]seven weeks after its empty kinda 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 jimmy hoffa idk is merged[br]doubt that this is the church committee 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 stonewall huge[br]by the CIA the church we don't get 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 interview Johnny Roselli several times[br]each time Roselli 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 you have to reveal more and more he was[br]listed in 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 or did small right there all hand right[br]there law will be right back 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 it which I want my Waldren book[br]watergate the hidden history 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 it matter talking with all my Walter[br]larger 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 watergate the hidden history necks in[br]the Mafia and the CIA 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 and were in the story up to 27 and 1975[br]the church committee Frank church 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 and gary hart much of the guys looking[br]into 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 nixon's potential crimes and they[br]subpoena 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 the same Gymkhana and he gets a he is[br]whacked in the subpoena Jimmy haha funny 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 gets whacked and now they're gonna[br]subpoena 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 another talking to Johnny Roselli right[br]right here they had not actually 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 subpoenaed[br]jimmy hoffa yet because he's he's kinda 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 passing information to the search me[br]under the table 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 right the somebody found out about that[br]something they stop that 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 and owned by the way the the guy who's[br]connected 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 to to both of those murders and the 1[br]I'm about to tell you about 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 is Center traffic cocky but are carlos[br]marcello in sum the other mob bosses 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 would of course[br]all signed off on these things so Johnny 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 Roselli have to testify several times[br]each time he has to reveal more and more 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 and in a course you know these are the[br]same guys 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 proper party in marcella later admitted[br]later admitted 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 are their involvement in JFK's murder[br]Johnny Roselli 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 would later admit are his role in JFK's[br]murder 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 so so that that that that that that's[br]the big crime these guys are tried 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 that's why you murders are happening not[br]just to hide the CIA mafia part in the 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 bride[br]big deal to the bar to try to hide the 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 fact that killed jack kennedy[br]prided this from the same officers 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 killed decades as is when Johnny Roselli[br]turns up in 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 in body parts in a 55-gallon drum[br]floating in the bay shortly after just a 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 few weeks after he has[br]literally as last deal with Center 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 traffic on T[br]down in South Florida he shows up in a 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 55-gallon oil drum dismembered cut apart[br]and that's just such a huge thing other 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 CIA has already[br]torpedoed freight churches Senate 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 Intelligence Committee investigation[br]they 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 they did a huge media PR effort they[br]stole all they did not give all the 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 files they were supposed to take a lot[br]of the information 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 so churches committee is kinda more[br]abundant out point are 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 Howard are have leaders Howard Baker now[br]howard baker 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 are are Schweiger Arden[br]are senator Schweiker with continuing 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 investigation on his own that's[br]that's what they didn't want rosalee 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 talking word out to center Schweiker[br]so a new committee was formed in the 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 wake up Johnny Roselli 0 sensational[br]murder 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 are and that with the help select[br]committee on assassinations 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 the CIA continue to lie to install wall[br]and burglarized they're safe so where 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 was herbert hoover our lives[br]do what where is herbert hoover analysts 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 I not herbert hoover right there J edgar[br]hoover she's 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 well one reason everything went to heck[br]so much J edgar hoover died in may of 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 nineteen[br]seventy-two people should realize he 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 died[br]suddenly literally I believe it was the 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 day after Jack Anderson[br]same big columnist are you know 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 watergate[br]I mean the Woodward and Bernstein before 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 Woodward and Bernstein jack anderson ran[br]a column saying he had learned about all 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 the crimes appear Gruber it was getting[br]ready to expose 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 though expose though so know there's I'm[br]sure that was a lot of stress on J edgar 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 hoover have been breaking the law for[br]years 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 still some people have speculated he[br]committed suicide but 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 so he'd lol he died before the first[br]watergate 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 a burglary so he's added a picture his[br]new 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 are replacement L patrick gray is up[br]functionary to richard nixon 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 the guy who should have become CIA[br]director with Mark felt 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 mark felt as angry at not becoming I'm[br]sorry FBI director 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 and he's the guy we now know is[br]deepthroat starts leaking too would but 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 he doesn't tell Woodward almost off[br]about are the Mafia the mafia ties have 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 watergate burglar Frank Sturgis real[br]name freight Fiorini 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 awarded a tighter Bernard Parker 48 at[br]the mob ties have 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 have most to the Watergate burglars so[br]it's he hides fat 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 hear something your listeners have never[br]heard because I just found this out 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 recently[br]Senate Watergate Committee they actually 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 interview Johnny Roselli[br]in secret you'll find this in the in the 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 watergate[br]reporter in in all the president's men 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 or or in the[br]follow-up are car Woodward and Bernstein 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 book but[br]are the final days but Senate Watergate 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 Committee[br]interview Johnny Roselli in secret 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 learned about the CA mafia plots learned[br]that that was what 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 the election was so worried about and[br]that they want the very investigators to 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 interview Johnny Roselli for the senate[br]watergate committee 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 soon went to work 4 bob woodward me[br]on on the final days and so I asked a 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 resizable[br]what it would work say when you told him 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 about Johnny Roselli all the mob stuff[br]because there's no mob stuff 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 in all the president's men or in the[br]final days 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 he said you know it really did not come[br]up 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 are you know we were busy on other stuff[br]nixon had resigned there all these other 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 crimes[br]he said it didn't come up and chill just 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 Roselli we found that oil drum[br]by that time that was in nineteen 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 seventy 6[br]you know that we're so far beyond those 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 books Woodward had moved on to other[br]subjects so 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 so that's why you will not find the[br]Mafia in Johnny Roselli 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 any of the conventional watergate expert[br]but with 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 thanks to the library of congress thanks[br]to the National Archives 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 thanks to have an extra game all day a I[br]was able to get near the actual 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 interview notes of Johnny Roselli[br]by the senate watergate committee in the 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 had all this great material so[br]that stuff is all in are whattttt in 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 history for the first time[br]but what your listeners should know is 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 he had it is a million files related to[br]watergate nixon the Mafia 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 and the JFK assassination CIA still[br]withholding 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 million pages the files there's a law[br]passed in nineteen 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 92 unanimously by congress to[br]to release all the JFK assassination 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 records that created the JFK[br]assassination records review board 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 to see a live to that review board they[br]withheld information from that review 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 board[br]I was able to tell some board 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 investigators tough to see a with hiding[br]in the got summer that all other 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 so it is just ridiculous to see a keep[br]getting away 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 with hiding in stonewalling congress[br]burglarizing 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 you know they're you know breaking in on[br]on their computers and safe 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 a its time people did something is going[br]to be a big effort 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 in late September this can be a[br]conference in Washington at least last 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 weekend[br]fiftieth anniversary of the Warren 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 Report CA with force with health stuff[br]from the warren commission's 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 and that's really can be the last chance[br]right people I believe there's a leak on 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 your website if they[br]they go to my facebook in history home 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 site which i think is not only for your[br]website 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 then out that he and in the coming weeks[br]we'll have more information about that 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 congress will start a new White House[br]petition people she contacted him to the 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 partisans[br]K you are we gonna wrap it up but lamar 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 waldron[br]JK historian of the watergate the hidden 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 history next in the marquee in the CIA[br]you can find it 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 yeah over facebook look for hidden[br]history thank you lamar 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250 take it on your great as always a and[br]back atcha 0:00:00.000,0:00:00.250