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The Dark World of Megachurches

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    I was raised as a Catholic,
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    but I wouldn't really describe
    myself as religious today.
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    I had never heard of things like
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    megachurches or televangelism
    or the prosperity gospel.
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    That was until I stumbled
    across an infamous interview.
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    How are you, sir?
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    We'd just like to ask you about why
    you don't want to fly commercial.
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    You've got this journalist that is
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    confronting this guy
    called Kenneth Copeland.
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    You said that you don't like to fly
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    commercial because you don't want to get
    into a tube with a bunch of demons.
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    Do you really believe
    that human beings are demons?
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    No, I do not.
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    And don't you ever say I did get
    in a long tube with a bunch of demons.
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    We wrestle not with flesh and blood,
    but principalities and powers.
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    Copeland is being confronted about
    his purchase of a Gulf Stream jet.
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    And it turns out that that jet is just one
    of a fleet of jets that he owns,
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    along with a boat house,
    a mansion and his very own airport.
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    This is a preacher that is supposedly
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    worth hundreds of millions of dollars
    with an enormous following.
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    And you're telling me
    that he is just one of many?
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    This entire thing is a rabbit hole.
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    Pastor, what is now
    the largest church in America.
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    A weekly sermon watched by more than
    10 million viewers on television.
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    The apostles were businessmen.
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    They were reaching
    in and had plenty of money.
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    I'm going to show you
    that Jesus was a welcome man.
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    Had put any money one of my chandeliers
    costs more than most people's house.
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    I got 22 chandeliers in the house.
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    They're extremely green.
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    They don't need mansions.
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    They don't need jets.
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    God told me to have that thing.
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    Any religious leader who speaks the word
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    of God, who has more than one suit while
    someone has no clothes, is a cop out.
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    Yeah, you know, Larry, I just don't.
    See it that way.
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    For $54 million, I want you to.
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    Imagine how many people could be fed.
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    How many homeless could
    have places to sleep.
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    Fresh, fresh, fresh.
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    Fresh, fresh, fresh.
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    Televangelism is still
    thriving in this place.
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    If you were willing to pay the price,
    you could talk directly to God.
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    When I remember my own personal
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    experiences inside of a church, what
    comes to mind was definitely not this.
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    Times is like a concert.
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    And when the preachers come to preach,
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    it's like a celebrity has
    just taken to the stage.
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    Everyone is worshiping together.
    They're smiling.
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    They're joined in their
    faith and devotion.
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    What we're witnessing is
    something called a megachurch.
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    By definition, a megachurch is just
    a church that has a larger than average
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    congregation, normally
    of 2000 members or above.
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    But when we think of spirituality or forms
    of it, there's normally a distinction
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    between spiritual duty
    and materialistic desires.
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    Now, I'm not a theologian,
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    and I'm not going to pretend to be one,
    but even I remember verses from the Bible
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    when it came to wealth
    and building riches.
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    That it wasn't viewed favorably upon.
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    But if my memory is correct,
    then what was I witnessing in this
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    interview with Copeland and moreover,
    some of these preachers?
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    So you've got this preacher,
    Kenneth Copeland,
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    who founded the Kenneth Copeland
    Ministries, along with his wife Gloria.
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    They own a $7 million home,
    a fleet of jets,
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    and their Eagle Mountain International
    Church has a membership in the thousands,
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    not to mention their television
    and online broadcasting.
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    Then there's Jesse De Plantis,
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    who sat with Copeland as they both
    justified their purchases of private jets.
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    Then the second one I
    purchased was in January 2004.
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    Benny Him, who claims to be able
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    to perform miracles, who fills up stadiums
    and broadcasts it on networks worldwide.
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    I'll release it.
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    Joel Osteen, a very popular figure,
    especially in Houston, Texas,
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    where his church resides,
    who's authored books that have been
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    on New York Times bestsellers,
    as well as hosting church services
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    with celebrities like
    Kanye West Creflo's Dollar,
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    who has created fundraisers for his
    private jets, whose ministry owns two
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    rolled Royces and expensive
    real estate taboos.
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    God is the gateway to the world of wealth.
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    There's this Instagram page which is
    called Preachers and Sneakers and it's
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    literally just preachers next to the cost
    of the clothing that they are wearing.
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    Something, something just isn't right.
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    I keep asking myself how,
    how is it possible to be this
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    braggadocious about your wealth as
    a preacher and have your followers who not
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    only are okay with it,
    but help to fund it?
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    And that was when I found out
    about the Prosperity Gospel.
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    What we're looking at is a movement
    that has seemingly found its way inside
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    of America's biggest megachurches and
    being taught by its biggest preachers.
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    The Word of Faith movement is its name
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    and its teachings are often referred
    to as the Prosperity Gospel.
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    It's a simple idea.
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    God wants you to be prosperous through
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    your finances, your health,
    your marriage and relationships.
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    In fact, those are things that belong
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    to you through your faith,
    if you are willing to receive it.
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    The Prosperity Gospel often refers
    to its believers as little gods.
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    The idea being that we were made
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    in the image of God and therefore possess
    a level of divinity within us that allows
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    us to bring into existence
    the prosperity that we've been promised.
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    You are Gods, little g.
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    You are gods because you came from God.
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    And your DNA and Jesus DNA are exact.
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    You're exactly like it.
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    Sounds amazing.
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    So how do I earn this prosperity?
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    How do I access this divine
    power that I supposedly have?
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    Well, it starts with your faith.
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    But if you'll stay in faith,
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    there will come a point where
    God will say, enough is enough.
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    It's payback time.
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    Bible says, I know you love the Lord,
    so you qualify for prosperity.
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    Next, you have the act of tithing.
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    The initial concept of tithing was this
    idea that you give one 10th of your wealth
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    in some way, shape or form
    to a religious organization.
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    Most houses of worship are going to rely
    on the donation of their congregation
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    in order to continue their operations,
    especially megachurches.
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    It's kind of like giving to a charity.
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    But Tithing, through the teachings
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    of the Prosperity Gospel, introduces
    a should we call it a plot twist.
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    Tithing lays the foundation
    for financial success and abundance.
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    Tithing is the way for recession
    or depression to bypass you.
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    Here Stephanie from Maryland Rights.
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    I sent in my first Roots offering.
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    Two weeks later I received,
    watch this $2,400.
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    So now it isn't just about
    donating your money to a church.
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    It becomes a case where you're exchanging
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    your money in return
    for actual prosperity.
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    You'll often hear some of these prosperity
    preachers refer to it as sowing your seed.
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    The implication is pretty obvious
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    to anyone who is watching you give us some
    of your money and in return that value
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    will be given back to you
    in some way, shape or form.
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    It's the harvest.
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    I want you to go to the phone
    or online and sow a seed.
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    Now remember, somebody's son is going
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    to be set free from alcohol because
    of your thousand dollars seed.
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    And I'm going to ask you to sow an
    exceptional and uncommon seed of $1,000.
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    Click on that donation
    button to sow $1,144.
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    So God has given you the harvest
    and the harvest of the seeds you sow.
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    You can't expect to harvest if you don't
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    sow seeds spiritual,
    physical or financial.
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    It's surreal and it
    generates a lot of money.
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    On January 12 of 2008,
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    Kenneth Copeland Ministries took
    possession of a Gulf Stream jet which was
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    funded all thanks to the
    donors of his church.
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    In fact, KCM wrote a blog post thanking
    their followers for helping them, quote,
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    harvest the Gulf Stream,
    but our work is not done.
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    To which the blog then proceeds to remind
    their followers that they still need 17
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    million more dollars,
    which will be used for the, quote,
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    sewing towards the construction of a new
    hanger, upgrading the existing runway,
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    and purchasing special Gulf Stream
    maintenance equipment.
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    Or how about Chriflo Dollar's infamous
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    sermon to which he tells his congregation
    to help him fundraise towards a private
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    jet, all to the response of cheers
    and applause from the audience.
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    If I want to believe God for a $65
    million plane, you cannot stop me.
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    You cannot stop me from dreaming.
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    See Copeland and Dollars, please.
    For money.
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    They're not met with criticism
    and backlash from their congregation.
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    It's celebrated and prosperity.
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    Preachers will obviously say that this
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    AIDS in their quest to spread their
    message across to different countries.
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    If I flew commercial, I'd have
    to stop 65% of what I'm doing.
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    Conveniently, that message obviously
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    allows them to make
    even more in donations.
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    But these preachers,
    they don't just live lavish, right?
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    They put it on full display.
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    Do you think Jesus Christ would have
    rolled around in a Rolls Royce?
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    I think he would.
    Let's get a close up of Gloria's ring.
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    Where am I looking?
    Right here.
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    You fly in a private plane?
    Yes, I do.
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    You're staying right now in one
    of the fanciest hotels you ever find.
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    You wear nice, very nice clothing.
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    So money.
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    Money.
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    The wealth of these preachers, they're
    not seen as gross or hypocritical.
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    In fact, they're seen as proof
    that the teachings work.
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    It's seen as them actually
    practicing what they preach.
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    The extravagant lifestyle.
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    That's not a mistake or a flaw.
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    It's a feature of the prosperity Gospel.
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    Many of these preachers will say
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    that the funds that they received
    are used only for ministry purposes.
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    Osteen, for example,
    says that he doesn't receive any salary
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    from his ministry and all the money
    he makes comes from his book sales.
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    Look, in some ways, I don't really care
    if a ministry wants to buy a private jet.
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    It looks optically hypocritical,
    but I'd rather let theologians argue over
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    the contradictions that those actions
    have with actual religious texts.
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    I'm more interested in how the money is
    generated, and it doesn't get more
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    unethical of a promise than it
    does with the prosperity Gospel.
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    If you're accustomed of giving $10,
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    go to 20, go up to 70, 8100,
    raise that amount and watch what God.
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    Will do, because don't you stop.
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    Sowing offerings.
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    Well, they won't let us go to church.
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    Well, email it in their
    text and give or something.
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    You get that tithe in that church,
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    you get that offering in that church,
    and then you go home and you.
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    Do what we're supposed to do.
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    This idea is no different than the Law
    of Attraction and Manifestation circles
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    that claim that you can use your mind
    to manifest any desire that you want.
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    In fact, it's been argued
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    that the prosperity theology does have
    similar roots to the new thought
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    philosophy that became popular
    in America in the 19th century.
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    When I look at Osteen, for example,
    I don't necessarily see a preacher.
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    I see someone who's more akin to a self
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    help motivational speaker
    that uses God as a proxy.
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    I am confident.
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    I am secure.
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    I am talented.
    I am talented.
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    Take a look, for example,
    at Osteen's New York Times bestseller
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    book, Your Best Life Now, which is
    filled with all of these kinds of ideas.
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    So here's a quote from the very
    first chapter enlarging your vision.
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    It's not God's lack of resources or your
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    lack of talent that prevents you
    from prospering your own wrong.
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    Thinking can keep you from God's best.
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    And the book is riddled with these similar
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    messages of becoming what you
    believe and the power of your words.
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    It's a book.
    Like many others in the self help genre,
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    the connection isn't really that hard
    to see, but it's this sowing your seed
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    message in the prosperity theology,
    the idea that you can donate to a church
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    and in return you can, you know, pay off
    your rent, pay off your credit card.
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    That seems particularly stomach churning.
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    And now this is a message that is being
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    exported from America
    to Europe and Africa.
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    So one of Nigeria's wealthiest pastors is
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    this guy called David Oyadepo,
    who is said to be worth $150,000,000.
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    We are not asking you to give
    so the church can be blessed.
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    We're asking you to give
    so you can be blessed.
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    Some fellow said, okay,
    I was worth $150,000,000.
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    That's an insult.
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    $150,000,000, that's an insult.
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    150 million too small.
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    Do they know what they're doing?
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    A big part of me believes that Copeland
    and Dollar, they they truly believe their
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    intentions are good,
    even for hundreds of millions of dollars.
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    I can't imagine someone knowingly,
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    deceive and hurt other people without
    just driving themself insane.
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    In the long run, that type of cognitive
    dissonance just seems too much to bear.
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    But at the end of the day, I'm never
    going to know what their intentions are.
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    You know, I can only ever see what
    the consequences of their actions are.
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    And trust me, you haven't
    seen the worst of it yet.
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    Benny Hin.
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    Hin is probably most well known
    for what he calls his miracle crusades.
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    HYNN claims to be able
    to perform miracles.
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    He'll bring people to the stage with all
    sorts of illnesses,
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    and then with the touch of his hand,
    they will feel God's power running through
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    them as they fall back, and these
    catchers will catch them as they fall.
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    You had Parkinson's for 15 years since.
    Who are you?
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    People in the audience will cheer.
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    There are others who have stood there in
    awe with their hands raised in worship.
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    And Benny Hinn isn't the only
    one that does this right.
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    This is a really common practice
    amongst the prosperity gospel circles.
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    Glory to God.
    You're not bound to this chair.
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    The day will come, you'll walk out of it.
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    In the name of Jesus.
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    What is it that we're really seeing here?
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    Is this an actual miracle?
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    I would know that there were certain
    things that were completely deceptive.
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    Costehen is the nephew of Benny Hin,
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    and he's worked with his family,
    sometimes as a catcher himself.
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    In 2017, Kostihan came forward
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    with a testimony of his time
    spent in Benihan's ministry.
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    The responsibility is to look really good,
    look really blessed, sell the narrative,
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    make all the money,
    and say, look at my life.
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    If you give to this, if you follow it,
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    if you obey it, and if you do what I say,
    god will do it for you too.
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    He described the lifestyle that he
    had whilst working with his family.
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    We lived in a 10,000 square foot mansion
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    guarded by a private gate,
    drove two Mercedes Benz vehicles,
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    vacationed in exotic destinations,
    and shopped at the most expensive stores.
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    Costa Hin really believed in what he was
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    doing, but he only had doubts when he
    started finding contradictions in what he
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    was teaching and what he
    was finding in the Bible.
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    Grace Bruler was eight years old when she
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    was featured on an episode
    of CBC's The Fifth Estate in 2005,
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    an episode that was specifically
    investigating Hens ministry.
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    If you could have a miracle,
    what would you want it to be?
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    They can look.
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    Just walk.
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    Is that what you want, Grace?
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    Just to walk?
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    Just to walk.
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    Grace's mother brings her daughter
    to one of Hinn's miracle crusades.
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    And just as she's about to go
    to the stage, she's intercepted by what
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    are called screeners
    who tell her to step aside.
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    According to that documentary
    and an insider, the job of the screeners
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    is to screen out the people
    that are severely sick and ill.
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    There's the story of Justin Peters,
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    who is an evangelist himself
    and was born with cerebral palsy.
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    During the Fifth Estates investigation
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    into him's ministry, they attempt
    to get Peters to go on stage as well.
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    And just like Grace, he is also
    intercepted by the screeners.
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    Our hidden camera shows Justin being
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    stopped by a screener watch as
    Henryhin whispers something to her.
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    Then Justin is told to step aside.
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    In another documentary from 2001,
    HBO were given full access to Hinsaville.
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    Events and were even allowed to follow
  • 16:10 - 16:13
    several cases of supposed
    miracle healings.
  • 16:13 - 16:14
    These are people that actually managed
  • 16:14 - 16:16
    to get onto the stage
    and claim they'd been healed.
  • 16:16 - 16:20
    In one instance, the crew follows a boy
    called Ash Neil and his parents as they
  • 16:20 - 16:23
    are desperate to have their
    child healed by one of him's.
  • 16:23 - 16:27
    Miracles.
    We expecting america.
  • 16:28 - 16:31
    The Prakash family are recent
    immigrants to America.
  • 16:31 - 16:35
    Ten year old Ash Neil
    is their younger son.
  • 16:35 - 16:40
    Two massive brain tumors have
    reduced him to a vegetative state.
  • 16:40 - 16:46
    We believe in God, we have faith,
    and there's nothing impossible for God.
  • 16:46 - 16:49
    Later in the documentary,
    Ashton's parents actually attend
  • 16:49 - 16:54
    the crusade and they're brought on stage
    to have their child healed by him himself.
  • 16:54 - 16:56
    Hin gets the crowd to raise their hands
  • 16:56 - 17:00
    and then he places his hands
    on Ashley's face and says, expect the.
  • 17:00 - 17:07
    Miracle, dear Jesus,
    the Lord's going to touch you, young boy.
  • 17:07 - 17:10
    Days after the event and Ashnil
    still wasn't healed.
  • 17:10 - 17:12
    It didn't happen.
  • 17:12 - 17:14
    I was not even discouraged.
    I know.
  • 17:14 - 17:16
    It's God's plan.
  • 17:16 - 17:18
    I can stake my life on pasta.
  • 17:18 - 17:20
    Many words.
  • 17:20 - 17:23
    And God spoke to me last night
  • 17:23 - 17:27
    at the Coliseum center where the crusade
    was going on, and he said,
  • 17:27 - 17:31
    donate him another $2,000
    and which I'm going to do it.
  • 17:31 - 17:33
    I'm going to do that.
  • 17:33 - 17:36
    Recently I watched an event
    from Kenneth Copeland's.
  • 17:36 - 17:37
    Eagle Mountain church, right.
  • 17:37 - 17:39
    It's called miracles on a mountain.
  • 17:39 - 17:41
    It's another miracle healing service.
  • 17:41 - 17:45
    And in this instance it was hosted
    by this evangelist called Billy Burke.
  • 17:45 - 17:47
    And at one point someone is brought out
  • 17:47 - 17:52
    from the crowd and I thought,
    hang on, I recognize this guy.
  • 17:52 - 17:54
    It was Big Nick,
  • 17:54 - 17:57
    who for those of you that don't know,
    was an ex member of the popular social
  • 17:57 - 18:01
    media group the Vlog Squad,
    which is headed by David Dobrik.
  • 18:01 - 18:04
    At the event, Nick tells
    Billy Burke about his blind eye.
  • 18:04 - 18:06
    I'm blind in my left eye as well.
  • 18:06 - 18:08
    I know that you told me that.
  • 18:08 - 18:15
    Billy then attempts to cure his eye,
    loosen that after all these theatrics
  • 18:15 - 18:20
    billy then starts to wiggle his
    finger around and then nothing yet.
  • 18:20 - 18:20
    Nothing yet.
  • 18:21 - 18:24
    And Billy hears that and he continues,
    like trying to help him.
  • 18:24 - 18:28
    And then when he realizes it doesn't work,
    he then just tells Nick recite chapters
  • 18:28 - 18:30
    of the Bible every night
    for your eye to be cured.
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    So John, chapter nine, your confession,
    starting tonight and every night.
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    You hear me?
  • 18:34 - 18:37
    Tonight and every night
    before you go to bed.
  • 18:37 - 18:38
    Are you ready?
  • 18:38 - 18:40
    I was blind and now I see.
  • 18:40 - 18:42
    I was blind and now I see.
  • 18:42 - 18:44
    And the crowd Cheerss.
  • 18:44 - 18:45
    It's like the miracle actually happened.
  • 18:45 - 18:47
    Now it's been about seven months since
  • 18:47 - 18:51
    that event took place and I've looked
    through Big Nick's social media account
  • 18:51 - 18:54
    and there's no indication that his
    eye has healed since the event.
  • 18:54 - 19:00
    So again, what are we witnessing
    when we see things like this?
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    If we are to believe that these people
    aren't just actors,
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    which I really don't think that they
    are what is actually happening.
  • 19:09 - 19:12
    Consider this if what we're seeing is
  • 19:12 - 19:17
    really a miracle, why don't these people
    go to hospitals and heal people there?
  • 19:17 - 19:19
    Why do they need the lights
  • 19:19 - 19:22
    and the cameras and the atmosphere and the
    theatrics to be able to do what they do?
  • 19:22 - 19:27
    In 2011, Darren Brown ran this TV special
    program called Miracles for sale.
  • 19:27 - 19:29
    In this special program, Darren Brown,
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    who is this self described mentalist
    and illusionist,
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    takes this ordinary individual called
    Nathan and attempts to turn him
  • 19:36 - 19:39
    into a faith healer, performing
    miracles in front of an audience.
  • 19:39 - 19:42
    The idea behind the program was to expose
  • 19:42 - 19:45
    the fact that what is happening here are
    not miracles, that it's just a product
  • 19:45 - 19:48
    of psychology, the power
    of suggestion and misdirection.
  • 19:48 - 19:52
    Now, some aspects of faith
    healing are just pure trickery.
  • 19:52 - 19:55
    A good example of this is
    the infamous leg growing trick.
  • 19:55 - 19:59
    The preacher Todd White is well known
    for walking around the streets and finding
  • 19:59 - 20:03
    individuals who supposedly have one
    leg that is shorter than the other.
  • 20:03 - 20:04
    And then, miraculously,
  • 20:04 - 20:08
    White will begin to grow out that person's
    leg right before our very eyes.
  • 20:08 - 20:08
    Thank you.
  • 20:08 - 20:13
    In Jesus name,
    left leg, I command you, grow right now.
  • 20:13 - 20:15
    In Jesus name.
  • 20:15 - 20:20
    Darren Brown teaches Nathan to do this
    exact trick because it's not a miracle.
  • 20:20 - 20:24
    The leg growing trick is infamously
    used by charlatans throughout history.
  • 20:24 - 20:26
    In fact, a quick Google or YouTube search
  • 20:26 - 20:29
    will demonstrate how it can be done
    in several ways, one of which involves
  • 20:29 - 20:34
    shifting the other person's shoes to make
    it seem as though a leg is being grown.
  • 20:34 - 20:38
    If you speed up the Todd White clip of him
    performing this miracle and you just play
  • 20:38 - 20:43
    it back and forth, you can literally
    see what Todd White is doing.
  • 20:44 - 20:47
    But a big part of faith healing
    isn't just tricks like this.
  • 20:47 - 20:51
    In fact, a lot of it is rooted
    in a deeper part of who we are as people.
  • 20:51 - 20:53
    By the end of Darren Brown's special,
  • 20:53 - 20:57
    nathan is able to perform in front
    of a small audience of believers.
  • 20:57 - 21:00
    And you can see that he, too, is able to,
    with just the touch of his hand,
  • 21:00 - 21:04
    bring people to fall back as though
    they were touched by God themselves.
  • 21:04 - 21:08
    To understand how Nathan,
    who is an ordinary guy, versus Benny Hinn,
  • 21:08 - 21:11
    who claims to be able to perform miracles,
    can do what they're doing,
  • 21:11 - 21:15
    you have to understand the power behind
    what they're creating in their shows.
  • 21:15 - 21:17
    From the very moment it begins,
  • 21:17 - 21:22
    you're joined by a crowd of people
    united by a particular cause or belief.
  • 21:22 - 21:23
    There are those in the crowd who are
  • 21:23 - 21:27
    already in pain, who feel as though
    something is missing in their lives.
  • 21:27 - 21:31
    When they are brought together, there is a
    sense of oneness of wholeness and unity.
  • 21:31 - 21:36
    Just think about how powerful crowds can
    be and what it's like to be in one,
  • 21:36 - 21:39
    especially when you're all
    joined by a united cause.
  • 21:39 - 21:41
    You're then brought into this hypnotic or
  • 21:41 - 21:45
    more specifically,
    a suggestible and open state.
  • 21:45 - 21:48
    He wants to heal you because he loves you.
  • 21:48 - 21:53
    You don't have to pay for it,
    just ask for it.
  • 21:53 - 21:56
    The music rises and falls stirring a wave
  • 21:57 - 21:59
    of experiences and emotions
    amongst the crowd.
  • 21:59 - 22:03
    Then you begin to create the expectancy
    for what is about to come.
  • 22:03 - 22:08
    All things are possible
    to him that believe it.
  • 22:08 - 22:11
    You keep the crowd in this heightened,
    aroused state of mind.
  • 22:11 - 22:13
    And as the crowd is ripened
  • 22:13 - 22:17
    for suggestibility the faith healer acts
    almost like a conductor for the orchestra
  • 22:17 - 22:19
    of experiences that people
    are going through.
  • 22:19 - 22:24
    A leader amongst a crowd of people
    in a hypnotic trancelike state is
  • 22:24 - 22:27
    something that you cannot underestimate
    the psychological effect of.
  • 22:27 - 22:29
    Then the healer begins
    preaching their message.
  • 22:29 - 22:32
    But don't look for the healing.
  • 22:32 - 22:34
    Look for the healer whatsoever.
  • 22:34 - 22:39
    You shall ask what will I do?
  • 22:39 - 22:41
    The crowd is full of ecstasy.
  • 22:41 - 22:45
    The joy in the audience the deep feeling
    as though you're becoming a new person.
  • 22:45 - 22:48
    You're connecting with that
    of which is above you.
  • 22:48 - 22:50
    You expect that when the preacher lays
  • 22:50 - 22:54
    their hand on you or shouts beggar
    you may feel God's touch with it.
  • 22:55 - 22:58
    You've been suggested and primed
    to believe that that is the case.
  • 22:58 - 23:02
    And in being so connected to the crowd
    around you the effects of social
  • 23:02 - 23:06
    conformity are bound to take
    place in this trance like state.
  • 23:06 - 23:08
    You go along with what
    the preacher's suggestions are.
  • 23:08 - 23:10
    You do what you are expected to do.
  • 23:10 - 23:13
    It's no different to what
    a stage hypnotist does.
  • 23:13 - 23:17
    The more suggestible you are, the more
    belief you have, the easier it becomes.
  • 23:17 - 23:19
    And what's even more interesting is
  • 23:19 - 23:24
    that in this heightened state of emotions,
    of euphoria, of adrenaline it's very
  • 23:24 - 23:27
    possible to feel symptoms
    being alleviated.
  • 23:27 - 23:29
    It's possible, even for someone who is
  • 23:29 - 23:33
    in a wheelchair to momentarily be
    able to get up and walk around.
  • 23:33 - 23:39
    But what we are really witnessing
    is just a moment of mind over body.
  • 23:39 - 23:42
    The placebo effect is
    a well known phenomenon.
  • 23:42 - 23:44
    It's when a patient's condition changes
  • 23:44 - 23:48
    after receiving a treatment that by no
    means should have changed their condition.
  • 23:48 - 23:52
    For example, if a patient expects a pill
    to do something and is told by their
  • 23:52 - 23:56
    doctor that it'll help them even if
    that pill is just a sugar pill
  • 23:56 - 24:00
    that doesn't do anything it is possible
    for your own brain chemistry to cause
  • 24:00 - 24:03
    effects similar to what
    medication might have caused.
  • 24:03 - 24:06
    The key word here is expect because
  • 24:06 - 24:11
    a placebo effect is mostly theorized to be
    caused by our expectations around a given
  • 24:11 - 24:15
    treatment expectations that we
    derive from culture and society.
  • 24:15 - 24:17
    That's why a placebo that is given as
  • 24:17 - 24:20
    an injection rather than
    a pill can be more effective.
  • 24:20 - 24:22
    Or when you're given two placebo pills
  • 24:22 - 24:26
    to take every day rather than one it can
    also be more effective because culturally
  • 24:26 - 24:30
    we perceive the latter of these
    treatments to have a bigger effect on us.
  • 24:30 - 24:33
    That belief and expectancy can be so
  • 24:33 - 24:36
    powerful as to have physiological
    effects on our body.
  • 24:36 - 24:39
    And what more powerful expectation can
  • 24:39 - 24:43
    somebody have than one that invokes their
    very own belief in a higher spiritual
  • 24:43 - 24:47
    being like God, surrounded by others
    who share that very belief?
  • 24:47 - 24:49
    What we are seeing is a placebo.
  • 24:49 - 24:53
    This is why you'll never see any miracle
    healer or somebody that believes
  • 24:53 - 24:57
    in the law of attraction, be able to do
    anything that is beyond a placebo.
  • 24:57 - 25:00
    It's why you'll never see them be able
    to restore the limb of an amputee.
  • 25:00 - 25:03
    And as I've watched your healing crusades,
  • 25:03 - 25:07
    am I seeing anything
    that goes beyond placebo?
  • 25:07 - 25:10
    I've wondered why sometimes someone comes
  • 25:10 - 25:17
    in and comes out of a wheelchair,
    walks around, runs around,
  • 25:17 - 25:21
    and hours later, they're back
    in that wheelchair again.
  • 25:21 - 25:24
    The problem is, however,
    that those who attend the event
  • 25:24 - 25:28
    and whose problems and illnesses are not
    healed at the event or return after
  • 25:28 - 25:33
    the event start to blame themselves
    that for some reason God didn't want
  • 25:33 - 25:35
    to heal them, that they
    didn't have enough faith.
  • 25:35 - 25:37
    Remember Ash Neal from the HBO documentary
  • 25:37 - 25:40
    seven weeks after attending
    Hynn's Miracle Crusade?
  • 25:40 - 25:42
    Expect the miracle.
  • 25:42 - 25:43
    He passed away.
  • 25:43 - 25:47
    Do you feel in any way
    that any hin has let you down?
  • 25:47 - 25:49
    No.
  • 25:50 - 25:54
    Did you ever, in some of your worst
    moments, think that you must have done
  • 25:54 - 25:57
    something wrong in the eyes
    of God to deserve this?
  • 25:57 - 25:58
    Yes.
  • 25:58 - 26:02
    I know there's a generational curse.
  • 26:02 - 26:04
    Maybe it originated from me or
  • 26:04 - 26:09
    from my parents, because that curse
    lasts for three or four generations.
  • 26:09 - 26:11
    Who taught you that?
  • 26:11 - 26:12
    I hate it.
  • 26:12 - 26:14
    From Pasadena.
  • 26:14 - 26:16
    It doesn't square with the Bible at all.
  • 26:16 - 26:17
    It's a complete scam.
  • 26:17 - 26:19
    It's utter deception.
  • 26:19 - 26:21
    Increase your faith,
  • 26:21 - 26:29
    increase your seed,
    and store up for the future
  • 26:29 - 26:36
    so that when these tragedies hit on earth,
    you would be spared.
  • 26:36 - 26:40
    It is a deception to a degree that I
    don't think I've seen before.
  • 26:41 - 26:43
    And you have to sit there and look at this
  • 26:43 - 26:46
    all and wonder, surely there's
    justice to this story.
  • 26:46 - 26:48
    Right?
    Surely somebody takes the fool.
  • 26:48 - 26:50
    Surely there's a happy ending to it.
  • 26:50 - 26:52
    Surely.
  • 26:54 - 27:00
    In September of 2019, benny Hin comes out
    with quite the astonishing announcement.
  • 27:00 - 27:05
    And I'm sorry to say
    that prosperity has gone a little crazy.
  • 27:05 - 27:07
    I think it's an offense to the Lord.
  • 27:07 - 27:10
    It's an offense to say, give a think.
  • 27:10 - 27:16
    It's offense to the Holy Spirit
    to place a price on the gospel.
  • 27:16 - 27:18
    I'm done with it.
  • 27:18 - 27:24
    Many whom had decided to leave
    the prosperity gospel hallelujah.
  • 27:24 - 27:27
    Right?
    One of the best lessons that I could give
  • 27:27 - 27:30
    to people is say,
    watch what they go back to.
  • 27:30 - 27:33
    Watch what they give up
    and watch what they go back to.
  • 27:33 - 27:37
    Okay?
    So it's time to give to the Lord's work.
  • 27:37 - 27:44
    It's time to succeed in the Lord's work
    so God can bless you and reward you.
  • 27:44 - 27:47
    Trust me.
    It's time to give to the Lord's work.
  • 27:47 - 27:52
    Because giving guarantees
    our financial protection.
  • 27:52 - 27:56
    The problem is, once you've generated
    the type of following and business
  • 27:56 - 28:01
    and reputation that hin has,
    changing your ways becomes almost
  • 28:01 - 28:05
    impossible, and more so because I
    genuinely believe that most of these
  • 28:05 - 28:08
    prosperity preachers,
    they're not intentionally malicious,
  • 28:08 - 28:11
    they've deceived themselves,
    even till today.
  • 28:11 - 28:15
    I question,
    is this God or is this just me?
  • 28:15 - 28:17
    The reality is that most of the preachers
  • 28:17 - 28:21
    that we've mentioned in this video are
    continuing their operations today.
  • 28:21 - 28:23
    And when they pass,
    there's going to be a wave of new
  • 28:23 - 28:25
    prosperity preachers ready
    to take their place.
  • 28:25 - 28:28
    The message is an easy one to spread.
  • 28:28 - 28:31
    It promises you health,
    wealth, and happiness.
  • 28:31 - 28:32
    It makes you feel good.
  • 28:32 - 28:34
    And what's not to love about that, right?
  • 28:34 - 28:36
    Look at the comment section below.
  • 28:36 - 28:39
    And you're probably not going to be hard
    pressed to find someone defending him or
  • 28:39 - 28:42
    Copeland or
    the Prosperity Theology overall.
  • 28:42 - 28:46
    You'll probably find people claiming
    that they have seen miracles happen or
  • 28:46 - 28:49
    that by sowing their seed prosperity
    really was given to them.
  • 28:49 - 28:51
    And I'm not delivering
    any new message here.
  • 28:51 - 28:54
    Prosperity Theology receives a lot
  • 28:54 - 28:57
    of criticism inside of Christianity
    and outside, and you.
  • 28:57 - 28:59
    Know you're a piece of shit, right?
    You know?
  • 28:59 - 29:01
    Right.
  • 29:01 - 29:02
    They'll still get away with their
  • 29:03 - 29:06
    teachings because their message
    isn't for people who are cynical.
  • 29:06 - 29:09
    It's really difficult to stop
    their more deceptive actions.
  • 29:09 - 29:13
    The only thing you can do is go to those
    that believe in it and steer them away.
  • 29:13 - 29:16
    And until that happens,
    the booming business
  • 29:16 - 29:22
    of Prosperity Theology and faith
    healing will continue to flourish.
  • 29:24 - 29:27
    I don't know what you feel about
  • 29:27 - 29:32
    the Prosperity Gospel,
    the Health, wealth and Prosperity Gospel,
  • 29:32 - 29:37
    but I'll tell you what
    I feel about it hatred.
  • 29:37 - 29:42
    It is not the gospel,
    and it's being exported from this country
  • 29:42 - 29:49
    to Africa and Asia, selling a bill
    of goods to the poorest, of the poor.
  • 29:49 - 29:55
    Believe this message your pigs won't die,
    your wife won't have miscarriages.
  • 29:55 - 30:02
    You have rings on your fingers and coats
    on your back that's coming out of America.
  • 30:02 - 30:04
    The people don't ought to be
    giving our money and our time.
  • 30:05 - 30:07
    John Piper is just one of the many
  • 30:07 - 30:11
    preachers and ministries that actively
    try and combat the Prosperity Gospel.
  • 30:11 - 30:13
    And although Texas is home to some
  • 30:14 - 30:17
    of the biggest megachurches,
    it's also home to the Trinity Foundation,
  • 30:17 - 30:21
    a leading watchdog ministry founded
    by Oli Anthony that carries out
  • 30:21 - 30:25
    investigations into some of the conducts
    of the biggest televangelists.
  • 30:25 - 30:28
    It was Oli Anthony,
    founder of the East Dallas homeless
  • 30:29 - 30:33
    Ministry, Trinity Foundation,
    who masterminded the investigation
  • 30:33 - 30:37
    and helped expose some of the top
    televangelists in the country.
  • 30:37 - 30:41
    You know, faith and religion
    are powerful things.
  • 30:41 - 30:46
    Seeing the sense of hope that it can fill
    a person with or the community
  • 30:46 - 30:49
    and the purpose that it can inspire
    towards good causes,
  • 30:49 - 30:53
    I don't think anyone can look at those
    things on their own and say they're bad.
  • 30:53 - 30:54
    A few months ago,
  • 30:54 - 30:57
    I had burnt out from working,
    and when that happened,
  • 30:57 - 31:00
    I felt very cynical about
    everything that I was doing.
  • 31:00 - 31:02
    What was the point?
  • 31:02 - 31:04
    And what helped was having a sense of hope
  • 31:04 - 31:08
    that those feelings would come to pass
    and finding purpose in what I was doing
  • 31:08 - 31:14
    and spending time with my friends
    and family, hope, purpose and community.
  • 31:14 - 31:18
    But hope, purpose and community
    can be exploited.
  • 31:18 - 31:20
    It can cloud your better judgment just
  • 31:20 - 31:23
    because somebody dresses
    the part or sounds the part.
  • 31:23 - 31:24
    And invokes the word God.
  • 31:24 - 31:28
    If you're somebody watching this that is
    a believer in the prosperity gospel,
  • 31:29 - 31:33
    I invite you to think over and really
    question, could I be wrong?
  • 31:33 - 31:35
    A healthy skepticism, I think,
  • 31:35 - 31:40
    only motivates someone to find the truth,
    not drift further away from it.
  • 31:40 - 31:44
    Seek, and perhaps you will find it.
  • 31:44 - 31:48
    If you think the world of prosperity
    preachers and megachurches is crazy, then,
  • 31:49 - 31:52
    my friends, you have to check out
    my documentary on New Age gurus.
  • 31:52 - 31:54
    It should be shown
    somewhere on the screen.
  • 31:54 - 31:58
    That is arguably where all of this
    kind of began to form and originate.
  • 31:58 - 32:00
    And it is just a whole other
    rabbit hole in and of itself.
  • 32:00 - 32:03
    But either way, my friends,
    it is great to be back.
  • 32:03 - 32:05
    As always.
    Hand to herd.
  • 32:05 - 32:05
    Salute.
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