[Script Info] Title: [Events] Format: Layer, Start, End, Style, Name, MarginL, MarginR, MarginV, Effect, Text Dialogue: 0,0:00:00.48,0:00:02.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was raised as a Catholic, Dialogue: 0,0:00:02.69,0:00:05.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I wouldn't really describe\Nmyself as religious today. Dialogue: 0,0:00:05.77,0:00:07.69,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had never heard of things like Dialogue: 0,0:00:07.72,0:00:12.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,megachurches or televangelism\Nor the prosperity gospel. Dialogue: 0,0:00:12.61,0:00:16.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That was until I stumbled\Nacross an infamous interview. Dialogue: 0,0:00:16.49,0:00:17.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How are you, sir? Dialogue: 0,0:00:17.37,0:00:21.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We'd just like to ask you about why\Nyou don't want to fly commercial. Dialogue: 0,0:00:21.16,0:00:22.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You've got this journalist that is Dialogue: 0,0:00:22.81,0:00:25.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,confronting this guy\Ncalled Kenneth Copeland. Dialogue: 0,0:00:25.16,0:00:26.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You said that you don't like to fly Dialogue: 0,0:00:26.64,0:00:30.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,commercial because you don't want to get\Ninto a tube with a bunch of demons. Dialogue: 0,0:00:30.37,0:00:33.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do you really believe\Nthat human beings are demons? Dialogue: 0,0:00:33.17,0:00:34.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No, I do not. Dialogue: 0,0:00:34.13,0:00:38.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And don't you ever say I did get\Nin a long tube with a bunch of demons. Dialogue: 0,0:00:38.81,0:00:44.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We wrestle not with flesh and blood,\Nbut principalities and powers. Dialogue: 0,0:00:44.77,0:00:49.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Copeland is being confronted about\Nhis purchase of a Gulf Stream jet. Dialogue: 0,0:00:49.09,0:00:53.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it turns out that that jet is just one\Nof a fleet of jets that he owns, Dialogue: 0,0:00:53.85,0:00:58.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,along with a boat house,\Na mansion and his very own airport. Dialogue: 0,0:00:58.09,0:01:00.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is a preacher that is supposedly Dialogue: 0,0:01:00.77,0:01:04.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,worth hundreds of millions of dollars\Nwith an enormous following. Dialogue: 0,0:01:04.44,0:01:08.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you're telling me\Nthat he is just one of many? Dialogue: 0,0:01:08.80,0:01:11.41,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This entire thing is a rabbit hole. Dialogue: 0,0:01:11.44,0:01:13.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Pastor, what is now\Nthe largest church in America. Dialogue: 0,0:01:13.64,0:01:16.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A weekly sermon watched by more than\N10 million viewers on television. Dialogue: 0,0:01:17.00,0:01:18.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The apostles were businessmen. Dialogue: 0,0:01:18.52,0:01:20.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They were reaching\Nin and had plenty of money. Dialogue: 0,0:01:20.20,0:01:21.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm going to show you\Nthat Jesus was a welcome man. Dialogue: 0,0:01:21.92,0:01:24.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Had put any money one of my chandeliers\Ncosts more than most people's house. Dialogue: 0,0:01:24.56,0:01:26.21,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I got 22 chandeliers in the house. Dialogue: 0,0:01:26.24,0:01:27.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're extremely green. Dialogue: 0,0:01:27.36,0:01:28.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They don't need mansions. Dialogue: 0,0:01:28.57,0:01:29.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They don't need jets. Dialogue: 0,0:01:29.69,0:01:34.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,God told me to have that thing. Dialogue: 0,0:01:34.05,0:01:36.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Any religious leader who speaks the word Dialogue: 0,0:01:36.71,0:01:42.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of God, who has more than one suit while\Nsomeone has no clothes, is a cop out. Dialogue: 0,0:01:42.60,0:01:44.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yeah, you know, Larry, I just don't.\NSee it that way. Dialogue: 0,0:01:44.93,0:01:46.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For $54 million, I want you to. Dialogue: 0,0:01:46.93,0:01:50.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Imagine how many people could be fed. Dialogue: 0,0:01:50.77,0:01:55.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How many homeless could\Nhave places to sleep. Dialogue: 0,0:01:56.12,0:01:58.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Fresh, fresh, fresh. Dialogue: 0,0:01:58.73,0:02:02.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Fresh, fresh, fresh. Dialogue: 0,0:02:02.72,0:02:05.49,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Televangelism is still\Nthriving in this place. Dialogue: 0,0:02:05.52,0:02:11.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you were willing to pay the price,\Nyou could talk directly to God. Dialogue: 0,0:02:14.00,0:02:15.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When I remember my own personal Dialogue: 0,0:02:15.81,0:02:22.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,experiences inside of a church, what\Ncomes to mind was definitely not this. Dialogue: 0,0:02:26.12,0:02:27.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Times is like a concert. Dialogue: 0,0:02:27.80,0:02:29.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And when the preachers come to preach, Dialogue: 0,0:02:29.41,0:02:32.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it's like a celebrity has\Njust taken to the stage. Dialogue: 0,0:02:32.29,0:02:35.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Everyone is worshiping together.\NThey're smiling. Dialogue: 0,0:02:35.13,0:02:37.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're joined in their\Nfaith and devotion. Dialogue: 0,0:02:37.61,0:02:40.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What we're witnessing is\Nsomething called a megachurch. Dialogue: 0,0:02:40.97,0:02:45.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,By definition, a megachurch is just\Na church that has a larger than average Dialogue: 0,0:02:45.45,0:02:48.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,congregation, normally\Nof 2000 members or above. Dialogue: 0,0:02:48.37,0:02:52.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But when we think of spirituality or forms\Nof it, there's normally a distinction Dialogue: 0,0:02:52.61,0:02:56.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,between spiritual duty\Nand materialistic desires. Dialogue: 0,0:02:56.13,0:02:57.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, I'm not a theologian, Dialogue: 0,0:02:57.76,0:03:01.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and I'm not going to pretend to be one,\Nbut even I remember verses from the Bible Dialogue: 0,0:03:01.77,0:03:04.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,when it came to wealth\Nand building riches. Dialogue: 0,0:03:04.41,0:03:06.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That it wasn't viewed favorably upon. Dialogue: 0,0:03:07.01,0:03:11.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But if my memory is correct,\Nthen what was I witnessing in this Dialogue: 0,0:03:11.57,0:03:15.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,interview with Copeland and moreover,\Nsome of these preachers? Dialogue: 0,0:03:15.05,0:03:17.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So you've got this preacher,\NKenneth Copeland, Dialogue: 0,0:03:17.32,0:03:20.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who founded the Kenneth Copeland\NMinistries, along with his wife Gloria. Dialogue: 0,0:03:20.77,0:03:23.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They own a $7 million home,\Na fleet of jets, Dialogue: 0,0:03:23.64,0:03:27.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and their Eagle Mountain International\NChurch has a membership in the thousands, Dialogue: 0,0:03:27.64,0:03:30.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,not to mention their television\Nand online broadcasting. Dialogue: 0,0:03:30.45,0:03:32.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then there's Jesse De Plantis, Dialogue: 0,0:03:32.05,0:03:36.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who sat with Copeland as they both\Njustified their purchases of private jets. Dialogue: 0,0:03:36.41,0:03:40.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then the second one I\Npurchased was in January 2004. Dialogue: 0,0:03:40.93,0:03:42.72,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Benny Him, who claims to be able Dialogue: 0,0:03:42.75,0:03:47.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to perform miracles, who fills up stadiums\Nand broadcasts it on networks worldwide. Dialogue: 0,0:03:47.25,0:03:48.61,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'll release it. Dialogue: 0,0:03:48.64,0:03:52.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Joel Osteen, a very popular figure,\Nespecially in Houston, Texas, Dialogue: 0,0:03:52.28,0:03:54.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,where his church resides,\Nwho's authored books that have been Dialogue: 0,0:03:54.93,0:03:58.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,on New York Times bestsellers,\Nas well as hosting church services Dialogue: 0,0:03:58.29,0:04:01.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with celebrities like\NKanye West Creflo's Dollar, Dialogue: 0,0:04:01.25,0:04:05.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who has created fundraisers for his\Nprivate jets, whose ministry owns two Dialogue: 0,0:04:05.27,0:04:08.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,rolled Royces and expensive\Nreal estate taboos. Dialogue: 0,0:04:08.21,0:04:11.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,God is the gateway to the world of wealth. Dialogue: 0,0:04:11.96,0:04:15.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's this Instagram page which is\Ncalled Preachers and Sneakers and it's Dialogue: 0,0:04:15.15,0:04:19.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,literally just preachers next to the cost\Nof the clothing that they are wearing. Dialogue: 0,0:04:19.13,0:04:21.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Something, something just isn't right. Dialogue: 0,0:04:21.72,0:04:25.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I keep asking myself how,\Nhow is it possible to be this Dialogue: 0,0:04:25.60,0:04:29.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,braggadocious about your wealth as\Na preacher and have your followers who not Dialogue: 0,0:04:29.77,0:04:33.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,only are okay with it,\Nbut help to fund it? Dialogue: 0,0:04:33.36,0:04:38.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And that was when I found out\Nabout the Prosperity Gospel. Dialogue: 0,0:04:38.09,0:04:42.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What we're looking at is a movement\Nthat has seemingly found its way inside Dialogue: 0,0:04:42.41,0:04:47.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of America's biggest megachurches and\Nbeing taught by its biggest preachers. Dialogue: 0,0:04:47.09,0:04:49.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Word of Faith movement is its name Dialogue: 0,0:04:49.53,0:04:53.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and its teachings are often referred\Nto as the Prosperity Gospel. Dialogue: 0,0:04:53.53,0:04:54.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a simple idea. Dialogue: 0,0:04:54.89,0:04:57.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,God wants you to be prosperous through Dialogue: 0,0:04:57.25,0:05:01.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your finances, your health,\Nyour marriage and relationships. Dialogue: 0,0:05:01.09,0:05:03.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In fact, those are things that belong Dialogue: 0,0:05:03.27,0:05:06.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to you through your faith,\Nif you are willing to receive it. Dialogue: 0,0:05:06.69,0:05:10.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Prosperity Gospel often refers\Nto its believers as little gods. Dialogue: 0,0:05:10.89,0:05:12.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The idea being that we were made Dialogue: 0,0:05:12.60,0:05:16.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the image of God and therefore possess\Na level of divinity within us that allows Dialogue: 0,0:05:16.91,0:05:20.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,us to bring into existence\Nthe prosperity that we've been promised. Dialogue: 0,0:05:20.28,0:05:22.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You are Gods, little g. Dialogue: 0,0:05:22.92,0:05:25.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You are gods because you came from God. Dialogue: 0,0:05:25.92,0:05:29.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And your DNA and Jesus DNA are exact. Dialogue: 0,0:05:29.57,0:05:31.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You're exactly like it. Dialogue: 0,0:05:31.69,0:05:34.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sounds amazing. Dialogue: 0,0:05:34.09,0:05:36.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So how do I earn this prosperity? Dialogue: 0,0:05:36.89,0:05:40.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,How do I access this divine\Npower that I supposedly have? Dialogue: 0,0:05:40.92,0:05:43.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, it starts with your faith. Dialogue: 0,0:05:43.60,0:05:45.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But if you'll stay in faith, Dialogue: 0,0:05:45.60,0:05:50.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,there will come a point where\NGod will say, enough is enough. Dialogue: 0,0:05:50.13,0:05:51.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's payback time. Dialogue: 0,0:05:51.36,0:05:57.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Bible says, I know you love the Lord,\Nso you qualify for prosperity. Dialogue: 0,0:05:57.53,0:05:59.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Next, you have the act of tithing. Dialogue: 0,0:05:59.89,0:06:04.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The initial concept of tithing was this\Nidea that you give one 10th of your wealth Dialogue: 0,0:06:04.29,0:06:07.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in some way, shape or form\Nto a religious organization. Dialogue: 0,0:06:07.92,0:06:11.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Most houses of worship are going to rely\Non the donation of their congregation Dialogue: 0,0:06:11.97,0:06:15.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in order to continue their operations,\Nespecially megachurches. Dialogue: 0,0:06:15.28,0:06:17.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's kind of like giving to a charity. Dialogue: 0,0:06:17.17,0:06:18.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But Tithing, through the teachings Dialogue: 0,0:06:18.97,0:06:24.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the Prosperity Gospel, introduces\Na should we call it a plot twist. Dialogue: 0,0:06:24.60,0:06:29.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tithing lays the foundation\Nfor financial success and abundance. Dialogue: 0,0:06:29.80,0:06:35.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tithing is the way for recession\Nor depression to bypass you. Dialogue: 0,0:06:35.33,0:06:37.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Here Stephanie from Maryland Rights. Dialogue: 0,0:06:37.48,0:06:39.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I sent in my first Roots offering. Dialogue: 0,0:06:39.65,0:06:44.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Two weeks later I received,\Nwatch this $2,400. Dialogue: 0,0:06:44.80,0:06:48.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So now it isn't just about\Ndonating your money to a church. Dialogue: 0,0:06:48.84,0:06:50.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It becomes a case where you're exchanging Dialogue: 0,0:06:50.65,0:06:53.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,your money in return\Nfor actual prosperity. Dialogue: 0,0:06:53.45,0:06:58.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You'll often hear some of these prosperity\Npreachers refer to it as sowing your seed. Dialogue: 0,0:06:58.29,0:07:00.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The implication is pretty obvious Dialogue: 0,0:07:00.33,0:07:04.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to anyone who is watching you give us some\Nof your money and in return that value Dialogue: 0,0:07:04.73,0:07:07.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,will be given back to you\Nin some way, shape or form. Dialogue: 0,0:07:07.73,0:07:08.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's the harvest. Dialogue: 0,0:07:09.01,0:07:14.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I want you to go to the phone\Nor online and sow a seed. Dialogue: 0,0:07:14.25,0:07:16.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now remember, somebody's son is going Dialogue: 0,0:07:16.85,0:07:20.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to be set free from alcohol because\Nof your thousand dollars seed. Dialogue: 0,0:07:20.33,0:07:25.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I'm going to ask you to sow an\Nexceptional and uncommon seed of $1,000. Dialogue: 0,0:07:25.33,0:07:29.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Click on that donation\Nbutton to sow $1,144. Dialogue: 0,0:07:29.77,0:07:33.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So God has given you the harvest\Nand the harvest of the seeds you sow. Dialogue: 0,0:07:33.40,0:07:34.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You can't expect to harvest if you don't Dialogue: 0,0:07:34.97,0:07:38.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sow seeds spiritual,\Nphysical or financial. Dialogue: 0,0:07:38.89,0:07:44.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's surreal and it\Ngenerates a lot of money. Dialogue: 0,0:07:44.45,0:07:46.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,On January 12 of 2008, Dialogue: 0,0:07:46.89,0:07:51.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Kenneth Copeland Ministries took\Npossession of a Gulf Stream jet which was Dialogue: 0,0:07:51.04,0:07:53.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,funded all thanks to the\Ndonors of his church. Dialogue: 0,0:07:53.69,0:07:58.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In fact, KCM wrote a blog post thanking\Ntheir followers for helping them, quote, Dialogue: 0,0:07:59.01,0:08:02.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,harvest the Gulf Stream,\Nbut our work is not done. Dialogue: 0,0:08:02.85,0:08:07.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To which the blog then proceeds to remind\Ntheir followers that they still need 17 Dialogue: 0,0:08:07.04,0:08:09.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,million more dollars,\Nwhich will be used for the, quote, Dialogue: 0,0:08:09.69,0:08:14.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sewing towards the construction of a new\Nhanger, upgrading the existing runway, Dialogue: 0,0:08:14.09,0:08:17.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and purchasing special Gulf Stream\Nmaintenance equipment. Dialogue: 0,0:08:17.41,0:08:19.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or how about Chriflo Dollar's infamous Dialogue: 0,0:08:19.48,0:08:23.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,sermon to which he tells his congregation\Nto help him fundraise towards a private Dialogue: 0,0:08:23.92,0:08:27.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,jet, all to the response of cheers\Nand applause from the audience. Dialogue: 0,0:08:27.36,0:08:33.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If I want to believe God for a $65\Nmillion plane, you cannot stop me. Dialogue: 0,0:08:33.17,0:08:35.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You cannot stop me from dreaming. Dialogue: 0,0:08:35.53,0:08:37.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,See Copeland and Dollars, please.\NFor money. Dialogue: 0,0:08:38.01,0:08:41.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They're not met with criticism\Nand backlash from their congregation. Dialogue: 0,0:08:41.61,0:08:43.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's celebrated and prosperity. Dialogue: 0,0:08:43.60,0:08:45.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Preachers will obviously say that this Dialogue: 0,0:08:45.44,0:08:49.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,AIDS in their quest to spread their\Nmessage across to different countries. Dialogue: 0,0:08:49.25,0:08:53.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If I flew commercial, I'd have\Nto stop 65% of what I'm doing. Dialogue: 0,0:08:53.84,0:08:55.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Conveniently, that message obviously Dialogue: 0,0:08:55.52,0:08:57.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,allows them to make\Neven more in donations. Dialogue: 0,0:08:57.56,0:09:01.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But these preachers,\Nthey don't just live lavish, right? Dialogue: 0,0:09:01.17,0:09:02.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They put it on full display. Dialogue: 0,0:09:02.60,0:09:05.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do you think Jesus Christ would have\Nrolled around in a Rolls Royce? Dialogue: 0,0:09:05.44,0:09:08.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think he would.\NLet's get a close up of Gloria's ring. Dialogue: 0,0:09:08.60,0:09:09.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Where am I looking?\NRight here. Dialogue: 0,0:09:09.93,0:09:11.84,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You fly in a private plane?\NYes, I do. Dialogue: 0,0:09:11.84,0:09:14.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You're staying right now in one\Nof the fanciest hotels you ever find. Dialogue: 0,0:09:14.61,0:09:17.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You wear nice, very nice clothing. Dialogue: 0,0:09:17.08,0:09:18.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So money. Dialogue: 0,0:09:18.77,0:09:20.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Money. Dialogue: 0,0:09:24.80,0:09:29.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The wealth of these preachers, they're\Nnot seen as gross or hypocritical. Dialogue: 0,0:09:29.41,0:09:32.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In fact, they're seen as proof\Nthat the teachings work. Dialogue: 0,0:09:32.77,0:09:35.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's seen as them actually\Npracticing what they preach. Dialogue: 0,0:09:36.01,0:09:37.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The extravagant lifestyle. Dialogue: 0,0:09:37.61,0:09:39.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's not a mistake or a flaw. Dialogue: 0,0:09:39.81,0:09:42.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a feature of the prosperity Gospel. Dialogue: 0,0:09:42.24,0:09:43.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Many of these preachers will say Dialogue: 0,0:09:43.69,0:09:47.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the funds that they received\Nare used only for ministry purposes. Dialogue: 0,0:09:47.29,0:09:50.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Osteen, for example,\Nsays that he doesn't receive any salary Dialogue: 0,0:09:50.49,0:09:54.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from his ministry and all the money\Nhe makes comes from his book sales. Dialogue: 0,0:09:54.05,0:09:59.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Look, in some ways, I don't really care\Nif a ministry wants to buy a private jet. Dialogue: 0,0:09:59.56,0:10:04.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It looks optically hypocritical,\Nbut I'd rather let theologians argue over Dialogue: 0,0:10:04.20,0:10:07.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the contradictions that those actions\Nhave with actual religious texts. Dialogue: 0,0:10:07.41,0:10:11.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm more interested in how the money is\Ngenerated, and it doesn't get more Dialogue: 0,0:10:11.56,0:10:15.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,unethical of a promise than it\Ndoes with the prosperity Gospel. Dialogue: 0,0:10:15.17,0:10:17.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you're accustomed of giving $10, Dialogue: 0,0:10:17.41,0:10:24.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,go to 20, go up to 70, 8100,\Nraise that amount and watch what God. Dialogue: 0,0:10:24.40,0:10:25.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Will do, because don't you stop. Dialogue: 0,0:10:26.01,0:10:27.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Sowing offerings. Dialogue: 0,0:10:27.17,0:10:29.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, they won't let us go to church. Dialogue: 0,0:10:29.08,0:10:31.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Well, email it in their\Ntext and give or something. Dialogue: 0,0:10:31.85,0:10:33.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You get that tithe in that church, Dialogue: 0,0:10:33.64,0:10:36.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you get that offering in that church,\Nand then you go home and you. Dialogue: 0,0:10:36.93,0:10:40.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do what we're supposed to do. Dialogue: 0,0:10:40.08,0:10:45.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This idea is no different than the Law\Nof Attraction and Manifestation circles Dialogue: 0,0:10:45.11,0:10:48.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that claim that you can use your mind\Nto manifest any desire that you want. Dialogue: 0,0:10:49.00,0:10:50.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In fact, it's been argued Dialogue: 0,0:10:50.13,0:10:53.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that the prosperity theology does have\Nsimilar roots to the new thought Dialogue: 0,0:10:53.81,0:10:57.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,philosophy that became popular\Nin America in the 19th century. Dialogue: 0,0:10:57.33,0:11:01.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When I look at Osteen, for example,\NI don't necessarily see a preacher. Dialogue: 0,0:11:01.69,0:11:03.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I see someone who's more akin to a self Dialogue: 0,0:11:03.77,0:11:08.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,help motivational speaker\Nthat uses God as a proxy. Dialogue: 0,0:11:08.05,0:11:10.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am confident. Dialogue: 0,0:11:10.25,0:11:12.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am secure. Dialogue: 0,0:11:12.41,0:11:14.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I am talented.\NI am talented. Dialogue: 0,0:11:14.65,0:11:17.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Take a look, for example,\Nat Osteen's New York Times bestseller Dialogue: 0,0:11:17.84,0:11:21.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,book, Your Best Life Now, which is\Nfilled with all of these kinds of ideas. Dialogue: 0,0:11:21.53,0:11:25.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So here's a quote from the very\Nfirst chapter enlarging your vision. Dialogue: 0,0:11:25.05,0:11:27.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's not God's lack of resources or your Dialogue: 0,0:11:27.53,0:11:31.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,lack of talent that prevents you\Nfrom prospering your own wrong. Dialogue: 0,0:11:31.08,0:11:33.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thinking can keep you from God's best. Dialogue: 0,0:11:33.73,0:11:36.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the book is riddled with these similar Dialogue: 0,0:11:36.17,0:11:39.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,messages of becoming what you\Nbelieve and the power of your words. Dialogue: 0,0:11:40.00,0:11:42.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a book.\NLike many others in the self help genre, Dialogue: 0,0:11:42.77,0:11:47.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the connection isn't really that hard\Nto see, but it's this sowing your seed Dialogue: 0,0:11:47.49,0:11:51.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,message in the prosperity theology,\Nthe idea that you can donate to a church Dialogue: 0,0:11:51.29,0:11:55.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and in return you can, you know, pay off\Nyour rent, pay off your credit card. Dialogue: 0,0:11:55.13,0:11:57.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That seems particularly stomach churning. Dialogue: 0,0:11:57.57,0:11:59.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And now this is a message that is being Dialogue: 0,0:11:59.61,0:12:03.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,exported from America\Nto Europe and Africa. Dialogue: 0,0:12:03.05,0:12:05.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So one of Nigeria's wealthiest pastors is Dialogue: 0,0:12:05.23,0:12:10.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,this guy called David Oyadepo,\Nwho is said to be worth $150,000,000. Dialogue: 0,0:12:10.05,0:12:13.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We are not asking you to give\Nso the church can be blessed. Dialogue: 0,0:12:13.28,0:12:15.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We're asking you to give\Nso you can be blessed. Dialogue: 0,0:12:15.57,0:12:18.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Some fellow said, okay,\NI was worth $150,000,000. Dialogue: 0,0:12:18.81,0:12:20.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's an insult. Dialogue: 0,0:12:20.21,0:12:22.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,$150,000,000, that's an insult. Dialogue: 0,0:12:22.37,0:12:24.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,150 million too small. Dialogue: 0,0:12:24.29,0:12:27.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do they know what they're doing? Dialogue: 0,0:12:27.16,0:12:31.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A big part of me believes that Copeland\Nand Dollar, they they truly believe their Dialogue: 0,0:12:31.19,0:12:34.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,intentions are good,\Neven for hundreds of millions of dollars. Dialogue: 0,0:12:34.37,0:12:36.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I can't imagine someone knowingly, Dialogue: 0,0:12:36.21,0:12:40.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,deceive and hurt other people without\Njust driving themself insane. Dialogue: 0,0:12:40.32,0:12:44.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the long run, that type of cognitive\Ndissonance just seems too much to bear. Dialogue: 0,0:12:44.08,0:12:48.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But at the end of the day, I'm never\Ngoing to know what their intentions are. Dialogue: 0,0:12:48.37,0:12:52.30,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, I can only ever see what\Nthe consequences of their actions are. Dialogue: 0,0:12:52.33,0:12:57.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And trust me, you haven't\Nseen the worst of it yet. Dialogue: 0,0:12:57.68,0:12:59.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Benny Hin. Dialogue: 0,0:12:59.61,0:13:04.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hin is probably most well known\Nfor what he calls his miracle crusades. Dialogue: 0,0:13:04.77,0:13:07.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,HYNN claims to be able\Nto perform miracles. Dialogue: 0,0:13:07.81,0:13:11.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He'll bring people to the stage with all\Nsorts of illnesses, Dialogue: 0,0:13:11.21,0:13:15.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then with the touch of his hand,\Nthey will feel God's power running through Dialogue: 0,0:13:15.25,0:13:19.06,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,them as they fall back, and these\Ncatchers will catch them as they fall. Dialogue: 0,0:13:19.08,0:13:26.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You had Parkinson's for 15 years since.\NWho are you? Dialogue: 0,0:13:26.68,0:13:28.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,People in the audience will cheer. Dialogue: 0,0:13:28.16,0:13:31.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are others who have stood there in\Nawe with their hands raised in worship. Dialogue: 0,0:13:32.00,0:13:34.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And Benny Hinn isn't the only\None that does this right. Dialogue: 0,0:13:34.73,0:13:38.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is a really common practice\Namongst the prosperity gospel circles. Dialogue: 0,0:13:38.73,0:13:40.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Glory to God.\NYou're not bound to this chair. Dialogue: 0,0:13:40.89,0:13:43.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The day will come, you'll walk out of it. Dialogue: 0,0:13:43.17,0:13:45.82,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In the name of Jesus. Dialogue: 0,0:13:45.85,0:13:48.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What is it that we're really seeing here? Dialogue: 0,0:13:48.69,0:13:52.40,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is this an actual miracle? Dialogue: 0,0:13:53.60,0:13:58.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I would know that there were certain\Nthings that were completely deceptive. Dialogue: 0,0:13:58.97,0:14:01.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Costehen is the nephew of Benny Hin, Dialogue: 0,0:14:01.67,0:14:04.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and he's worked with his family,\Nsometimes as a catcher himself. Dialogue: 0,0:14:04.93,0:14:07.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In 2017, Kostihan came forward Dialogue: 0,0:14:07.37,0:14:10.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,with a testimony of his time\Nspent in Benihan's ministry. Dialogue: 0,0:14:10.81,0:14:16.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The responsibility is to look really good,\Nlook really blessed, sell the narrative, Dialogue: 0,0:14:16.89,0:14:20.10,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,make all the money,\Nand say, look at my life. Dialogue: 0,0:14:20.13,0:14:22.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you give to this, if you follow it, Dialogue: 0,0:14:22.21,0:14:25.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,if you obey it, and if you do what I say,\Ngod will do it for you too. Dialogue: 0,0:14:25.97,0:14:29.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He described the lifestyle that he\Nhad whilst working with his family. Dialogue: 0,0:14:29.61,0:14:32.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We lived in a 10,000 square foot mansion Dialogue: 0,0:14:32.21,0:14:35.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,guarded by a private gate,\Ndrove two Mercedes Benz vehicles, Dialogue: 0,0:14:35.81,0:14:40.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,vacationed in exotic destinations,\Nand shopped at the most expensive stores. Dialogue: 0,0:14:40.81,0:14:43.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Costa Hin really believed in what he was Dialogue: 0,0:14:43.73,0:14:48.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,doing, but he only had doubts when he\Nstarted finding contradictions in what he Dialogue: 0,0:14:48.45,0:14:51.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was teaching and what he\Nwas finding in the Bible. Dialogue: 0,0:14:51.97,0:14:54.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Grace Bruler was eight years old when she Dialogue: 0,0:14:54.39,0:14:58.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,was featured on an episode\Nof CBC's The Fifth Estate in 2005, Dialogue: 0,0:14:58.73,0:15:02.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,an episode that was specifically\Ninvestigating Hens ministry. Dialogue: 0,0:15:02.41,0:15:07.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you could have a miracle,\Nwhat would you want it to be? Dialogue: 0,0:15:07.32,0:15:09.64,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They can look. Dialogue: 0,0:15:10.92,0:15:13.08,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just walk. Dialogue: 0,0:15:13.84,0:15:15.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Is that what you want, Grace? Dialogue: 0,0:15:15.29,0:15:17.28,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just to walk? Dialogue: 0,0:15:18.32,0:15:19.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just to walk. Dialogue: 0,0:15:19.77,0:15:23.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Grace's mother brings her daughter\Nto one of Hinn's miracle crusades. Dialogue: 0,0:15:23.93,0:15:27.68,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And just as she's about to go\Nto the stage, she's intercepted by what Dialogue: 0,0:15:27.71,0:15:30.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are called screeners\Nwho tell her to step aside. Dialogue: 0,0:15:30.65,0:15:35.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,According to that documentary\Nand an insider, the job of the screeners Dialogue: 0,0:15:35.05,0:15:38.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,is to screen out the people\Nthat are severely sick and ill. Dialogue: 0,0:15:38.49,0:15:40.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There's the story of Justin Peters, Dialogue: 0,0:15:40.29,0:15:43.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who is an evangelist himself\Nand was born with cerebral palsy. Dialogue: 0,0:15:43.96,0:15:45.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,During the Fifth Estates investigation Dialogue: 0,0:15:45.69,0:15:49.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into him's ministry, they attempt\Nto get Peters to go on stage as well. Dialogue: 0,0:15:49.37,0:15:53.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And just like Grace, he is also\Nintercepted by the screeners. Dialogue: 0,0:15:53.05,0:15:55.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Our hidden camera shows Justin being Dialogue: 0,0:15:55.25,0:15:59.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,stopped by a screener watch as\NHenryhin whispers something to her. Dialogue: 0,0:15:59.89,0:16:02.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then Justin is told to step aside. Dialogue: 0,0:16:02.93,0:16:08.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In another documentary from 2001,\NHBO were given full access to Hinsaville. Dialogue: 0,0:16:08.00,0:16:09.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Events and were even allowed to follow Dialogue: 0,0:16:09.89,0:16:12.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,several cases of supposed\Nmiracle healings. Dialogue: 0,0:16:12.64,0:16:14.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,These are people that actually managed Dialogue: 0,0:16:14.16,0:16:16.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to get onto the stage\Nand claim they'd been healed. Dialogue: 0,0:16:16.37,0:16:20.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In one instance, the crew follows a boy\Ncalled Ash Neil and his parents as they Dialogue: 0,0:16:20.35,0:16:23.34,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,are desperate to have their\Nchild healed by one of him's. Dialogue: 0,0:16:23.37,0:16:27.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Miracles.\NWe expecting america. Dialogue: 0,0:16:27.80,0:16:31.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The Prakash family are recent\Nimmigrants to America. Dialogue: 0,0:16:31.49,0:16:34.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ten year old Ash Neil\Nis their younger son. Dialogue: 0,0:16:34.73,0:16:39.58,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Two massive brain tumors have\Nreduced him to a vegetative state. Dialogue: 0,0:16:39.61,0:16:45.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,We believe in God, we have faith,\Nand there's nothing impossible for God. Dialogue: 0,0:16:45.77,0:16:48.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Later in the documentary,\NAshton's parents actually attend Dialogue: 0,0:16:48.93,0:16:53.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the crusade and they're brought on stage\Nto have their child healed by him himself. Dialogue: 0,0:16:53.97,0:16:56.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Hin gets the crowd to raise their hands Dialogue: 0,0:16:56.21,0:16:59.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and then he places his hands\Non Ashley's face and says, expect the. Dialogue: 0,0:16:59.77,0:17:07.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Miracle, dear Jesus,\Nthe Lord's going to touch you, young boy. Dialogue: 0,0:17:07.04,0:17:10.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Days after the event and Ashnil\Nstill wasn't healed. Dialogue: 0,0:17:10.41,0:17:11.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It didn't happen. Dialogue: 0,0:17:11.56,0:17:14.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was not even discouraged.\NI know. Dialogue: 0,0:17:14.25,0:17:15.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's God's plan. Dialogue: 0,0:17:15.77,0:17:17.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I can stake my life on pasta. Dialogue: 0,0:17:17.93,0:17:19.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Many words. Dialogue: 0,0:17:19.53,0:17:22.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And God spoke to me last night Dialogue: 0,0:17:22.65,0:17:26.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,at the Coliseum center where the crusade\Nwas going on, and he said, Dialogue: 0,0:17:26.89,0:17:31.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,donate him another $2,000\Nand which I'm going to do it. Dialogue: 0,0:17:31.45,0:17:32.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm going to do that. Dialogue: 0,0:17:32.89,0:17:35.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Recently I watched an event\Nfrom Kenneth Copeland's. Dialogue: 0,0:17:35.72,0:17:37.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Eagle Mountain church, right. Dialogue: 0,0:17:37.17,0:17:39.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's called miracles on a mountain. Dialogue: 0,0:17:39.17,0:17:41.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's another miracle healing service. Dialogue: 0,0:17:41.21,0:17:45.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And in this instance it was hosted\Nby this evangelist called Billy Burke. Dialogue: 0,0:17:45.17,0:17:47.24,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And at one point someone is brought out Dialogue: 0,0:17:47.27,0:17:52.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from the crowd and I thought,\Nhang on, I recognize this guy. Dialogue: 0,0:17:52.28,0:17:53.53,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was Big Nick, Dialogue: 0,0:17:53.56,0:17:57.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who for those of you that don't know,\Nwas an ex member of the popular social Dialogue: 0,0:17:57.32,0:18:00.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,media group the Vlog Squad,\Nwhich is headed by David Dobrik. Dialogue: 0,0:18:00.84,0:18:04.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,At the event, Nick tells\NBilly Burke about his blind eye. Dialogue: 0,0:18:04.21,0:18:06.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm blind in my left eye as well. Dialogue: 0,0:18:06.45,0:18:08.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I know that you told me that. Dialogue: 0,0:18:08.04,0:18:14.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Billy then attempts to cure his eye,\Nloosen that after all these theatrics Dialogue: 0,0:18:14.60,0:18:19.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,billy then starts to wiggle his\Nfinger around and then nothing yet. Dialogue: 0,0:18:19.53,0:18:20.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Nothing yet. Dialogue: 0,0:18:20.53,0:18:23.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And Billy hears that and he continues,\Nlike trying to help him. Dialogue: 0,0:18:23.68,0:18:27.60,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then when he realizes it doesn't work,\Nhe then just tells Nick recite chapters Dialogue: 0,0:18:27.60,0:18:29.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the Bible every night\Nfor your eye to be cured. Dialogue: 0,0:18:29.88,0:18:33.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So John, chapter nine, your confession,\Nstarting tonight and every night. Dialogue: 0,0:18:33.48,0:18:34.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You hear me? Dialogue: 0,0:18:34.08,0:18:37.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Tonight and every night\Nbefore you go to bed. Dialogue: 0,0:18:37.08,0:18:38.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Are you ready? Dialogue: 0,0:18:38.21,0:18:40.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was blind and now I see. Dialogue: 0,0:18:40.32,0:18:42.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I was blind and now I see. Dialogue: 0,0:18:42.21,0:18:43.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And the crowd Cheerss. Dialogue: 0,0:18:43.64,0:18:45.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's like the miracle actually happened. Dialogue: 0,0:18:45.32,0:18:47.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now it's been about seven months since Dialogue: 0,0:18:47.32,0:18:50.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that event took place and I've looked\Nthrough Big Nick's social media account Dialogue: 0,0:18:50.60,0:18:53.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and there's no indication that his\Neye has healed since the event. Dialogue: 0,0:18:53.84,0:19:00.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,So again, what are we witnessing\Nwhen we see things like this? Dialogue: 0,0:19:00.88,0:19:03.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If we are to believe that these people\Naren't just actors, Dialogue: 0,0:19:03.80,0:19:09.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,which I really don't think that they\Nare what is actually happening. Dialogue: 0,0:19:09.21,0:19:11.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Consider this if what we're seeing is Dialogue: 0,0:19:11.84,0:19:16.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,really a miracle, why don't these people\Ngo to hospitals and heal people there? Dialogue: 0,0:19:17.01,0:19:18.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Why do they need the lights Dialogue: 0,0:19:18.56,0:19:22.25,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the cameras and the atmosphere and the\Ntheatrics to be able to do what they do? Dialogue: 0,0:19:22.28,0:19:27.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In 2011, Darren Brown ran this TV special\Nprogram called Miracles for sale. Dialogue: 0,0:19:27.44,0:19:29.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In this special program, Darren Brown, Dialogue: 0,0:19:29.17,0:19:32.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who is this self described mentalist\Nand illusionist, Dialogue: 0,0:19:32.25,0:19:35.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,takes this ordinary individual called\NNathan and attempts to turn him Dialogue: 0,0:19:35.80,0:19:39.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,into a faith healer, performing\Nmiracles in front of an audience. Dialogue: 0,0:19:39.36,0:19:41.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The idea behind the program was to expose Dialogue: 0,0:19:41.72,0:19:44.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the fact that what is happening here are\Nnot miracles, that it's just a product Dialogue: 0,0:19:45.01,0:19:48.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of psychology, the power\Nof suggestion and misdirection. Dialogue: 0,0:19:48.36,0:19:51.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Now, some aspects of faith\Nhealing are just pure trickery. Dialogue: 0,0:19:51.73,0:19:55.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A good example of this is\Nthe infamous leg growing trick. Dialogue: 0,0:19:55.17,0:19:59.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The preacher Todd White is well known\Nfor walking around the streets and finding Dialogue: 0,0:19:59.41,0:20:03.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,individuals who supposedly have one\Nleg that is shorter than the other. Dialogue: 0,0:20:03.04,0:20:04.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And then, miraculously, Dialogue: 0,0:20:04.16,0:20:07.77,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,White will begin to grow out that person's\Nleg right before our very eyes. Dialogue: 0,0:20:07.80,0:20:08.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Thank you. Dialogue: 0,0:20:08.32,0:20:13.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In Jesus name,\Nleft leg, I command you, grow right now. Dialogue: 0,0:20:13.12,0:20:14.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In Jesus name. Dialogue: 0,0:20:14.69,0:20:19.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Darren Brown teaches Nathan to do this\Nexact trick because it's not a miracle. Dialogue: 0,0:20:19.65,0:20:23.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The leg growing trick is infamously\Nused by charlatans throughout history. Dialogue: 0,0:20:23.60,0:20:25.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In fact, a quick Google or YouTube search Dialogue: 0,0:20:25.65,0:20:29.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,will demonstrate how it can be done\Nin several ways, one of which involves Dialogue: 0,0:20:29.45,0:20:33.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,shifting the other person's shoes to make\Nit seem as though a leg is being grown. Dialogue: 0,0:20:33.72,0:20:37.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you speed up the Todd White clip of him\Nperforming this miracle and you just play Dialogue: 0,0:20:37.84,0:20:42.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,it back and forth, you can literally\Nsee what Todd White is doing. Dialogue: 0,0:20:44.00,0:20:46.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But a big part of faith healing\Nisn't just tricks like this. Dialogue: 0,0:20:46.83,0:20:50.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In fact, a lot of it is rooted\Nin a deeper part of who we are as people. Dialogue: 0,0:20:50.84,0:20:52.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,By the end of Darren Brown's special, Dialogue: 0,0:20:52.77,0:20:56.56,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,nathan is able to perform in front\Nof a small audience of believers. Dialogue: 0,0:20:56.56,0:21:00.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you can see that he, too, is able to,\Nwith just the touch of his hand, Dialogue: 0,0:21:00.21,0:21:03.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,bring people to fall back as though\Nthey were touched by God themselves. Dialogue: 0,0:21:03.84,0:21:07.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,To understand how Nathan,\Nwho is an ordinary guy, versus Benny Hinn, Dialogue: 0,0:21:07.80,0:21:10.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,who claims to be able to perform miracles,\Ncan do what they're doing, Dialogue: 0,0:21:10.77,0:21:14.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you have to understand the power behind\Nwhat they're creating in their shows. Dialogue: 0,0:21:14.69,0:21:16.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,From the very moment it begins, Dialogue: 0,0:21:16.69,0:21:21.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,you're joined by a crowd of people\Nunited by a particular cause or belief. Dialogue: 0,0:21:21.64,0:21:23.01,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,There are those in the crowd who are Dialogue: 0,0:21:23.04,0:21:26.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,already in pain, who feel as though\Nsomething is missing in their lives. Dialogue: 0,0:21:26.77,0:21:31.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,When they are brought together, there is a\Nsense of oneness of wholeness and unity. Dialogue: 0,0:21:31.45,0:21:35.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Just think about how powerful crowds can\Nbe and what it's like to be in one, Dialogue: 0,0:21:35.69,0:21:38.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,especially when you're all\Njoined by a united cause. Dialogue: 0,0:21:38.97,0:21:41.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You're then brought into this hypnotic or Dialogue: 0,0:21:41.45,0:21:44.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,more specifically,\Na suggestible and open state. Dialogue: 0,0:21:44.77,0:21:48.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He wants to heal you because he loves you. Dialogue: 0,0:21:48.45,0:21:53.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You don't have to pay for it,\Njust ask for it. Dialogue: 0,0:21:53.17,0:21:56.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The music rises and falls stirring a wave Dialogue: 0,0:21:56.53,0:21:59.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of experiences and emotions\Namongst the crowd. Dialogue: 0,0:21:59.05,0:22:02.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then you begin to create the expectancy\Nfor what is about to come. Dialogue: 0,0:22:02.57,0:22:07.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,All things are possible\Nto him that believe it. Dialogue: 0,0:22:07.77,0:22:11.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You keep the crowd in this heightened,\Naroused state of mind. Dialogue: 0,0:22:11.12,0:22:12.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And as the crowd is ripened Dialogue: 0,0:22:12.77,0:22:17.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,for suggestibility the faith healer acts\Nalmost like a conductor for the orchestra Dialogue: 0,0:22:17.20,0:22:19.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of experiences that people\Nare going through. Dialogue: 0,0:22:19.12,0:22:23.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A leader amongst a crowd of people\Nin a hypnotic trancelike state is Dialogue: 0,0:22:23.76,0:22:26.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something that you cannot underestimate\Nthe psychological effect of. Dialogue: 0,0:22:26.81,0:22:29.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Then the healer begins\Npreaching their message. Dialogue: 0,0:22:29.36,0:22:31.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But don't look for the healing. Dialogue: 0,0:22:31.77,0:22:34.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Look for the healer whatsoever. Dialogue: 0,0:22:34.36,0:22:38.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You shall ask what will I do? Dialogue: 0,0:22:38.69,0:22:40.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The crowd is full of ecstasy. Dialogue: 0,0:22:40.93,0:22:45.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The joy in the audience the deep feeling\Nas though you're becoming a new person. Dialogue: 0,0:22:45.05,0:22:48.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You're connecting with that\Nof which is above you. Dialogue: 0,0:22:48.05,0:22:50.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You expect that when the preacher lays Dialogue: 0,0:22:50.12,0:22:54.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,their hand on you or shouts beggar\Nyou may feel God's touch with it. Dialogue: 0,0:22:54.53,0:22:58.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You've been suggested and primed\Nto believe that that is the case. Dialogue: 0,0:22:58.36,0:23:02.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And in being so connected to the crowd\Naround you the effects of social Dialogue: 0,0:23:02.12,0:23:05.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,conformity are bound to take\Nplace in this trance like state. Dialogue: 0,0:23:05.72,0:23:08.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You go along with what\Nthe preacher's suggestions are. Dialogue: 0,0:23:08.25,0:23:10.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You do what you are expected to do. Dialogue: 0,0:23:10.21,0:23:13.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's no different to what\Na stage hypnotist does. Dialogue: 0,0:23:13.29,0:23:17.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The more suggestible you are, the more\Nbelief you have, the easier it becomes. Dialogue: 0,0:23:17.17,0:23:19.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And what's even more interesting is Dialogue: 0,0:23:19.25,0:23:24.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that in this heightened state of emotions,\Nof euphoria, of adrenaline it's very Dialogue: 0,0:23:24.25,0:23:27.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,possible to feel symptoms\Nbeing alleviated. Dialogue: 0,0:23:27.08,0:23:29.16,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's possible, even for someone who is Dialogue: 0,0:23:29.19,0:23:33.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in a wheelchair to momentarily be\Nable to get up and walk around. Dialogue: 0,0:23:33.08,0:23:39.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But what we are really witnessing\Nis just a moment of mind over body. Dialogue: 0,0:23:39.32,0:23:41.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The placebo effect is\Na well known phenomenon. Dialogue: 0,0:23:41.88,0:23:43.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's when a patient's condition changes Dialogue: 0,0:23:43.77,0:23:48.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,after receiving a treatment that by no\Nmeans should have changed their condition. Dialogue: 0,0:23:48.08,0:23:52.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,For example, if a patient expects a pill\Nto do something and is told by their Dialogue: 0,0:23:52.32,0:23:55.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,doctor that it'll help them even if\Nthat pill is just a sugar pill Dialogue: 0,0:23:55.69,0:24:00.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that doesn't do anything it is possible\Nfor your own brain chemistry to cause Dialogue: 0,0:24:00.12,0:24:03.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,effects similar to what\Nmedication might have caused. Dialogue: 0,0:24:03.32,0:24:05.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The key word here is expect because Dialogue: 0,0:24:05.84,0:24:11.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a placebo effect is mostly theorized to be\Ncaused by our expectations around a given Dialogue: 0,0:24:11.21,0:24:14.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,treatment expectations that we\Nderive from culture and society. Dialogue: 0,0:24:14.93,0:24:16.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That's why a placebo that is given as Dialogue: 0,0:24:17.01,0:24:19.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,an injection rather than\Na pill can be more effective. Dialogue: 0,0:24:19.84,0:24:21.80,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Or when you're given two placebo pills Dialogue: 0,0:24:21.83,0:24:26.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to take every day rather than one it can\Nalso be more effective because culturally Dialogue: 0,0:24:26.12,0:24:30.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,we perceive the latter of these\Ntreatments to have a bigger effect on us. Dialogue: 0,0:24:30.08,0:24:32.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That belief and expectancy can be so Dialogue: 0,0:24:32.77,0:24:35.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,powerful as to have physiological\Neffects on our body. Dialogue: 0,0:24:35.81,0:24:38.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And what more powerful expectation can Dialogue: 0,0:24:38.73,0:24:43.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,somebody have than one that invokes their\Nvery own belief in a higher spiritual Dialogue: 0,0:24:43.32,0:24:47.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,being like God, surrounded by others\Nwho share that very belief? Dialogue: 0,0:24:47.25,0:24:49.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What we are seeing is a placebo. Dialogue: 0,0:24:49.36,0:24:53.44,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,This is why you'll never see any miracle\Nhealer or somebody that believes Dialogue: 0,0:24:53.44,0:24:56.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in the law of attraction, be able to do\Nanything that is beyond a placebo. Dialogue: 0,0:24:56.92,0:25:00.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's why you'll never see them be able\Nto restore the limb of an amputee. Dialogue: 0,0:25:00.36,0:25:03.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And as I've watched your healing crusades, Dialogue: 0,0:25:03.29,0:25:07.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,am I seeing anything\Nthat goes beyond placebo? Dialogue: 0,0:25:07.05,0:25:10.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I've wondered why sometimes someone comes Dialogue: 0,0:25:10.05,0:25:16.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,in and comes out of a wheelchair,\Nwalks around, runs around, Dialogue: 0,0:25:17.01,0:25:20.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and hours later, they're back\Nin that wheelchair again. Dialogue: 0,0:25:20.65,0:25:24.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The problem is, however,\Nthat those who attend the event Dialogue: 0,0:25:24.40,0:25:28.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and whose problems and illnesses are not\Nhealed at the event or return after Dialogue: 0,0:25:28.05,0:25:32.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the event start to blame themselves\Nthat for some reason God didn't want Dialogue: 0,0:25:32.72,0:25:34.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to heal them, that they\Ndidn't have enough faith. Dialogue: 0,0:25:34.60,0:25:37.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Remember Ash Neal from the HBO documentary Dialogue: 0,0:25:37.32,0:25:40.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,seven weeks after attending\NHynn's Miracle Crusade? Dialogue: 0,0:25:40.32,0:25:41.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Expect the miracle. Dialogue: 0,0:25:41.77,0:25:42.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,He passed away. Dialogue: 0,0:25:42.89,0:25:47.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Do you feel in any way\Nthat any hin has let you down? Dialogue: 0,0:25:47.36,0:25:49.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,No. Dialogue: 0,0:25:49.84,0:25:54.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Did you ever, in some of your worst\Nmoments, think that you must have done Dialogue: 0,0:25:54.49,0:25:57.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,something wrong in the eyes\Nof God to deserve this? Dialogue: 0,0:25:57.17,0:25:58.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Yes. Dialogue: 0,0:25:58.36,0:26:01.88,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I know there's a generational curse. Dialogue: 0,0:26:02.12,0:26:04.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Maybe it originated from me or Dialogue: 0,0:26:04.36,0:26:09.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,from my parents, because that curse\Nlasts for three or four generations. Dialogue: 0,0:26:09.29,0:26:10.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Who taught you that? Dialogue: 0,0:26:10.93,0:26:12.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I hate it. Dialogue: 0,0:26:12.41,0:26:14.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,From Pasadena. Dialogue: 0,0:26:14.08,0:26:15.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It doesn't square with the Bible at all. Dialogue: 0,0:26:15.73,0:26:17.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's a complete scam. Dialogue: 0,0:26:17.08,0:26:18.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's utter deception. Dialogue: 0,0:26:18.93,0:26:21.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Increase your faith, Dialogue: 0,0:26:21.45,0:26:29.12,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,increase your seed,\Nand store up for the future Dialogue: 0,0:26:29.20,0:26:36.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,so that when these tragedies hit on earth,\Nyou would be spared. Dialogue: 0,0:26:36.25,0:26:40.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is a deception to a degree that I\Ndon't think I've seen before. Dialogue: 0,0:26:40.52,0:26:42.57,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you have to sit there and look at this Dialogue: 0,0:26:42.60,0:26:45.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,all and wonder, surely there's\Njustice to this story. Dialogue: 0,0:26:46.00,0:26:47.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Right?\NSurely somebody takes the fool. Dialogue: 0,0:26:47.97,0:26:50.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Surely there's a happy ending to it. Dialogue: 0,0:26:50.17,0:26:52.04,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Surely. Dialogue: 0,0:26:53.88,0:26:59.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,In September of 2019, benny Hin comes out\Nwith quite the astonishing announcement. Dialogue: 0,0:27:00.01,0:27:04.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I'm sorry to say\Nthat prosperity has gone a little crazy. Dialogue: 0,0:27:04.77,0:27:07.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I think it's an offense to the Lord. Dialogue: 0,0:27:07.21,0:27:10.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's an offense to say, give a think. Dialogue: 0,0:27:10.35,0:27:15.76,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's offense to the Holy Spirit\Nto place a price on the gospel. Dialogue: 0,0:27:16.40,0:27:18.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I'm done with it. Dialogue: 0,0:27:18.49,0:27:23.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Many whom had decided to leave\Nthe prosperity gospel hallelujah. Dialogue: 0,0:27:23.73,0:27:26.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Right?\NOne of the best lessons that I could give Dialogue: 0,0:27:26.65,0:27:29.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to people is say,\Nwatch what they go back to. Dialogue: 0,0:27:29.53,0:27:33.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Watch what they give up\Nand watch what they go back to. Dialogue: 0,0:27:33.12,0:27:36.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Okay?\NSo it's time to give to the Lord's work. Dialogue: 0,0:27:36.57,0:27:43.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's time to succeed in the Lord's work\Nso God can bless you and reward you. Dialogue: 0,0:27:43.77,0:27:46.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Trust me.\NIt's time to give to the Lord's work. Dialogue: 0,0:27:46.93,0:27:51.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Because giving guarantees\Nour financial protection. Dialogue: 0,0:27:51.69,0:27:55.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The problem is, once you've generated\Nthe type of following and business Dialogue: 0,0:27:55.69,0:28:00.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and reputation that hin has,\Nchanging your ways becomes almost Dialogue: 0,0:28:00.65,0:28:04.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,impossible, and more so because I\Ngenuinely believe that most of these Dialogue: 0,0:28:04.65,0:28:07.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,prosperity preachers,\Nthey're not intentionally malicious, Dialogue: 0,0:28:07.93,0:28:10.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,they've deceived themselves,\Neven till today. Dialogue: 0,0:28:11.01,0:28:14.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I question,\Nis this God or is this just me? Dialogue: 0,0:28:14.89,0:28:17.20,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The reality is that most of the preachers Dialogue: 0,0:28:17.20,0:28:20.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that we've mentioned in this video are\Ncontinuing their operations today. Dialogue: 0,0:28:20.64,0:28:22.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And when they pass,\Nthere's going to be a wave of new Dialogue: 0,0:28:22.97,0:28:25.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,prosperity preachers ready\Nto take their place. Dialogue: 0,0:28:25.45,0:28:28.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The message is an easy one to spread. Dialogue: 0,0:28:28.12,0:28:31.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It promises you health,\Nwealth, and happiness. Dialogue: 0,0:28:31.05,0:28:32.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It makes you feel good. Dialogue: 0,0:28:32.48,0:28:34.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And what's not to love about that, right? Dialogue: 0,0:28:34.32,0:28:35.70,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Look at the comment section below. Dialogue: 0,0:28:35.72,0:28:39.32,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And you're probably not going to be hard\Npressed to find someone defending him or Dialogue: 0,0:28:39.35,0:28:41.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Copeland or\Nthe Prosperity Theology overall. Dialogue: 0,0:28:41.96,0:28:45.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You'll probably find people claiming\Nthat they have seen miracles happen or Dialogue: 0,0:28:45.53,0:28:48.90,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that by sowing their seed prosperity\Nreally was given to them. Dialogue: 0,0:28:48.93,0:28:51.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And I'm not delivering\Nany new message here. Dialogue: 0,0:28:51.36,0:28:53.52,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Prosperity Theology receives a lot Dialogue: 0,0:28:53.55,0:28:56.92,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of criticism inside of Christianity\Nand outside, and you. Dialogue: 0,0:28:56.95,0:28:59.26,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Know you're a piece of shit, right?\NYou know? Dialogue: 0,0:28:59.29,0:29:00.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Right. Dialogue: 0,0:29:00.57,0:29:02.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,They'll still get away with their Dialogue: 0,0:29:02.51,0:29:06.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,teachings because their message\Nisn't for people who are cynical. Dialogue: 0,0:29:06.05,0:29:09.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It's really difficult to stop\Ntheir more deceptive actions. Dialogue: 0,0:29:09.45,0:29:13.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The only thing you can do is go to those\Nthat believe in it and steer them away. Dialogue: 0,0:29:13.45,0:29:15.74,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And until that happens,\Nthe booming business Dialogue: 0,0:29:15.77,0:29:22.00,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of Prosperity Theology and faith\Nhealing will continue to flourish. Dialogue: 0,0:29:24.28,0:29:26.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't know what you feel about Dialogue: 0,0:29:26.65,0:29:32.05,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,the Prosperity Gospel,\Nthe Health, wealth and Prosperity Gospel, Dialogue: 0,0:29:32.08,0:29:37.22,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,but I'll tell you what\NI feel about it hatred. Dialogue: 0,0:29:37.25,0:29:42.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It is not the gospel,\Nand it's being exported from this country Dialogue: 0,0:29:42.21,0:29:48.54,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,to Africa and Asia, selling a bill\Nof goods to the poorest, of the poor. Dialogue: 0,0:29:48.57,0:29:55.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Believe this message your pigs won't die,\Nyour wife won't have miscarriages. Dialogue: 0,0:29:55.36,0:30:01.78,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You have rings on your fingers and coats\Non your back that's coming out of America. Dialogue: 0,0:30:01.80,0:30:04.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,The people don't ought to be\Ngiving our money and our time. Dialogue: 0,0:30:04.53,0:30:07.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,John Piper is just one of the many Dialogue: 0,0:30:07.17,0:30:11.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,preachers and ministries that actively\Ntry and combat the Prosperity Gospel. Dialogue: 0,0:30:11.36,0:30:13.48,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And although Texas is home to some Dialogue: 0,0:30:13.51,0:30:17.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,of the biggest megachurches,\Nit's also home to the Trinity Foundation, Dialogue: 0,0:30:17.49,0:30:21.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,a leading watchdog ministry founded\Nby Oli Anthony that carries out Dialogue: 0,0:30:21.36,0:30:25.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,investigations into some of the conducts\Nof the biggest televangelists. Dialogue: 0,0:30:25.12,0:30:28.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It was Oli Anthony,\Nfounder of the East Dallas homeless Dialogue: 0,0:30:28.53,0:30:32.86,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Ministry, Trinity Foundation,\Nwho masterminded the investigation Dialogue: 0,0:30:32.89,0:30:37.33,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and helped expose some of the top\Ntelevangelists in the country. Dialogue: 0,0:30:37.36,0:30:41.42,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,You know, faith and religion\Nare powerful things. Dialogue: 0,0:30:41.45,0:30:45.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Seeing the sense of hope that it can fill\Na person with or the community Dialogue: 0,0:30:45.84,0:30:48.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and the purpose that it can inspire\Ntowards good causes, Dialogue: 0,0:30:49.01,0:30:52.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I don't think anyone can look at those\Nthings on their own and say they're bad. Dialogue: 0,0:30:53.01,0:30:54.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A few months ago, Dialogue: 0,0:30:54.05,0:30:57.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I had burnt out from working,\Nand when that happened, Dialogue: 0,0:30:57.12,0:31:00.46,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I felt very cynical about\Neverything that I was doing. Dialogue: 0,0:31:00.49,0:31:01.62,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,What was the point? Dialogue: 0,0:31:01.65,0:31:04.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And what helped was having a sense of hope Dialogue: 0,0:31:04.21,0:31:08.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,that those feelings would come to pass\Nand finding purpose in what I was doing Dialogue: 0,0:31:08.41,0:31:14.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,and spending time with my friends\Nand family, hope, purpose and community. Dialogue: 0,0:31:14.05,0:31:18.14,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But hope, purpose and community\Ncan be exploited. Dialogue: 0,0:31:18.16,0:31:19.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It can cloud your better judgment just Dialogue: 0,0:31:20.01,0:31:22.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,because somebody dresses\Nthe part or sounds the part. Dialogue: 0,0:31:22.69,0:31:24.38,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And invokes the word God. Dialogue: 0,0:31:24.41,0:31:28.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you're somebody watching this that is\Na believer in the prosperity gospel, Dialogue: 0,0:31:28.53,0:31:32.98,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,I invite you to think over and really\Nquestion, could I be wrong? Dialogue: 0,0:31:33.01,0:31:35.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,A healthy skepticism, I think, Dialogue: 0,0:31:35.21,0:31:39.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,only motivates someone to find the truth,\Nnot drift further away from it. Dialogue: 0,0:31:39.69,0:31:44.29,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Seek, and perhaps you will find it. Dialogue: 0,0:31:44.32,0:31:48.50,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,If you think the world of prosperity\Npreachers and megachurches is crazy, then, Dialogue: 0,0:31:48.53,0:31:52.09,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,my friends, you have to check out\Nmy documentary on New Age gurus. Dialogue: 0,0:31:52.12,0:31:54.02,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,It should be shown\Nsomewhere on the screen. Dialogue: 0,0:31:54.05,0:31:57.66,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,That is arguably where all of this\Nkind of began to form and originate. Dialogue: 0,0:31:57.68,0:32:00.18,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,And it is just a whole other\Nrabbit hole in and of itself. Dialogue: 0,0:32:00.21,0:32:02.81,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,But either way, my friends,\Nit is great to be back. Dialogue: 0,0:32:02.84,0:32:04.94,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,As always.\NHand to herd. Dialogue: 0,0:32:04.96,0:32:05.36,Default,,0000,0000,0000,,Salute.