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Falling physics that Every Climber Needs to know

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    it says kilo newtons
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    and after this video you will have much
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    better understanding than probably 99
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    of the rest of the climbers what these
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    kilonewtons
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    actually mean and what forces are
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    involved in real climbing falls
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    and then i will explain why big big
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    whippers
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    are often much softer than small falls
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    but first let's find out what is force
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    i like to play with my instagram
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    followers so i decided to ask them
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    what comes to their mind when we hear a
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    word
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    force half of the people said that it
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    has something to do with star wars
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    fair enough and then before you start
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    thinking that
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    half of my instagram followers are
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    really smart
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    i have to say that majority of them
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    didn't vote it at all
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    so i imagined something like what is
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    force
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    [Music]
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    okay but those who wanted to sound smart
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    said that
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    force is mass times acceleration which
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    is the formula that newton
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    this guy came up with and that's why we
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    measure
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    force in newtons which to me is a little
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    bit funny when you think about it
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    imagine newton
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    [Music]
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    so we measure mass in kilograms
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    and we measure acceleration
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    in meters per second squared
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    and we should measure force
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    in newtons
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    so to put this formula into perspective
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    it's like
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    one newton this guy is pushing
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    one kilogram of mass and that
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    makes that mass to accelerate by one
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    meter per second
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    every second so here i have a carabiner
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    and if i put all my weight on it
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    like so the question is what's the force
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    right now into this carabiner
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    so if we look back to the formula we can
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    say that
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    mass is my mass multiplied by
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    acceleration what acceleration i'm
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    hanging on a tree there is no
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    movement no acceleration or
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    is there an acceleration
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    okay so you've probably seen this
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    experiment before
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    i have heavy object and a light object
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    and the question is if i let go both of
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    them at the same time
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    which one is going to hit the ground
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    first
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    let's try
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    [Music]
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    so yes we fell at the same time because
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    that's what gravity does it makes
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    objects fall at exactly the same
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    acceleration of 9.8 meters per second
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    per second
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    [Music]
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    so when i'm hanging on this carabiner
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    gravity is pulling me down
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    but in order for me to not move down
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    there must be
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    opposite force which would be pulling me
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    up
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    here i have a spring while the gravity
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    is pulling the rock down the spring is
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    pulling the rock
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    up so the carabiner is actually like a
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    very very stiff spring
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    which is pulling me up the molecules of
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    the carabiner when i'm hanging on it
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    are being spread apart but they like to
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    stay together so we kind of
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    pull back you can't see this expansion
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    of the quick draw on low forces
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    but you can on big ones
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    and so it turns out that this carabiner
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    has to accelerate
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    my weight up at the same 9.8 meters per
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    second
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    squared which turns out to be about 600
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    newtons
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    yep 600 of these need to
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    hold one skinny guy like me
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    [ __ ]
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    okay moving on this quick draw says
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    that it can hold up to 26 kilonewtons
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    kilonewton is basically a thousand
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    newtons
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    so it means that it could hold about
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    40 me i wish i would have a clone
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    machine so i could
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    demonstrate this to you
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    and then imagine how many videos all of
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    this
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    me could create
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    [Music]
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    so if you want to see us create more
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    videos like this
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    click the join button it really helps
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    and i promise i will spend every single
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    penny i get from you guys
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    on buying a clone machine
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    okay so you can hang 40 me
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    on one single carabiner that's pretty
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    impressive
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    although there are things that you must
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    know first of all
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    all of these ratings are for new
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    equipment
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    wear and tear does not go into that
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    rating
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    how bad is that well i asked my friend
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    ryan from youtube channel how not to
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    highline because he has a hobby
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    of breaking stuff and according to his
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    tests most of the metals tend to last
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    pretty well
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    although with soft things things are
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    totally different black diamond sling
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    with a
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    22 kilonewton mbs
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    what what was the mbs on is 22
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    kilonewtons yeah
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    yep a sling rated at 22 kilonewtons
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    broke at six and here's another one
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    that's a great condition would not whip
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    no not whip i would tie my dog to this
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    though
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    all right i wouldn't tie a very big dog
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    to that
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    hold on let's see how big of a dog could
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    you have tied
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    with this oh uh
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    chihuahua yeah so if you're one of these
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    people who like to save money
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    and use very old worn down slings
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    good luck 24 kilonewtons
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    that did not stretch that much oh i
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    guess
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    guess four kilonewtons
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    what z [ __ ] man 4
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    000 newtons okay how much does
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    such sling can hold well that's pretty
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    easy just divide 4 000 newtons by
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    9.8 or if you want easier by 10
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    and you get 400 kilograms
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    that sounds quite a lot no 400 kilograms
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    well all of these conversions from
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    force to kilograms that i have been
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    talking so far
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    are based on the fact that the weight is
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    hanging statically
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    once the thing starts falling everything
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    changes
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    so what you have just seen is a clip
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    from dmm
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    where they dropped 80 kilograms of mass
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    and that broke a brand new dyneema sling
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    now my goal is not to scare you it's the
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    opposite i want to bring the awareness
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    that climbing gear is
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    not magic and if you use it incorrectly
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    it might fail
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    fun fact do you know this joke that
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    climbers like to say when they fail on
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    their climbs
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    but today is a high gravity day
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    well turns out that's true gravity does
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    change from month to month
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    so if you are one of those people who
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    like to complain that
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    today is a bad humidity or bad
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    temperature now you have a right to
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    complain that today is a bad gravity day
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    yay okay let's see what happens when
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    objects like us climbers start
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    falling
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    that was a 10 meters fall
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    let's see how much force such fall would
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    generate to the climber
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    the formula for that would be similar to
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    what we had before
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    except that we need to multiply this by
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    the distance the climber was
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    falling and divide by the distance the
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    climber was slowing
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    down
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    and did you actually notice how soft the
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    fall for the climber was
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    so imagine driving a car in the highway
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    and pressing on the brake gently
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    while you come to a stop no problems
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    right
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    now imagine you're not driving so fast
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    you're in a city you're
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    driving slowly but you slam on a brick
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    that would not feel very nice right
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    so here is the first thing i want you to
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    remember out of this video
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    the impact to the climber will always be
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    the product of the distance the climber
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    was falling
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    divided by the distance of the slowdown
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    phase
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    so let's calculate the falling distance
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    was about
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    four quick draws and the slow down
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    distance
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    was about two and a half quickdraws and
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    we get about 860 newtons
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    or if we would replace her with a
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    standard 80 kilogram climber
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    that would be about 1.3
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    kilonewtons which is not much although
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    this formula has a little problem
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    because it will always give you
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    the value which is slightly lower than
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    it would be in
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    real life but showing you how to
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    calculate more precisely would mean that
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    most of you would probably just leave
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    this video right here
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    but we don't need to do that because we
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    can rely on real life
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    experimental data and who is the boss at
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    providing such data for us
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    hi i'm ryan jinx and and that's enough
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    advertisement for you
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    what we did in this video they put a
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    device measuring the force on the
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    climber
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    and made a series of falls
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    [Music]
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    that puts me in 1.87
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    so most of the falls that in my opinion
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    would be a good delaying example
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    where below 2 kilonewtons now let's take
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    a look at these two
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    extreme examples climber on the left is
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    5 meters above the bolt
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    so that would be 10 meters full plus the
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    slack in the system
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    the belayer probably has about one meter
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    of slack
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    and then there is probably one more
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    meter of slack
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    in between the quick draws so in total
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    we are looking at
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    12 meters fall while climber on the
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    right is only one meter above the bolt
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    and let's say that the belayer is really
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    afraid and he's going to give a very
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    hard catch for the climber
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    so we are looking at 2 meters fall
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    so a massive 12 meters fall or a small
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    2 meters fall which one do you think is
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    gonna be softer for the climber
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    well let's see we know how much the
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    climbers will fall but now we need to
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    find out the
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    slow down distances for both of the
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    cases
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    and that depends mainly on two things
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    first
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    is the displacement of the belayer on a
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    big big whipper
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    the belayer will probably fly about 2
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    meters
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    while on a small fall let's assume very
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    common mistake for beginners
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    where the belayer just takes the slack
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    out and delays very hard
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    and the second factor is the stretch of
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    the rope
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    rope manufacturers claim that if you put
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    80 kilogram
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    mass on a dynamic rope statically
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    like so without movement the rope will
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    stretch
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    10 percent and dynamic stretch when you
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    take elite fall
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    is up to 30 percent well
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    up to 30 percent is not very helpful for
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    us what we need to know
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    is the stretch of this rope from two to
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    four kilonewtons force that's where the
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    lead falls are
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    and yet again i was texting ryan so i'm
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    gonna pull
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    some dynamic rope to see how much it
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    stretches at first we thought it's gonna
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    be very easy just go to the park stretch
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    the rope to different forces
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    and measure the elongation of the rope
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    well sometimes easy is
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    hard when you stretch the rope to
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    certain force and leave it there
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    the force will start dropping on the
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    rope the rope kind of just
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    gives up while this is very interesting
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    it's not critical for us
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    the only thing he needed to do is to
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    pull the rope as fast as he can to
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    desired force
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    and measure the stretch okay
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    oh my god that's the seven mark
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    6.9 meters
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    it stretches when you pull it a dynamic
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    rope
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    to four kilonewtons but then there is
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    another interesting factor
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    once you load the rope to high forces it
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    takes
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    some time for the rope to get back to
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    its original length
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    this is what's known as rope resting and
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    it was really cool to see this in action
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    see the graveyard getting pulled back
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    slowly
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    super interesting probably way more
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    interesting
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    to me than it is to you right now so
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    after he spent like four hours in the
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    park pulling the ropes
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    the results were that on forces from two
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    to four kilonewtons
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    the rope stretched to about 20 percent
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    great so let's use that in our
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    calculations
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    on a big fall we have 27 meters of rope
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    in total
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    so that would be 5.4 meters of stretch
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    while in a small fall we have 5 meters
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    of rope
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    and that would be 1 meter of stretch
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    however our belayer is panicking and
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    taking heart
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    so he will take half of that stretch for
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    himself
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    leaving only half a meter of stretch for
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    the climber
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    and tadam the big big whipper
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    will be two and a half times softer for
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    the climber than a small fall
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    oh i love fun facts here's another one
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    imagine that you were climbing
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    and failed but humidity was good
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    temperature was good even the gravity
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    was good that day
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    you can still blame the moon negligibly
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    but truly you weigh about a millionth of
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    your weight
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    less when the moon is directly above you
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    so if you want to send
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    climb when the moon is directly above
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    you
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    you're welcome i remember i was
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    projecting this really long route of
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    35 meters and the first time i managed
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    to link all the cruxes and arrive at the
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    anchor
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    the moment when i was pulling the rope
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    up to clip the anchor
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    my belayer couldn't see me very well so
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    he just gave me a lot of slack
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    and on top of that the bolt before the
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    anchor
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    was really far really ran out
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    so while i was dragging the rope up i
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    lost my balance
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    and took a fall the wall is flying in
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    front of me and i'm thinking why i'm
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    still
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    falling this is unusual when i stopped
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    and looked up it was maybe five or six
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    quick draws above me probably about
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    15 meters of fall but
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    the fall was super soft it's like riding
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    an
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    elevator so here is another takeaway out
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    of this video
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    if the climber is really high up he has
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    a lot of rope to absorb the fall
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    so as long as he doesn't fall onto
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    something
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    the fall will be soft no matter how you
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    blade that
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    however if the climber is not so high he
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    doesn't have so much rope to absorb the
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    fall
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    then soft dynamic bling is really
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    important and you can ask any light
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    climber how many times we had their
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    ankles
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    broken due to hard catches okay let's
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    switch gears a little bit let's talk
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    about
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    friction because the more friction you
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    have
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    the harder the fall for the climber will
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    be
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    and here is very extreme example of that
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    as you can see right here
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    we z dragged it and so we're gonna have
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    a lot of friction
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    when i fall for science
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    so when you have a lot of friction the
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    rope close to the climber
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    stretches normally but the rope closer
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    to belayer
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    doesn't stretch that much it's like
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    having shorter rope and heavier belayer
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    at the same time
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    and although the force to the harness
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    was only two and a half kilonewtons
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    a lot of the force went pendulum into
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    the wall
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    and that's how we break ankles so
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    extending the quickdraws not only helps
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    you to clip and avoid situations like
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    this
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    but also reduces the impact forces for
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    the climbers
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    ok let's circle back to dmm test
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    breaking the sling the nema slings are
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    very static they don't stretch
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    at all and i hope that by now you
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    understand that this sudden stop can
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    create a
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    huge forces if not ask somebody to slap
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    you
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    this stop on the face will be basically
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    what you need to understand so
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    let's make a very wild and probably very
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    inaccurate guess
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    but this sling would stretch to about 5
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    centimeters so if we drop 80 kilograms
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    of mass
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    the distance of 120 centimeters
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    and the absorption distance is only 5
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    centimeters
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    we are looking at 19 kilo newtons
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    if that is not gonna break the sling
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    it's definitely gonna break
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    you whoa if you're still watching that
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    probably means that you should be
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    at least a little bit geeky so here is a
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    dessert for you
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    there is no gravity yeah
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    objects don't attract each other there
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    is
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    only space time you feel as though
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    you're being pushed
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    into the ground not because of a force
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    called gravity
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    but because time is moving faster for
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    your head
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    than for your feet this and all the
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    other resources that i use to create
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    send some love to ryan for providing me
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    with all of his experimental data that i
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Title:
Falling physics that Every Climber Needs to know
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Team:
Hard Is Easy
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Belay Masterclass
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