Experiencing a different culture of land: lessons of a technologist | Malumbo Chipofya | TEDxMünster
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0:13 - 0:17Probably most of you rent
or own a property to live in -
0:17 - 0:20and that you certainly have neighbours.
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0:20 - 0:23Most of you know that if you entered
your neighbour's property -
0:23 - 0:25without permission,
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0:25 - 0:27they could actually get you
arrested for trespassing. -
0:28 - 0:31But that is enforceable here in Germany
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0:31 - 0:34because all properties
are registered with the state -
0:34 - 0:37and therefore they are protected by law.
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0:37 - 0:38In many countries across the world,
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0:38 - 0:44by contrast, up to 70% of the land
may be unregistered. -
0:46 - 0:49But even for people
in some of these countries, -
0:49 - 0:52where they have a registered land title,
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0:52 - 0:56such land titles may not
be relevant to how they live. -
0:57 - 0:59Consider, for example a Maasai family.
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1:00 - 1:05They have 800 cattle, 500 goats and so on,
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1:05 - 1:07donkeys and other animals.
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1:07 - 1:10They depend on the land
for all their basic needs, -
1:10 - 1:14for the water, for their food,
for the food for the animals, -
1:14 - 1:16and even for medicines.
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1:16 - 1:20For them, receiving
an individual land title -
1:22 - 1:27may actually lead to losing
access to vital resources. -
1:28 - 1:32An individual land title
may actually leave them worse off. -
1:32 - 1:37So as Cari mentioned,
I worked for a project. -
1:37 - 1:39It is called "its4land."
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1:39 - 1:40In this project
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1:40 - 1:44we are creating innovative tools
for land tenure registration. -
1:44 - 1:49Our goal is to reduce the high
percentage of unregistered land, -
1:50 - 1:51try to bring it to zero,
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1:51 - 1:57using new tools that can allow us
to rapidly map property. -
1:58 - 2:00The project involves eight partners,
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2:00 - 2:02but they are spread across six countries.
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2:02 - 2:06I work for the Institute
for Geoinformatics, here in Muenster. -
2:06 - 2:10So when we were invited to join
the project, to start the project, -
2:10 - 2:11I was really excited
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2:11 - 2:15because the target countries
are Kenya, Rwanda and Ethiopia, -
2:15 - 2:17which are all in East Africa,
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2:17 - 2:20and that's not so far away
from my own home country of Malawi. -
2:24 - 2:27We embarked on this journey,
myself as part of this team, -
2:27 - 2:30to create a small piece of software
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2:30 - 2:35that allows communities,
at a local scale, to document their land -
2:35 - 2:36using hand-drawn maps.
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2:36 - 2:38For example, this one here.
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2:39 - 2:44Our software should be able to read
and process the hand-drawn sketches, -
2:44 - 2:47understand what is drawn in them,
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2:47 - 2:49and then organize them,
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2:49 - 2:52so they can be used with
other data about land. -
2:52 - 2:54This was our goal
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2:54 - 2:57and with that in mind we set to work.
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2:57 - 3:01We created some preliminary designs
and built a prototype. -
3:01 - 3:06We even tested our workflows
on a site here in Germany. -
3:08 - 3:11But fast forward a few months:
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3:11 - 3:16We arrived in the Muslim Maasai County
of southern Kenya called Kajiado. -
3:18 - 3:21Almost as soon as we arrived
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3:21 - 3:25all of our plans which we have made,
what we have planned to the minute, -
3:25 - 3:26started to fall apart.
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3:26 - 3:29So all our assumptions
were actually basically wrong. -
3:30 - 3:32It happens when we arrived there,
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3:33 - 3:34there was a drought.
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3:36 - 3:42The people needed more time to go
and find water, find food for the animals. -
3:43 - 3:45In fact on the first day
that we were there -
3:45 - 3:48we actually caught up with the people
at a local water hole. -
3:50 - 3:53That was the only place
you can meet people at the time of day. -
3:54 - 3:59So we jumped straight into work,
we were standing under a tree, -
4:02 - 4:05researchers and the people
from the community, -
4:05 - 4:09and my colleague, Serene,
from the University of Leuven -
4:09 - 4:11started with her part of the interview.
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4:11 - 4:14She had prepared
an unstructured interview. -
4:14 - 4:16She started asking questions,
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4:16 - 4:22but by the time, she went from the first
to the second to the third question, -
4:22 - 4:24I started getting nervous.
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4:24 - 4:26Because I was standing next to her,
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4:26 - 4:29but the thing is I had a ten-page
questionnaire in my hand, -
4:29 - 4:32and I have prepared
everything to the minute. -
4:32 - 4:37I thought to myself how I am going
to perform a very structured interview -
4:37 - 4:39in this very dynamic scenario.
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4:42 - 4:45Before I finished thinking,
already it was my turn to ask questions. -
4:45 - 4:47She went, "It's your turn!"
I think oh my god. -
4:47 - 4:52Anyway, I put out my questionnaire.
Here is my first question. -
4:52 - 4:54I read the first question.
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4:55 - 5:00The interpreter standing next to me,
he translates it to the Maasai language. -
5:01 - 5:04Then there was a couple
of seconds silence. -
5:04 - 5:08Then after the silence,
everybody bursts into laughter. -
5:09 - 5:13Okay, what funny thing did I say?
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5:13 - 5:17I was taken aback for a moment
because I knew my question was plain. -
5:17 - 5:21There were about 15 to 20 men
standing around me, -
5:22 - 5:25and there were about five others
who had just walked 30 kilometres -
5:25 - 5:29with their animals from Tanzania,
so it is across the border, -
5:29 - 5:32just to graze the animals in the area.
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5:32 - 5:33What do I do?
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5:33 - 5:36I just looked back down
on my questionnaire -
5:36 - 5:39and I read the second question;
said forget the first. -
5:40 - 5:42But by the time I raised my head again
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5:42 - 5:45I realized that it wasn't always
the same faces around. -
5:45 - 5:49It was like people are standing there,
and they'd move to talk to someone else, -
5:49 - 5:50and then they come back
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5:50 - 5:53and maybe look at
the animals a little bit. -
5:53 - 5:56I thought this could mean a few things,
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5:56 - 6:00but either, this excercise is
completely boring for these guys, -
6:01 - 6:04or they are extremely busy.
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6:04 - 6:08I went with the second, of course,
because they had more immediate concerns. -
6:08 - 6:10We found them in their place of work,
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6:10 - 6:12which that was.
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6:12 - 6:15So I decided: screw this.
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6:15 - 6:17I put my questionnaire back in my pocket
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6:18 - 6:20and just started having
conversations with them. -
6:21 - 6:23So we were just standing
and having little chats. -
6:24 - 6:26Through that we learned quite a lot,
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6:26 - 6:30for example, we learned that the Maasai
never really traditionally owned land, -
6:30 - 6:31something we had a clue about,
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6:31 - 6:34but not in the modern sense
of owning land, right? -
6:34 - 6:37So this was always something
that is imposed on them -
6:37 - 6:40and it goes back to the colonial era.
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6:40 - 6:43Most of the things that they told us
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6:43 - 6:45were wrapped in little stories.
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6:45 - 6:48It wasn't like plain facts.
It was story after story. -
6:48 - 6:53For example, there was one young man
who came up to us and told us a story -
6:53 - 6:57that demonstrates
a certain loose relationship -
6:57 - 6:59of the Maasai with their land.
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6:59 - 7:01He had uncovered an anomaly,
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7:01 - 7:03he had uncovered something wrong
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7:03 - 7:06in the boundary of a big piece of land
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7:06 - 7:08that belongs to one family.
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7:08 - 7:11When I say family, of course, I don't mean
husband, wife, and children. -
7:11 - 7:16I mean like 10 or more households
of brothers, cousins, and so on, -
7:16 - 7:20living together on a piece of land
and sharing all their resources, right? -
7:20 - 7:21What had happened is
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7:21 - 7:24they have sort of other
neighbouring parcels of land, right? -
7:24 - 7:27The people in the families
in those neighbouring parcels -
7:27 - 7:29had actually subdivided their land
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7:29 - 7:32and then they had sold
parts of those pieces to other people. -
7:32 - 7:36In the process somehow
the boundaries have been moved, -
7:36 - 7:38so in favor of the new plots.
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7:38 - 7:42So their was a big chunk of land
that was lost to this family -
7:42 - 7:44that was living together.
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7:44 - 7:45The problem, of course, is that
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7:45 - 7:48the discovery that was good
that they found out -
7:48 - 7:51was actually 12 years too late.
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7:52 - 7:55Because in Kenya you can only challenge
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7:55 - 7:59the issuance of land titles
within a period of 12 years. -
7:59 - 8:05And these changes had been registered
with the state more than 20 years before. -
8:07 - 8:08How could this happen?
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8:08 - 8:10How did they not discover this?
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8:10 - 8:15It so happens that as they live together,
they knew about the boundaries, -
8:15 - 8:19but they never really considered them
as a barrier to movement, -
8:19 - 8:21as a restriction,
as if you can't go there. -
8:21 - 8:24When they graze their animals,
or when they go to collect firewood, -
8:24 - 8:27or do other activities on the land,
they just crisscrossed on there. -
8:28 - 8:30It didn't matter whose parcel
that really was. -
8:30 - 8:33And so sadly, of course,
when changes are happening -
8:33 - 8:34in that adjacent parcels,
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8:34 - 8:38they never really bothered to check
what is going on with the boundaries -
8:38 - 8:41and with the actual information
that is registered. -
8:43 - 8:46So anyway, we went on
with different conversations. -
8:46 - 8:48Later on we asked the people
to draw us some maps -
8:48 - 8:51to illustrate the things
that they were telling us, -
8:51 - 8:53the stories that they were telling us.
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8:53 - 8:54Here is an example:
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8:54 - 8:56This is a Maasai homestead.
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8:56 - 9:00A Maasai family lives in
a circular arrangement of huts, -
9:00 - 9:02which is called an enkang.
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9:03 - 9:06Usually in the middle
they'll have a circular region, -
9:06 - 9:08an enclosure or several enclosures,
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9:08 - 9:10where they keep their domestic
animals at night. -
9:10 - 9:12This is for protection from wild animals.
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9:13 - 9:17The traditional Maasai hut
in their language is called an inkaji, -
9:17 - 9:20or in plural it is called inkajijik.
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9:20 - 9:22It looks like this from the outside.
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9:23 - 9:27The huts usually belong to the wives.
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9:28 - 9:31So there will be one man for the enkang
and there are several wives, -
9:31 - 9:36and each wife will have
her own little hut for her family. -
9:37 - 9:39Every wife also has an entrance,
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9:39 - 9:42so a gate entering into the enkang.
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9:42 - 9:43And she is responsible for that gate.
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9:43 - 9:46She is responsible
for opening it in the morning -
9:46 - 9:49and then closing it in the night.
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9:49 - 9:52These gates are guarded
by a big branch of a tree, -
9:52 - 9:53which is called an oltim.
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9:53 - 9:56Once the oltim is placed
inside of this gate -
9:57 - 10:00then no one can enter it,
especially the men. -
10:00 - 10:02The men cannot walk over this oltim
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10:02 - 10:05because in their culture
it is considered taboo. -
10:05 - 10:11And there are also subtle rules about
which gates can be used for what purpose. -
10:11 - 10:14For example, you have a gate
which is for goats only, -
10:14 - 10:16and one of the other entrances
would be for people, -
10:16 - 10:20and maybe another one
would be for like cattle. -
10:20 - 10:22The point I want to make here is that
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10:22 - 10:27the Maasai homestead has a really
complex spacial and social structure, -
10:28 - 10:31and this structure
is very rich with meaning. -
10:31 - 10:36Unfortunately, in many modern
or current information systems -
10:36 - 10:41for registering land,
this rich meaning is lost. -
10:42 - 10:45The focus is more on parcels,
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10:45 - 10:47the way you do it here in Germany,
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10:47 - 10:50boundaries, and coordinates.
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10:53 - 10:57When we asked them the first time
to draw this maps for us, we asked them, -
10:57 - 11:00those were the stupid questions
in the first interview, -
11:00 - 11:02it was like could you draw
a map of your land? -
11:03 - 11:06And the guys were like:
What the hell are you talking about? -
11:09 - 11:11After we came back from the trip,
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11:11 - 11:13I also asked myself the same question.
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11:13 - 11:16What is the purpose of that drawings
that we are looking for? -
11:16 - 11:18Obviously, we have to change our strategy.
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11:20 - 11:24We spent about four month here
and then went right back. -
11:25 - 11:28This time we had organized
special workshops; -
11:28 - 11:30we actually organized things
ahead of time. -
11:30 - 11:33We had workshops for men,
workshops for women, -
11:33 - 11:36and during the discussions
people talked about -
11:36 - 11:38what I thought were
important things for them; -
11:38 - 11:43for example, how do we preserve
our water resources, -
11:43 - 11:48or where are the wild animals
usually found. -
11:49 - 11:52What are the locations
of important species of trees, -
11:53 - 11:54or other kinds of vegetation?
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11:55 - 11:59Something we learned during the time,
during the discussion, was that -
11:59 - 12:02the elders seem to have
a certain special skill -
12:02 - 12:03to read the landscape.
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12:03 - 12:07For example, they will look,
they observe the vegetation -
12:07 - 12:10and then they go like
let's drill for water here. -
12:11 - 12:14Of course, the younger men
don't quite understand it -
12:14 - 12:16I guess it only comes with experience.
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12:16 - 12:18But I thought that this
was a deep knowledge -
12:18 - 12:21and we wanted to capture that knowledge.
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12:21 - 12:23We wanted to get it in our maps.
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12:23 - 12:26So we also asked them to draw
some sketch maps for us. -
12:26 - 12:28For example, this is one map.
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12:28 - 12:30This was drawn by a group of women.
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12:30 - 12:34You see here some circles.
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12:34 - 12:36Those represent the homesteads.
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12:36 - 12:38You also see there are some mountains.
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12:38 - 12:42The map is quite detailed,
probably not very visible from here; -
12:42 - 12:45but where do we get the water,
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12:45 - 12:47where are the wild animals,
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12:47 - 12:49and all sorts of features;
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12:49 - 12:51where is the main river in our region.
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12:51 - 12:53And in the corners
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12:53 - 12:56there are little triangles which represent
the boundary of their ranch. -
12:56 - 12:59We are able to capture
very rich information -
12:59 - 13:03which you do not find in official records
together with the representation -
13:03 - 13:08of the official information
about the boundaries of their property. -
13:08 - 13:12We can put this boundaries
in relation to the features -
13:12 - 13:15that are important
for them in their lives. -
13:17 - 13:22We started off, we wanted to create
a small tool that digitizes maps, -
13:22 - 13:24maps of land, land parcels.
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13:24 - 13:26But in the process we learned
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13:26 - 13:28that it is not just about
a piece of ground. -
13:28 - 13:32It is about relationships
between people and their land, -
13:33 - 13:38which are often not as simple
or not compatible with the way -
13:38 - 13:43we look at land as the property you hold,
an individual title and it is mine. -
13:43 - 13:46And in the process also we learned
that for our technology to be relevant -
13:46 - 13:50we have to answer questions
that matter to the community -
13:50 - 13:52That is where we are at this journey
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13:52 - 13:57and its a journey really to bring
the land information and the power -
13:57 - 14:00of documenting land to the people.
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14:02 - 14:04What we have been able to do so far,
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14:04 - 14:07is with everything we learned,
with all the concepts we've gathered, -
14:07 - 14:10we have a software tool,
right now, or a prototype, -
14:10 - 14:13which is able to extract
meaningful digital objects -
14:13 - 14:14from this hand-drawn maps.
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14:14 - 14:16It looks like a bit of gibberish;
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14:16 - 14:18but those are the mountains,
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14:18 - 14:20the different homesteads and so on.
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14:20 - 14:23With this rich information
we can then integrate it -
14:23 - 14:27with existing maps, to create
new maps, new richer maps, -
14:27 - 14:31and new richer interactions
with the community generated data. -
14:32 - 14:35I must show this last picture
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14:35 - 14:38because it is sort of very special for me.
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14:38 - 14:43At the end of the last workshop, sort of
flipping of roles, the women called me -
14:43 - 14:47outside saying: "Hey, come!"
and I walked out and said: "What's up?" -
14:47 - 14:51So: "Stand here."`
They presented me with a gift. -
14:51 - 14:54It was a hand-beaded Maasai bracelet.
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14:54 - 14:56One of the women said: "I made this.
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14:56 - 14:58I thought it would be
a nice gift for you." -
14:58 - 14:59That was special.
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14:59 - 15:03For me it marked the end
of the beginning of this relationship. -
15:03 - 15:06which I hope it would be
a lasting relationship -
15:06 - 15:09with these very, very amazing people
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15:09 - 15:12who shared their time and knowledge
with us in Kajiado County -
15:12 - 15:14to which I am looking forward to go back.
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15:14 - 15:15Thank you.
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15:15 - 15:18(Applause)
- Title:
- Experiencing a different culture of land: lessons of a technologist | Malumbo Chipofya | TEDxMünster
- Description:
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Malumbo Chipofya is a geo-scientist from Malawi and is currently member of a research team at Muenster University. He dedicates his work to land mapping in Eastern Africa, where land registration is still a rare exception. But land mapping can lead to actual land loss, is one of his observations, if the land holders’ culture and way of life are not being taken into account. Malumbo and his team went to Kenya to observe and learn. They fused the Maasai’s traditional knowledge and their own digital tools to create more useful geographic data. In many regions of Africa, land, property lines, and tenure are still unsettled which puts especially nomadic people at risk of losing their way of life. Researching at the University of Muenster, Malawian computer scientist Malumbo Chipofya has collaborated on building software that can resolve these issues. However, when he and his colleagues traveled to Kenya to demonstrate their software, they received a surprise: people laughed. And Malumbo Chipofya learned a lot about cultural differences.
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- Duration:
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Ellen
18/01/2017
English transcript edited
8:20 the -> they subtitle
12:56 wherever -> we are able to
13:49: were -> where