What happens when you have a disease doctors can't diagnose
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0:05 - 0:07Hi.
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0:08 - 0:09Thank you.
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0:09 - 0:11[Jennifer Brea is sound-sensitive.
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0:11 - 0:14The live audience was asked
to applaud ASL-style, in silence.] -
0:14 - 0:17So, five years ago, this was me.
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0:18 - 0:20I was a PhD student at Harvard,
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0:20 - 0:22and I loved to travel.
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0:22 - 0:26I had just gotten engaged
to marry the love of my life. -
0:27 - 0:31I was 28, and like so many of us
when we are in good health, -
0:31 - 0:33I felt like I was invincible.
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0:34 - 0:38Then one day I had
a fever of 104.7 degrees. -
0:39 - 0:41I probably should have gone to the doctor,
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0:41 - 0:43but I'd never really been sick in my life,
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0:43 - 0:46and I knew that usually,
if you have a virus, -
0:46 - 0:49you stay home and you make
some chicken soup, -
0:49 - 0:51and in a few days,
everything will be fine. -
0:52 - 0:54But this time it wasn't fine.
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0:56 - 0:57After the fever broke,
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0:57 - 1:01for three weeks I was so dizzy,
I couldn't leave my house. -
1:01 - 1:04I would walk straight into door frames.
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1:04 - 1:07I had to hug the walls
just to make it to the bathroom. -
1:09 - 1:11That spring I got infection
after infection, -
1:12 - 1:14and every time I went to the doctor,
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1:14 - 1:16he said there was absolutely
nothing wrong. -
1:18 - 1:19He had his laboratory tests,
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1:19 - 1:21which always came back normal.
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1:22 - 1:24All I had were my symptoms,
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1:24 - 1:26which I could describe,
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1:26 - 1:28but no one else can see.
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1:29 - 1:31I know it sounds silly,
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1:31 - 1:34but you have to find a way
to explain things like this to yourself, -
1:34 - 1:38and so I thought maybe I was just aging.
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1:38 - 1:42Maybe this is what it's like
to be on the other side of 25. -
1:42 - 1:44(Laughter)
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1:45 - 1:47Then the neurological symptoms started.
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1:48 - 1:51Sometimes I would find that I couldn't
draw the right side of a circle. -
1:52 - 1:56Other times I wouldn't be able
to speak or move at all. -
1:58 - 2:00I saw every kind of specialist:
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2:00 - 2:03infectious disease doctors,
dermatologists, endocrinologists, -
2:03 - 2:04cardiologists.
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2:05 - 2:07I even saw a psychiatrist.
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2:08 - 2:11My psychiatrist said,
"It's clear you're really sick, -
2:11 - 2:13but not with anything psychiatric.
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2:14 - 2:17I hope they can find out
what's wrong with you." -
2:18 - 2:22The next day, my neurologist
diagnosed with me conversion disorder. -
2:23 - 2:25He told me that everything --
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2:25 - 2:28the fevers, the sore throats,
the sinus infection, -
2:29 - 2:32all of the gastrointestinal,
neurological and cardiac symptoms -- -
2:33 - 2:35were being caused
by some distant emotional trauma -
2:35 - 2:37that I could not remember.
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2:38 - 2:40The symptoms were real, he said,
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2:41 - 2:43but they had no biological cause.
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2:45 - 2:47I was training to be a social scientist.
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2:47 - 2:50I had studied statistics,
probability theory, -
2:50 - 2:53mathematical modeling,
experimental design. -
2:55 - 2:59I felt like I couldn't just reject
my neurologist's diagnosis. -
3:00 - 3:01It didn't feel true,
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3:01 - 3:05but I knew from my training
that the truth is often counterintuitive, -
3:05 - 3:08so easily obscured
by what we want to believe. -
3:09 - 3:11So I had to consider the possibility
that he was right. -
3:14 - 3:16That day, I ran a small experiment.
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3:17 - 3:20I walked back the two miles
from my neurologist's office to my house, -
3:21 - 3:25my legs wrapped in this strange,
almost electric kind of pain. -
3:26 - 3:28I meditated on that pain,
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3:28 - 3:32contemplating how my mind
could have possibly generated all this. -
3:33 - 3:35As soon as I walked through the door,
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3:35 - 3:36I collapsed.
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3:37 - 3:40My brain and my spinal cord were burning.
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3:41 - 3:44My neck was so stiff
I couldn't touch my chin to my chest, -
3:45 - 3:47and the slightest sound --
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3:47 - 3:49the rustling of the sheets,
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3:49 - 3:51my husband walking barefoot
in the next room -- -
3:52 - 3:54could cause excruciating pain.
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3:56 - 3:58I would spend most
of the next two years in bed. -
3:59 - 4:02How could my doctor
have gotten it so wrong? -
4:03 - 4:05I thought I had a rare disease,
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4:05 - 4:07something doctors had never seen.
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4:08 - 4:09And then I went online
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4:09 - 4:12and found thousands of people
all over the world -
4:12 - 4:14living with the same symptoms,
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4:14 - 4:16similarly isolated,
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4:16 - 4:17similarly disbelieved.
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4:18 - 4:19Some could still work,
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4:19 - 4:22but had to spend their evenings
and weekends in bed, -
4:22 - 4:24just so they could show up
the next Monday. -
4:24 - 4:26On the other end of the spectrum,
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4:26 - 4:28some were so sick
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4:28 - 4:31they had to live in complete darkness,
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4:31 - 4:34unable to tolerate
the sound of a human voice -
4:34 - 4:36or the touch of a loved one.
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4:37 - 4:41I was diagnosed
with myalgic encephalomyelitis. -
4:43 - 4:46You've probably heard it called
"chronic fatigue syndrome." -
4:47 - 4:49For decades, that's a name
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4:49 - 4:51that's meant that this
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4:52 - 4:53has been the dominant image
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4:53 - 4:56of a disease that can be
as serious as this. -
4:57 - 4:59The key symptom we all share
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4:59 - 5:03is that whenever we exert ourselves --
physically, mentally -- -
5:03 - 5:05we pay and we pay hard.
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5:06 - 5:09If my husband goes for a run,
he might be sore for a couple of days. -
5:09 - 5:13If I try to walk half a block,
I might be bedridden for a week. -
5:13 - 5:16It is a perfect custom prison.
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5:16 - 5:19I know ballet dancers who can't dance,
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5:19 - 5:21accountants who can't add,
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5:21 - 5:24medical students who never became doctors.
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5:24 - 5:27It doesn't matter what you once were;
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5:27 - 5:29you can't do it anymore.
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5:29 - 5:31It's been four years,
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5:31 - 5:34and I've still never been as well as I was
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5:34 - 5:37the minute before I walked home
from my neurologist's office. -
5:39 - 5:42It's estimated that about 15 to 30 million
people around the world -
5:42 - 5:43have this disease.
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5:44 - 5:47In the US, where I'm from,
it's about one million people. -
5:47 - 5:51That makes it roughly twice as common
as multiple sclerosis. -
5:52 - 5:55Patients can live for decades
with the physical function -
5:55 - 5:57of someone with congestive heart failure.
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5:57 - 6:00Twenty-five percent of us
are homebound or bedridden, -
6:01 - 6:05and 75 to 85 percent of us
can't even work part-time. -
6:05 - 6:07Yet doctors do not treat us
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6:08 - 6:10and science does not study us.
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6:11 - 6:15How could a disease this common
and this devastating -
6:15 - 6:17have been forgotten by medicine?
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6:19 - 6:22When my doctor diagnosed me
with conversion disorder, -
6:22 - 6:24he was invoking a lineage
of ideas about women's bodies -
6:25 - 6:27that are over 2,500 years old.
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6:27 - 6:29The Roman physician Galen thought
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6:29 - 6:32that hysteria was caused
by sexual deprivation -
6:32 - 6:34in particularly passionate women.
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6:35 - 6:38The Greeks thought the uterus
would literally dry up -
6:38 - 6:40and wander around the body
in search of moisture, -
6:40 - 6:42pressing on internal organs --
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6:42 - 6:43yes --
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6:45 - 6:47causing symptoms from extreme emotions
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6:47 - 6:50to dizziness and paralysis.
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6:51 - 6:53The cure was marriage and motherhood.
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6:55 - 6:59These ideas went largely unchanged
for several millennia until the 1880s, -
6:59 - 7:03when neurologists tried to modernize
the theory of hysteria. -
7:04 - 7:05Sigmund Freud developed a theory
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7:05 - 7:08that the unconscious mind
could produce physical symptoms -
7:08 - 7:10when dealing with memories or emotions
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7:10 - 7:13too painful for the conscious
mind to handle. -
7:13 - 7:16It converted these emotions
into physical symptoms. -
7:17 - 7:20This meant that men
could now get hysteria, -
7:20 - 7:22but of course women were still
the most susceptible. -
7:23 - 7:27When I began investigating
the history of my own disease, -
7:27 - 7:30I was amazed to find how deep
these ideas still run. -
7:31 - 7:32In 1934,
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7:32 - 7:37198 doctors, nurses and staff
at the Los Angeles County General Hospital -
7:37 - 7:39became seriously ill.
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7:39 - 7:43They had muscle weakness, stiffness
in the neck and back, fevers -- -
7:43 - 7:46all of the same symptoms
I had when I first got diagnosed. -
7:47 - 7:49Doctors thought
it was a new form of polio. -
7:50 - 7:53Since then, there have been more
than 70 outbreaks documented -
7:53 - 7:54around the world,
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7:54 - 7:57of a strikingly similar
post-infectious disease. -
7:57 - 8:01All of these outbreaks have tended
to disproportionately affect women, -
8:01 - 8:05and in time, when doctors failed to find
the one cause of the disease, -
8:05 - 8:09they thought that these outbreaks
were mass hysteria. -
8:09 - 8:12Why has this idea had such staying power?
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8:14 - 8:15I do think it has to do with sexism,
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8:15 - 8:19but I also think that fundamentally,
doctors want to help. -
8:19 - 8:21They want to know the answer,
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8:21 - 8:26and this category allows doctors to treat
what would otherwise be untreatable, -
8:26 - 8:28to explain illnesses
that have no explanation. -
8:29 - 8:32The problem is that this
can cause real harm. -
8:32 - 8:36In the 1950s, a psychiatrist
named Eliot Slater -
8:36 - 8:40studied a cohort of 85 patients
who had been diagnosed with hysteria. -
8:41 - 8:45Nine years later, 12 of them were dead
and 30 had become disabled. -
8:45 - 8:48Many had undiagnosed conditions
like multiple sclerosis, -
8:48 - 8:50epilepsy, brain tumors.
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8:51 - 8:55In 1980, hysteria was officially
renamed "conversion disorder." -
8:56 - 8:59When my neurologist gave me
that diagnosis in 2012, -
8:59 - 9:02he was echoing Freud's words verbatim,
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9:02 - 9:03and even today,
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9:03 - 9:07women are 2 to 10 times more likely
to receive that diagnosis. -
9:08 - 9:12The problem with the theory of hysteria
or psychogenic illness -
9:13 - 9:15is that it can never be proven.
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9:15 - 9:17It is by definition
the absence of evidence, -
9:18 - 9:20and in the case of ME,
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9:20 - 9:24psychological explanations
have held back biological research. -
9:24 - 9:27All around the world, ME is one
of the least funded diseases. -
9:27 - 9:34In the US, we spend each year
roughly 2,500 dollars per AIDS patient, -
9:35 - 9:38250 dollars per MS patient
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9:38 - 9:41and just 5 dollars per year
per ME patient. -
9:42 - 9:44This was not just lightning.
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9:44 - 9:46I was not just unlucky.
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9:46 - 9:50The ignorance surrounding my disease
has been a choice, -
9:50 - 9:54a choice made by the institutions
that were supposed to protect us. -
9:56 - 9:58We don't know why ME
sometimes runs in families, -
9:58 - 10:01why you can get it
after almost any infection, -
10:01 - 10:05from enteroviruses
to Epstein-Barr virus to Q fever, -
10:05 - 10:08or why it affects women
at two to three times the rate of men. -
10:09 - 10:12This issue is much bigger
than just my disease. -
10:12 - 10:14When I first got sick,
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10:14 - 10:16old friends were reaching out to me.
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10:16 - 10:19I soon found myself a part
of a cohort of women in their late 20s -
10:19 - 10:21whose bodies were falling apart.
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10:22 - 10:25What was striking was just how
much trouble we were having -
10:25 - 10:26being taken seriously.
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10:27 - 10:29I learned of one woman with scleroderma,
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10:29 - 10:31an autoimmune connective tissue disease,
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10:31 - 10:33who was told for years
that it was all in her head. -
10:33 - 10:36Between the time of onset and diagnosis,
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10:36 - 10:38her esophagus was so thoroughly damaged,
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10:38 - 10:41she will never be able to eat again.
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10:41 - 10:43Another woman with ovarian cancer,
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10:43 - 10:46who for years was told
that it was just early menopause. -
10:47 - 10:49A friend from college,
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10:49 - 10:53whose brain tumor was misdiagnosed
for years as anxiety. -
10:54 - 10:56Here's why this worries me:
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10:57 - 11:01since the 1950s, rates of many
autoimmune diseases -
11:01 - 11:02have doubled to tripled.
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11:03 - 11:06Forty-five percent of patients
who are eventually diagnosed -
11:06 - 11:08with a recognized autoimmune disease
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11:08 - 11:10are initially told they're hypochondriacs.
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11:11 - 11:14Like the hysteria of old,
this has everything to do with gender -
11:14 - 11:16and with whose stories we believe.
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11:17 - 11:21Seventy-five percent
of autoimmune disease patients are women, -
11:21 - 11:24and in some diseases,
it's as high as 90 percent. -
11:25 - 11:28Even though these diseases
disproportionately affect women, -
11:28 - 11:30they are not women's diseases.
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11:30 - 11:33ME affects children
and ME affects millions of men. -
11:33 - 11:35And as one patient told me,
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11:35 - 11:37we get it coming and going --
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11:37 - 11:40if you're a woman, you're told
you're exaggerating your symptoms, -
11:40 - 11:44but if you're a guy, you're told
to be strong, to buck up. -
11:45 - 11:49And men may even have
a more difficult time getting diagnosed. -
11:57 - 12:00My brain is not what it used to be.
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12:14 - 12:15Here's the good part:
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12:17 - 12:19despite everything, I still have hope.
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12:20 - 12:24So many diseases were once
thought of as psychological -
12:24 - 12:27until science uncovered
their biological mechanisms. -
12:27 - 12:30Patients with epilepsy
could be forcibly institutionalized -
12:30 - 12:35until the EEG was able to measure
abnormal electrical activity in the brain. -
12:36 - 12:40Multiple sclerosis could be misdiagnosed
as hysterical paralysis -
12:40 - 12:43until the CAT scan and the MRI
discovered brain lesions. -
12:44 - 12:45And recently, we used to think
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12:45 - 12:48that stomach ulcers
were just caused by stress, -
12:48 - 12:52until we discovered
that H. pylori was the culprit. -
12:53 - 12:56ME has never benefited
from the kind of science -
12:56 - 12:58that other diseases have had,
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12:58 - 13:00but that's starting to change.
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13:01 - 13:04In Germany, scientists are starting
to find evidence of autoimmunity, -
13:04 - 13:07and in Japan, of brain inflammation.
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13:07 - 13:10In the US, scientists at Stanford
are finding abnormalities -
13:10 - 13:12in energy metabolism
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13:12 - 13:16that are 16 standard deviations
away from normal. -
13:17 - 13:21And in Norway, researchers
are running a phase-3 clinical trial -
13:21 - 13:24on a cancer drug that in some patients
causes complete remission. -
13:26 - 13:27What also gives me hope
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13:28 - 13:30is the resilience of patients.
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13:32 - 13:34Online we came together,
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13:34 - 13:36and we shared our stories.
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13:37 - 13:40We devoured what research there was.
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13:41 - 13:43We experimented on ourselves.
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13:43 - 13:46We became our own scientists
and our own doctors -
13:46 - 13:47because we had to be.
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13:48 - 13:52And slowly I added five percent here,
five percent there, -
13:52 - 13:54until eventually, on a good day,
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13:54 - 13:56I was able to leave my home.
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13:58 - 14:00I still had to make ridiculous choices:
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14:01 - 14:04Will I sit in the garden for 15 minutes,
or will I wash my hair today? -
14:05 - 14:07But it gave me hope
that I could be treated. -
14:08 - 14:10I had a sick body; that was all.
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14:11 - 14:15And with the right kind of help,
maybe one day I could get better. -
14:16 - 14:19I came together with patients
around the world, -
14:19 - 14:21and we started to fight.
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14:22 - 14:25We have filled the void
with something wonderful, -
14:26 - 14:27but it is not enough.
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14:29 - 14:33I still don't know if I will ever
be able to run again, -
14:33 - 14:35or walk at any distance,
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14:35 - 14:39or do any of those kinetic things
that I now only get to do in my dreams. -
14:39 - 14:42But I am so grateful
for how far I have come. -
14:44 - 14:45Progress is slow,
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14:45 - 14:47and it is up
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14:47 - 14:49and it is down,
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14:49 - 14:52but I am getting a little better each day.
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14:54 - 14:58I remember what it was like
when I was stuck in that bedroom, -
14:59 - 15:01when it had been months
since I had seen the sun. -
15:03 - 15:05I thought that I would die there.
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15:07 - 15:09But here I am today,
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15:09 - 15:11with you,
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15:12 - 15:14and that is a miracle.
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15:17 - 15:20I don't know what would have happened
had I not been one of the lucky ones, -
15:20 - 15:23had I gotten sick before the internet,
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15:23 - 15:25had I not found my community.
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15:26 - 15:29I probably would have already
taken my own life, -
15:29 - 15:31as so many others have done.
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15:32 - 15:35How many lives could
we have saved, decades ago, -
15:36 - 15:38if we had asked the right questions?
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15:39 - 15:41How many lives could we save today
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15:42 - 15:44if we decide to make a real start?
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15:45 - 15:48Even once the true cause
of my disease is discovered, -
15:49 - 15:52if we don't change
our institutions and our culture, -
15:52 - 15:55we will do this again to another disease.
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15:56 - 15:58Living with this illness has taught me
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15:58 - 16:01that science and medicine
are profoundly human endeavors. -
16:01 - 16:04Doctors, scientists and policy makers
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16:04 - 16:07are not immune to the same biases
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16:08 - 16:09that affect all of us.
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16:11 - 16:14We need to think in more nuanced ways
about women's health. -
16:15 - 16:19Our immune systems are just as much
a battleground for equality -
16:19 - 16:21as the rest of our bodies.
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16:21 - 16:24We need to listen to patients' stories,
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16:25 - 16:27and we need to be willing
to say, "I don't know." -
16:28 - 16:30"I don't know" is a beautiful thing.
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16:31 - 16:34"I don't know" is where discovery starts.
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16:35 - 16:37And if we can do that,
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16:37 - 16:41if we can approach the great vastness
of all that we do not know, -
16:41 - 16:43and then, rather than fear uncertainty,
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16:43 - 16:46maybe we can greet it
with a sense of wonder. -
16:46 - 16:48Thank you.
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16:52 - 16:53Thank you.
- Title:
- What happens when you have a disease doctors can't diagnose
- Speaker:
- Jen Brea
- Description:
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Five years ago, TED Fellow Jen Brea became progressively ill with myalgic encephalomyelitis, commonly known as chronic fatigue syndrome, a debilitating illness that severely impairs normal activities and on bad days makes even the rustling of bed sheets unbearable. In this poignant talk, Brea describes the obstacles she's encountered in seeking treatment for her condition, whose root causes and physical effects we don't fully understand, as well as her mission to document through film the lives of patients that medicine struggles to understand and treat.
- Video Language:
- English
- Team:
closed TED
- Project:
- TEDTalks
- Duration:
- 17:43
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Annika Bidner
Hello, I wonder about one thing in the description of the talk. Does she really mention "her mission to document through film the lives of patients that medicine struggles to treat"? I know she talked about it live but it doesn't seem to be included in this version of the talk.
Ben HsuBorger
Annika,
At the time this talk was recorded Jen's documentary film had not yet been finished or the title finalized. Now it has. See http://www.unrest.film/
More can also be found at Jen's personal website which is linked to from the TED talk page. http://www.jenniferbrea.com/
Riaki Ponist
Hi Ben, I think Annika's question is about the text on Jen's mission not being part of what was spoken in the actual talk, as usually the description should summarise the talk itself, though essentially it's up to the editorial team and your organisation.