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Hello, my name is Paul Minors.
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Welcome back to another one
of my Asana training videos.
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Over the last few years, I've been
very fortunate to have worked with
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hundreds of different businesses
and different Asana users.
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And what I'm going to show you today are
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the most common mistakes that
we see coming up again and again.
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This video is actually a remake from
a video I made a couple of years ago,
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and I wanted to update it with an even bigger
list of some of the common mistakes that we see.
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If you have any questions,
feel free to leave me a comment below,
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and if you would like one-on-one
help with setting up your Asana account,
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learning how to take advantage
of all the different features,
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training and onboarding your team,
then click the link in the description below
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to learn more about
my Asana consulting options.
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Now the first and maybe
one of the biggest mistakes
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that I see people making in Asana,
is not using the My Tasks page.
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The My Tasks page
you will find here on the sidebar,
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this is the page that shows
you everything assigned to you
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from all of the different tasks, subtasks
and projects that you're working in.
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Basically, if a task or a subtask
is assigned to you,
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if it has your name on it like this, then
it's going to show up on this My Tasks page.
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Now the mistake that we see
a lot of people make is
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instead of using and working from
this screen throughout the day,
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we see a lot of people clicking
through all of their projects
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to go and find their work.
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They look for anything
with their name on it.
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Or, maybe they actually even
create a project for their own tasks
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and I'll actually come
back to that in a sec.
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So you spend a lot of time hunting around
just trying to find your work.
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But the best practice in Asana is
to use and work from the My Tasks page.
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I have separate videos all about how to use
this screen to give you a brief overview.
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You can see what I've done here is,
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I have some sections to
show what I'm working on today.
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I can see what I have
coming up later this week,
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and then even some tasks that are starting
to populate my next week section here.
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I've even got some rules
that help me to automatically move
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tasks through these sections
as the due dates fall due.
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But go and check out my other videos
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to learn more about
how to use this My Tasks page.
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Okay.
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The next mistake we see people making a lot
is assigning too many tasks to yourself
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including non-tasks, or really
things that shouldn't be in Asana,
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for example, articles or books
you might want to read.
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I think a lot of that type of thing
can clutter up Asana quite a lot.
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So here's an example in my demo account.
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You can see this is looking really messy.
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I've got loads of stuff jammed into
my Recently Assigned section.
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My Today section is full.
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There's a lot of things
that are overdue here.
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I'll come back to that.
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But really the volume of work is too much.
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And this happens a lot with new users
because what I find tends to happen is
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when you get started with Asana,
you're really excited so you jump in,
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you create loads of projects and loads of
tasks for everything that you need to do,
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which is great in theory except that now you
have all these tasks on your My Tasks page,
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and you quickly start to feel overwhelmed
and just drown in the volume of work.
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Now there are a couple of ways
you could manage this slightly better.
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One is as I showed you before
on the My Tasks page, you could use sections
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like I've done, Today, This week, Next week,
and even I have Later down here.
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And you move tasks into the various sections
to hide them.
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So I actually, when I'm working
in Asana on a daily basis,
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often don't even look at
This week and Next week.
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I put tasks into This week and Next week
obviously based on the due date.
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You can see I have here
tasks due tomorrow and Friday.
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Anything due more than a week away,
you can see I have quite a lot in here,
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I hide in this Later section.
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And so that helps me to keep
my My Tasks page
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really nice and clean
and minimal and organized.
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And it really helps me to focus on
only what I have to do today.
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Another option is and this is
where you might want to think about
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and have a conversation with your team
about how you're going to manage the work,
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but another thing we see
clients do sometimes is,
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only assigning tasks to yourself
when they fall due.
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So what I could do here is
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with some of these tasks that
are occurring later on in the project
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I might actually leave
this unassigned for now,
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and then only assign this when
the task is now ready to be worked on.
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So we move through the project in phases
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and assign blocks of tasks
when it's time to work on them.
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That's going to make it
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so that people are less overwhelmed with
a huge volume of tasks on their task list.
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I would also caution you
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to not use Asana for things that
aren't task based or task related.
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I've seen clients do funny things where
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they put things like articles or even emails
that they want to respond to into Asana
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as a way of trying to collect
everything in one place.
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And again the intention is there, it's good.
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it's "I want to have
everything in one place,"
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but then Asana is full of not just
tasks which you need to work on
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but also articles that
you may or may not read someday,
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or an email that you need to respond to,
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and I would argue that those types of
things really don't belong in Asana.
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The next very common and very big mistake
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that we see people making,
is not checking the Inbox
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and really not dealing with
the notifications correctly.
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So the Inbox in Asana
up here on the sidebar,
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this is where you get notified
about all tasks
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that you are a collaborator on
down here at the bottom.
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So anything I'm a collaborator on
I'm getting notified about,
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whether it's a task like this
where the due date has changed,
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or maybe a task that's being completed
like this one,
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or if somebody is commenting on a task,
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I'm getting notified about anything
that I'm a collaborator on.
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Now the mistake we see people make is,
number one, not checking this Inbox enough.
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If you don't check the Inbox, this is where
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important updates and just work in general
slips through the cracks.
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You end up in a situation
where somebody says
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"Hey Paul, you know, you never gave
me feedback on that task" and I say
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"Oh, I didn't even see, it's probably
because I wasn't checking the Inbox."
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So the first best practice is to be
checking the Inbox a couple of times a day.
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You'll actually see there'll be
a little orange dot up here
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when there's a new notification
in the Inbox.
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Checking it regularly is going to mean
that you're more up to date with
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the task updates, comments, and questions
that teammates are sharing with you.
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And then the next best practice is
to archive the notifications as you go.
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So you can click
this little archive button here.
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Once you've dealt with a notification,
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you've either looked at it
or you've responded with it,
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you click that archive button.
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I'm going to go ahead and archive all,
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but this is the screen we want to get to
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on a daily basis, which is Inbox zero.
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This means that I've dealt with
all of my notifications
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and I'm completely up to date.
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I would also recommend if you
are working from the Inbox as I suggest,
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managing your notifications
and turning off email updates
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for activity updates and maybe
even mentions and summaries.
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You don't really need the email notifications
if you are checking this Inbox regularly.
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Another mistake we see from time to time
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is leaving tasks open
and not completing them.
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So not using the Mark as complete button
up here or checking the tick here.
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When I ask clients about this
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the excuse or reason people often
give me is they'll say something like
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"Well, I did the work
but I didn't want to lose the task."
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You know, "I still wanted to chat
with the person who assigned it to me.
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I wanted to get some feedback before I was
confident in fully completing the work,
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and so I left it open."
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So again, I understand the intention
it's there, it's good,
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but the better way to manage a situation
like this is mark the task as complete.
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As the assignee, that's your responsibility.
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Sometimes people feel like
"Am I allowed to complete the task?"
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if they're not the one that actually
created it or assigned it in the first place.
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There's often a bit of hesitation
about being able to complete it,
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but in my view as the assignee,
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it's your responsibility
to actually complete the task.
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The assignor,
the person who gave you the task,
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they will get notified in their Inbox
that you've completed it.
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They can then review the work.
They can go back with any questions.
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They could even reopen the task
if they're not satisfied
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and there's something else
that still needs to be done.
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But you completing the task
in the first place,
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sends a clear signal that you're
saying this is now done.
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Another common mistake
along the same lines is
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changing the assignee back
and forth as the work changes.
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So what we see from time to time is,
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maybe somebody assigns me a task,
so they put my name on it up here,
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and then when I'm finished with the task,
when I think that I've done the work
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I then change it back to the person
that assigned it to me.
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And yes, the intention there is,
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you're saying "I've done the work
so I'm going to assign it back"
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because they now need to check the task.
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The issue with doing this though
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is that you lose visibility of
who's responsible for this task.
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If you assign the task back and forth,
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it's very easy to get into a situation where
maybe it isn't assigned to the right person
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because you've assigned it
to the person that assigned it to you
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you've assigned it back and they actually
want you to go and change something else.
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But they forget to assign it back to you.
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So the whole assigning back and forth
thing I think just opens up a can of worms
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and it creates a lot of
opportunity for human error
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to result in the task just
falling through the cracks.
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Again, the best practice is,
leave the task assigned to the person
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who is ultimately responsible
for doing the work.
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When that person is finished, they mark
it as complete like I mentioned before,
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and the original assignor can then
jump in with any comments, questions,
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or feedback, or again, they can simply
reopen the task if they need to.
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Another very common mistake I see
all the time is leaving tasks overdue.
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So this happens where you've got
a bunch of tasks assigned to you,
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let's collapse that in my Today section,
I had the intention to do this work
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but for whatever reason
I didn't get it done that day.
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That's fine, you know, stuff happens,
emergencies come up,
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so we can't always get
all of our tasks done.
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But leaving the tasks here on your
My Tasks with the red overdue dates
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I think is just just results
in the tasks building up over time
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this task list gets very messy,
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and it very quickly leads you to feeling
quite overwhelmed by all your work.
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I think a better way to deal
with overdue tasks is,
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instead of leaving them overdue like this,
at the end of the day,
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and you should make this part of your
shutdown routine at the end of the day,
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is I look at anything
that I have left on my task list
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that I just didn't have time for,
and I change the due date.
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So I'll say "Okay,
let me do this maybe tomorrow"
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or maybe "I'll come back to it on Monday,"
and I change the date.
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And then I'll sort it accordingly.
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So if it's next week maybe
I'll put it into my upcoming
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and then I've got rules that will automatically
move it into today when it's due.
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So the long and short of it is
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don't let it go overdue
or don't leave it overdue.
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Update the due date to reflect
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when are you actually going
to come back and work on it again.
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That way, you can avoid having
this massive list of overdue tasks,
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and you've actually now got a clear plan of
when you're going to come back to it later.
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The next common mistake we see all the time
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and this is the reason a lot of clients
reach out to us in the first place,
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is that maybe as the owner of the business,
they have dumped Asana on their team
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without any really formal
introduction or training.
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This is a mistake that's not
unique particularly to Asana,
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but with a lot of tools and apps
that different businesses choose to use,
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is the business owner says "Right,
we're going to use this tool" like Asana
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and they leave it up to their team
to figure out how to use it
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"let's just work it out as a team".
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And what we tend to find happen is
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you'll see some people are good at figuring
it out because they're quite tech savvy,
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but inevitably there are people
on the team who aren't very tech savvy,
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who can't figure it out on their own
and need a little bit more help.
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So you end up with this kind of
half adoption half usage of Asana,
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where some people use it other people don't
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but the people that don't are
dragging down the entire team.
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So what we recommend and this is part
of the service that we provide is
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thinking about why are we using
Asana in the first place,
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and actually talking to your team
and saying this is why we're using Asana,
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here are the problems we think it's going
to solve,
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and how we expect everyone to use it.
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If you need help with training
and onboarding your team,
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then check out the Master Asana
program on my website
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which lets you book private 1:1 consulting
sessions with experts on my team.
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You get access to weekly
group coaching calls,
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and you even get access to a full
online course that I've developed
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that guides you through how to build
out your Asana account,
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how to plan your Asana role out,
and how to train your team correctly.
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Something else we recommend when
rolling out Asana to your team is
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identifying an Asana Champion
or what I call the Chief Asana Officer,
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basically somebody on your team
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who's ultimately going to be responsible
for Asana's rollout and adoption.
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Unless you have somebody
that's ultimately responsible for,
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it we find that everyone tends
to use it in their own different way,
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and so the purpose of having
that Asana Champion is
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they're someone that can help
to train and onboard new employees
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and there's someone that can work
with different team members and departments
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to make sure we're
all using it consistently.
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Another common mistake we see, and this is
the result of not using the My Tasks page
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that I talked about at the beginning,
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is creating a private project for your work
instead of using that My Tasks page.
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So because people often don't
understand how to use this My Tasks page,
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what they do is they'll
create a project a bit like this,
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where they say, you know, "Paul's tasks".
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And then what they do is they create
their own task list in this project.
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But you don't actually need to do this
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because the My Tasks page
is like your own private project.
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If I create a task directly
on here so "This is a task".
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If I don't put this in a project,
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this is just going to be private
to me, nobody else can see this.
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I can also choose to view My
Tasks as a list like this,
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or I can use the board layout,
or even the calendar view.
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So this is in a sense
my own private project
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and creating your own private project like this
separately is sort of a waste of time.
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The next mistake we see all the time is
people not using due dates.
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This one is really confusing to me
because putting a due date on a task is
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one of the most important bits
of information about the task.
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You know, a task should tell you
what you need to do,
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who's doing it, and when is it due.
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When I'm working with a client and I ask
"Why didn't you put a due date on that?"
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the reason people often give me
is they'll say something like
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"Well, it didn't really have a strict deadline.
it's just something we need to do soon."
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In situations like that I actually recommend
still putting a due date on the task.
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Even if it doesn't have a strict
or hard deadline that you need to hit,
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it's still good to use the due date
as a way of setting your intention,
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and saying "I'd like to do this by Friday".
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Even if you end up changing the due
date and pushing it back to next week
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because other more important work comes up,
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it's still better and it's a more effective
way of working to have a due date
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that you maybe even change later,
versus having no due date at all.
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The issue with having no
due date on a task is,
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you might find that lots and lots of tasks
that which none of them have any due dates,
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all build up and there's no sense
of urgency or way of prioritizing the work,
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whereas if you use put some kind
of due date on the task and say
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"I'll do this one today, this
one tomorrow, this one Friday,"
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again even if that changes later,
that's going to be more efficient,
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more effective compared to not putting
any due date on the task at all.
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The next mistake we see coming up
a lot is when people are too vague with
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task details and really just not
providing enough information about a task.
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So an example of that might be
simply having a very vague task name
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maybe not even putting
an assignee or a due date on
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and not elaborating here in the description
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or not including things like attachments
and documents that are relevant.
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You want to really be thinking about
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when you assign a task how is
the other person going to know what to do.
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"Am I providing enough information
so that when they click on this task,
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are they going to know what to do
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without having to come back to me
and ask lots and lots of questions?"
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So here's an example,
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this is a task that I assign
to my virtual assistant Judy.
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It says exactly what she needs
to do "Create WordPress post".
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And she can see it's a subtask
of this earlier video that I made.
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And I've actually included a big old
checklist of everything she needs to do.
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So this is how I use Asana
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to store
standard operating procedures or SOPs.
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You can check out my video on this
and how I use templates for SOPs.
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You can click the video up here.
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So you can see from
Judy's point of view,
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when she receives this task,
she knows what she needs to do.
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She can click back to the parent task
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and she can see what parent
her subtask is related to.
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And she's got this checklist here
of everything she needs to do.
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So hopefully, she can just do the task,
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she doesn't need to come back to me
and ask any clarifying questions.
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Okay, and finally the final mistake
we see a lot coming up with Asana users,
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is using too many channels
for communication.
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And what I mean by this is not just Asana,
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but also other tools and apps and services
that you use for communication.
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All tend to overlap quite a lot,
and there's not enough distinction
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about when to use different
tools and services.
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A common example might be
something like Slack.
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We work with a lot of clients
who use both Asana and Slack,
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and they're often because there's lots
of different ways we can communicate
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obviously we've got email as well.
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We often find there are conversations
happening in multiple different places
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and so the advice we often give is that
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you need to clearly define
when to use each tool.
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For example, with Asana we recommend
if you're talking about a task or a project
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which by default is probably
most of the conversations you're having
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should be task or project related.
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Then really that's a conversation
that should be happening inside Asana.
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And the benefit of doing that is then
we can keep the conversation
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linked with the actual
work that we're doing.
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So when I click on a task
I can see the conversation taking place.
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I don't have to go switching over to
Slack to go and find the conversation.
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But if I've got
some of the conversation in Asana,
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some of it's happening in Slack where
I've got different threads going,
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on maybe I've got a couple
of email threads going,
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I've now divided the conversation
up among multiple channels,
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and it's really hard to make sense of "where
are we at?" and "what do we need to do next?"
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So when you adopt a tool like Asana,
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because this is one more tool
that you can use to communicate in,
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you want to clearly define to your team
when do we use a sign of a communication,
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and how does it fit, and how do
we use it alongside other channels
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and other tools that we can
communicate in like Slack,
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email, instant messaging,
texting, and so on.
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And so there we go.
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Those are some of the common mistakes we see
people making again and again with Asana.
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As I mentioned before, if you have
any questions leave me a comment below.
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And if you would like one-on-one
help with setting up your account,
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training, and learning how to get the most
out of Asana and onboarding your team,
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then check out the link
in the description below
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to learn more about our
Asana consulting options.
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One more time,
thank you very much for listening,
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and I will catch you in the next video.