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How work kept me going during my cancer treatment

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    It was June 2014.
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    I was 30 years old,
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    and I received a call
    from my doctor's office
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    to say my test results were in.
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    So I walked up to see her
    in my lunch break, and my doctor said
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    she was very sorry to tell me
    that I had breast cancer.
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    I didn't want to believe her
    and at first, I didn't.
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    You see, I'm a lawyer
    and I needed some evidence.
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    So I'm very embarrassed to tell you all
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    that I stood up and I walked around
    to where she was sitting
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    so that I could look
    over her shoulder and verify
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    what was written
    on the page in front of her.
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    (Laughter)
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    Malignant carcinoma.
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    But still not wanting
    to believe it, I said,
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    "Now, malignant carcinoma,
    you're sure that means cancer?"
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    (Laughter)
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    She told me she was sure.
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    Back at work, I handed over
    the urgent things that needed to be done
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    while I was having more tests
    to see if my cancer had spread.
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    But at that moment,
    work wasn't my priority.
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    I was thinking about how I was going
    to tell my family and friends
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    that I had cancer.
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    How I was going to answer their questions
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    about how bad it was
    and whether I was going to be OK,
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    when I didn't know that myself.
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    I was wondering if my partner and I
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    would ever have an opportunity
    to start a family.
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    And I was figuring out
    how I was going to tell my mother,
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    who had herself had breast cancer
    when she was pregnant with me.
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    She would know how I was feeling
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    and have an idea of what lay ahead for me.
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    But I also didn't want her
    to have to relive her cancer experience.
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    What I didn't appreciate at the time
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    was that work was about to play
    a huge role in my treatment and recovery.
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    That it would be my coworkers and my job
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    that would make me feel valuable and human
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    at times when I would have
    otherwise felt like a statistic.
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    That it would be my job
    that would give me routine and stability
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    when I was dealing with so many
    difficult personal decisions
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    and so much uncertainty.
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    Like, what sort of breast
    reconstruction I was going to have.
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    And at a time like that,
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    you would think that I would turn
    to my family and friends for support.
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    And yes, of course I did that.
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    But it would ultimately be my colleagues
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    who would play a huge role
    in my day-to-day life.
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    And they would be
    the ones to make me laugh.
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    You see, we were a pretty close team,
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    and we shared a couple
    of really good in-jokes,
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    like this time they overheard
    someone ask me
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    how I got my hair so shiny and perfect --
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    without knowing that it was,
    of course, a wig,
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    and you know, it was a very good wig
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    and it did make getting ready
    in the mornings very easy.
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    (Laughter)
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    But in little moments like this,
    I appreciated what their support meant,
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    and I wondered what I would
    have done without that network.
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    I've spoken with so many people,
    women in particular,
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    who haven't had the chance
    to have that network
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    because they haven't been given
    the opportunity to work through treatment.
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    And there are several reasons for this.
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    But I think it mostly comes down
    to overly paternalistic employers.
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    These employers want you to go away
    and focus on yourself.
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    And come back when you're better.
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    And they use those kinds of phrases.
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    And while these responses
    are well-meaning,
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    knowing the benefits it brought me,
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    it makes me incredibly frustrated
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    when people are told
    that they couldn’t or shouldn't work,
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    when it's something that they want to do
    and physically can do.
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    So I started to look into
    what an employer is required to do
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    when someone presents
    with a cancer diagnosis.
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    I discovered that under Australian law,
    cancer is considered a disability.
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    So if you are unable to perform
    your usual work duties,
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    your employer is obligated
    by the Disability Discrimination Act
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    to make reasonable adjustments
    to your working arrangements,
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    so that you can continue to work.
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    What would reasonable
    adjustments look like for me?
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    I knew the obvious impacts
    my diagnosis was going to have on work.
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    Medical appointments would be scheduled
    during business hours,
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    and I knew that I would need time off
    to recover from surgical procedures.
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    Again, being a typical lawyer,
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    I had done my due diligence
    on what to expect from treatment.
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    Admittedly, a lot of that
    was through Doctor Google,
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    perhaps not my best move
    and I wouldn't recommend that.
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    (Laughter)
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    But while I was ready
    for all the physical side effects,
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    what really scared me
    was this thing called chemo brain.
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    Chemo brain presents itself
    through memory loss,
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    an inability to concentrate
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    and an inability to solve problems.
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    And if this happened to me,
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    I wondered how I was going to do
    my job as a lawyer.
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    Would I be forced to leave work?
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    And how could I possibly
    have a discussion with my manager
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    about reasonable adjustments
    to my working arrangements
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    when I didn't know
    how I was going to be impacted?
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    I was fortunate to have
    a supportive manager
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    who was happy to see
    how things went as we went along,
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    rather than requiring
    a concrete plan up front.
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    I was lucky that while
    he may not have even known
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    about this concept
    of reasonable adjustments,
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    to him, it was just common sense.
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    But I've learned that it's not
    common sense to everyone.
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    Everyone going through treatment
    will learn how it impacts them
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    and what their limitations are.
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    And they'll learn to adjust for that.
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    So for me, there were the tips and tricks
    that I learned about the treatment itself,
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    like, before you go to chemo,
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    you need to make sure
    you're really well hydrated
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    and that you're warm, because it helps
    the nurses to find your veins.
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    And make sure that you don't eat
    any of your favorite food,
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    either before or after chemo,
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    because you're going to be
    throwing that up
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    and you won't ever
    want to look at it again.
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    (Laughter)
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    I learned that one the hard way.
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    And then there were the tricks
    for managing my workflow.
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    I scheduled chemo for first thing
    on a Monday morning.
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    I knew that from the time
    I left the cancer care unit,
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    I had about four hours
    before this fog screen would come down
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    and I would start to be sick.
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    So I would use that time to clean my inbox
    and make any urgent calls.
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    The worst of the sickness would be gone
    within about 48 hours.
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    And then I would log back
    into work from home.
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    This treatment continued
    and I knew what to expect.
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    I was able to set reasonable expectations
    with my business partners
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    about what I could do
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    and the time frames that I could do it in.
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    But I still remember
    the hesitation in their voices
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    when it came to asking for things.
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    And asking me to do things
    by a certain time.
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    And trust me, these were people
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    that were not afraid
    of setting a good deadline.
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    (Laughter)
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    I got the impression they didn't want
    to put any extra pressure on me
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    while I was going through treatment.
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    And while I appreciated the sentiment,
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    I actually needed the deadlines.
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    To me, that was something
    within my control
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    and something
    that could stay in my control
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    when there were so many
    things that couldn't.
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    And as I was working from home,
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    I was thinking about how employers
    should be applying this concept
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    of reasonable adjustments
    in our current age,
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    where one in two Australian men and women
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    will be diagnosed with cancer
    by the age of 85.
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    So, as we continue to work
    longer and longer into older age,
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    the chances of having a serious illness
    while we're in the workforce
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    are increasing.
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    And with technology enabling us
    to work anywhere, any time,
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    reasonable adjustments
    are no longer contingent upon
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    whether or not you can continue
    to physically make it
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    into the physical office.
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    Reasonable adjustments are also not about
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    just offering a longer break
    or a comfier chair to sit in,
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    although those things might be good, too.
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    At the very least,
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    we need to be applying
    the flexibility policies and strategies
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    we've developed for other scenarios,
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    like for people
    with family responsibilities.
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    But how can we ensure that people
    are even having a conversation
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    about what reasonable adjustments
    might look like for them
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    if a manager's first response is to say,
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    "Oh no, don't come back to work
    until you're better."
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    And a light went on for me.
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    It must be compulsory for managers
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    to have to have these conversations
    with their employees.
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    And lessons from people like me,
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    that have really benefited
    from working through treatment,
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    need to be more widely shared.
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    And I thought about what could be done
    to guide these conversations,
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    and then an amazing
    colleague of mine, Camilla Gunn,
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    developed a "Working with Cancer" toolkit.
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    The toolkit provides a framework
    for those diagnosed,
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    their managers, their carers
    and their coworkers
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    to have conversations about cancer
    and the work support available.
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    Camilla and I have now been
    to other organizations
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    to talk about the toolkit
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    and how it can help to guide through
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    what, quite frankly, are otherwise
    some pretty awkward conversations.
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    And I'm pleased to say that the uptake
    of the toolkit is increasing.
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    So what should be
    a manager's first response
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    when somebody says that they're sick
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    and they don't know
    how it's going to impact their work?
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    It must be this:
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    "To the extent that you
    are able, and want to,
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    we would love to work out
    an arrangement for you
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    to continue to work through treatment."
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    We need to start positively engaging
    people with serious illness
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    to keep them in the workforce,
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    rather than paternalistically
    pushing them away.
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    I've told you my story
    because I want you to know the benefits
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    that working through treatment brought me.
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    And I also want to change your perceptions
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    if you think that somebody
    going through treatment
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    is just bored, frail and vomiting a lot.
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    And yes, these things
    were true some of the time,
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    if not a lot of the time,
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    but I was also determined
    to push myself at work
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    as much as I had always done.
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    And I was able to do that
    because my employer gave me the choice.
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    Most importantly, I'm telling you
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    because while it's a seemingly
    obvious choice to give someone,
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    it's not one that is always
    offered or encouraged.
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    And it must be.
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    Thank you.
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    (Applause)
Title:
How work kept me going during my cancer treatment
Speaker:
Sarah Donnelly
Description:

When lawyer Sarah Donnelly was diagnosed with breast cancer, she turned to her friends and family for support -- but she also found meaning, focus and stability in her work. In a personal talk about why and how she stayed on the job, she shares her insights on how workplaces can accommodate people going through major illnesses -- because the benefits go both ways.

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Video Language:
English
Team:
closed TED
Project:
TEDTalks
Duration:
11:30

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