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Math is forever

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    Imagine you're in a bar, or a club,
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    and you start talking to a girl,
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    and after a while this question come up:
    "So, what do you do for work?"
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    And since you think
    your job is interesting you say:
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    "I'm a mathematician."
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    (Laughter)
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    33.51 % of girls,
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    (Laughter)
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    in that moment, pretend
    to get an urgent call and leave.
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    (Laughter)
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    And 64.69 % of girls
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    desperately try to change the topic and leave.
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    (Laughter)
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    There's 0.8 % made up by your cousin,
    your girlfriend and your mother,
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    (Laughter)
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    who know that you work in something weird
    but don't remember what it is. (Laughter)
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    And there is 1 %
    that actually follows the conversation.
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    When that conversation happens,
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    at some point, invariably,
    one of these two phrases come up:
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    A: "I was terrible at math,
    but it wasn't my fault,
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    it's that the teacher
    was horrendous." (Laughter)
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    And B: "But what is math really for?"
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    (Laughter)
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    I'll deal with case B.
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    (Laughter)
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    When someone asks you what math is for,
    they're not asking you
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    about the application
    of mathematical science.
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    They're asking you:
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    "Why did I have to study that bullshit
    I never used in my life again?" (Laughter)
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    That's what they're actually asking.
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    So when mathematicians are asked
    what math is for,
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    they tend to split into two groups.
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    54.51 % of mathematicians
    will assume an attacking posture,
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    and 44.77 % of mathematicians
    will take a defensive posture.
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    There's a strange 0.8 %,
    among which I include myself.
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    Who are the ones that attack?
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    The attacking ones are mathematicians
    who would tell you:
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    "This question makes no sense,
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    because mathematics
    have a meaning on their own--
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    a beautiful edifice with its own logic--
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    and that there's no point
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    in constantly searching
    for all possible applications.
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    What's the use of poetry?
    What's the use of love?
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    What's the use of life itself?
    What kind of question is that?"
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    (Laughter)
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    Hardy, for instance, is a prime example
    for this type of attack.
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    And those who stand in defense tell you:
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    "Even if you don't notice it, buddy,
    math is behind everything."
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    (Laughter)
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    They always--
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    always name bridges and computers.
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    "If you don't know math,
    your bridge falls off."
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    (Laughter)
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    In reality, computers are all about math.
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    Now, these guys always happen to tell you
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    that behind information security
    and credit cards are prime numbers.
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    These are the answers your math teacher
    would give you if you asked him--
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    the defensive ones.
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    Okay, but, who's right then?
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    Those who say math
    doesn't need to be useful at all,
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    or those who say
    that it's really behind everything?
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    Actually, both are right.
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    But remember I told you
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    I belong to that strange 0.8 %
    claiming something else.
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    So, go ahead, ask me what math is for.
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    Audience: What is math for?
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    Okay, so 76.34 % of you
    asked the question,
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    23.41 % didn't say anything,
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    and 0.8 %--
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    not sure what those guys were doing.
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    Well, dear 76.31 %
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    it's true that math can be useless,
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    it's true that it's
    a beautiful edification, a logical one,
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    probably one
    of the greatest collective effort
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    the human race
    has ever achieved in history.
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    But it's also true that there,
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    where scientists and technicians
    are looking for mathematical theories
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    that allow them to advance,
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    they are in the edification of math,
    which permeates everything.
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    It's true that we have to go
    somewhat deeper,
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    to see what's behind science.
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    Science is based on intuition, creativity.
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    Math dominates intuition
    and tames creativity.
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    Almost every person
    who hasn't heard this before
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    is surprised when they hear
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    that a 0.1 mm thick sheet of paper--
    one that we normally use--
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    is big enough, that if you fold 50 times,
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    the thickness of that pile would take up
    the distance from the Earth to the Sun.
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    Your intuition tells you it's impossible.
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    Do the math and you'll see it's right.
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    That's what math is for.
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    It's true that the main purpose
    of science, of all types of science,
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    is to make us better understand
    the beautiful world we live in.
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    And because it does so,
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    it can help us avoid the traps
    of this painful world we live in.
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    There are sciences
    that grasp this very application.
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    Oncological science, for example.
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    And there are others we look at from afar,
    with jealousy sometimes,
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    but knowing we are what supports them.
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    All the basic sciences
    are the support of them,
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    and among these is math.
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    All that makes science, science,
    is the rigor of math.
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    And that rigor belongs to it
    because the results are eternal.
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    You probably said or were told
    at some point,
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    that diamonds are forever, right?
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    It depends on
    what you understand by "forever"!
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    A theorem-- that really is forever!
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    (Laughter)
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    The Pythagorean theorem is still true
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    even though Pythagoras is dead,
    I'm telling you. (Laughter)
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    Even if the world collapsed
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    the Pythagorean theorem
    would still be true.
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    Wherever any two sides
    and a good hypotenuse get together
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    (Laughter)
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    the Pythagorean theorem
    works at its the max.
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    (Applause)
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    Well, us mathematicians devote ourselves
    to come up with theorems.
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    Eternal truths.
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    But it isn't always easy to know
    what an eternal truth, a theorem, is
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    compared to a mere conjecture.
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    You need demonstration.
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    For example,
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    imagine you have a big,
    enormous, infinite field.
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    I want to cover it with equal pieces,
    without leaving any gaps.
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    I could use squares, right?
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    I could use triangles.
    Not circles, those leave little gaps.
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    Which is the best piece I can use?
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    The one that covers the same surface
    has the smallest border.
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    In the year 300, Pappus of Alexandria
    said the best is to use hexagons,
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    just like bees do.
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    But he didn't demonstrate it.
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    The guy said, "Hexagons, great!
    Let's go with hexagons!"
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    He didn't demonstrate it,
    he stayed in a conjecture.
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    "Hexagons!"
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    And the world, as you know,
    split into pappists and anti-pappists,
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    until 1700 years later--
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    1700 years later--
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    in 1999 Thomas Hales demonstrated
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    that Pappus and the bees were right,
    the best was to use hexagons.
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    And that became a theorem,
    the honeycomb theory,
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    that will be true forever
    forever and ever,
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    for longer than any diamond
    you may have. (Laughter)
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    But what happens if we go to 3 dimensions?
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    If I want to fill the space, with equal
    pieces, without leaving any gaps,
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    I can use cubes, right?
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    Not spheres, those leave little gaps.
    (Laughter)
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    What is the best piece
    I can use?
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    Lord Kelvin, the one of the Kelvin degrees
    and all said, he said
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    that the best was to use a
    truncated octahedron (Laughter)
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    that as you all know (Laughter)
    is this thing over here! (Applause)
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    Come on! Who doesn't have a truncated
    octahedron at home? (Laughter)
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    Even if it's plastic. Kid, bring
    the truncated octahedron, we have guests.
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    Everybody has one! (Laughter)
    But Kelvin didn't demonstrate it.
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    He stayed in a conjecture,
    Kelvin's conjecture.
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    The world, as you know, split between
    kelvinists and anti-kelvinists (Laughter)
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    until a hundred-and-something years later,
    a hundred-and-something years later,
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    someone found a better structure.
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    Weaire and Phelan, Weaire and Phelan
    found this little thing over here,
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    (Laughter) this structure they put the
    imaginative name of
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    the Weaire-Phelan structure. (Laughter)
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    It seems like a strange thing
    but it isn't that strange,
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    it's also present in nature.
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    It's very curious that this structure,
    because of its geometric properties,
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    was used to build
    the swimming building
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    in the Beijing Olympic Games.
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    There Michael Phelps won
    8 gold medals, and became
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    the best swimmer of all times.
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    Well, of all times
    until someone better comes along, no?
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    As it happens to the
    Weaire-Phelan structure,
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    it's the best until something better
    shows up.
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    But be careful, because this one
    really has the opportunity,
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    that if a hundred-and-something years
    pass, even if it's in 1700 years,
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    someone demonstrates that this
    is the best piece possible.
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    And then it will be a theorem,
    a truth forever, forever and ever.
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    For longer than any diamond.
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    So, well, if you want to tell someone
    you'll love them forever (Laughter)
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    you can give them a diamond,
    but if you want to tell them
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    that you'll love them forever and ever,
    give them a theorem! (Laughter)
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    However, you'll have to demonstrate,
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    that your love doesn't stay a conjecture.
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    (Applause)
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    Thank you.
Title:
Math is forever
Speaker:
Eduardo Saenz de Cabezon
Description:

Mathematician Eduardo Sáenz de Cabezón answers a question that’s wracked the brains of bored students the world over: What is math for? With humor and charm, he shows the beauty of math as the backbone of science — and shows that theorems, not diamonds, are forever.

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Video Language:
Spanish
Team:
closed TED
Project:
TEDTalks
Duration:
10:14

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