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Are droids taking our jobs?

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    As it turns out, when tens of millions of people
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    are unemployed or underemployed,
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    there's a fair amount of interest in what technology might be doing to the labor force.
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    And as I look at the conversation, it strikes me
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    that it's focused on exactly the right topic,
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    and at the same time, it's missing the point entirely.
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    The topic that it's focused on, the question is whether or not
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    all these digital technologies are affecting people's ability
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    to earn a living, or, to say it a little bit different way,
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    are the droids taking our jobs?
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    And there's some evidence that they are.
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    The Great Recession ended when American GDP resumed
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    its kind of slow, steady march upward, and some other
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    economic indicators also started to rebound, and they got
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    kind of healthy kind of quickly. Corporate profits
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    are quite high. In fact, if you include bank profits,
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    they're higher than they've ever been.
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    And business investment in gear, in equipment
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    and hardware and software is at an all-time high.
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    So the businesses are getting out their checkbooks.
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    What they're not really doing is hiring.
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    So this red line is the employment-to-population ratio,
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    in other words, the percentage of working age people
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    in America who have work.
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    And we see that it cratered during the Great Recession,
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    and it hasn't started to bounce back at all.
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    But the story is not just a recession story.
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    The decade that we've just been through had relatively
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    anemic job growth all throughout, especially when we
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    compare it to other decades, and the 2000s
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    are the only time we have on record where there were
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    fewer people working at the end of the decade
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    than at the beginning. This is not what you want to see.
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    When you graph the number of potential employees
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    versus the number of jobs in the country, you see the gap
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    gets bigger and bigger over time, and then,
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    during the Great Recession, it opened up in a huge way.
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    I did some quick calculations. I took the last 20 years of GDP growth
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    and the last 20 years of labor productivity growth
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    and used those in a fairly straightforward way
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    to try to project how many jobs the economy was going
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    to need to keep growing, and this is the line that I came up with.
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    Is that good or bad? This is the government's projection
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    for the working age population going forward.
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    So if these predictions are accurate, that gap is not going to close.
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    The problem is, I don't think these projections are accurate.
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    In particular, I think my projection is way too optimistic,
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    because when I did it, I was assuming that the future
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    was kind of going to look like the past
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    with labor productivity growth, and that's actually not what I believe,
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    because when I look around, I think that we ain't seen nothing yet
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    when it comes to technology's impact on the labor force.
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    Just in the past couple years, we've seen digital tools
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    display skills and abilities that they never, ever had before,
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    and that, kind of, eat deeply into what we human beings
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    do for a living. Let me give you a couple examples.
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    Throughout all of history, if you wanted something
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    translated from one language into another,
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    you had to involve a human being.
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    Now we have multi-language, instantaneous,
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    automatic translation services available for free
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    via many of our devices all the way down to smartphones.
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    And if any of us have used these, we know that
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    they're not perfect, but they're decent.
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    Throughout all of history, if you wanted something written,
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    a report or an article, you had to involve a person.
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    Not anymore. This is an article that appeared
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    in Forbes online a while back about Apple's earnings.
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    It was written by an algorithm.
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    And it's not decent, it's perfect.
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    A lot of people look at this and they say, "Okay,
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    but those are very specific, narrow tasks,
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    and most knowledge workers are actually generalists,
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    and what they do is sit on top of a very large body
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    of expertise and knowledge and they use that
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    to react on the fly to kind of unpredictable demands,
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    and that's very, very hard to automate."
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    One of the most impressive knowledge workers
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    in recent memory is a guy named Ken Jennings.
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    He won the quiz show "Jeopardy!" 74 times in a row,
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    took home three million dollars.
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    That's Ken on the right getting beat three to one by
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    Watson, the "Jeopardy!"-playing supercomputer from IBM.
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    So when we look at what technology can do
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    to general knowledge workers, I start to think
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    there might not be something so special about this idea
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    of a generalist, particularly when we start doing things
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    like hooking Siri up to Watson and having technologies
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    that can understand what we're saying
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    and repeat speech back to us.
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    Now, Siri is far from perfect, and we can make fun
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    of her flaws, but we should also keep in mind that
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    if technologies like Siri and Watson improve
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    along a Moore's Law trajectory, which they will,
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    in six years, they're not going to be two times better
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    or four times better, they'll be 16 times better than they are right now.
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    So I start to think that a lot of knowledge work is going to be affected by this.
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    And digital technologies are not just impacting knowledge work.
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    They're starting to flex their muscles in the physical world as well.
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    I had the chance a little while back to ride in the Google
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    autonomous car, which is as cool as it sounds. (Laughter)
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    And I will vouch that it handled the stop-and-go traffic
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    on U.S. 101 very smoothly.
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    There are about three and a half million people
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    who drive trucks for a living in the United States.
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    I think some of them are going to be affected by this
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    technology. And right now, humanoid robots are still
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    incredibly primitive. They can't do very much.
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    But they're getting better quite quickly, and DARPA,
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    which is the investment arm of the Defense Department,
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    is trying to accelerate their trajectory.
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    So, in short, yeah, the droids are coming for our jobs.
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    In the short term, we can stimulate job growth
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    by encouraging entrepreneurship and by investing
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    in infrastructure, because the robots today still aren't
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    very good at fixing bridges.
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    But in the not-too-long-term, I think within the lifetimes
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    of most of the people in this room, we're going to transition
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    into an economy that is very productive but that
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    just doesn't need a lot of human workers,
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    and managing that transition is going to be
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    the greatest challenge that our society faces.
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    Voltaire summarized why. He said, "Work saves us
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    from three great evils: boredom, vice and need."
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    But despite this challenge, I'm personally,
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    I'm still a huge digital optimist, and I am
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    supremely confident that the digital technologies that we're
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    developing now are going to take us into a utopian future,
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    not a dystopian future. And to explain why,
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    I want to pose kind of a ridiculously broad question.
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    I want to ask what have been the most important
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    developments in human history?
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    Now, I want to share some of the answers that I've gotten
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    in response to this question. It's a wonderful question
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    to ask and to start an endless debate about,
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    because some people are going to bring up
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    systems of philosophy in both the West and the East that
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    have changed how a lot of people think about the world.
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    And then other people will say, "No, actually, the big stories,
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    the big developments are the founding of the world's
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    major religions, which have changed civilizations
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    and have changed and influenced how countless people
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    are living their lives." And then some other folk will say,
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    "Actually, what changes civilizations, what modifies them
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    and what changes people's lives
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    are empires, so the great developments in human history
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    are stories of conquest and of war."
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    And then some cheery soul usually always pipes up
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    and says, "Hey, don't forget about plagues." (Laughter)
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    There are some optimistic answers to this question,
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    so some people will bring up the Age of Exploration
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    and the opening up of the world.
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    Others will talk about intellectual achievements
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    in disciplines like math that have helped us get
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    a better handle on the world, and other folk will talk about
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    periods when there was a deep flourishing
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    of the arts and sciences. So this debate will go on and on.
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    It's an endless debate, and there's no conclusive,
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    no single answer to it. But if you're a geek like me,
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    you say, "Well, what do the data say?"
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    And you start to do things like graph things that we might
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    be interested in, the total worldwide population, for example,
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    or some measure of social development,
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    or the state of advancement of a society,
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    and you start to plot the data, because, by this approach,
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    the big stories, the big developments in human history,
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    are the ones that will bend these curves a lot.
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    So when you do this, and when you plot the data,
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    you pretty quickly come to some weird conclusions.
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    You conclude, actually, that none of these things
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    have mattered very much. (Laughter)
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    They haven't done a darn thing to the curves. (Laughter)
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    There has been one story, one development
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    in human history that bent the curve, bent it just about
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    90 degrees, and it is a technology story.
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    The steam engine, and the other associated technologies
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    of the Industrial Revolution changed the world
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    and influenced human history so much,
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    that in the words of the historian Ian Morris,
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    they made mockery out of all that had come before.
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    And they did this by infinitely multiplying the power
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    of our muscles, overcoming the limitations of our muscles.
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    Now, what we're in the middle of now
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    is overcoming the limitations of our individual brains
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    and infinitely multiplying our mental power.
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    How can this not be as big a deal as overcoming
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    the limitations of our muscles?
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    So at the risk of repeating myself a little bit, when I look
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    at what's going on with digital technology these days,
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    we are not anywhere near through with this journey,
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    and when I look at what is happening to our economies
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    and our societies, my single conclusion is that
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    we ain't seen nothing yet. The best days are really ahead.
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    Let me give you a couple examples.
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    Economies don't run on energy. They don't run on capital,
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    they don't run on labor. Economies run on ideas.
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    So the work of innovation, the work of coming up with
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    new ideas, is some of the most powerful,
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    some of the most fundamental work that we can do
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    in an economy. And this is kind of how we used to do innovation.
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    We'd find a bunch of fairly similar-looking people
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    — (Laughter) —
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    we'd take them out of elite institutions, we'd put them into
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    other elite institutions, and we'd wait for the innovation.
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    Now — (Laughter) —
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    as a white guy who spent his whole career at MIT
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    and Harvard, I got no problem with this. (Laughter)
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    But some other people do, and they've kind of crashed
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    the party and loosened up the dress code of innovation.
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    (Laughter)
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    So here are the winners of a Top Coder programming challenge,
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    and I assure you that nobody cares
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    where these kids grew up, where they went to school,
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    or what they look like. All anyone cares about
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    is the quality of the work, the quality of the ideas.
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    And over and over again, we see this happening
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    in the technology-facilitated world.
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    The work of innovation is becoming more open,
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    more inclusive, more transparent, and more merit-based,
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    and that's going to continue no matter what MIT and Harvard
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    think of it, and I couldn't be happier about that development.
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    I hear once in a while, "Okay, I'll grant you that,
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    but technology is still a tool for the rich world,
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    and what's not happening, these digital tools are not
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    improving the lives of people at the bottom of the pyramid."
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    And I want to say to that very clearly: nonsense.
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    The bottom of the pyramid is benefiting hugely from technology.
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    The economist Robert Jensen did this wonderful study
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    a while back where he watched, in great detail,
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    what happened to the fishing villages of Kerala, India,
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    when they got mobile phones for the very first time,
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    and when you write for the Quarterly Journal of Economics,
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    you have to use very dry and very circumspect language,
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    but when I read his paper, I kind of feel Jensen is trying
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    to scream at us, and say, look, this was a big deal.
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    Prices stabilized, so people could plan their economic lives.
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    Waste was not reduced; it was eliminated.
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    And the lives of both the buyers and the sellers
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    in these villages measurably improved.
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    Now, what I don't think is that Jensen got extremely lucky
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    and happened to land in the one set of villages
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    where technology made things better.
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    What happened instead is he very carefully documented
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    what happens over and over again when technology
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    comes for the first time to an environment and a community.
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    The lives of people, the welfares of people, improve dramatically.
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    So as I look around at all the evidence, and I think about
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    the room that we have ahead of us, I become a huge
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    digital optimist, and I start to think that this wonderful
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    statement from the physicist Freeman Dyson
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    is actually not hyperbole. This is an accurate assessment of what's going on.
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    Our digital -- our technologies are great gifts,
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    and we, right now, have the great good fortune
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    to be living at a time when digital technology is flourishing,
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    when it is broadening and deepening and
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    becoming more profound all around the world.
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    So, yeah, the droids are taking our jobs,
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    but focusing on that fact misses the point entirely.
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    The point is that then we are freed up to do other things,
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    and what we are going to do, I am very confident,
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    what we're going to do is reduce poverty and drudgery
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    and misery around the world. I'm very confident
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    we're going to learn to live more lightly on the planet,
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    and I am extremely confident that what we're going to do
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    with our new digital tools is going to be so profound
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    and so beneficial that it's going to make a mockery
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    out of everything that came before.
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    I'm going to leave the last word to a guy who had
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    a front row seat for digital progress,
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    our old friend Ken Jennings. I'm with him.
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    I'm going to echo his words:
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    "I, for one, welcome our new computer overlords." (Laughter)
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    Thanks very much. (Applause)
Title:
Are droids taking our jobs?
Speaker:
Andrew McAfee
Description:

Robots and algorithms are getting good at jobs like building cars, writing articles, translating -- jobs that once required a human. So what will we humans do for work? Andrew McAfee walks through recent labor data to say: We ain't seen nothing yet. But then he steps back to look at big history, and comes up with a surprising and even thrilling view of what comes next. (Filmed at TEDxBoston.)

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14:07
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